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spamgarlic

With Vince out of the picture, I sure hope people get their names back. We need Dijakovic, we need WALTER, we need Piper Niven. I'd probably keep Butch just until he splits with Sheamus. Nikki should stop the superhero gimmick now. Madcap doesn't even have a cap anymore! Keep Theory, but people should call him Austin from time to time in interviews and promos. Keep calling him Ciampa, but I think he needs his first name for every other scenario.


galactabat

Maybe a dumb question, but I don't understand why the ROH 6-Man Tag Belts are called that in reference to the fact that the tag-titles aren't called the 4-Man Tag Belts, or the 2-Man World Championship, etc...does anyone know why they were named that way?


jadedfan55

Women of Wrestling will be syndicated this fall. In my area, it'll air on Saturdays on the CW affiliate, at 10 pm. Don't know if they'll do a Sunday repeat like the station did with ROH. These are the things I'd like to see more of on Raw and/or Smackdown with HHH now in charge of creative: Ciampa doing promos backstage, sitting in a chair, then kicking the chair away when he leaves, like he did in NXT. That was bad-ass. A little less conversation, a little more action please. Yeah, it's from an old Elvis song.


el_sh33p

Lemme just go on the daily record here as saying John Silver saved the intro to today's BTE. Also he needs to incorporate the Stunner into his moveset for real.


FuckBarry

How often do you think Vince is jerking off? Feel like he's not got much else to do these days.


leglessman

I don’t expect any immediate changes to WWE’s product. I’m optimistic about long term positive changes though.


Hutchnstuff1

I am really looking forward to Raw tonight! Hopefully it's TV-14 tonight, but I doubt it. No more Vince, and all of his crap from behind the scenes, and it's at Madison Square Garden!! The crowd will be hyped!


wundervanbar

I am pretty excited for tonight's Raw is War and Warzone.


Thabass

What a fucking weird, weird weekend and future in professional wrestling.


M1keyd99

So is it confirmed that Raw is TV14 tonight or is it just a guess since it was announced a couple weeks ago?


QuitYour

I'm hoping with this change in management, there's a slightly different change in approach to the WWE Network, hopefully they put some more content on there.


ItsSirAdam

I wonder if AEW vs WWE is back on the table since Vince and co. are gone


dannydamaja

It's fun to dream about but they're so far apart from each other that I can't see it happening. AEW fans are all likely WWE fans (or used to be) but to the average WWE fan, AEW (if they're even aware of it) is the RC Cola to their Coke.


CarlThe94Pathfinder

Like TV wars? I doubt we ever get an AEW vs WWE PPV...


shadowrangerfs

I finally figured out why Maximum Male Models' slogan creeps me out. It sounds like something a guy would say on an old episode of "To Catch a Predator". I can just hear Chris Hansen's voice reading the chat log to some creep. Chris: I want to lick your BLANK. Put my BLANK in your mouth. And then you say, "I want to titillate the juices of your guilty pleasures". Is that appropriate for a man your age to say to a 13 year old girl?


Hutchnstuff1

Lol, this is 100% on point. I always thought is was cringey too.


CarlThe94Pathfinder

Jimmy has to go from RAW, dude's commentary just doesn't cut it for professional wrestling


den422

Jimmy carries RAW lmfao


CarlThe94Pathfinder

Oh no way, Cory and Byron 1000000% better than anything coming out of Jimmy's mouth. Like half the time he's not even watching, just straight reading the script. Edit: thats a wild take man lol


den422

I definitely enjoy Byron Saxon but Corey graves isn’t my personal favorite oh well lmao I still enjoy Jimmy and Byron. I’m a McAfee guy tho so lmaoo


