I'm Isaaq. We seem to be a minority in this subreddit based on how common Isaaq bashing has become.
I think we could all use more empathy and try to see things from the others perspective. I support reunification but just in the last day I've seen many posts here calling for war on SL and the killing of Isaaq.
Many Isaaq are brainwashed to hate other Somalis, this is true. The main argument most Isaaq's have against being a part of Somalia is:
Instability and lack of safety
Isaaq Genocide
If Al Shabab is defeated and Somalia becomes more peaceful, one of the major reasons to be pro SL will no longer be true. Everyone is looking out for their own best interests Isaaq, Darod, Hawiye, etc. However once you've solved that first argument and foreign investment enters Somalia, it will be in the best interests of Isaaq to rejoin.
One other major thing holding this back is the lack of a proper voting system. Many Isaaq believe if they reunify they will be neglected as political power is concentrated in the South.
TLDR: If Al Shabab is defeated, foreign investors come to Somalia and 1M1V is established then there can be good faith discussion that leads to full reunification.
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The south is majority raxanweyn and hawiye I thought?
Yes but Darood seem to run things down there through their monopoly of the presidency and politics
Ain’t no Darod running things in the south, only place they have a say is in Jubaland (which 80% of is occupied by AS) and once every 5 years in Mog
Most of jubaland is not darood
The biggest two clans in it are.
Biggest is relative. You can be the largest 1 clan in an area but not the majority.
How cans anyone expect anything good from people who their diaspora includes blue make up, Queen Qawan, Ayan Hirsi, Iman, Ilhan Omar. Homosexuals and atheists. Habaar is upon this tribe.
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And pre colonial times raxanweyn had empires
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Mj were the majority?
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Do u think abgaal would allow that
“In the case of the Isaaq, many people are not willing to accept the extent to which Siad Barre's regime went to villify and demonise them and it became so natural that we still use many of the same tropes. Siad Barre is the one who pushed the whole 'gaalrac' and traitor thing and one of the main propaganda campaigns he did was to paint the Darawiish as a Darood project and the Isaaq as colonial collaborators- even though in reality the Darawiish was a multi-clan pan Somali religious movement that had heavy support from Isaaq sub-clans initially and many clans including some Dhulbahante subclans collaborated with the British.” “ I support Somali unity but I also understand that there are genuine reasons why Isaaq and indeed other northern clans have been skeptical of being governed from Mogadisho. This has a long history starting even before the unification of British and Italian Somaliland if you read accounts of how Egal's delegation was treated in Mogadisho, the heavily lopsided deal that favoured the South entirely, the coup attempt by northern officers in 1961, etc.” This is Historical revisionism as its finest. Maxamad Siyaad Barre wasn’t the one who pushed the term “Gaalraac”, actually it predates him. In fact, it’s the Great Sayid Maxamad Cabdulle Xassan. The term originates the simple fact that Isaaq was collaborators of the brutish British empire and aiding them while other Somalis (Daraawish) waging a noble self defense war against the invaders. Gaalraac is a term which has its rightful reasons to exist. Yes, not all Daraawish was Dhulbahante, but majority of them were. Just like not all Taliban are Afghanis, but historically, originally, and majority wise Taliban is an Afghani. We don’t usually focus on the outliers and exceptions here, they exist everywhere. Daraawish were Dhulbahante predominantly in a huge margin. With this rants, you might intended to appeal the emotional side of some, but your pathetic attempt to re-write history should be fact-checked. Your last paragraph is literally what Muuse Biixi just said yesterday in his 18 May speech or should I say rant. Egal was treated normally unless he had some preconceived entitlement that he thought he would get a special attention and treatment like a royalty. One more thing that is so common amongst the pro-Somalilanders is the twist of the actual history and the cringe way of finding a way to display their victim card. I was cringing when Muuse Biixi was telling the whole Somaliland that Egal was put behind the bars because he’s an isaaq, when in fact, he’s a traitor that singed off the NFD area and jeopardized the ambition of the greater Somali unity. I always wondered what was the motivation and aspirations behind such a treasonous actions? but later, and with the help of a lot of information, I found out that the fact that he’s one those who came up and doctored the rather political alliance new found term of “Irirsamale” his reason to sign off a rightful Somali soil to ajaanib was simply motivated by the fear of Daarood becoming the majority of Somalia. He was staunch qabiiliste masquerading as a nationalist. He’s a national traitor with the capital T, and no amount of weak historical revisionism would change that simple fact. And I’m here for it to challenge. Have a good day!
