It seemed like, for that class, 62 was probably not so bad (and would probably be a pass on the curve, since it's such a difficult class). Bela got a FOUR.
Exactly. I wish the show was clearer on what the curve was so we could actually get a gauge for how good or bad Whitney was doing. It's like the writers haven't been in a class like that in college before? Or, is just hacking together a "this is the hard weeder class" trope / plot, but not having the accuracy of classes being curved.
I bet she did. Whitney strikes me as the type who's just stuck to what she's good at (probably soccer and whatever subjects come naturally to her- her call with her mother seemed to confirm this), so she probably doesn't understand that a 62 was decent for that class.
“trigonal planar.“ I cringed.
That’s introductory chemistry stuff! And how did she even manage to skip, intro chemistry 1, 2, and Organic chemistry 1,2?!
It’s a tv show. I know. Still annoying.
Shes def getting w/ the guy
I was more surprised that Bela got a 4 on her test. I half expected her to get a halfway decent grade as a trope, though I suppose this is much more realistic. I know she’s taking biochem for her parents, but assuming the rest of her courses aren’t a joke and given she doesn’t seem to study, a storyline may be that she’ll have to worry about flunking out…
LOL. And Good Will Hunting's proofs also weren't that difficult/genius to prove. TV shows/movies count on 99% of the audience to just not pay attention to that stuff.
This is us unfortunately seeing that generally writing that doesn't deviate too much from or challenge existing paradigms can succeed, because the writers' room still needs to answer to producers and financing that isn't as diverse and open-minded.
So, POC women that are funny, strong, and an ensemble of main characters can get a greenlight... but of course their love interests are primarily/generally white guys.
So many POC writers create stories that reflect their own lives, communities, and/or lived experience.. but then are rejected, ignored, and laughed out of pitch meetings because supposedly "there is no audience" that can relate to it. aka the industry's show-runners and gate-keepers don't like it or can't relate to it.
So no, not every writer can just project their fantasy onto their show and have that supported / made.
Huh? She wrote Four Weddings and A Funeral which starred a black woman and a brown man as the main couple I'm pretty sure, and there are multiple non-white love interests in Never Have I Ever. Both of Devi's friends *and* her cousin are all dating POC, her mom's only love interest since her dad was a black man, and Devi has dated an East Asian guy and a South Asian guy.
I agree. The show is already doing too much to lean into Mindy's own tastes, but to have almost every relationship regress and pander to the lowest denominator of white audience that needs to see characters that look like themselves centered and desirable is really unfortunate and frustrating to watch.
Yeah, I really don't get the big deal about this dude. He looks like every other boring hot guy that you might see in a gym. He LOOKS like he's from Kansas. His personality is basically nonexistent. I don't get it at all.
Maybe that was her experience at a NE college like this. A lot of white, buff frat guys that she couldn't really have (I've seen pics of Mindy in college, haha).
This is like the first semi-interesting storyline Whitney has actually gotten and so I very hope they don't ruin it with yet another contrived romance. (I'm sure that's inevitable, though.)
I appreciate that they put it out there that lesbians absolutely can get STIs. I was thinking all of those random hookups Leighton was engaging in, hoping she was using protection. Guess not lol.
There's also a way to cut condoms to make them into make-shift dental dams.
A club I belonged to in college basically had a mission of "Have sex and drink in college but don't die or get sick: here are resources. Also, not everyone does that stuff so here are some resources if you don't"
Our condoms had packaging with dotted lines to cut on for dental dams.
I see a lot of people online saying Leighton has the clap. The clap is gonorrhea, not chlamydia, but they’re both gross so I need Leighton and her roster of women to practice safe sex.
They have excellent chemistry and I'm so here for it. Mindy is really good at casting for chemistry (I believe she is usually involved in casting on her shows). I've never known one of her end game couples *not* to have chemistry out the wazoo.
Honestly, if I were Bela, I might just give bisexuality a try if there are Phoebe Bridgers concert tickets at the end of the rainbow...
I'm probably a bit biased, though, as a fellow bisexual myself 😹
YES! Also I love Bela’s casual comments like ‘I’ll go with you’, it’s reminding me of last season when she was yelling at Nico for his behavior with Kimberley and then flipped to ‘I’m Bela btw we met several times, seriously thanks for having us’ :D
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i knew leighton was going to get an STI. i don’t know what to say about kimberly lmao, i feel like this is gonna backfire for her. i’m liking whitney’s new storyline!!