CarlThe94Pathfinder

Pat truly one of the better guys period


Your_Personal_Jesus

I actually think AEW does have communication problems AND people are overreacting with the Gresham stuff. It sounds like he had an issue, it went to the RIGHT channel (QT, Dutt), but Gresham was basically trying do demand they do what his vision is. Like I'm not sure why or HOW they were supposed to do "right" by Gresham here, the plan was clearly to make Claudio the face of RoH and it's not really a conversation. Remember last month at Forbidden Door? People said if Gresham was Danielson's replacement for the ZSJ it would be basically stealing money and ripping off fans. THAT is the gap between Claudio and Gresham. I don't think Gresham gets to come in to AEW and make any kind of demands about his booking or positioning on the card, that's ridiculous, it's Hardcore Holly "how bout I get the belt and beat everybody" stuff. Saying that and defending Sasha after giving years to the company and being a top draw is too different things. Gresham and Tony haven't build any kind of relationship for Gresham to expect anything but a booking just like Tony can't expect anything from Gresham but to show up for whatever booking he was scheduled for.


Johnnyboy10000

I agree. Gresham definitely does have many legitimate grievances, however, if the rumors of how he tried to handle it are to be believed, it's no wonder it blew up in his face. ***At the same time***, TK isn't 100% blameless either since there does seem to be some form of communications issues and how much of the booking he's apparently been trying to handle himself. Needless to say, it seems to be a real shit sandwich of a situation all around.


Windows_66

It would be cool if ROH was syndicated like it was before when it returns to TV, though obviously not with Sinclair. I did get a kick out of seeing ROH advertised right before Smackdown.


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JoeMaxam

This is the first time I’ve been excited about WWEs future in god knows how long. Can’t wait to see how this all plays out over the next couple of months.


Windows_66

Now that I finished the weekly TNA PPV's, I'm burning through Impact faster. I'm already halfway through October 2004 and am about to reach Planet Jarret and the Kings of Wrestling. Oh my.


dannydamaja

*wee woo wee woo*


Windows_66

*maniacal laughing*


Chucknorris55

I will tell you this as someone who has done exactly what you are doing and is in October 2006, 05 was the worst year so far and late 04 is the the start of the downward trend. Early Impact's are dreadfully boring and things don't improve until Spike, there are tons of good matches but the stories and angles are weak. Mid 03 to mid 04 is a really good time tho imo.


Windows_66

At least the shows are only an hour long (less without commercials). It'll be cool to see Sting again though (and I am admittedly a sucker for the Flying Elvis' Theme).


Chucknorris55

The length does help but you've got awhile before Sting is around. Sting isn't a regular roster member until early 2006 but by the end of 05 things really hit their stride. I will say this, lockdown 2005 is a great show, probably my favorite of the year.


45jayhay

I have tried to watch WWE 4 times in the last year and every time it just reminded me why I prefer AEW and give up in the first hour. I'm optimistic about tonight so hope all goes well this time around.


trashgamerjason

I doubt you'll really see any major changes this quickly, honestly. I would imagine changes will be more gradual, it's not going to be like the Black and Gold to 2.0 switch


insomniainc

Ever been rickrolled by Kaiju Big Battel and a bunch of kickass musicians? Well https://youtu.be/gs3mNTLJGIo


amorningofsleep

This is amazing.


Broom2theTomb

I hope HHH knows just how special nxt black and gold was.


brandon9761

What's the plan going forward with ROH in terms of events? Will they have weekly events? Just ppvs?


Johnnyboy10000

I'm hoping that they'll eventually be able to work out some kind of TV deal, but as of right now it'll probably just be PPVs + showing up on regular AEW programming.


TheTwitteringMachine

All the belts bar the triple tags are now AEW regulars so it will be alluded to on Dynamite and Rampage until the next PPV laster in the year.


IWantToBolieve

Tanahashi and Naito made me invested in the final part of the match, so the Inside Cradle win was very well done and very unexpected. Can't remember the last time I was caught like that in a positive way.


BirthdayAgent

This is just a petition for “Knowing HHH” flair


dannydamaja

Seconded, but I also want one with a blank so we can fill in execs' names at will


dannydamaja

Has WrestleUniverse gotten an app?


hailtothekale

Yeah, came out in the winter and has been updated a few times since. Casting works like a charm, and it's really easy to change video and audio settings mid-playback.