Throw some Psilocybin Mushrooms into the mix.
I 100% agree with your post, especially the power sharing issue, Somalis are very tribal (unfortunately) the Isaaq clan must feel that they have a place in a united Somalia, waa in la is qanciyo
Non isaaq here and I wholeheartedly agree with you!
I’m sorry but you can’t complain about people hating Isaaq when you leave out a crucial bit of context, Isaaq (not all of course) have been vilifying, insulting and dividing Somalis for 30 yrs non stop. People are justifiably upset because the anti-Somalia rhetoric from Landers isn’t just rhetoric anymore it’s now full blown war against unionists. How do you expect people to react? People are just tired of the constant victim narrative when your side are the ones bombing innocent civilians.
Speaking of that, wallahi I was shocked by how landers hate Somalia like we see not the from the same ethnicity. First time I experienced this I was astonished! I was defending us against mathowga engiriiska on YouTube when I had this isaq join in, and guess whom he sided with? Wallahi he was calling us worser names than the mathow (madaxwen, folxumo, burced badeed, etc) literally all the cayy out there like it doesn’t apply to him. And it wasn’t until I checked his profile I realized it’s an isaq who has a deep seeded hate for us. Then I realized he’s from wadanka ingiriska and immediate the phrase “hurt people hurt people’ came to mind. If u know anything about isaqs in ingiriska then u know what I’m talking about! The biggest fulays also live there. Imagine being bullied until u hated ur own to the core! I now no longer defend isaq from that country, and they deserve everything that happened to them, had it not been majority isaqs living there, the bullying wouldn’t have happened I swear. Reason why somalida maraykanka wouldn’t take shit is cause there are barely any isaqs here, or fulays for that matter.
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Firstly isaaq and darood have been marrying for hundreds of years. My parents, grandparents, great grandparents and great great grandparents are majeerteen and isaaq couples thats nearly 200 years of intermarriage. Im sorry to say this but Ur family have other family issues that need reconciliation and therapy bcuz thats not normal none of my family have ever fought over qabiil because we find it ceeb and humiliating. Im so sorry for what happened to u in xamar, ppl have alot of anger for isaaq because ppl view them as synonymous to secessionists which is very wrong to generalise. My great aunt lives in xamar rn and shes isaaq she really enjoys it 🤷🏾♂️
True
>have been vilifying, insulting and dividing Somalis for 30 yrs If we are talking Somaliland then they decided to join.
Who decided to join? You think it was just Isaaqs that decided to join? One of the biggest reasons Somaliland joined the rest of Somalia was the USP party, it was a Warsangeli, dhulbahante and Samaroon party that was staunchly unionist and was one of the two most powerful parties in the North. So It wasn’t just Isaaqs that decided to join it was all of us, therefore Isaaqs don’t have a right to unilaterally secede either.
The USP was a minority party, and also it wasn't a "staunchly unionist" whatever the hell that means, with the Dhulbahante garaad calling for caution in fact. All parties in Somaliland were unionist. The whole raison d'etre for the forming of the USP were for clannist reasons and anti-isaaq sentiments. Some things just don't change lmao
Just like the other dude asked, may I also ask what census do you use to arrive such a conclusion that USP was a minority party ? Do you genuinely believe that Dhulbahante+Warsangali+Samaroon are minority to Isaaq? In what way? Degaan or individuals numbers? Lmao this kool aid must be good if it causes you to say such a ridiculous thing.