Me at the beginning of the episode: Leighton is my new role model, I’m single again and I will LIVE IT UP!!!!
Me at the end: never mind
Edit: I would probably risk it for the one with the short hair and the back muscles though because omg
I'm wondering if that will be a plot point in next week's episodes. Advertisements for those kinds of things will often show the highest numbers, a price that most donors won't be able to get. You get "up to" $80,000. In addition, you have to meet some high physical and mental health requirements.
Yeah, I've definitely heard more like 5-10k, but that's probably for a single cycle, so depending on all their rules it might take quite a while to get 80k if they even WANT that many eggs from you.
I can picture Alicia returning for one episode and being like "Oh, glad that you felt ready to come out, but I'm emotionally unavailable for you now ~~because I'm starring in Grey's Anatomy, so I'm really just here for an one minute cameo~~."
I don’t. They were the weirdest couple they made no sense together. Leighton and that suburban minivan mom made more sense together than leighton and Alicia!
They made no sense together. She had more chemistry in the montage with those girls than she ever had with Alicia. Alicia was fine as a character and they should have been just friends. Now the blonde who is going to be appearing next episode, that looks right up Leighton’s alley.
I don't get how Eric isn't a short king. Does this show take place in a universe where college girls don't consider 5'8 to be short? Because no one commented on Nico's height either. It's especially strange since most of the girls are around 5'6-7.
According to Bela, the only reason why Nico isn't considered a short king is because he isn't muscular. It wasn't because she didn't consider him short. Though, I never heard the parameters for "short king" to be short and buff
very true. i’m in college, 5 6, have 5 8 friends, obviously, and i don’t think i know anyone who doesn’t consider us in the same height bracket 😭. shits funny fr
Even tall guys have height complexes. 6’2 is probably the height where there’s no insecurity about height. (Even my 6’0 brother adds an inch to his height lol)
To be honest, its definitely more of an online thing. Like, girls care in real life obviously, but the actual numbers don't matter. Not much real difference between 5'10 and 6'0
no fr. i don’t do well on tinder but i also don’t do bad with girls overall so i don’t get the fuss. my gf rn is 5 10 and it straight up hasn’t even been an issue.
in general i just think we should get less hung up about whether people view us as attractive or not and just give ourselves the shot. kinda like what kimberly should do with kansas boy 😭
All of the "short king" talk had my wife and I just dying. Honestly, this show is incredible. We only found out about it a few weeks ago and we're (fortunately?) quite obsessed.
Some real cringe-comedy moments (not unlike The Office - which legit had some super uncomfortable cringe-comedy). Every cast member (really other than Kimberly's dad, IMO, since he is just way too over the top) has been pretty fantastic, too.
alright so im I the only one that sees how differently this episode is shot from other ones? I’m not a cinematographer but the aspect ratio & camera angles feel different. also they added new intro which is kinda fire? exciting change, didn’t expect them to do something like this MID SEASON but it definitely caught my attention
The editing in this episode was really weird. It was 1 minute of character interaction, then a montage of the campus, then 1 minute of character interaction, then a montage of the campus. Over and over again.
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It seemed like, for that class, 62 was probably not so bad (and would probably be a pass on the curve, since it's such a difficult class). Bela got a FOUR.
62 is especially not-so-bad when you take into account that Whitney seems to be pretty new to the subject.
Exactly. I wish the show was clearer on what the curve was so we could actually get a gauge for how good or bad Whitney was doing. It's like the writers haven't been in a class like that in college before? Or, is just hacking together a "this is the hard weeder class" trope / plot, but not having the accuracy of classes being curved.
Right! There is a CURVE! Bela got a 4%. So if a lot of other people in the class did that poorly, then a 62 may have been REALLY good.
I like that Bela got a 4 and decided to stay. im like grl. I guess I stayed when I got an 8.
Not all classes are curved. (Source: I’m a professor lol)
I remember studying so hard and getting 30s in organic chem
I think a 30 was passing in ochem when I took it… the way the class was automatically curved.
That's why I think a 62 in this class is probably quite good. So weird that she was acting so upset. Surely she passed with a 62?
I bet she did. Whitney strikes me as the type who's just stuck to what she's good at (probably soccer and whatever subjects come naturally to her- her call with her mother seemed to confirm this), so she probably doesn't understand that a 62 was decent for that class.