ChairmanLaParka

Unlike NJPW, yes they do. Really crazy NJPW still doesn't have an app yet.


pumpingbomba

Forget about an App. All I want is to watch it on TV with my PlayStation which still is not possible somehow.


dannydamaja

Swee - I'd been waiting on the app to sub up. Being able to watch on TV without having to fiddle with casting is huge.


ChairmanLaParka

They don't seem to have Apple TV or Roku apps, but AirPlay'ing has been dead simple from the iPhone app to those devices.


Shyde1991

Save Us HHH.


nameless_stories

Tonights Raw should be at least some indication of what things look like when Vince isnt at the helm directly. Not saying the whole company will change overnight, but itll be interesting to see what little quirks and elements were do to Vince's creative hold and what was just the WWE machine doing what it does on its own


ChairmanLaParka

It'll primarily be interesting to see if it still gets a complete rewrite while the show is going on.


Xalazi

Madeline: [MMA fighter, badass heel, mad ball of charm and charisma](https://twitter.com/madfit2/status/1551607617889644546?s=20&t=d_Cps3XZDwEKdjL9xNXSMQ)


flameducky

Outside of the fight for talent, I think WWE getting hotter from better creative will only benefit AEW and wrestling as a whole in the long run. If wrestling as a whole is hotter, AEW only stands to get more for its TV deals. If AEW recaptures the hot steak from the second half of 2021 and WWE's product (which has been better than normal for a while now) gets better under HHH, this is going to be the best time for wrestling in 2 decades.


Jazzlike_Success_968

I don't know if this is good for AEW... I'm certainly not trying to start shit & I love AEW but I can't admit that HHH's NXT for awhile & those Takeover shows weren't the best thing going I really hope this all ends up leading to a huge boom for the business as a whole.


Shabbygenteel

I don’t think this change in WWE will have any dramatic effect on AEW (I hope it means WWE gets better). A solid HHH product directly competed against AEW and didn’t put it out of business so I’m not sure why people seem extra nervous for AEW now specifically because HHH is in charge.


TheTwitteringMachine

Really interesting to see what they do with talent now. Do they go back to signing people from the indies and pushing for the likes of Ospreay and White, or will Khan or whoever stay firm and they want to have athletes from other sports?


45jayhay

>or will Khan or whoever stay firm and they want to have athletes from other sports? This is more likely to happen at the end of the day Kahn's objective is still to make the most from spending the most little. He rather make their own Osprey


ibn1989

When it comes to WWE changing for the better now that Vince is gone, I'll believe it when I see it.


nameless_stories

Yeah. The product has been so static and samey for so long that itll be jarring to see any real change at this point


TheTwitteringMachine

What a wild time this is going to be for NXT. Vince tore down Triple H's vision of it and now less than a year later he's back as head of creative. 3.0 incoming


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iOwnMultipleScarves

*Goes over for dinner Vince: I see you changed the colors back HHH: Whatta ya mean pops I ju... *click ...Vince turns on TV HHH: OH... would ya look at that. How did that happen? Steph, did you do that? Steph: I think that was Nick's idea HHH: That's right!


Johnnyboy10000

Triple H seems to have been playing the long game and it looks like it might be working.


TheTwitteringMachine

He has Tom Wambsgans this to perfection.


Johnnyboy10000

Pretty much.


rflairfan1

I feel like there is already some misunderstanding of the Vince McMahon $14 million story and its only been a couple hours.


brosal741

"Misunderstanding" as if people don't twist it on purpose, assuming they read the story in the first place is already a huge assumption


lronicGasping

So, might have to start tuning in to WWE again lmao I watched MITB but haven't kept up since, has anything of note happened since then?


Johnnyboy10000

Brock gave Theory a beat down with his MITB case, but that was more entertaining than interesting, I guess?


tony220jdm

HHH running creative with a less PG era could be massive for WWE! NXT matches always felt important on PPV cards as they were booked well coming into them


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As of this moment I am way more interested in WWE (due to Vince retiring) than AEW. I am worried that All Out will under deliver. I hope I am 100% wrong on this. This week’s Dynamite HAS to be a banger.


