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Deserving-Critic

The way they ended up with the show and when they started filming is a little more complicated than that. Christine was a driving factor but it was a year long process for them to get a series. Because of the success of Big Love the TLC network decided they wanted to do a reality show about a polygamist family. They contracted with Bill Hayes, whose company did most of their reality family shows, to find a polygamist family to film. Bill Hayes first approached Joe Darger and his wives, upon whom Big Love had been based, but they refused. The Darger wives had been on several panels with Christine that were filmed for documentaries on polygamy. They recommended the Browns to TLC and Bill Hayes. So they filmed a pilot with the Browns, which was the first 30 minutes of the first episode. TLC watched the pilot and not only said no, but "hell no" to the Browns. Eight months later Kody approached TLC and said that he was adding a new wife into the dynamic. TLC then signed on and immediately had the filming crew start filming the seduction/courting of Robyn. That was the second half hour of the first episode. This episode was filmed almost a year after the pilot. As far as Robyn? She never claimed to have been in a polygamist first marriage. She was also only partly raised in polygamy. Her mother, after divorcing Robyn's birth father, married Paul Sullivan, who was a convert to the AUB from the LDS Church. Robyn was raised in St. George, but was introduced to her first husband (David Preston Jessop) by her step sister (Lisa), who was married to a Jessop from the AUB community in Pinesdale, Montana. While Robyn and her husband were from polygamist families, they never were that close to the church that they practiced polygamy. Robyn and David divorced, but they were separated for 3 years prior to the divorce. During those three years she lived in St George and was provided a lot of support by her step father, her two "mothers" and her siblings. Meri and Kody met Robyn while attending an AUB dance in St George. That is when the courtship began. But that was after they had been refused by TLC for their original pilot. So while it was Christine that started this adventure, it was Robyn that actually gave them the show. Because TLC knew that introducing Robyn would make it a really big show.


LisaKF1

This makes so much more sense now. I rewatched the pilot episode about a year back and it seemed really disjointed—now I see why!


Try-Purple

Thank you so much for this thorough breakdown, it’s actually so helpful! I want to note, however, that I do think that in the most recent season Robyn did say her and her first husband *intended* on being polygamists, but then didn’t— which, honestly, doesn’t really seem true… but I do remember her saying that, I believe.


throwawaybcimhalfgay

Yes I definitely remember this also. She’s said this a few times. She’s said that she her and her first husband wanted polygamy but never added a second wife. Also, that she always knew she’d be in this lifestyle. In the book she even says that she knew as a divorced woman she would never be a first wife again.


[deleted]

Not that many families live polygamy in the AUB. I know Owen Allred (the leader then) did an interview in the 90s saying he only permitted it for people he felt confident could handle the responsibilities of the principle.


madisengreen

Thank you for that explanation.


Deserving-Critic

No problem. The head of the production crew is a good friend of mine. He has been with them from the start. The production crew is based in Colorado and Utah.


StarsFan17

Would your friend like to do an AMA? :)


Deserving-Critic

>Community He has an NDA.


justsayin01

Robyn has flat out said in interviews, she ALWAYS wanted to be in a polygamous marriage but in her first marriage "they didn't have time".... Which makes zero sense. She might have never actually wanted to do it, but she has stated complete otherwise.


Deserving-Critic

Keep up or take notes. She said David Preston Jessop robed her of her innocence when he got her pregnant with Dayton. It was her infamous Purity Speech. Yes she wanted polygamy, which she stated this last season, but the man that robbed her of her purity wasn't the one she wanted it with. She wanted it with TLC, erm Kody.