Organic chem is why I did not become a veterinarian.
Especially in chemistry 😭
I like the whitney takes biochem storyline, not the guy tho
“trigonal planar.“ I cringed. That’s introductory chemistry stuff! And how did she even manage to skip, intro chemistry 1, 2, and Organic chemistry 1,2?! It’s a tv show. I know. Still annoying. Shes def getting w/ the guy
Also her electron&nucleus line was so awful to me. That's what we learned in the first ever lesson on chemistry at like 12, everyone knows that 😅
I was more surprised that Bela got a 4 on her test. I half expected her to get a halfway decent grade as a trope, though I suppose this is much more realistic. I know she’s taking biochem for her parents, but assuming the rest of her courses aren’t a joke and given she doesn’t seem to study, a storyline may be that she’ll have to worry about flunking out…
Bela goes against the tropes. She's not super academic at all.
LOL. And Good Will Hunting's proofs also weren't that difficult/genius to prove. TV shows/movies count on 99% of the audience to just not pay attention to that stuff.
Wait is that true? I need someone to write a piece about how hard math in movies is actually really easy.
According to my husband, Mean Girls also falls into this category. (Sorry I know I’m like months and months behind here)
I wrote a post about why Kimberly’s French class is also unrealistic haha
>Kimberly should not feel bad about her French, because… I went ahead and read it since we are both ponies
Omg, amazing. Hi! Did you also ride horses? XD
Yes, and the screen name is from childhood haha, but still do!!
I would love to start riding again! Do you do English or Western?
the pronunciation of trigonal sent me
i feel like that guy’s gonna be a love interest unfortunately
That’s Julia Louis Dreyfus’ son btw. Definitely thinking he’ll play a larger role
that’s her son???? i love him on tiktok kdjdhdj i didn’t know he had famous parents
He was also a side character in Love Victor, keep finding TikTok guy in shows
UNFORTUNATELY 💀
It's Mindy Kaling, Canaan never had a chance. Whitney was always going to find a bland white guy, eventually.
this is my first mindy kaling production so i find it hilarious yall keep telling me this 😂 i probably won’t watch any more of her shows.
It sucks bc she’s a great writer, but damn if she doesn’t have a type.
it absolutely feels like she just projects her own fantasies on her shows
Isn't that what most writers do though?
This is us unfortunately seeing that generally writing that doesn't deviate too much from or challenge existing paradigms can succeed, because the writers' room still needs to answer to producers and financing that isn't as diverse and open-minded. So, POC women that are funny, strong, and an ensemble of main characters can get a greenlight... but of course their love interests are primarily/generally white guys. So many POC writers create stories that reflect their own lives, communities, and/or lived experience.. but then are rejected, ignored, and laughed out of pitch meetings because supposedly "there is no audience" that can relate to it. aka the industry's show-runners and gate-keepers don't like it or can't relate to it. So no, not every writer can just project their fantasy onto their show and have that supported / made.
has a starring character ever ended up with a black man in any of her media?
Forget a black man, they’ve never ended up with a non-white person in general
Huh? She wrote Four Weddings and A Funeral which starred a black woman and a brown man as the main couple I'm pretty sure, and there are multiple non-white love interests in Never Have I Ever. Both of Devi's friends *and* her cousin are all dating POC, her mom's only love interest since her dad was a black man, and Devi has dated an East Asian guy and a South Asian guy.
HAHAH i just love canaan 😭😭
I really hope they go in another direction. I love a cocky white guy as much as the next but Whitney deserves better
I find him completely boring/generic "hot dude." Yawn.
I agree. The show is already doing too much to lean into Mindy's own tastes, but to have almost every relationship regress and pander to the lowest denominator of white audience that needs to see characters that look like themselves centered and desirable is really unfortunate and frustrating to watch.
Yeah, I really don't get the big deal about this dude. He looks like every other boring hot guy that you might see in a gym. He LOOKS like he's from Kansas. His personality is basically nonexistent. I don't get it at all.
Maybe that was her experience at a NE college like this. A lot of white, buff frat guys that she couldn't really have (I've seen pics of Mindy in college, haha).
This is like the first semi-interesting storyline Whitney has actually gotten and so I very hope they don't ruin it with yet another contrived romance. (I'm sure that's inevitable, though.)
I appreciate that they put it out there that lesbians absolutely can get STIs. I was thinking all of those random hookups Leighton was engaging in, hoping she was using protection. Guess not lol.