TheTwitteringMachine

It would be silly to react to this so soon. Nothing is going to happen this week for them to change up the show specifically for this and most of their biggest names are on their way back in the next few weeks. If there is one way thing you can say about AEW this year is that the PPV's have not missed, and I am sure All Out will do the same.


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Well yeah, I don’t expect WWE to be completely different immediately. But they have piqued my interest. As far as AEW goes, their PPVs have delivered good matches, but I haven’t been crazy about the booking leading up to them. They seem to be lacking excitement.


definethegreatline

putting on a tin foil hat here but y'all ever wonder if shane was the one who snitched on vince just out of pettiness when shane got fired after the rumble


CuvisTheConqueror

Honestly, part of me thinks it was Steph. It was just after she went "on leave", and "backstage sources" were badmouthing her to the dirtsheets, after all. And she certainly gained from the fallout.


BirthdayAgent

I still have money on Steph after all those “she wasn’t that good at her job” stories came out. Either steph herself, someone super close to Steph, or someone who thought ‘if they’ll do that to Steph’ and became disillusioned


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I don’t know about Shane, but it had to be someone close.


hailtothekale

Tonight is AC Mack vs Atticus Cogar! Let's see what goodies the fans bring for them to play with.


amorningofsleep

I'm actually gonna put up a live thread for it so we can all hopefully watch Atticus claim his rightful title.


hailtothekale

Sweet, I'm gonna actually be able to catch this one live as well.


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dannydamaja

I think it's a two-fold thing where it's an overcorrection for all the hate he would get from the "smarky" circles, and him being a through and through company man during a time where (consciously or not) there's a lot of brand loyalty happening in the online space. And I say this as someone who has always liked his dorky ass.


Jaccount

I'd argue it depends what he's getting the love for. He's a good brand ambassador, and handles himself well when he needs to be out there doing the normal media rounds. He's significantly better at it than say, Roman Reigns or even John Cena (when Cena's doing his movie/tv show press rounds) He doesn't seem to get people hurt, works well with "Celebrity Guests", the reality show continues to do alright... really, I think as an all-rounder he probably doesn't get enough love. With the exception of guys who left the WWE to go on to bigger-and-better things in Hollywood, he's probably one of the most valuable pieces they have. That on top of all of that he can still get over as a heel is incredibly solid. If you can be the guy that does just about everything well, you don't need to be an all-time great.


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Miz is very overrated. I don’t agree with Cornette on his opinions of 90% of the wrestlers of today, but he said that Miz comes off as if he’s playing wrestler rather being one. I think he is spot on with that statement.


Jaccount

Cornette may not be wrong on that, but that's the business. It's even better that you can have a guy that's willing to run around and not mind that he comes off as "playing wrestler", while still getting you good press, fresh eyeballs on your product and not being a prima donna and demanding better booking treatment.


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I think Miz not demanding better booking and being content with any role WWE places him in is a major part of why he’s valuable to the company. Seems like something that McMahon appreciated.


clay394

what's general consensus about wrestletalk? are they one of the channels people like? my friend seems to hail the gospel of wt and i can't remember if they're an okay channel to let him get weird about or not


BirthdayAgent

Seems generally positive but not universal. Maybe 80% like them for what they are (news aggregate) and the other 20% see them as unnecessary.


clay394

good enough for me, thanks!


nachomountain

Sooo I guess I should check out RAW tonight?


ChairmanLaParka

Nah. It doesn't make sense to really check it out til after Wrestlemania. Survivor Series if you're impatient. Nothing's gonna be different today.


SixHundredLbsofSin

Recently started watching Line of Duty. I've made it to S2E2 and just don't get how Denton didn't recognize Fleming. It's a pretty good show, but it has a lot of logic gaps.


pagalpun

Kidd Bandit vs Malakai Black is wild


clay394

is this happening soon??