Tldr: yes I do genuinely believe that Isaaq has a higher population than "Dhulbahante+Warsangali+Samaroon" its just the facts lmao Did the USP ever win an election in Somaliland? Were they ever the largest party? No. Even in their best election result in 1960, they only won 12 seats of the 33 seats in the Somaliland parliament. And if you combined the votes of the USP and SYL, they got a 31.25% of the vote share, a minority to the vote share earned by the SNL and NUF of 68.75% The majority of the Dhulbahante, Warsangeli, Samaroon, and Cisse supported the USP and SYL, while the Isaaq mainly supported the SNL and NUF led by Egal and Mariano respectively. There hasn't been a census in a long time anywhere in somaliweyn so can't give you figures. However, the UN 2014 population estimates say that Somaliland is about 3,508,180 ppl in the 6 regions of the country. If we pretend that there are no Isaaqs in Sool(327,428) or Sanaag(544,123) and give the entire population numbers to the darood, plus Awdal(673,263) amounts to 44% of Somaliland. Waqooyi Galbeed(1,242,003) and Togdheer(721,363) = 56% of the population, a clear majority. This is obviously very crude because many Isaaq people live in Sool and Sanaag, much more than the darood that live in Togdheer (buhoodle) but you get the gist. Even in the most Liberal estimates of the Non-isaaq population of Somaliland, Isaaq people constitute a clear majority from 56% to the more likely 65-70%. This has always been known by people living in the North and has always been the reason Dhulbahante and Warsangeli people have always agitated against Somaliland, during the British era or a United Northern agenda during the Somali Republic and now during free Somaliland. Its why they formed the USP, why they were eager supporters of Barre during MOD and now they've ruined the long 30 year peace in LA. The time has come to accept reality
Not all Dhulbahantes were part of the USP, they were split among parties. USP was a staunchly pan-Somali party, that was literally their platform. So you have no idea what you’re talking about. Secondly, USP wasn’t a minority party, what census did you use to arrive at that conclusion? As usual Isaaqs love to inflate their numbers lol.
> You think it was just Isaaqs that decided to join? No, I don't think that, but looking back on all this, it was a bad idea to join.
If you don't think Daarood and Hawiye politicians/ 'leaders' have been vilifying and insulting other Somalis all while dragging our collective name through the mud then you are being willfully obtuse. They have the same shitty political culture essentially all other Somalis do it's just been deemed acceptable to hate on them for doing what other Somalis would've done in their positions, tbh. I'm not Isaaq, btw. That I would even need to qualify my earlier statement with this info itself highlights how far low the collective has fallen, though.
What other clan is attempting to create an alternate history and culture for the purpose of clan hegemony? What other clan is trying to force other clans to join their clan hegemonic goals against their will and is currently bombing civilians to do that? What the Landers are doing is materially different from what other clans do, you’re the one being obtuse if you don’t acknowledge that.
1. 'Clans' arent actors but certain sections of the political class that 'rep' their clans most certainly are. Having said that, there are absolutely plenty of other Somali political actors who twist history to serve their ends. In fact, that's pretty universal in human politics more generally. History has always been a battleground where hearts are won and lost. Those same actors have no problem differentiating themselves or chest thumping about Somalinimo when it suits them. 2. MJ political class is one example. They had no compunctions about inviting an aggressive, regional hegemon to invade our land if it meant they would have the slightest political leverage against Hawiye. These guys would rather see Somalia as a pile of ashes than a Somalia where they aren't at the top. They've also had a big influence on setting the trend for this culture where every little tol has a flag. They certainly got their wish of being 'big influencers', it's just never been a healthy influence. Funny considering their current posturing as 'pro-unity' in LA. At least the braindead Isaaq politicians wear their hate for Somali unity on their sleeves. Dhulka Soomaaliyeed cudur 'laandhernimo' la yiraahdo baa haysata sxb. Any sizeable group is willing to embarrass and weaken the collective if it means short term bragging rights against other Somalis. I'm OG and i regularly see ppl brag about 'owning jigjiga' when I would get thrown in a dungeon or shot in the face by some box-headed ethiopian if I even looked at him the wrong way. If even Ogaden, who you would think would be the *most* understanding of the need for broader Somali political unity, regularly engage in this shit what do you expect from those whose powerbase is mostly in SL/Somalia? The only innocent ones are the powerless '.5' sxb
Deflecting much? The subject is isaaq
May Allah swt help all the dhulbahantes 🙏🏾
Isaaqs play victim too much, they’re upset over what did happen 32 years ago - although large amount of Somalis from all clans were killed and are now doing the exact same thing to laascaanood? Sorry but I have zero sympathy.
