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mosmani

>But we got no option. Somaliland is run by one tribe and Puntland hasn’t done anything for us(and actively colludes with SL to derail us) Valid points right there but how can unity be achieved within and stand up for your people as one? That is a million dollar question. Dholus will need another Syed Abdalla 2.0....please contact Mustafa (cagjar) 😁...jk


SnooBunnies2591

A good solution would be to adopt 2 system nation (koonfur and northern somalia having autonomy as admin regions of one nation)...and getting rid of federalism which gives power to tribalism.


Somali_empowerment4

Or 18 regions


SnooBunnies2591

Yes but under the major two main regions


Somali_empowerment4

Where would the line start for south and north


SnooBunnies2591

the current line Between SL and koonfur


Somali_empowerment4

Thats dumb it should be everything north of galkacyo


Somali_empowerment4

Federal states are useless we need 18 regions back


noob-phile

What's the difference


Somali_empowerment4

Federal states each have autonomy to do what they like. 18 regions only have infrastructure and development power not military


noob-phile

You wanna centralise power ? Can I ask how much of african history do you know. Because I can tell you central military power in Africa is the problem of Africa. We somali chose the federal system not because of qabil but because dictators. To prevent dictators you can't have centralised power that's what makes them possible in the first place. So decentralise and as such no man can rule alone


Somali_empowerment4

Federalism is a temporary solution we need to think of our future. Maybe when 1m 1v is introduced then we can slowly centralise. Most developed countries dont have federalism


noob-phile

Most developed countries aren't african. First deal with the real issue then we'll figure out the rest. Nr 1 priority no dictator. Now am sure you are pretty smart please tell in practical terms what system besides federalism offers such protection against the formation of a dictator


Somali_empowerment4

Voting systems where u vote for ur leaders and can vote them out if they get crazy


noob-phile

Fun fact somalia was the first african to hold successful democratic transfer of power via election. Yet we ended up with a dictator. Funny history


Somali_empowerment4

We wouldve been like morroco if it weren’t for the dictator and those lousy rebels


noob-phile

We would've been better than Morocco


Somali_empowerment4

And surprisingly we are the least developed african country


noob-phile

😂😂😂 now I know you haven't been to Africa or somalia stop chatting shit


Somali_empowerment4

Funny but I currently live in nairobi lol and somalia is 100% less developed give me 1 country worse than somalia in development


ImYourRealDadHey

I thought u live in London why do u love lying this isn’t the first contradiction I seen you posting aswell


KaashadeWaaq

No because Puntland aka Majeerteen is against it and Jubbaland aka Ogaadeen will be against it too because that Jubbaland is puppet State of Puntland. Hawiye are against because third Daarood federal state will tilt the Federal government power into the Darood's favor. So khaatumo need a miracle to be a federal state. Sorry for using Qabyaalad but that is the reality of the matter.


GlitteringBuy

The biggest problem is Khaatumo needs to represent more than just Dhulo land. Sanaag and Sool as two regions could definitely be a state but given isaaq live in the west of it and Warsangeli in the east haven’t shown support for joining Khaatumo it’s not viable. But yes those are political problems that it would need to overcome. When Sheikh Shariif tried granting SSC federal status, both PL and MJ PM blocked it. Hawiye could support it in exchange for Banadir FMS status.


KaashadeWaaq

Of course there are countless problems facing Khaatumo statehood including those you mentioned But those two I mentioned is biggest hurtle and I can't see how they can get over that.


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Stop with that. Deni came out and said Puntland are not against that and would support that kind of solution Yes, the second you mention is big. Really that’s the problem they have.


KaashadeWaaq

Any link, I really haven't seen that? I'm reer Puntland so nothing against Puntland but I know our ruling class are against Khaatumo for some strange reason. Average Puntlander not so much.


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Yes, I’m go find that and send it your way. It’s basically a video of Deni saying Puntland is favor of whatever the people of SSC want.


prince_of_bari

Khaatumo is a region in Puntland so no


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prince_of_bari

Buuhodle, Taleex, Badhan, Las Qoray are waving the flag of Puntland. Who is lying here?


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prince_of_bari

Buthole and Talex are under Puntland.


TheMightyNomad

No they’re not. They’re under Khaatumo.