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e-rage

damn havent heard that name in a minute- not since Chikara. Is Bakabella still managing?


amorningofsleep

Currently managing "World Class" Channing Thomas for Beyond and is continuing to kill it at anything he does.


hailtothekale

He's primarily a commentator these days, has been working regularly with Beyond for years.


pumpingbomba

Totally forgot that Hiromu is in the US. Hopefully he will do more than just the strong taping and NJPW ppv.


amorningofsleep

Got a match booked with WARHORSE [next month](https://twitter.com/JPWARHORSE/status/1549149643153571845).


pumpingbomba

That sounds great. If he goes somewhere close to me I will probably buy tickets for that.


spandroo

Not digging Butcher’s new look w the warrior fringe and shorty shorts. Looked way more imposing w the basic leather long bois.


cantspellsagitaryus

Sooo... Will butch be regular pete dunne soon?


TheGeeMan360

I just want Kevin Dunn out of the truck ASAP and then maybe I’ll give WWE another chance. The camera work is the biggest thing I can’t stand


ChairmanLaParka

What if Triple H's first act is he goes to the truck and says "Hey Kevin, cut the shit. Stop with the rapid cuts & zooms?" Could he stay then?


TheGeeMan360

I’d be okay with that but there have been multiple reports over the years about how Triple H and Stephanie both don’t care for Dunn so I don’t see him staying around


Dolfo10564

I just subscribed to peacock, and I'm tuning in to raw tonight for the first time in 15 years. The bump to 14, V stepping down, and HHH getting lead being the main reasons. I'm excited to see what path the new guard takes, and I'm looking forward to watching with my kid just like I did with my grandpa.


BirthdayAgent

It is also wildly plausible they use a big event like Summerslam to mark the transition. Can’t upend everything tonight when they’ve been building to Saturday


Thenoodlestreet

Don't expect any major changes right off the bat tho. I'm sure there will be change and I'm really excited but I'm mainly excited for what's gonna happen post SS thru Mania and I'm gonna keep a close eye.


Dolfo10564

It's my way of showing that I support a new direction. Numbers are what the people up top look at, and if they see an influx of new subs that means Steph and HHH should get more freedom. I think. I don't really know anything. It's just how I feel about it.


Thenoodlestreet

For sure, I feel you. I just meant to say don't be disappointed if there's no immediate changes tonight like a lot of people are expecting.


ACW1129

If Vince'd used his own money to pay women, that'd be sleazy but not illegal. Using company money...that seems like possible fraud of some sort.


revan530

It 100% is. This is why he is being forced to step-down and retire. As we all assumed, this was not a voluntary decision by Vince.


SleepyLink12

Everyone thought the day Vince would no longer be involved in day to day WWE business, the stock would tank. On the contrary, the stock has soared more than 10% since Friday afternoon.


victoriabattenberg

Yes, because the markets believe that WWE will be sold.


Thirdstar1

MJF is coming back Wednesday


amhlilhaus

Please please please


YeezyCudi2020

Please 😭


illseeyouinthefog

WWE stock up 8% today and is the highest it's been since pre-pandemic


unknowingchuck

Hypocrisy is the name of Squaredcircle, CM Punk, FTR and Dirtsheet writers. Going off of all the flame that was sent towards WWE during the Sasha/Naomi walkout. To now all being silent (Punk, FTR, Dirtsheet ppl) when it happens to Gresham. To yet again saying shut up and be grateful for your job by SC which they also said about Awesome Kong, Marko and Big Swole when they voice their problems or just didn't want their named used for heat. Or how the whole Cody stuff went down after reports said he wanted more money and was difficult backstage just appeared out of nowhere. So what happened to standing by the talent? Whenever a wrestler in WWE said they were unhappy or misused it was always Vince fault but now you get people going out of the way to excuse Tony when it all it falls on them both. Now having one person saying its not on Tony absolves him of anything when it doesn't matter if anyone in WWE says they are treated good. And another saying they have a good relationship also doesn't absolve him of everything. A lot of y'all don't care about wrestlers at all. You're quick to praise people that gives praise to AEW/Tony regardless of who they are Cornette and Janela but as soon as there is problems you turn on the talent. As Punk said if its good or bad stand by talent but most of you won't follow that at all especially Punk. Hypocrites the lot of ya.


