stan lee: "spider-man will have relatable real-world problems, like being unpopular, running late for school/work and paying rent"
marvel editorial: "everybody hates him, he's constantly unemployed, and he's always broke, understood."
Yeah. I'm a bit tired of Peter having to struggle for literally breathing. It's too much. I can admire an everyman, but that's been lost. Reading Spidey comics is almost depressing now. I want to escape into a world of heroes and powers, I want to escape. I don't want to be more depressed. That's what I turn to spidey for, for comfort. But this isn't it anymore. Peter doesn't tell me to keep fighting anymore, he tells me that everything sucks and i should give up. I should just sell my soul for my life to suck even more.
I want to see him married with kids and STILL KICK ASS. And not, you know, lose a leg and hang his "cape".
Let the married man vent his stress by applying it to criminal element.
Ehh, this meme was largely popularized after NWH, so the missing context is MOVIE Spidey fans (particularly the ones who were not satisfied with the direction Holland’s Peter was going before the movie released). As for Main Universe 616 Spidey fans, well pretty much all agree that he’s earned his happiness YEARS ago
Yeah I don't mind them being rich and super popular just let the shitty part of his life take place first and then he can is Horizon Labs type job where it gets paid a bunch and doesn't have to abide by a regular clock
Right, but he’s already HAD his lower points. The beauty of the character before OMD was that he had a constant arc that never stopped. He grew ip, graduated high school then graduated college. Then at like 25-28 he was married and had a job and was a functional adult and had gotten through his lows to his highs
Since OMD it’s just been a resetting of the same arc. Build him up then knock him down
What the MCU is set to do is start his progression the same way that Spider-Man originally had before OMD. That’s the difference between the two. We know he comic is just gonna continue repeating
It's all good! You were just trying to be helpful. And you apologized after doing something you thought wrong. To be honest most of this community should have that quality.
For sure. Lots of downvotes and harassment instead of explaining and discussion. If not for the memes and comic/music news I’d have deleted reddit a while back lmao
For the record that was only in Reign. In the main universe MJ is basically immune to anything he can do to her due to how often they had fun times together
I don't mind him being successful at all, im bothered when he loses his character in the proccess.
Not our fault the writers can't figure out a way to keep him being Peter Parker while making some fucking money and having a steady relationship.
Man. Imagine having a character that has a few people close to him that love him and support him and are liked by the fans and you just kill one and mind erase the others to forget them. That would be messed up, right? Especially if it was against the express wishes of these characters. Wouldn't want to do that.
Where is the Peter Parker series where he's an overweight game tester with no future? Where is the Peter Parker series where he's a CEO of Parker Industries and forever regretting never pursuing MJ?
People want drama and Peter being miserable - let's explore those.
No. Just no. Can we not have this anymore? No more struggling for rent, no more depression, no more everyone around him fucking dying all the time. Enough is enough.
EDIT: Apparently wanting Peter Parker to be happy is *bad* thing. 🙃
That was my biggest grip with Tom Holland’s Spider-Man it felt like he’s had to true struggle I could relate to. Now that he’s on his own lost it’ll be interesting to see where his story goes.
the problem is a bunch of shit writers forget that the purpose of bringing a character to their lowest is so they can overcome it and become better because of it, no one wants a character permanently at their lowest its boring and lazy
I always connected with Peter Parker because we had similar struggles, rent, job, relationships. I always thought, if he can get through it, so can I. He got up, so I can get up. Now i would love to see him find happiness. If he can succeed, I can succeed.
Movie fans: YESSSS! SPIDEY DEPRESSED WITH NO ONE TO TURN TO IN FILMSSS Comic Fans: -_-
stan lee: "spider-man will have relatable real-world problems, like being unpopular, running late for school/work and paying rent" marvel editorial: "everybody hates him, he's constantly unemployed, and he's always broke, understood."
Yeah. I'm a bit tired of Peter having to struggle for literally breathing. It's too much. I can admire an everyman, but that's been lost. Reading Spidey comics is almost depressing now. I want to escape into a world of heroes and powers, I want to escape. I don't want to be more depressed. That's what I turn to spidey for, for comfort. But this isn't it anymore. Peter doesn't tell me to keep fighting anymore, he tells me that everything sucks and i should give up. I should just sell my soul for my life to suck even more.
I Guess this dude really doesn't know Peter's community, the most part of us want to see him finally happy with a stable relatioship
My dream is that one day Pete gets permanent happiness.
Me too man... Me too
At this point, I'll even take him dying permanently, if it means he can finally be at peace.
Got that in the Ultimate Universe only for them to bring him back again...
I want to see him married with kids and STILL KICK ASS. And not, you know, lose a leg and hang his "cape". Let the married man vent his stress by applying it to criminal element.
