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LemonTsuki

Saiki x Coffee Jelly supremacy


king_nubert

Isn’t he Aro ace


WinterTechnical9590

Not canoniclly.


vvormteeth

i’m not done watching the show so maybe it changes further on, but doesn’t he pretty explicitly stage he has no romantic or sexual attraction? (nearly direct quotes: “[romance] is beyond me” and “why would i be interested in naked bodies, i see them every day”)


WinterTechnical9590

You got to keep in mind that Saiki is a tsundere and contradicts himself a lot throughout the series, I can definitely see him being asexual for sure. However aromantic is arguable since Saiki has a whole chapter where >!he is like "I prefer mystery books rather than romance" then risk himself spoilers and getting ruined from the book he is reading over a romance between 2 ugly people!< and he spends a bunch of times being interested in other people's love life even if he barley knows them >!(ie. Chiyo/Takeru, Chiyo/Kaidou, Satou/Hii)!<. Another thing to point is when Teruhashi visits we get a list of people who would not be captivated to her no matter how hard she tries, Saiki shows up with saying "knows her true nature" instead of "does not feel a romantic attraction to" or something a long those lines (which ironically enough wasn't on the list). Which I believe is why he struggles with romance, it is hard to find someone who does not hide their true nature at all, even in the >!gayru!< chapter Mokoto points out that Saiki is interested in people who "sticks to their values unwaveringly" and "people who are true to themselves" which is proven to be true >!after Teruhashi points it out Saiki finally offued!<


MelancholyHex

i feel like none of this refutes the fact that he explicitly stated 'romantic feelings elude me'. unless something directly contradicts this, hes very likely aro, since thats the definition of aromanticism- not having romantic attraction. he can still read the odd romance novel or take a detached interest in the relationships of his friends, none of this would change him being aro (especially since he usually tries to get his friends to date other people so theyll stop crushing on him). the offu is really the only thing that goes against this, and even then hes 'offued' in surprise before. like, correct me if im misremembering, but wasnt the whole "saiki likes girls who are true to themsleves!" thing just made up so teruhashi would stop changing herself and to bring the show back to normal? ​ sure, saiki is a tsundere. but its only ever meant in platonic contexts. by the end of the show he accepts his friends, but never gets into a relationship- because he is genuinely not interested. ​ i mean, you can ship whatever you want, im not trying to be a killjoy here lol. id just like to point out that the things you mentioned here arent \*necessarily\* romantic or erase his aromanticism, as an aro myself i know a lot of people assume that if you like romance stories or hug youre friends people assume youre not aro any more, and id just like to clear up that misconception :v again, no hate here- i just like to discuss saiki k a lot :p


WinterTechnical9590

I am not sure where you got the ship idea from, I honestly don't ship Saiki with anyone, he needs to be more open to his friends for me to want to ship him with anyone which the Manga robbed everyone from. Though I get what your point is and all, however my points weren't necessarily he likes romance therefore not aromantic, but rather to build up to the fact that he yearns for romance, but thanks to his powers it makes it difficult to find someone who is true to themselves. Anyways Saiki didn't 'offu' in surprise in that scene, he knew what was coming, the reason he 'offu'ed came from the fact that Teruhashi pointed out to him that she exhibits the traits he is attracted to. Mokoto didn't lie about what attracts him, she lied about their compatibility, it would make no sense if she lied about what he is attracted to then she points it out then he just 'offu'ed from it. For the tsundere part, I don't get what you are trying to say, since I never said that being tsundere have to be romantic. However I do agree that Platonic tsunderes does exists. Anyways it is fun hearing your interpretation!