AP_StrongStyle

If Tony Schiavone opens this week's Dynamite by declaring that Gresham is unprofessional and let Ring of Honor fans down, you'll have a point. AEW's talent relations department, and possibly Tony Khan, appear to have a communication problem. That's not quite the same thing as directing your commentary and marketing teams to publicly bury talent over a real-world grievance.


jjd8teen

It’s honestly insane the hypocrisy from everyone. Honestly I expect it from CM Punk at this point, it’s pretty known that he’s a scumbag. Anyone who says otherwise is purposely ignoring all the glaring evidence because they like him as a wrestler. Just because he had some good political takes (which I happen to agree with them all) doesn’t mean he’s a good person.


unknowingchuck

The promo Triple H did on punk has always been true he cares about himself and speaks up for brownie points. And thats towards his wrestling views and not political ones.


Stueykins

I think the issue is that we have had decades of WWE being a machine that chews people up and spits people out. That means if another case happens it's just further evidence and understandable to draw negative conclusions about the company or Vince or Johnny Ace etc etc. Add to that very popular wrestlers are quite vocal about poor working conditions (like Punk) and even those who defend it sort of suggest it's part of Vince's genius that he's an asshole. By contrast, a relatively new company which the majority of wrestlers have praised on the whole and the CEO specifically, they get a bit more of a pass because they haven't built up that ill will. Does that mean we should ignore/blame Gresham and the the like? No. But it's understandable people give Khan an easier ride than any McMahon


unknowingchuck

No, No, No there has been stuff like this multiple times of bad communication between talent and the leads of AEW. That Punk thing about standing with talent still rings hollow due to it being when the Sasha/Naomi thing happened so where is his with Gresham? And you are doing exactly what I said using others praise as a way to give a pass. Why should Tony be given an easier ride when he works for two bigger and lucrative sports (soccer and football) if anything he should have less leeway due to him having those on his resume.


wolfbetter

What do you think of Mad Cap Moss? I’m really high oh him and he can be a solid high level mid carder at least. Despite the horrible name.


LeoIunti

I don't like the gimmick or name but, yeah he can be a decent midcard guy. The Match he had with Mcintyre at Elimination Chamber was solid enough for example


amhlilhaus

He strikes me as a typical wwe trained guy Solid but wont make anyone mistake them for jay white, cm punk, or even seth rollins


jdaqcruz

So, Trips will be booking Cody's return. Who would have ever thought haha. Let's also bring back swamp Wyatt why not


jadedfan55

I'm pretty sure Hunter has a running list of phone #'s to contact people about returning........


amhlilhaus

This depends on how much budget he has Word was nick khan just paring payroll so


standardprocdure

I firmly believe Stephanie is Vince's ouster. Triple H was positioning himself to take over from Vince, until AEW came along. Vince made the call to put NXT up against them, disrupting the environment that Triple H had created. Vince and Bruce Prichard's constant meddling made the product worse, until eventually it just couldn't compete with AEW. Vince takes that as an opportunity to remove Triple H from NXT and strip him of his board position. He probably saw Triple H as a threat, because when you're someone like Vince McMahon, everyone is a threat. I'm not saying this is fact, but it honestly would not surprise me. Vince did Triple H dirty with NXT, would not surprise me if Stephanie took umbridge with the way her father was treating her husband. That's all I'm saying and we all know this family is fucked up enough that this is easily in the realm of possibility.