Gramba24

Robbed her of her innocence!?!?! OMG YOU MUST KNOW COMEDIANS TOO!! Snobyn must be your bestee!! She was not raped, she consented therefor she wasn’t robbed/raped of her innocence by Jessop! The only person who robbed her of her damn innocence was her by SAYING YES out of wed lock!!


justsayin01

Lol let me get the link since you think you're SO SURE This is the article I read where it said she thought she'd always be In polygamy, but didn't have time in her first marriage. And also, maybe not be so fucking rude. https://soapdirt.com/tg-done-sister-wives-robyn-brown-told-get-out-there-by-mom/ Keep up or take notes 🙄🙄


Deserving-Critic

Get you the link? How about you watch the show we have all watched since 2010. What I said happened on the show.


justsayin01

Lmao sure then, get upset about a reality show. Go on. Knowing a person associated with it must be the absolute HIGHLIGHT of your life. Wow.


Gramba24

Ignore this dude, he doesn’t even know Christine was pregnant first episode, he just called her an elephant and if he watched the show he would know Snobyn and her ex were to be polygamist because she says it on the show!! Just a wanna be insider looking for attention!


Deserving-Critic

Soapdirt? Really? You mean the she needs to get her skunk scent out there article?


Gramba24

You called yourself an internet sleuth changed your story from there is no Tim to maybe he worked for Hayes in the end you must love soap dirt cuz you create it!!I I apologize THE BROWN FAMILY wrote a book that doesn’t fit your narrative, your gossip, your sleuths, your fiends, your production friends!! My post came straight from the HORSES MOUTH THE BROWN FAMILY!! Try reading it, you may learn something!


Lilrooster91

But Christine was very pregnant with Truly when they did that first half hour intro. That couldn’t have been filmed almost a year earlier?


Gramba24

You are so Correct!!!


Deserving-Critic

No she wasn't. Go watch the first 30 minutes of the first episode. She wasn't pregnant. By the second half hour so looked like an elephant.


Gramba24

Thanks for discrediting yourself, CHRISTINE WAS VERY MUCH PREGNANT!! Your comment regarding a pregnant woman is horrendous!! SO much for that inside info you have!! Your friends must be very proud knowing your calling a pregnant woman names!


[deleted]

She was heavily pregnant when Kody introduced you on the show...her said "here's my wife Christine and this is our little girl soon to come" and put his hand on Christines huge belly.


Noseynat

Thank you for taking the time to explain everything! This is very close to what I remember reading on TWOP way back when the show first started. I knew they had originally been rejected and then went back to TLC with the premise of adding Robyn. I have always had the theory that adding Robyn to the family was (for the most part) a business deal between them to get the show- and that part of the deal was that Robyn would eventually get legal wife status. That's why when they originally divorced they tried to do it on the downlow- and also why Robyn seems downright entitled and indignant during the divorce episodes, like it took longer then it was supposed to and she was annoyed.


Taileyk

Is this all info from the book??? You seem to know a lot about Robyn's family, did you do a background check or something?🤣


Deserving-Critic

None of it is from the book, it is just the naked truth. I am an internet sleuth, but this information is all that I received first hand from a reliable source; e.g., members of the AUB that I have known my entire life, as well as members of the production crew.


Gramba24

Mine is based on the book and their words the above is based on knowing a friend of friend in AUB and a friend in the business and internet..


Deserving-Critic

They took shortcuts in the book. My information is not a friend of a friend, it is first hand information. I went to high school with members of the AUB, and members of the Allred family.


[deleted]

Kody and Christine (mainly Christine) were doing worldwide media spots even before the show. I got really interested in fundamentalist mormonism because of the FLDS then started reading up about the AUB and principle voices. I saw Christine and Kody on the BBC and was very excited when I started seeing promos for the show a few years later and recognised them! Kody was desperate for fame imo.


Tall-Performance2782

But wait....Christine was introduced very pregnant with truley...if the first half hour and second half hour of the pilot were filmed a year apart....how was she still pregnant on episodes 2, 3, 4....etc.


