Even though I don’t agree with the secessionism of SL, the southern part of Somalia should get its shit together first and eradicate Alshabab and find a system that works for them.
It’s pretty much over. SSC uprising was a major blow to the Somaliland administration something they didn’t see coming. I even watched a street interview in burco all saying what has Somaliland actually done for us “we don’t even have a functioning airport and it’s closed most of the time”. People are now starting to wake up and reject this nonsense secessionist ideology which has no benefits to people of the north of Somalia. Only people that benefit from this is the political elites/mercenaries but not the ordinary people.
Lol, nothing is going to happen and no war will take place. Beesha Garxajis Isaaq who is the main opposition party Waddani declared that if the election did not take place on 13 November 2021 they will start a war. And guess what happened absolutely nothing everyone went about their daily tasks.
Nobody has an appetite for conflict and believe me no enemy has been successful in beating SL Army. You will just have more innocent people losing their lives for no reason.
Khaatumo rebels lost battles back in 2012 with SL and eventually agreed to talks with SL which made the leader SSC Haglotosiye a minister in SL and the SSC was dissolved. My point is don't believe all this hype Jamhuuriyadda Soomaaliland has been through many difficult trials and successfully overcame them In-Sha-Allah this will be no different.
Soon you will see all the garaads invited and having a meeting with the president of SL that preparation is already underway. They just waiting on the final communique that garaads bring.
This latest news from his excellency M.B.C president of Jamhuuriyadaa Soomaaliland.
https://youtu.be/o-PL-fkQXQM
Losing SSC was a massive blow to their claims of legitimacy. They will never attain international recognition unless Xamar allows it. They should return to the union.
You are willing-fully lying/ignoring the fact that Somaliland currently doesn’t control following towns in Sool and Sanaag:
Adhicadeeye, El Ayo, Haylan, Buraan, Kalabaydh, Wiidhwiidh, Ceegag, Goljano, Dandan, Xargaga, Dabataag, Yagoori, Caroolay, Yeyle , Tukaraq, Talex, Hudun, Lasocurdan, Hiingalool, Dhahar, Awrboogays, Fiqifuliye, Ganbadhe, Samakaab, Horufadhi, Lasqoray, Hadhwanaag, Faleeryaale, Badhan, Buuhoodle and Laascaanood 2023.
Nothing, they were exposed for what they are, a 1 clan enclave. I suspect they’ll continue playing pretend but nobody will take them seriously after this.
Simply come to the union & stop selling fake ideology to the young generation. Awdal & Zylac are planning their own uprising. I am not sure how accurate that is....
Theres a big population of gadabursi in djibouti and they all live peacefully also how are they gonna join somalia with a country inbetween them 😭 also dir dont get much representation in somalia so from their perspective it would be stupid
And what If the afar ally with the Gadabursi politically? Guelleh currently has hegemony due to clan politics, why would he threaten that by giving the Gadabursi way more demographic power thereby introducing an unpredictable variable? Politics 101.
Yes they want to stay in Somalia, they are represented as Dir in the current system. Honestly Somalia needs to hurry up and catch up with the rest of the world and do a 1person = 1vote election
I mean if somaliland with its 5 million population were part of somalia it would be impossible not to have an isaaq/dir president but ur right the current government is so useless we need a renewal
The reason why is bc they are not politically organized. The system we got rn is 4.5 meaning Diir and RX are both accounted as 2 same way darod n hawiyo combined are 2, those tribes should ask themself why they aint able to organize themself? Diir is a big tribe all over Somalia however 0 unity same with RX.
SL kicked out ethnic Somalis living in Lasanood from their homes and businesses for pure racism. Imagining those poor people making Dua against their oppressors.
They gonna commit a massacre, sooner or later. Their media is preparing the ppl in Hargeisa, Burco and other cities. Frankly, the ppl there don't need preparation, they already want harsh retaliation against Laascaanood and its inhabitant. Yesterday, Biixi was calling the ppl in laascaanood with blue flag as Terrorists and Khawaariji. God knows what they gonna do next.
I truly believe Allah is exposing their lies, corruption and land-grabbing and oppressive regime for the world to see, so you shameless bottom-feeders crawling out of the woodworks like roaches to defend the government of Somaliland whether in the diaspora or elsewhere—give it up, your schtick is over!