BloodFalconPunch

We're fantasy booking the corporate side of WWE now, huh?


standardprocdure

Why not? We fantasy book every god damn thing else around here.


amhlilhaus

And its reported shane is on the outs with stephanie so hes not coming back


Pylons

People don't really understand that HHH was working with a handicap (both in a good and bad way) during his time booking NXT. He didn't really need to worry about cooling someone off when they lost the title because they'd instantly be Vince's problem. That also meant some reigns and stories had abrupt endings because someone would get called up suddenly.


adivenk93

Balor wins the WWE Championship at last,


definethegreatline

i'm hoping WWE talent get to do cameos (on their own accord, without WWE interference) and stream on twitch again


krayonic

This is the first time in a LONG time that I have felt more optimistic about WWE than AEW. And I am usually very very optimistic about AEW and I still am in the long term, but both companies definitely have some short term kinks to work through and I’m excited to see where we’ll be in a few months.


ibn1989

I would say don't hold your breath with WWE yet. Vince has only been out for 4 days. If things change I don't think they'll change right away.


krayonic

They for sure aren’t changing tonight or even this week. I don’t think we will really start to see significant changes until the next few months and certainly not until the road to WM at the very least. But I’m interested to see what does start to change in the short term.


free-fall1982

Honestly, is there a chance, that Tripe H's booking ideas will feel so fresh, that some of the AEW fans and maybe event talent will come back to the fed? TK's creativity has started to show its cracks and part of the AEW momentum might be lost as it was Vince Mcmahon's figure that alienated many fans who then flocked to AEW.


dannydamaja

>some of the AEW fans and maybe event talent will come back to the fed? It would take a lot for me to want to tune in again, but nothing is impossible. Just need someone compelling.


mroogieboogiesays

Yeah, Vince was certainly the biggest issue but he was not solely responsible for me giving up WWE, and I think that's true of many people.


krayonic

I definitely think anything is possible. I know WWE’s booking won’t change overnight but I think it’ll be interesting to see what direction they decide to go in after SummerSlam.


MclovinBuddha

I understand why it would stupid to run a babyface/babyface world title program right now, but I’d love to see Adam Page face Jon Moxley


justambrose

If necessary, Moxley can easily shift to the heel side for this feud. They have to do it. I don’t think Punk will be ready by All Out. If he is, he can return at All Out after the Mox/Hangman match to face off with the winner of that match.


45jayhay

There is literally nothing stupid about that within the context of AEW


MclovinBuddha

I just assume that’s the only reason Hanger hasn’t gotten a rematch


45jayhay

I mean really championship rematches are a rarity, I only remember Mox and Sammy really getting one and they probably cool down on Hangman losing too many big matches after being champion so soon


Alito4life

Not financial advice. Wall Street is loving Vince’s departure! 👀👀


sundaynightheat99

I'm excited for Trips taking over creative, but I'm also not expecting overnight change. I also doubt it'll be as good as black-and-gold NXT as he'll have to deal with non-wrestling people like Nick Khan, networks, and sponsors.


flameducky

Excited for HHH in creative but also trying to temper expectations. Vince is still the majority shareholder and he's not going to allow H to put ANY person on top like he did in NXT. Main roster product is still Vinces legacy. I do hope this gives TK a swift kick in the ass though. AEW product is still great but it's not as good as it was last year. Needs more focus.


motivatedchange

Shareholders do not have any say in the day-to-day operations of a company.


ackinsocraycray

> I do hope this gives TK a swift kick in the ass though. AEW product is still great but it's not as good as it was last year. Needs more focus. I think the news with Gresham and Tully coming out after a decent ROH PPV reception should be a damn wake up call to him. TK needs to delegate his roles for booking and creative and have a better team in place when it comes to communication amongst their wrestlers. Much like how Regal was Triple H's guy in NXT, I think Regal and/or other veteran wrestlers can help out TK too.


jqncg

I just realised that Sasha could return to WWE and that the 0,01% chance of her doing a tour in Japan might be completely dead now. I'm sad.


GoalaAmeobi

Same with Io coming back any time soon


ackinsocraycray

Sasha would have to think like Mox or Danielson for that to happen. Both guys chose wanting to challenge themselves and wrestle elsewhere and against different opponents as opposed to staying as WWE lifers. Although I can see Danielson being the most likely to return to WWE after his AEW stint ends. I think Sasha will do whatever makes her happy. But man... it would be fun to see Mercedes out there.


jqncg

I'm not really sure if Moxley and Bryan would've left WWE in these circumstances though. Obviously, we can just guess for now, but it's not too unrealistic to think that management relationship with that kind of names would've been much different seeing how Triple H has been so protective of his guys. Sasha could make that jump but the safest bet has always been staying in WWE and the same goes for any name as big as her.