FlippyFloppy8

i too find it SO obnoxious that Robyn had never been in a polygamous marriage yet showed up acting like the expert on it.


throwawaybcimhalfgay

I agree! Three women have been living the “lifestyle” for 20+ years and Robyn has the audacity to always lecture them on how to properly live polygamy. From chastising Christine, Meri, and Janelle for not saying “I love you” when hanging up the phone while Kody was on speaker phone, to correcting Janelle when she was saying something about Kody not being controlling and reminding Janelle to be “respectful”. Makes me want to smack her tear ducts into next week.


Temporary_Wonder_135

I agree, especially when Meri and Christine had grown up with both wives in the same house and was able to get an understanding on how polygamy works. Plus Christine’s family had been polygamous for several generations, it was her family that help start the AUB branch, she’s polygamous royalty, so if anyone would be an expert on polygamy it would be her, not Robyn who grew up in a completely separate household from the first wife, so Robyn never saw the dynamics of day to day living by wives living in the same house or next to each other.


[deleted]

Meris Dad had 5 wives, i'm not sure they all lived in the same house. I know Christines family were in a kind of duplex with seperate houses but all together if that makes sense, because she said on the show she moved into her other Moms house when Annie left. And her Grandma lived there too and her uncle and his wives and children were all living there for a time too. That sounds like a good set-up to me. I know Genielle said Christine had told her her Dads children from his second wife couldn't acknowledge him as Dad in public so that must have caused hurt in the family. Robyns family lived seperately but they must have all spent time together somehow as she seemed really close to Mindy. It's all so complicated!


Muffycola

Her mother Alice Sullivan is a second wife. She was raised polygamist as was Christine, & Meri


Ovensbeforetoasters

From what I gathered on the show, her mother lived in a completely different state than wife number 1.


TheFireWithin_21

Wife number ones family lived in Las Vegas while number 2 (Robyn’s mom) lived in St. George. She also admitted they never did anything as one large family. She said they’d sometimes have to wait a full week to celebrate Christmas because her dad was with his other family.


Deal_Winter

That’s not polygamy that’s a man living a double life 😅


TheFireWithin_21

Exactly. Tell me your mom was the side chick without telling me your mom was the side chick 😅😅


Deal_Winter

I wouldnt doubt it and bet they just were ashamed and called it polygamy


TheFireWithin_21

Alternative facts.😂😂


Otherwise-Nebula863

No truer words have ever been said!!! 😅🤣😂


Deal_Winter

They just labeled it polygamy cuz Robin didn’t want to admit her mom was the mistress 🫠


Professional-Test-62

Proabably why she is so nuts about making sure her and her kids are always the priority. Growing up never being the priority or important enough to get to celebrate holidays until after…makes you see where she got some of her issues from


Routine_Comb_4491

Could you imagine the kind of mind fuck that'd be for a child?! And to then grow up and put your kids thru something similar for your own personal gain, *ick!*


Gramba24

Same mind fuck learning your dad has a mistress, that is exactly what it sounds like to me!


TheFireWithin_21

I’m just glad that the majority of their kids are committed to breaking that cycle. However I do think that Robyn will try her damnedest to force her kids into polygamy. I don’t see any of his other children choosing that lifestyle


Routine_Comb_4491

Neither do I. But Robyn's kids are another story!!


TheFireWithin_21

Especially Solomon. Remember for his first birthday her wish for him was to find the loves of his life?


Deal_Winter

Eww when was this?!?!?


TheFireWithin_21

When they all went to st. George for a jewelry convention.


Ashamed-Arm-3217

Not to mention being a child of a polygamist family hardly makes you any kind of expert to function as a spouse in a polygamist relationship. She’s so full of bullshit.


MamasBoyFrankie

Yep, Robyn said it repeatedly! She has less of a clue about polygamy than I, and I’m a Catholic monogamist!


Nottacod

Not really. Christine and meri were raised in polygamist families where they had relationships with the other moms and kids, whereas robyn was raised in the secret second family mode. And this explains alot of her need to be front and center and controlling. Even Mindy says that her and Robyns families were nothing like the browns, so robyn charged in like a bull in a china shop and without much of a clue. She is also terrible at reading the room.