I will always remember this [video](https://twitter.com/kingofsomaliaa/status/1617963509899472897?s=46&t=3vkiwJ52wcIPY3XAyWUEow) of this young boy who was forcibly evicted from Laascaanood along with hundreds of others. Ironically, everything he said in the video, we are witnessing now. SL’s “borders” will shrink until what is left is hargeisa.
somaliland hormar ma gaareyso! their days are numbered.
Yup I lost all respect for SL back in 2018, when they sided with the Ethiopians against the ONLF. Imagine breaking your back for ETHIOPIANS over your own ethnicity because of selfish reasons.
that was genuinely one of the worst things to come out of Somali politics. wallahi as long as I am alive, I will never forget SL & PL capturing ONLF and handing them over to ethiopia.
The SL project has come to an end. Nobody believes in the SL project anymore. Waddani, UCID, and Kulmiye are all bloodthirsty politicians who don't care about the people of SL. Isaaqs in Somaliland are even dissatisfied with the government. HA controls nearly every governmental sector (Gashandhigga, for example), while other Isaaqs feel excluded (Arab, Ayub, etc). The SSC uprising demonstrated to everyone that this long 30-year "recognition" had failed miserably.
The gov should just ignore SL until Al shabab is finished then we can resume talks if the Habr awal refuses then it’s quite simple you empower the Garxajis who have been marginalized within Isaaqs. Art off politics.
The kacan died along time ago buddy even my tribe east of erigavo fought and were massacred by the regime that is over 30 years ago and the new government started in 2012 so again stop the B's and just apologize
Who is ”you guys”. Hawiye is the single biggest Clan in Somalia and they were allied with SNM. Raxanweyn were marginalized during the Kacaan and had no part in atrocities committed against the north. Daarood were split, the first victims of the Barre regime were the Majeerteen, a Daarood Clan. Who exactly do you want to get an apology from?
SSC will never take Sool and Sanaag. Isaaqs over populate those regions. They may have autonomy in Lascaanod. But their claim to Sool and Sanaag is null and void. They can keep LA.
But all off these regions are within Somaliland.
You guys are hilarious if you think SL magically dissolves cause a few hundred men have a few guns and wave a blue flag 😂
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hahaha I love how you just pulled that fake fact out your ass.
Harti and Samaaron are what? 15-25 percent of the population. Plus there’s even an substantial amount of Isaaqs that live in Sool and Sanaag. I wish there were recent numbers I could reference. But using old data, I’d say Isaaqs are more or equal to 40% of land SSC claims.
They’re still guests in other peoples territory, I’m talking about samaroon & harti territory which is in their name, it doesn’t matter who moves to sool and sanaag it will still be harti territory esp when it becomes it’s own state, cope.
When will you put the khat down and see the reality on the ground without las anod even districts like awdal are being to rethink this complete none sense you call a functioning government and will probably start rebelling too.
Hahah walahi your funny. No inch of SL will ever be cut out. Our borders are non-negotiable. No Puntland. No Somali Federal Gov can inch into our borders. Deni is literally retarded for saying earlier this week that Sool and Sanaag are part of Puntland. 😂
The Dhuhulbantes and Samaarons if they want more power and to be represented better need to come to the table and negotiate with the SL gov in Hargeisa. They certainly have that opportunity as they scared the gov to the core, negotiating with the SL gov ceding to their demands are very much in their favor. Everything is possible, but some things are just nonnegtionable, like Puntland taking over or it becoming a region in the federal system.
Somaliland biggest value is our peace over the last 30+ years. The moment terrorists and militias start destabilizing that, there will be no more peace as all of us will grab a gun.
Dude look up the news or go ask your immediate family I don't know if it's drugs or just plain mental illness las anod has been in civilian control for the past month and all the garads just decided to start expelling SL in all scc land are you looking at want everybody else is looking at saxiib
Hold your horses son. Somaliland still controls Sool and Sanaag. Once the Dhulbahante meeting is concluded the Somaliland army will roll back to Las Anod. The future of Somaliland is bright. Oil has been discovered and the US is in the process of setting up a permanent consulate in Hargeisa.
Laascaanood and SSC is fully in the control of its people. The sooner Idöors accept that, the better. Spewing self-indoctrinated propaganda won’t change the reality on the ground.