Analogy - “You can’t beat a wife bloody for years and expect her to magically come back to the marriage /union? And as years have passed can’t say, hey babes, I beat you long ago sweet heart, get over it!” You sound like what whites in America say about slavery! “It was such a long time ago… please get over it Tyrone!” Reunification is a pipe dream. Governance in the south is incredibly undemocratic and corrupt. With seats and representations going to the highest bidder. Now some clans of Somalia might be okay with that and turn a blind eye to it. But tribes in the north who push for SL recognition see the mirage it is and push for separation. Djibouti always did it right by doing their own thing, ethically Somali but they govern their own affairs and are quite ahead of other countries in the horn.
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I want reparations not your stupid sympathy
> Somalis I’m telling you man you say this as if you're not ethncially somali yourself. Ilahi ka cabso
Yeah walahi. Victim blaming at its finest. You can destroy a person brutally and then say “hey buddy, why do you keep bringing it up, stop being a victim Ahmed, it was long ago!”
You don’t have to get over it, and conversely we don’t have to accept your politicisation of it.
Sorry landers when did I say get over it? If you read what I said I was talking about the fact that those same ppl that were playing victim for decades are doing the exact same oppression/violence to those in laascaanood You can’t do both😅 Also you guys were not the only ppl that were being murdered horrendously.
>Isaaqs play victim too much, they’re upset over what did happen 32 years ago 32ya Somalia was not functional.
Ok so it’s isaaq fault the other ppl that got killed don’t care? Either way they weren’t killed in the same numbers isaaqs were, 90% of Hargeisa was destroyed, name a non-isaaq city that was destroyed that much. Also what’s happening in lascaanood is not even 10% of what happened in the 80s. Don’t forgot somaliland withdrew to goocajade willing to calm down tensions and thats where they still are now, siad barre would’ve never done what muse did.
Nah we do care, innocent lives were lost on both sides. We just don’t paint ourselves as the only victims in this war for decades and demand sympathy from the whites… also don’t justify killing with your statistics in 2023.
While I mostly agree with your post, I think you're overly optimistic. First, disclosures: I'm not Isaaq, but many of my first cousins are as some of my aunts, who were born and bred in the North, naturally married men from neighboring clans. Soomaalidu waa dad is dhalay ama wada dhashay! To hate Isaaq, for me, is literally like hating my own blood. But in a broader sense as well, to hate Isaaq - regardless of close personal kinships - is to hate Somalis. One cannot claim soomaalinimo and hate someone who calls himself Somali. One of the problems here however is that through their secession, many (not all!) Isaaq have constructed an identity separate from the greater Somali identity. To do so, they have distanced themselves from Somalis and, as pointed out elsewhere, vilified many Somali clans. Hardliners will not even refer to themselves as *Somali* but as *Somali****landers.*** Even with peace and prosperity, deconstructing this identity will be very difficult and more so the longer the secession remains. My other issue here is related to the vilification. Anyone who disputes the targeted attacks on North-Western territories, today's Somaliland, and the mass-killings of Isaaq, needs a history lesson. You call it a genocide, some Isaaq even refer to it as a holocaust, but both of these terms perpetuate a popular misconception: That there was an alliance of clans who specifically targeted the Isaaq. When in reality there was an autocratic regime that sought to destroy its opposition and anyone it believed to support said opposition. Then, due to the clan structure of our society, this effectively meant killing clan-and kinsmen of oppositional leaders. In the first years of the communist regime, this played out as frequent and infrequent purging of smaller groups of people. Arrests and execution squads in the middle of the night. Mostly aimed at individuals from the military, political office and civil service. Famously in the mid 70s, the religious clergy was attacked by the state. The very first state-waged war against its citizens didn't happen in Hargeysa, it happened in 1981-82 when colonel Abdullahi Yusuf started a guerilla war in the Ethiopian border attacking Barre's regime. In retaliation, the state targeted Cumar Maxamuud (the clan of Yusuf) in Nugaal and Mudug. Raping women and killing thousands of innocent people as well as poisoning wells and burning crops. All the while, even through this and later, in what you refer to as the Isaaq genocide, there were both Majerteen *and* Isaaq represented in the state apparatus or enriching themselves, with the state's blessing, as businessmen. In fact, even though USC (Hawiye) targeted Darood at the beginning of the war because Darood were accused of being one with Barre, there were a multitude of Hawiye clans at the helm of the communist revolution! So, portraying the years up to the civil war and the civil war years as a "clan vs. clan"-period is reductive. Clan has always been a popular excuse in Somali politics, an opium for the masses. The real picture is much more complicated. I refer you to this essay: [https://sites.tufts.edu/reinventingpeace/2013/10/22/state-sponsored-violence-and-conflict-under-mahamed-siyad-barre-the-emergence-of-path-dependent-patterns-of-violence/](https://sites.tufts.edu/reinventingpeace/2013/10/22/state-sponsored-violence-and-conflict-under-mahamed-siyad-barre-the-emergence-of-path-dependent-patterns-of-violence/) But this opium has created the foundation for Somaliland, Puntland, the federal state and the 4.5 system. Until we learn our true history and truly understand the machinations of the men who led us to where we are today, we will never truly succeed as a nation.