Muffycola

Sobby still has more experience than I do! And she was adamant that she wants to live plural marriage!


Nottacod

Yeah, too bad it had to be her personal competition.


Muffycola

Sobyn is in it for the Benjamins!💵💵💵💰And there she is in her million dollar mansion, with the man.


jbeltBalt

Being paid for by wife #1.


throwawaybcimhalfgay

Which does mean she knows a thing or two (even though her mom lived in a whole different state than the first wife) but she acts like she knows more than the women who have been *living it* for the last 20+ years.


Taileyk

How can you say that? They totally met coincidentally when she went to church with her niece 100's of miles away from her own home. She did not know anything about Kody, and was there for GOD....and then she all of a sudden fell right into her wet dream....fame and fortune!!! Obviously me being sarcastic.


Browsin_round

LOL


Hubbyof5

Her ex may have “courted” others but never actually married any of them.


Deb_You_Taunt

Is that the Mormon expression for cheating? :0)


Hubbyof5

No it’s the fundie term for dating but specifically for marriage. It’s super misogynistic.


katerintree

WOAH 🤯 Ok I need to get this book (from the library)


Gramba24

https://readonline88.com/book-reader/sister-wives


AnimalFarm20

Makes perfect sense... and it backfired on her spectacularly since she's so well hated now. But of course, she's also living in a 900k house.


Gramba24

Which I feel she and Kotex should be thanking Christine not criticizing her! Hell they should be paying her!


Taileyk

In the end Christine comes out as the winner though.... would happily trade in my mansion or cash to get rid of that deadbeat husband/dad.


dillytuck1980

So true. What I've noticed from rewatch is her times and years are always changing. Do we know if she really was raised in a polygamist household?


Gramba24

IDK, we have seen her parents on the show and they often traveled to her home during covid if he has other wives he sure doesn’t spend as much time with them awash catering to Snobyn or maybe they left him who knows with Snobyns stories!! Off topic but I just watched a season 1/3 episode the girls in meris living room planning Snobyn a bday party at dads request, Mykelti Reveals wearing her dads jacket and Snobyn would smell it and say “oh I miss your dad”. Isn’t that against their religion exploiting her feelings in front of wives and children! She is always trying to rub it in!! Snobyn says she don’t want to hurt no one while continuing to hurt them! Of course when Snobyn attends her party guess who hasn’t had a bday since a young child? Ugggh this woman always looking for sympathy!! I can’t stand her


dillytuck1980

Me either


HappinessSuitsYou

This is hard to read, I can’t understand what you’re saying.


Born-Investigator17

What they’re saying is the only reason Robyn is with Kody is because she found out about the show, Sister Wives. Also saying that the only reason sister wives became a show is because of Christine.


Gramba24

TLC (Tim Gibbons) found Christine she related they wanted to film a polygamist family for TLC to Kotex! Christine was a spokesperson for the church she was committed to. She would often do interviews with the media to explain their beliefs to the public when she was introduced to Tim Gibbons that was looking for a family to come out from hiding and show the world their lifestyle!! Short story regarding Snobyn she was not interested until she knew their was going to be a TV show


Deserving-Critic

Bill Hayes is the executive producer and it is under his company that they film. He is independant from TLC, but his company films most of the family reality shows for TLC. It had nothing to do with Tim Gibbons. TLC approached Bill Hayes to get Joe Darger to do a show about polygamy since Big Love was based on Joe and his wives. They introduced Bill Hayes to Christine and Kody.


Gramba24

Thanks for explaining, Christine says Tim Gibbons and calls him producer not Executive. We all know in credits you have producers executive producer senior executive LOL! I’m sure there is many


Deserving-Critic

Tim is not the one that she has recognized on IG. I won't mention his name, but the producer and head of photography and production is a friend of mine. He has been with them from the beginning. Christine has even mentioned him and posted pictures of him on IG.