This is probably a dumb question, but what kind of protection is involved here for women, besides asking each other if they’ve been checked?
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There's also a way to cut condoms to make them into make-shift dental dams. A club I belonged to in college basically had a mission of "Have sex and drink in college but don't die or get sick: here are resources. Also, not everyone does that stuff so here are some resources if you don't" Our condoms had packaging with dotted lines to cut on for dental dams.
That image in my head looks weird but ok
If using sex toys like vibrators and strap-ons, condoms are and should be used if one has multiple partners.
I see a lot of people online saying Leighton has the clap. The clap is gonorrhea, not chlamydia, but they’re both gross so I need Leighton and her roster of women to practice safe sex.
the clap is definitely chlamydia where i’m from (uk)
In America, it’s gonorrhea lol. I have never known it to be chlamydia. It’s all so gross.
I am genuinely loving your downvotes because gonorrhea is the clap not chlamydia. People confuse it since chlamydia starts with a C.
Yeah, I already know I’m correct so the downvotes are just hilarious. Lol. But it’s also on the show for incorrectly calling chlamydia the clap.
It’s a nick name for a disease it’s not the clinical name. There is no police department for Nick name slang terms for disease
According to google you’re right lol.
And yet Bella clearly referred to it as the clap when suggesting telling people via emojis
And yet Bela is also wrong. I stated that it’s the show’s fault for incorrectly calling it the clap.
ya I feel like they even said "the clap" on the show
also many lesbians fail to use protection
Plus, they had her hookup with some nasty looking girls.
Love bela and Eric together! Their banter in the library was so great!
They’re stealing the episodes for me i love their scenes
Ikr. But it's a shame that they aren't getting much screentime
They have excellent chemistry and I'm so here for it. Mindy is really good at casting for chemistry (I believe she is usually involved in casting on her shows). I've never known one of her end game couples *not* to have chemistry out the wazoo.
Eric quickly became one of my favorite characters. His deadpan delivery is so, so, so good.
Anyone catch the girl (Jess?) with the Phoebe Bridgers tix give Bela a look?
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I’m honestly surprised we haven’t had Bela ask Leighton something like “alright how would you rank us (roommates) on your bangable list?”
hahahaha well you were exactly right
Glad it wasn't just me. I saw some tension between her and Lila
Honestly, if I were Bela, I might just give bisexuality a try if there are Phoebe Bridgers concert tickets at the end of the rainbow... I'm probably a bit biased, though, as a fellow bisexual myself 😹
YES! Also I love Bela’s casual comments like ‘I’ll go with you’, it’s reminding me of last season when she was yelling at Nico for his behavior with Kimberley and then flipped to ‘I’m Bela btw we met several times, seriously thanks for having us’ :D
yes!!!
Oh my god. I couldn't stop laughing at the cafe thrust scene.
https://i.redd.it/tlto3o5cwx1a1.gif In case you needed a reminder.
The cast has such good chemistry together its awesome
I can't decide if I love or hate the Shiv Roy hair on Pauline Chalamet... 🤔
I’m here for it lol; I think it suits her better than the bob that had her going w in season 1!
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THEY BASICALLY WERE HAVING SEX. I GASPED
Noooo guys, Bela and Eric's library scene! The chemistry between these two - urrrgh its endgame stuff
i knew leighton was going to get an STI. i don’t know what to say about kimberly lmao, i feel like this is gonna backfire for her. i’m liking whitney’s new storyline!!
what is gonna backfire?
cannot get over GRU BABY? and do I look like gru? in Kimberly’s con list omg😭
GRU Baby?
"Straight twink" 💀
Me at the beginning of the episode: Leighton is my new role model, I’m single again and I will LIVE IT UP!!!! Me at the end: never mind Edit: I would probably risk it for the one with the short hair and the back muscles though because omg
Love Bella and Eric's scenes together!
Who is the actor that plays the short king?
Igby Rigney, and I can't believe he was in Netflix's The Midnight Club. I did not recognise him at all.
Wait that who that was?????? Damn he looks good when he’s not dying!
Ya right???? It must've been the makeup in the show
Honestly he looked kinda good when he was dying too 😂
I thought so! Came here to find out if it was him
I want to see Bela going to a Phoebe Bridgers concert with Leighton's ex! The smirk Leighton's ex gave Bela is amazing haha
She was a good looking girl too.