The thing I differ on about this is that the underlying mentality is that political power should be distributed evenly along tribal lines rather than state contributions. Why should isaaq’s or darood’s or hawiye’s be entitled to political power? As far as it’s concerned in a federal system they’re just a demographic in an state… what’s stopping them from migrating southwards or southerners migrating northwards. The real question would be how to make the north politically viable if there is a peaceful south. The answer is almost always better economic productivity which means trade and that will largely be contingent regional recognition.
Isaaq Genocide??? Bruhh they weren't the only one that on the Bad side of the Siyad bare Soldiers! All Somalis where fighting and killing each other
All is pretty big statement, for instance a large part of darood didn’t fight
Its not about who fought the war and who didn't! Its about the Isaaq people making it seem like they were the only ones that got killed
Yes that part is weird
Yeah they make it seem like Isaaq vs All other Somalis... Which is full BS!... But i can't blame most of them because they take History classes from their Nannies
Ok so it’s isaaq fault the other ppl that got killed don’t care? Either way they weren’t killed in the same numbers isaaqs were, 90% of Hargeisa was destroyed, name a non-isaaq city that was destroyed that much.
Its Not Isaaq's fault but STOP MAKING IT ALL ABOUT YOU... Everyone suffered stop being Attention seekers! Hargeisa was the second capital! Garowe and Almost alot the village in the west suffered same as Hargeisa. Also other people "Care" about what happened but they don't project it to get sympathy of other countries.
Liar show me one vid/pic of a destroyed garowe like Hargeisa was. I can show you multiple vids of Hargeisa completely obliterated.
Bruhh literally Proving my Point 😂!! Hargeisa Lovesss to advertise the Civil War, they even Have Plastic warplanes to get sympathy.... In the Other Regions people don't take pictures and use them to depate! What happened Happened Move On Dude, Isaaq weren't the only ones that got "Genocide" by the siyad bare Soldiers, also the SNM killed and did "Genocide" you wanna talk about all the innocent people that got killed by the Isaaq's SNM??
Your hoe dude. You really wanna minimize what was done to us but when y’all get mad you pull out the Ol 200k Isaaqs packed” line. Which one is it you lying monkey. Other Somalis experiences minimal damage. Maybe 1k died at best. We were slaughtered. Fuk outta here. What slaughtering in the same numbers have we done? We could’ve slaughtered all of DH back in 1990s. We choice not to. Google it. Even now we let you mf leave LA. 100k of you. We couldn’t just packed y’all out. You do realize right.
200k isaaq? 1k best?? Where did you get those stats from?? Bruh you get Clowned by your Grandma soo bad, she should have thought you some manners rather than filling you with Hatred!
My ayeyo didn’t have to teach me shit. Everything is on google. 200k is the number our locals said. 1k I admit is bs but you get my point. Your casualties don’t pass 10k at worse. Anyways instead of thinking you can convince any of us of your lies maybe try being empathetic & have some respect for the ppl that created somalinimo & your little somalia.
I think you have to accept Isaaq won't return to the fold after 32 years of brainwashing.