He doesn’t understand that he’s pushing them away when he denies that it’s a local uprising. And ignoring the fact that Somaliland doesn’t control Yeyle, Tukaraq, Talex, Yeyle, Hudun, Lasocurdan, Awrboogays, Fiqifuliye, Horufadhi and many other towns in southeastern Sool and Eastern Sanaag that couldn’t remember top of my head.
Also them inflate/deflating numbers when they see fit like above is one of the reasons the world never took their claims serious between 1991-2011.
ethiopia can barely control the different tribal militias running around slaughtering each other, what makes you think they have any say in Somalias sovereignty?
Lying to people on social media won’t change the reality on the ground. Its over buddy
I’ve never seen this level of cope, no country recognizes that clan enclave. Also if ethoipia backed you so much why haven’t they recognized you? There will be no fighting since ssc already booted you guys from their lands. The people have spoke, even your own administration realized they lost when they retreated. Any further violence will dismantle this facade of “peace and democracy” you’ve been screaming about for 30+ years. It’s over buddy. Ssc free, awdal next ✅
“Come fight u coward” while sleeping in his mums house collecting aid from the government in uk 🤣🤣🤣
The only people who want isaaqland are habr awal while other isaaq clans (garxajis) are being marginalised. And its not up for debate my maternal family is garxajis
Somali politics (somalia, djibouti, somaliland) is riddled with qayaalad it’s intertwined. If I didn’t mention qabil than 50% of somali politics would be erased. Somaliland is a clan enclave, somalia is a clan federation so how would i not talk about qabiil?
Talking about tribalism didn’t u say u support ethiopia over somalia while they’re slaughtering ur people?
U cant use the qabiil card when u indulge in it urself
Somaliland itself is an exercise in petty qabilism. It’s an Isaaq project, period, there is literally no other basis for its existence. Keep begging for recognition for another 30 years, with the SSC revolution the whole world knows Cuqdadland is full of shit.
Dhabo dilif for ethiopia but than i dont blame u. Ethiopians are the ones that allowed u guys to have this fake project called somaliland. Ethiopia had way more deaths in 2 years than somalia has in 10 years keep slurping ethiopian cock since thats the only thing u know
You see all the videos from the entire region against Somaliland? Former police commanders switching sides, flags going up, etc. It’s not a fallacy. The fallacy is with people like you who think you can control another reigon and people by force.
>Neither Somaliland or Ethiopia
Holy shit this so funny. Mf doesn't even bother to pretend that his qabil project is not just an Ethiopian backed client state, he drops it outloud like its nothing lmao.
Even though I don’t agree with the secessionism of SL, the southern part of Somalia should get its shit together first and eradicate Alshabab and find a system that works for them.
It’s pretty much over. SSC uprising was a major blow to the Somaliland administration something they didn’t see coming. I even watched a street interview in burco all saying what has Somaliland actually done for us “we don’t even have a functioning airport and it’s closed most of the time”. People are now starting to wake up and reject this nonsense secessionist ideology which has no benefits to people of the north of Somalia. Only people that benefit from this is the political elites/mercenaries but not the ordinary people.
Lol, nothing is going to happen and no war will take place. Beesha Garxajis Isaaq who is the main opposition party Waddani declared that if the election did not take place on 13 November 2021 they will start a war. And guess what happened absolutely nothing everyone went about their daily tasks. Nobody has an appetite for conflict and believe me no enemy has been successful in beating SL Army. You will just have more innocent people losing their lives for no reason. Khaatumo rebels lost battles back in 2012 with SL and eventually agreed to talks with SL which made the leader SSC Haglotosiye a minister in SL and the SSC was dissolved. My point is don't believe all this hype Jamhuuriyadda Soomaaliland has been through many difficult trials and successfully overcame them In-Sha-Allah this will be no different. Soon you will see all the garaads invited and having a meeting with the president of SL that preparation is already underway. They just waiting on the final communique that garaads bring. This latest news from his excellency M.B.C president of Jamhuuriyadaa Soomaaliland. https://youtu.be/o-PL-fkQXQM
Losing SSC was a massive blow to their claims of legitimacy. They will never attain international recognition unless Xamar allows it. They should return to the union.
And how would that benefit them?