Certain_Rip135

I'd argue that saiki already has a great relationship with coffee jelly


RinXcrimson

Where harem🗿?


oxg03

the coffee jelly counts as a harem from now on as well as being well.. coffee jelly


WinterTechnical9590

Personally I believe it would be either Teruhashi or Mokoto, although he loves coffee Jelly more than both of them combined, I doubt he would marry it. Chiyo is already in love with Kaidou and their relationship seems good, though I don't really understand why the creator insists that they have a 2-4% compatibility with eachother. Finally Satou, this may be an unwanted opinion, but >!honestly, I cannot see Saiki having a crush on him. Sure Saiki gets excited to see him to point of smiling, but it have always been like a child looking at their role model type way. He doesn't love Satou, he loves his normalness. When Satou seems as if he was going to change, Saiki wasn't worried about Satou, he is worried on Howe it will effect his normality. We also see no hints that Saiki cares for Satou when he made Hii and Satuo date, since it will not effect his normalness in any way. What I am trying to say is, Saiki is in love with his normalness, not Satou, if you were to take the normalness away, Saiki wouldn't care about him anymore.!<


moc_is_moc

Personally, I find SaiAi actually interesting. The problem with the ship is interpretion. I have yet to find a fic where Kusuo acts Kusuo. Marriage, neh, if he does he would probably go through the normal route of getting married to get married, you know the mindset, then Mikoto is good for that route. Though being a virgin or single is not that stigmatised in Japan, so him being single wouldn't be that inprobable, even likely.


WinterTechnical9590

That is true, honestly fanfics in general have a huge struggle with his character adding romance into the mix makes it even harder to chatacterize him properly. I also agree with what you said for the cultural aspect, it would make sense if Saiki remains single.


moc_is_moc

TLDR at the end. Ngl, I like SaiTeru, but in a way that is more platonic and involve beating thugs up, like how Kokomi can attract thugs and Kusuo can have fun beating those thugs up. My older self thought this was romantic... :v I imagined him having a monthly session with Kuusuke, Mikoto and Kokomi, going around the house to find any thugs that might be wandering around the area. I like the crackship Kusuo/God, guess that's one ship I seriously like and ship in a romantic sense. So a relationship, I can see him with Kokomi and/or Mikoto (Mikoto definitely would have no problem with a poly, Kokomi might though), but still aroace. Some people forget that being in a relationship =/= being not aroace, in fact, 44% of mariage in Japan in 2018 are sexless (the timeline happened during 2016-2017). So they can have fun together, but not necessary in a romantic sense, you know? More like blackmailling thugs sense. I gotta admit, I do enjoy romantic Kusuo, but when I read any I just feel like it is out of place, since I find him having a psychometry assualt dissuade any physical intimacy. And romance fic are just tiring, not that it is not fun, but still need a lot of energy for that. Allosexual Kusuo? Just anywhere, at the slightest? Can't see it. Sex is tedious. 22% of married women in Japan find sex troublesome. 26% of married couple in Japan reported that they had not have sex for more than a year or so in the same report. Him losing control would probably mean stabbing them with an ejaculation cutting hole through his partner body, if he were even able to reach that state, or the state of sexual arouse. Sex would be more unpleasant than not for him, and having a biological child? Hell no! The whole series repeatedly reminded us of how annoying, irritating, overwhelming and alienating psychic powers brings him. He won't ever have a biological child, since he isn't the type to push his problems onto other people, plus no matter how much he is a sadist, he still holds a lot of value on his family. He wouldn't leave his burden of being psychic on to another person, much less someone he would pay a lot of emotional effort in, if it ever exists. So adopting is the true route, well, good for the orphans then, right? TL;DR: I think Kusuo is aroace, and a sadist in the general everyday sense. Aroace =/= Not being able to have a relationship. SaiAi and SaiTeru work for me, but not romantic nor sexual. Marriage without sex or romance isn't uncommon in Eastern culture, even popular. Kusuo would probably not like having biological children.