$80,000 for an egg donation? That does not seem realistic at all.
I'm wondering if that will be a plot point in next week's episodes. Advertisements for those kinds of things will often show the highest numbers, a price that most donors won't be able to get. You get "up to" $80,000. In addition, you have to meet some high physical and mental health requirements.
Yeah, I've definitely heard more like 5-10k, but that's probably for a single cycle, so depending on all their rules it might take quite a while to get 80k if they even WANT that many eggs from you.
Yep, that price is per cycle. And there may be only so much they’re willing to take from any given person.
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I can picture Alicia returning for one episode and being like "Oh, glad that you felt ready to come out, but I'm emotionally unavailable for you now ~~because I'm starring in Grey's Anatomy, so I'm really just here for an one minute cameo~~."
Lol
wait what ... in grays?
Yes. She's in the new season.
I don’t. They were the weirdest couple they made no sense together. Leighton and that suburban minivan mom made more sense together than leighton and Alicia!
They made no sense together. She had more chemistry in the montage with those girls than she ever had with Alicia. Alicia was fine as a character and they should have been just friends. Now the blonde who is going to be appearing next episode, that looks right up Leighton’s alley.
Alicia was legit a great character and maybe too good of a person for Leighton still; that's my only consolation.
Wait I’m confused why did the neighbor dude and Kimberly act like they didn’t know each other when they were like just talking at a party
I was confused too!
right didn’t she already have his phone number to text him.???
Thought it was just me and I was remembering wrong that they had already talked at the party LOL
I don't get how Eric isn't a short king. Does this show take place in a universe where college girls don't consider 5'8 to be short? Because no one commented on Nico's height either. It's especially strange since most of the girls are around 5'6-7.
According to Bela, the only reason why Nico isn't considered a short king is because he isn't muscular. It wasn't because she didn't consider him short. Though, I never heard the parameters for "short king" to be short and buff
Good point, I forgot that line
It's because he's literally not short. Average US male height is about 5'9 and he's 5'8.
I didn’t say he was short, I said he was considered short. Ask the average college student, even average height is considered short.
very true. i’m in college, 5 6, have 5 8 friends, obviously, and i don’t think i know anyone who doesn’t consider us in the same height bracket 😭. shits funny fr
Even tall guys have height complexes. 6’2 is probably the height where there’s no insecurity about height. (Even my 6’0 brother adds an inch to his height lol)
it’s so absurd. like bro who cares just be honest lol if someone cares about a few inches that much there’s probably other problems there too 😭
To be honest, its definitely more of an online thing. Like, girls care in real life obviously, but the actual numbers don't matter. Not much real difference between 5'10 and 6'0
no fr. i don’t do well on tinder but i also don’t do bad with girls overall so i don’t get the fuss. my gf rn is 5 10 and it straight up hasn’t even been an issue. in general i just think we should get less hung up about whether people view us as attractive or not and just give ourselves the shot. kinda like what kimberly should do with kansas boy 😭
All of the "short king" talk had my wife and I just dying. Honestly, this show is incredible. We only found out about it a few weeks ago and we're (fortunately?) quite obsessed. Some real cringe-comedy moments (not unlike The Office - which legit had some super uncomfortable cringe-comedy). Every cast member (really other than Kimberly's dad, IMO, since he is just way too over the top) has been pretty fantastic, too.
Who knows the ending song in credits?? I can’t seem to find it anywhere, driving me crazy. Even Shazam couldn’t pick it up
Just like Christmas - Low
alright so im I the only one that sees how differently this episode is shot from other ones? I’m not a cinematographer but the aspect ratio & camera angles feel different. also they added new intro which is kinda fire? exciting change, didn’t expect them to do something like this MID SEASON but it definitely caught my attention
The aspect ratio did not change
I have been saying for years that my type of man is "straight twink" and feel very validated by the show acknowledging that this is a thing.
When will this premiere on prime?
This is on HBO Max, not Prime Video.
In some countries you can only watch the show on prime. In Germany for example
Can I be a dick and say that even though I love this show, I cannot handle so many scenes with snow on the ground and tons of leaves on the trees?
The editing in this episode was really weird. It was 1 minute of character interaction, then a montage of the campus, then 1 minute of character interaction, then a montage of the campus. Over and over again.
Lol the next Bill Nye
I’m only half way through the episode so I don’t wanna read spoilers but is everyone talking about the weird Kimberly hair clip blooper?