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All gone bud
Do you think lascaanood is the whole ssc?😂
Personally as long as you've understood that it no longer belongs to you is good enough for now we'll see when erigavo starts protesting too
Where did I say it doesn’t belong to us 🤣
No, SSC is bro
Your right these fools think lascaanood is the whole of sool and sanaag
You are willing-fully lying/ignoring the fact that Somaliland currently doesn’t control following towns in Sool and Sanaag: Adhicadeeye, El Ayo, Haylan, Buraan, Kalabaydh, Wiidhwiidh, Ceegag, Goljano, Dandan, Xargaga, Dabataag, Yagoori, Caroolay, Yeyle , Tukaraq, Talex, Hudun, Lasocurdan, Hiingalool, Dhahar, Awrboogays, Fiqifuliye, Ganbadhe, Samakaab, Horufadhi, Lasqoray, Hadhwanaag, Faleeryaale, Badhan, Buuhoodle and Laascaanood 2023.
Don’t forget the towns belonging to fiqishina
Nothing, they were exposed for what they are, a 1 clan enclave. I suspect they’ll continue playing pretend but nobody will take them seriously after this.
Simply come to the union & stop selling fake ideology to the young generation. Awdal & Zylac are planning their own uprising. I am not sure how accurate that is....
Awdal would probably join djibouti which is better than somaliland
Gadabursi don’t get along with Cisse, so no.
Theres a big population of gadabursi in djibouti and they all live peacefully also how are they gonna join somalia with a country inbetween them 😭 also dir dont get much representation in somalia so from their perspective it would be stupid
You’re assuming ismail omar guelleh wants them to join.
Wont that give him more territory technically?
yeah and more ppl to compete against him for power 😂
Afar are a sizeable population in djibouti but he doesn’t see them as a threat
And what If the afar ally with the Gadabursi politically? Guelleh currently has hegemony due to clan politics, why would he threaten that by giving the Gadabursi way more demographic power thereby introducing an unpredictable variable? Politics 101.
And thats on why dictatorships are ridiculous
What country are you referring too, north west of somalia? Sorry but it's all one country saxib stop the lies
I dont even know what ur point is or what ur trying to say?
Not true, majority of my friend group are Samaroon and I’m engaged to a Samaroon woman, that clan wants nothing to do with Somaliland or Djibouti
So they want to join somalia with a barrier inbetween them? Also they dont get much representation from somalia politics
Yes they want to stay in Somalia, they are represented as Dir in the current system. Honestly Somalia needs to hurry up and catch up with the rest of the world and do a 1person = 1vote election
They cant even become president tho? Only daarod and hawiye can become president
Thats the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard in my life, more reason for us to not join shit.
I mean if somaliland with its 5 million population were part of somalia it would be impossible not to have an isaaq/dir president but ur right the current government is so useless we need a renewal
I know, I don’t likes the current system, that’s why I’m advocating for 1p1v
Can u tell me the pros of 1p1v
If you have to ask that question, I’m sure nothing I say will persuade you and I don’t feel like having a debate on democracy
No im genuinely asking not for the sake of debate i genuinely want to know
The reason why is bc they are not politically organized. The system we got rn is 4.5 meaning Diir and RX are both accounted as 2 same way darod n hawiyo combined are 2, those tribes should ask themself why they aint able to organize themself? Diir is a big tribe all over Somalia however 0 unity same with RX.
SL kicked out ethnic Somalis living in Lasanood from their homes and businesses for pure racism. Imagining those poor people making Dua against their oppressors.
Racism kulaha were the same people. Qabyalaad is the right word here. SL are also fellow Somalis it’s in the name.
difference between qabyalad and racism is subjective but one in the same. I understand all Somalis are the same race. Overall it is discrimination.
Some of those rx who got ‘deported’ have come back to lascaanood
They gonna commit a massacre, sooner or later. Their media is preparing the ppl in Hargeisa, Burco and other cities. Frankly, the ppl there don't need preparation, they already want harsh retaliation against Laascaanood and its inhabitant. Yesterday, Biixi was calling the ppl in laascaanood with blue flag as Terrorists and Khawaariji. God knows what they gonna do next.