Glacko

What was the most popular promotion in Japan during the 2000’s?


e-rage

PRIDE FC


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dannydamaja

Are we the authority again or nah


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finnigans_cake

In Chikara a while back Archibald Peck re-packaged as Mixed Martial Archie, which was hilarious. He acted super serious, did pretty much nothing but grapples and strikes and cut terrible promos. It was a comedy gimmick, but basically was what you're describing.


ACW1129

>banning 12-6 elbows, knees & kicks to a grounded opponents head Out of curiosity, but why are those banned, yet punches are fine?


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ACW1129

Okay...but then what about knees and kicks?


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ACW1129

Odd. Knees to heads doesn't seem much worse than punches to heads.


Kanenums88

Looking at the weather forecast for Saturday it seems there’s a good chance we’re going to see some rain during the show and there’s no roof. If you’re attending you might want to bring a poncho.


el_sh33p

ngl, I think AEW is about to get its teeth kicked in. Up until now they've competed with a WWE that was operating at multiple severe handicaps. Pretty much all of those handicaps are now gone or in the process of phasing out, and the worst case scenario of the company being gobbled up by a mega-corp that doesn't know how to run it hasn't come to pass (at least not yet). And that's ignoring how AEW has started mimicking the classic WCW/TNA mistakes of trying to scoop up a bunch of WWE-marked big names and trying to present themselves as WWE But Better/Your WWE Favorites Getting Their Flowers.


pagalpun

If this happened 2 years ago, sure. At this stage AEW has its own separate dedicated fanbase that is independent of WWE


victoriabattenberg

I think there may be some truth to this, but I would offer a few counterpoints. First, WWE has spent the last 20 years convincing a lot of people that the only person who can successfully run a wrestling promotion is named Vince McMahon. With him abruptly gone, they're going to want to reassure their partners and the people who pay them that not much is changing. While I expect there will be a lot of smaller changes that feel like bigger changes, I don't know that WWE will overnight change its entire philosophy. Vince McMahon still owns 80% of the voting stock in WWE. He may not be on site to scream into the announcers ears, and the micromanaging may get better, but he's still going to have a say in the overall direction of the company. The two promotions have different audiences. I'm not sure that people are going to stop watching AEW and go to WWE. I'm not sure I have confidence in WWE's ability to draw new fans. All of this is conjecture, but I think any belief that AEW is going to get creamed in the near future has to take something like these points into account.


zerogamewhatsoever

Unless WWE completely changes their production, product, stupid red and blue brands, cartoonish action figure “superstars,” quick cut cameras, etc. etc., I am still not going back to watching it.


el_sh33p

Good points, all. I do think it'll take about three to six months for the WWE engine to get revved up. That gives plenty of time for Tony Khan to adapt and change direction. The problem is he's getting to be notorious for his inability to effectively do either.


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flameducky

>ngl, I think AEW is about to get its teeth kicked in. This is basically what everyone said about NXT going head to head with AEW at the start. The part people are missing is that Vince is still the majority shareholder and he's not going to allow H to put ANY person on top like he did in NXT. Main roster product is still Vinces legacy. There are a lot more masters to serve with main roster creative.


Your_Personal_Jesus

Yeah, If anything Vince was much better at doing the WWE model. If Triple H is just gonna go "beat the indy start-up promotion at their own game" again he's the only one risking getting "his teeth kicked in". AEW are just better at that than Hunter is.


brosal741

Difference this time is Tony is starting with a deeper and better roster.


el_sh33p

McMahon may still have a large degree of influence but he's also going to be sweating the feds and lawsuits at this point and will be at enough of a distance that he can't actively alter the product five minutes before a match. Like, consistent quality alone is going to be a huge upheaval between the two since that's been one of AEW's biggest advantages.