It is, this is just how Marvel sees Spider-Man fans apparently
Ehh, this meme was largely popularized after NWH, so the missing context is MOVIE Spidey fans (particularly the ones who were not satisfied with the direction Holland’s Peter was going before the movie released). As for Main Universe 616 Spidey fans, well pretty much all agree that he’s earned his happiness YEARS ago
Oh ok, thanks for explenations
Yeah I don't mind them being rich and super popular just let the shitty part of his life take place first and then he can is Horizon Labs type job where it gets paid a bunch and doesn't have to abide by a regular clock
there's a middle ground between a broke af loser and him being a multi-billionaire tony stark knockoff. That's what most fans want at this point
This is only true for the MCU films, fans want Spider-Man to have a happy and successful life in the comics
He needs to be low before he can go high. That’s how it always is when he leaves high school. Then he builds it back up again
Yeah, but Peter is lower than low right now. Motherfuckers in the upside down at this point
Right, but he’s already HAD his lower points. The beauty of the character before OMD was that he had a constant arc that never stopped. He grew ip, graduated high school then graduated college. Then at like 25-28 he was married and had a job and was a functional adult and had gotten through his lows to his highs Since OMD it’s just been a resetting of the same arc. Build him up then knock him down What the MCU is set to do is start his progression the same way that Spider-Man originally had before OMD. That’s the difference between the two. We know he comic is just gonna continue repeating
Oh I'm aware, I'm not disagreeing. MCU wise, I love that the character is at his potentially lowest. Comic wise, give my Boi a break
Oh I’m sorry I thought you were asking a question. I didn’t mean to come off pretentious or anything
It's all good! You were just trying to be helpful. And you apologized after doing something you thought wrong. To be honest most of this community should have that quality.
For sure. Lots of downvotes and harassment instead of explaining and discussion. If not for the memes and comic/music news I’d have deleted reddit a while back lmao
I feel you there
Yeah I have zero interest in seeing Pete suffer, and I actually think it's weird that Marvel editorial thinks anyone does. Who is asking for this?
It’s post like this that Marvel sees and think it’s true and keep giving the same crap stories with it
Yeah but honestly, were getting tired of this trope tbh. Rather make something different like making a Spider-Family TV Show.
he cant have family, he is radio active and cant have babies :(
Or… we can pretend that never happened. Yes, that’s a better idea 😈
yeah!!
That was only a thing in Reign
good
For the record that was only in Reign. In the main universe MJ is basically immune to anything he can do to her due to how often they had fun times together
i hope he becomes a dad
Please don't remind me of that ISTG
I don't mind him being successful at all, im bothered when he loses his character in the proccess. Not our fault the writers can't figure out a way to keep him being Peter Parker while making some fucking money and having a steady relationship.
When I was a kid, I could relate to Peter more when this life wasn't good. But endless misery is exhausting.
Movies sure, because he hadn't really suffered yet, but comics wise it's editors
I just want him in a stable relationship with MJ and have a spider child. Preferably if it becomes Mayday Parker
Man. Imagine having a character that has a few people close to him that love him and support him and are liked by the fans and you just kill one and mind erase the others to forget them. That would be messed up, right? Especially if it was against the express wishes of these characters. Wouldn't want to do that.
I assume this person's not talking about the current comic version.
Peter is suffering so much " Finally a good spiderman movie in the mcu"
Status quo nerds when a retcon resets things to the overused status quo. unzippingpants.jpg
HE JUST LIKE ME FR
Hey I mean some people are mad that the mcu isn't hyper realistic
They forgot to add that we want to see that struggle to make the impact of finally seeing him happy that much more meaningfull
He’s just like me fr
Where is the Peter Parker series where he's an overweight game tester with no future? Where is the Peter Parker series where he's a CEO of Parker Industries and forever regretting never pursuing MJ? People want drama and Peter being miserable - let's explore those.
No. Just no. Can we not have this anymore? No more struggling for rent, no more depression, no more everyone around him fucking dying all the time. Enough is enough. EDIT: Apparently wanting Peter Parker to be happy is *bad* thing. 🙃
That was my biggest grip with Tom Holland’s Spider-Man it felt like he’s had to true struggle I could relate to. Now that he’s on his own lost it’ll be interesting to see where his story goes.
the problem is a bunch of shit writers forget that the purpose of bringing a character to their lowest is so they can overcome it and become better because of it, no one wants a character permanently at their lowest its boring and lazy
I’m curious if there is a wealthy version of Spider-Man
Not me
No what I want is a Spider-Family show on Freeform and Disney plus with Jake Johnson as Peter Parker and Sadie Sink as Mayday Parker!
So he’s me
Spider-intern no more.
Admittedly he's been like that for decades, he really does deserve to grow up
no any bozo can "make good stories" that way. a little pain goes a long way.
I always connected with Peter Parker because we had similar struggles, rent, job, relationships. I always thought, if he can get through it, so can I. He got up, so I can get up. Now i would love to see him find happiness. If he can succeed, I can succeed.