I truly believe Allah is exposing their lies, corruption and land-grabbing and oppressive regime for the world to see, so you shameless bottom-feeders crawling out of the woodworks like roaches to defend the government of Somaliland whether in the diaspora or elsewhere—give it up, your schtick is over! I will always remember this [video](https://twitter.com/kingofsomaliaa/status/1617963509899472897?s=46&t=3vkiwJ52wcIPY3XAyWUEow) of this young boy who was forcibly evicted from Laascaanood along with hundreds of others. Ironically, everything he said in the video, we are witnessing now. SL’s “borders” will shrink until what is left is hargeisa. somaliland hormar ma gaareyso! their days are numbered.
Yup I lost all respect for SL back in 2018, when they sided with the Ethiopians against the ONLF. Imagine breaking your back for ETHIOPIANS over your own ethnicity because of selfish reasons.
that was genuinely one of the worst things to come out of Somali politics. wallahi as long as I am alive, I will never forget SL & PL capturing ONLF and handing them over to ethiopia.
Thats why federalism was the most stupid thing to happen to us
The SL project has come to an end. Nobody believes in the SL project anymore. Waddani, UCID, and Kulmiye are all bloodthirsty politicians who don't care about the people of SL. Isaaqs in Somaliland are even dissatisfied with the government. HA controls nearly every governmental sector (Gashandhigga, for example), while other Isaaqs feel excluded (Arab, Ayub, etc). The SSC uprising demonstrated to everyone that this long 30-year "recognition" had failed miserably.
The gov should just ignore SL until Al shabab is finished then we can resume talks if the Habr awal refuses then it’s quite simple you empower the Garxajis who have been marginalized within Isaaqs. Art off politics.
They should begin the process of apologizing to the whole of somalia for the horrible track record suppressing somalia unity and sovereignty.
Never gonna happen when are you guys gonna apologies for 200k isaaq and the other 800k u killed
The kacan died along time ago buddy even my tribe east of erigavo fought and were massacred by the regime that is over 30 years ago and the new government started in 2012 so again stop the B's and just apologize
Who is ”you guys”. Hawiye is the single biggest Clan in Somalia and they were allied with SNM. Raxanweyn were marginalized during the Kacaan and had no part in atrocities committed against the north. Daarood were split, the first victims of the Barre regime were the Majeerteen, a Daarood Clan. Who exactly do you want to get an apology from?
SSC will never take Sool and Sanaag. Isaaqs over populate those regions. They may have autonomy in Lascaanod. But their claim to Sool and Sanaag is null and void. They can keep LA. But all off these regions are within Somaliland. You guys are hilarious if you think SL magically dissolves cause a few hundred men have a few guns and wave a blue flag 😂
Harti and Samaroon have way more land in Somaliland than Isaaq does, stop the cap.
😂 hahaha I love how you just pulled that fake fact out your ass. Harti and Samaaron are what? 15-25 percent of the population. Plus there’s even an substantial amount of Isaaqs that live in Sool and Sanaag. I wish there were recent numbers I could reference. But using old data, I’d say Isaaqs are more or equal to 40% of land SSC claims.
They’re still guests in other peoples territory, I’m talking about samaroon & harti territory which is in their name, it doesn’t matter who moves to sool and sanaag it will still be harti territory esp when it becomes it’s own state, cope.
When will you put the khat down and see the reality on the ground without las anod even districts like awdal are being to rethink this complete none sense you call a functioning government and will probably start rebelling too.
Hahah walahi your funny. No inch of SL will ever be cut out. Our borders are non-negotiable. No Puntland. No Somali Federal Gov can inch into our borders. Deni is literally retarded for saying earlier this week that Sool and Sanaag are part of Puntland. 😂 The Dhuhulbantes and Samaarons if they want more power and to be represented better need to come to the table and negotiate with the SL gov in Hargeisa. They certainly have that opportunity as they scared the gov to the core, negotiating with the SL gov ceding to their demands are very much in their favor. Everything is possible, but some things are just nonnegtionable, like Puntland taking over or it becoming a region in the federal system. Somaliland biggest value is our peace over the last 30+ years. The moment terrorists and militias start destabilizing that, there will be no more peace as all of us will grab a gun.
Dude look up the news or go ask your immediate family I don't know if it's drugs or just plain mental illness las anod has been in civilian control for the past month and all the garads just decided to start expelling SL in all scc land are you looking at want everybody else is looking at saxiib
No Inch of SL will be changed!