Gramba24

I can only translate what she says in the book below is her words from the book and saying she was approached due to her involvement with PRINCIPLE VOICES! “By coincidence, I’d been contacted through Principle Voices by an independent producer, Tim Gibbons, who was looking to do a reality show about a polygamous family.” CHRISTINE, CHAPTER CELEBRITY


Deserving-Critic

Principle Voices is how she knew the Dargers. Tim probably was an employee of Bill Hayes.


mrslcx

I had no idea Big Love was based on the Dargers! 🤯


BellaCella56

I believe it was based on Joe Darger's dad and his wives.


mrslcx

Ooh okay. Thanks for the clarification =)


BellaCella56

Your welcome. I think I remember reading it in their book, "Love Times Three".


[deleted]

It wasn't based on them but there were bits of their lives (Joes Mom winning an award and then being outed as a polygamist) that the producers used. They also used a tonne of FLDS stuff, compounds, prarie dresses, the prophet marrying teen brides, lost boys etc.


mrslcx

Wow! Thanks! I love that show and have been thinking about watching it again soon. I’m going to dig into what parts they lifted from the Darger’s story first for sure.


[deleted]

The Dargers were a bit pissed off from what I remember from their book, that the show was sensationalising polygamy and the sexual aspects and depicting things that they said would never happen. I know they specifically said about a scene where Bill Paxton has sex with one wife in the other wifes house and how disrespectful and a no-no that would be in reality. But the point of TV is to make it more exciting and sensational really so i'm not sure why they thought a TV drama wouldn't do that. I loved the show!! Except the ending...I hated it.


Gramba24

Sounds like you, your friends from high school, AUB, first hand knowledge reliable sources and internet sleuthing knows more than Christine does and she lived it!!


Deserving-Critic

So you believe the Reader's Digest version of the book? Good for you. I am old, as in almost 70 years old, old. I went to high school with Rex's half brothers. Rex is Christine's father. Annie, Christine's mother, went to South High School in Salt Lake. She graduated the year before me. Yes insider information is better than the vanilla version spelled out in the book.


smss59

Not sure if it’s your intention or not, but your delivery is abrasive which may make people doubt your information or dismiss you entirely.


Gramba24

I’m sure there is a lot people involved but there is a beginning and she gives that to Tim Gibbons


Smooth-Owl-4180

I have no interest in reading the book and it's obnoxious to me that one even exists. More obnoxious than Kotex's hair. More obnoxious than the snarky internet sleuth here who alleges so much. I think it's funny talking over the episodes after they have aired because sometimes while watching them I scratch my head and think... Is it just me?? No. It is not just me. It's all of you and me together. But do I want to know about other polygamist families or do I want to go back and watch Big Love or do I want to know who the real family is behind some of those things? Hell no. And I certainly don't want to read the book. Polygamy is a lifestyle choice and apparently so is sitting on your butt and living vicariously through someone else's life. I Garden so I don't have to keep track of names of the executive producers of the show for goodness sakes. Gardening actually feels productive and beneficial.


phamton1150

What book are you talking about? Is it “Becoming Sister Wives”? I purchased it in 2012 or is there a new book out?


Gramba24

Same book Celebrity chapter! Finding Snobyn was not interested in the brown’s is in matrimony I believe! Maybe the first either or it’s under Snobyn


Soi1965

How can Christine take credit for the cameras? I have Not read the book.


Gramba24

I’ll add the link so you can read the book. I would explain the entire thing but we have a know it all in this thread that try’s to invalidate Christines, the families own words by his attachment to gossip being facts.. don’t want to confuse anyone or misinform anyone!! https://readonline88.com/book-reader/sister-wives Celebrity under Christine she tells how the reality show comes about while she works for Principle Voices that has exposure to the media.


Soi1965

Thank you so much.


Gramba24

Your welcome, another redditor passed it along to me a couple weeks ago.


Soi1965

Thank you. I, too, am tired of all the clickbait nonsense!


Comfortable-Leek-224

Robyn’s book?


Gramba24

LMAO, yes that book!