Please stop with the self-victimisation and self-pity, and kumbaya nonsense. Isaaq people based on goodwill and misplaced feelings of Nationalism and brotherhood abandoned their own state to join in with other "somali" people, and got nothing but dispossession and marginalisation as a consequence. This started as soon as 1961 btw never mind later times. The truth is Isaaq and the North don't need anything from Somalia and that country has absolutely nothing to offer its own citizens never mind Isaaq people. Somaliland is the ultimate culmination of the self-determination of our People and those who live with us. It's a project about self-reliance the national liberation of our land and people from foreigners and atheist communists. Somaliland has been fascist free for 32 years now, that is longer than the period it was under occupation, 1960-1991. All we can say is alhamdulillah for that and long may it continue.
If you want to secede you can with your own clan lands but you ain’t going with the land of unionists besides the only people who were genocided are isaaq so on what basis are they forcing others to secede with them given that dhulbahante and samaroon to an extent are pro unionists.
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The vast majority of awdal is pro somaliland
And all Garaada of those people said other wise, i don’t know why you think you are right and fabricate things
Awdal, sure, if there's a majority vote there. There is no such thing as SSC however. Sool, Sanaag, and Togdheer aren't gonna be cut up and divided along clan lines. DH and other people unhappy with Somaliland are gonna have to convince everyone there about changing the status quo as SL did in 1991 when all the elders of the clans in SL agreed in Burco. Anyone talking about an "SSC" is a clan expansionist
Perfect example of Isaaq hypocrisy. Self determination for me, but not for thee. And then they’ll whine about how victimized they are. Awesome.
Bit hypocritical when you didn’t even give us our self-determination now you want us to do it to others? I’m not even isaaq aswell.
We’re not asking you to give anyone self-determination, you don’t even control Harti so you’re in no position to do that anyway. The hypocrisy is in you whining about self determination while trying to deny the self determination of others with guns. Nobody in Mogadishu is bombing Burco, but Hargeisa is bombing Las canood, therefore your actions are the actions of a hypocrite.
Why shouldn’t it be carved along clan lines? You’re happy to carve Somalia along clan lines (which I fundamentally don’t disagree with given the status quo), but refuse to have your own state cut along state lines? SSC is real as of today.
Stop the facade awdal are pro-succession and they literally just celebrated 18 may with so many people in the streets with their Somaliland flags. It’s only the ppl who live in the west that are unionist. Also sool and sanag do not belong to you, I’ve got a lot of family that live in sanag that support somaliland. Also be realistic now, there’s no such thing as cayn it’s called buudhodle in togdheer which dhulbahante called cayn after they lost so much land to habar jeclo when they went to war in the 60s. Habar jeclo sitting on 60% of dhulbahante ancestral lands, even their garad said habar jeclo have our dhul by xoog.
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We are the majority. If they wanna do that then beat us & die for it. Same way our folks did it. Otherwise keep whinning like a hoe
32 year just to lose it 3 months how's las anod people ever gonna trust you again
**Isaaq?**
I will add another thing. I would love to move the capital from Xamar to Hargeisa.
A war with Somaliland is inevitable, I don’t know what anyone else think but its gonna happen, I don’t want it to happen but it’s gonna be the only solution to either Somalis unite or somaliland become independent
No I’m the biggest unionist out there, I’m confident HSM or the next president will succeed through talks! No-one is going to march to shed Hargeisa blood and vice versa
They’re already shedding Las Canood blood. Southern Somalis are truly oblivious. You’re talking about peace talks while they’re butchering unionists.
This lie is it 😂 is it ssc genocide or is y’all packing us out…y’all flip flop every day
I hope so but if they don't stop attacking SSC things might get ugly for them
How much khat?
Why would you say that?
It’s the reality
We need to move the capital closer to Somaliland somewhere around dhusomareb or hobyo. Mogadishu is very far
No, we should build a New modern smart city, a good location would be xaafuun, it's a good close location etc
Wayyy to hot bro cerigaabo or burco is a better bet
way to cold plus There's no Beach there, The new city must have a Beach, it's mandatory by law!😂
So many capital cities dont have beaches why not let muqdisho be the hot beachy capital and burco/cerigaabo be the colder inland capital
Mogadishu is not safe and not well designed, Safety is the biggest reason why we need a new capital,
what's your view on Bargaal or Hobyo?? the weather is good and the Beaches are extremely Beautiful top 10!😅
Why not 2 capitals? One in the north and one in the south like South Africa with 3 capitals
That's actually not a Bad idea, 😎
Nope mogadishu should always be the capital of Somalia there is no other city that can compete with it.