You sound like a diehard somaliweyn unionists. The irony is killing me 🤣
Hold your horses son. Somaliland still controls Sool and Sanaag. Once the Dhulbahante meeting is concluded the Somaliland army will roll back to Las Anod. The future of Somaliland is bright. Oil has been discovered and the US is in the process of setting up a permanent consulate in Hargeisa.
“Consulate” more like foreign base (djibouti)
Bro most of the oil blocks are near laasgaanod and puntland.
Bro all the oil is in dhulbahante land. Meaning it belong to somalia
No actually it's been confirmed in only 2 areas by General Energy Corp; sallahley (ciidagale territory) and xood (habarjeclo territory)
It’s Genel energy and they can’t even drill in Somali territory their know to go to disputed areas like Kurdistan and steal resources
The ceo already said they are gonna drill in somaliland despite Somalias statement, cry about it.
The CEO can say a lot of things, it isn’t happening
Lol don’t worry you won’t have to wait long to see the oil being drilled
Your a funny bro the SL government has already given up don't you read the news dumbass
Never seen a fake nation more proud of being colonised
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Laascaanood and SSC is fully in the control of its people. The sooner Idöors accept that, the better. Spewing self-indoctrinated propaganda won’t change the reality on the ground.
He doesn’t understand that he’s pushing them away when he denies that it’s a local uprising. And ignoring the fact that Somaliland doesn’t control Yeyle, Tukaraq, Talex, Yeyle, Hudun, Lasocurdan, Awrboogays, Fiqifuliye, Horufadhi and many other towns in southeastern Sool and Eastern Sanaag that couldn’t remember top of my head. Also them inflate/deflating numbers when they see fit like above is one of the reasons the world never took their claims serious between 1991-2011.
It’s not propaganda but reality on the ground. Keep indulging yourself with cuqdad and qabyalaad like that will help your cause.
ethiopia can barely control the different tribal militias running around slaughtering each other, what makes you think they have any say in Somalias sovereignty? Lying to people on social media won’t change the reality on the ground. Its over buddy
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I’ve never seen this level of cope, no country recognizes that clan enclave. Also if ethoipia backed you so much why haven’t they recognized you? There will be no fighting since ssc already booted you guys from their lands. The people have spoke, even your own administration realized they lost when they retreated. Any further violence will dismantle this facade of “peace and democracy” you’ve been screaming about for 30+ years. It’s over buddy. Ssc free, awdal next ✅
Ur definitely coping bro 😭 atleast ull get ur triangle state is that not enough? Somaliland will become BBH (burco, berbera & Hargeisa) 🤣🤣
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“Come fight u coward” while sleeping in his mums house collecting aid from the government in uk 🤣🤣🤣 The only people who want isaaqland are habr awal while other isaaq clans (garxajis) are being marginalised. And its not up for debate my maternal family is garxajis
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Somali politics (somalia, djibouti, somaliland) is riddled with qayaalad it’s intertwined. If I didn’t mention qabil than 50% of somali politics would be erased. Somaliland is a clan enclave, somalia is a clan federation so how would i not talk about qabiil?
Talking about tribalism didn’t u say u support ethiopia over somalia while they’re slaughtering ur people? U cant use the qabiil card when u indulge in it urself
Somaliland itself is an exercise in petty qabilism. It’s an Isaaq project, period, there is literally no other basis for its existence. Keep begging for recognition for another 30 years, with the SSC revolution the whole world knows Cuqdadland is full of shit.
Dhabo dilif for ethiopia but than i dont blame u. Ethiopians are the ones that allowed u guys to have this fake project called somaliland. Ethiopia had way more deaths in 2 years than somalia has in 10 years keep slurping ethiopian cock since thats the only thing u know
Lol why do Ethiopia or those in the Somaliland gov decide what happens to SSC? Smh
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You see all the videos from the entire region against Somaliland? Former police commanders switching sides, flags going up, etc. It’s not a fallacy. The fallacy is with people like you who think you can control another reigon and people by force.
>Neither Somaliland or Ethiopia Holy shit this so funny. Mf doesn't even bother to pretend that his qabil project is not just an Ethiopian backed client state, he drops it outloud like its nothing lmao.
This is some fine cope