moc_is_moc

SaiMera just doesn't fit my perception. When people say he is comfortable around Chisato, we have to note that Chisato just doesn't have a crush on Kusuo. And she is obssessed with food in general. That is the sole reason that she doesn't project her thoughts of him onto him, because her perception of him is just simply, see the surface, okay, what about food? Chisato has been the one to dissapoint me the most. That day when she came to school after getting rich with bitcoins, she acted no better than Metori. Should her experience of being poor get her to understand how to treat people better? Or does she just care about her food and money and tbf her family? That is low-key sociopathic. I can understand people like Metori, Kokomi, Kusuo, Kuusuke, I can sympathise with them, because that is what they are born with, so that is how they have always percieve things. Chisato had gone and literally the next day she continued being a 'peasants', but she is completely unsympathetic, you get me? Hiroshi is the statisical average, and the queer is like 10% of the population. People say 'normal', that is simply uncompleted. That is saying like saying queer isn't normal. Being queer IS normal. But it isn't the statistical majority. So case in stone, he is just a cis-straight guy, and that's totally okay? It is the point of his character. I never viewed any affection of Kusuo, like the 'offu's for Kokomi and his blushing with Hiroshi's normalcy as romantic, it is more like just him expressing emotion, looks over-the-top from an outsider perspective but the dude doesn't show much. I don't know how to ship an object with a person (?). But if you're talking about his favorite binge food, comfort food, then how is that a relationship anyways. However I am not here to judge. Just inexperienced about cargo ships.


oxg03

the last 2 options are more of a meme choice for those who didn't have a horse in the love race


moc_is_moc

SatouSai is actually a ship though, with like 40 fics on ao3 or something. It is SaSai in the japanese community, though they have 1 or 2 fics only. It is a moderately popular ship, around SaiMera, though no where near the level of the main ones.


moc_is_moc

The Japanese hierachy of ships goes kind of like this: SaiTeru >=ToriSai, KuboKai >KaiSai,NenSai >KuboSai, Kusukuu (incest) >KuuTori >Sai(ko)Kubo >AkeSai (Saikechi in western fandom) >MakoKuu , KaiChiyo >SaiAi, NenHai, KusuKusu (self-cest basically) >other ships with less than 5 fics. While the ao3 goes like this (I use ao3 because it has a large sample size, but it is not a true represent for the non-Japanese fandom, since wattpad and tiktok side of the fandom is very different from the ao3, and the tumblr ones): KuboKai >SaiAi, KaiSai, SaiTeru >AkeSai, ToriSai >KusuKuu(incest) >KuboSai, SatouSai, ImuTeru > MakoKuu, SaiMera, SaiHai, SaiKubo> SaiSai, NenSai, KusuMako > other insignificant ships


oxg03

hah thank you for taking the time to explain that


oxg03

I was not aware of that thank you


toastyhero

Absolutely based take, 173 also really bugged me the wrong way how they let her off the hook immediately after


moc_is_moc

I guess you meant 273, but yeah. Accented Takahashi was funny though.


oxg03

couldn't his brother take away his (and by extantion any powers that his child might have) if he was to ask that from him


moc_is_moc

Could he? Who would want a child that you would then have to drill holes through their skull to make them happy? If they are even happy? I mean maybe he would continue to seal his powers away, but from what I have seen in those last chapters, sealing it away only makes his powers harder to control at will.


heavymetaljoshua

where's kaidou


oxg03

damn knew I forgot to put someone


king_nubert

Nendo


moc_is_moc

NenSai is that one ship I read because it is incredibly well-written compared to the general ground of fics in the fandom. Same goes with Kusukuu, I mean apart from the fact that it is incest, the research done for those fics are insane, like all those anatomy researching about the human body, psychology, etc., actual effort was made. Though I can't say the same about Eastern fanfic, that part of the fandom, is sadly, just horny, wants to write incests, smut or sicky-romanc-ish fics that doesn't even try to put people in character. So basically fantasy much.


king_nubert

Nendo x Nendo


oxg03

ja raman eko yo ja raman eko yo


moc_is_moc

self-cest? I have only seen KusuKusu. NenSai I do seek out though, it is the best written ship.