Tbh, as someone born in Xamar and feel deeply attached to it, we should move the capital because the demographics of Xamar are being abused to control national policy. Either that abuse should stop, or the capital should be moved to more neutral territory. It would still be commercial capital even if the political capital is moved.
Two capitals sounds wayy better One in the north like burco or cerigaabo and one in the south muqdisho
Nope. Never
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We should be the border between Darood and Hawiye
Is that galkacyo?
Something like that
You created the problem and then want to cry for our help
Typical dumb Somali
\>Many Isaaq believe if they reunify they will be neglected as political power is concentrated in the South. As it should be. The capital and center of the country is Muqdisho. There's no functioning government that isn't centralized. There's no timeline in which Muqdisho and Hargeisa can be equals withing Somalia.
Keep zoomalia buddy. Clearly we better at managing a country
Zoomaliland will never be recognized period. Keep dreaming dog
Recognizes or not we run you weaklings. Bow down you inferior peasant
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😂 that’s the lie today huh. One day it’s ssc genocide next day oh we packing out isaaqs 🤣 make up y’all mind you pathetic imbeciles. Do you know how many isaaqs hope to gawd we go to war again omg. It would be a blood bath for you faqash. 3k Isaaqs with little weapons destroyed the top military in Africa. Now that we beefed up trust me it’ll be a darood genocide you weakling.
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Oh the ones from half a century ago…how about you try the ones rn in 2023 in LA 😆
They're cooking you even though you're dick riding them 😂😂😂
Ur whole username is the ancestor of millions of ppl hes prolly some old sheikh whos just minding his business and died thousands years ago maxaa ka rabtaa? 😂
He didn't exist. Somalis like to exaggerate.
What about sheikh isaaq or hawiye
That’s why you never give in 😂 the faqash don’t know who to stop being a faqash. What lunatics
Exactly. Imagine being a self respecting Isaaqi and begging somalians. Absolute f\*cking disgrace.
Fake isaaq leave our name alone hooyada wasee naag yahow we aren't that soft stop begging the same people who hates your own people go back to your motherland and learn your own people's historynd thier struggles.the way you begging kacaan orphans it's disgusting kid.🤮
Low iq mindset
Of course futoxejis would say that garac is always garac that's why you have 0 president in somalilnd. couse nobody is trusting ya'll.go worship your xaarood master's. You dickriding the people who massacred a whole village of your people they can't do that to other isaaqs in Ethiopia.they know really isaaqs would never bow down nio orda DNA test sameeya 😏
Bruh you dickride Ethiopia, you let them fuck you left and right! And you say we're not Soft??? Clowns 🤡🤡🤣
We had the first president doocilyahow qudhmah oo habar awal ah hadaa madaxweyne nimada la idin ka saarayaa somaliland oo dan baa idinku kacday neefoe
Says "futoxejis" Her victim mind assumes it's a Habar Awal. Also what kind of Isaaq lahjad is "doocil"?
One that u learn back home not for daqan celis like uu
What part of Somaliland do people say "doocil"?
Hahahah I laughed at doocil! Suldaamada sounds like a cross of qadaadwayn and qaldaan offspring.😂😂😂.
Take this L
Well said sxb. I doubt he’s a lander if he is it’s a kid who hasn’t experienced faqashism yet. He’ll learn.
You got some warm Ethiopian dick up your ass and you like it
He's right. There are a lot of xaroods larping as Isaaq on this sub
LOL kacaan orphans I recently learned what that was and it’s hilarious
I have a question for you. Today I seen couple of xaflat for isaaq celebrating 18may. In couple of speeches, they justify war in ssc and attacking them. Thier reason is that are the government and brining order back. I honestly agree, in the real world that’s understandable if they were an actual country but they are not. But how do they justify ssc but don’t see what the kacaan did. The kacaan was a government and seen snm(isaaq) was a threat since they took arms. Also it wasn’t just isaaq but every group who took arms. Do they not see how hypocritical they are. I don’t believe the word genocide is correct terms for Somalis killing each other in anywhere in history but I understand people have wronged each other. Sorry for the rant, lol I just wanted to say this
It's because we always want a federal state. We can't see that a federal state will only mean that minority tribes will be ata colossal disadvantage.