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Doggo_42069

Were you making trit in viro?


Paddy-mod

yes yes, phogliston is 1/3 plasma mol per unit so as oxygen in atmosphere is of 22 moles, i employed 4 tiles surrounded by walls, and around 9 phogliston (3 phosphorus, stable plasma, acid) because 6 was too little but result was truthfully shameful


BusterTornado

Scrubbers are taking plasma out of the room which fucks the ratio up. Also because fastmos exists you want 90% oxygen 10% plasma nowadays.


Paddy-mod

well, i dont know, i employed as much plasma as i employed oxygen, and i made sure to weld the scrubbers (i used like 3 plasma moles, which seems to have been a huge misunderstandment from me)


BusterTornado

Scrubber is unwelded in the image


Paddy-mod

the the the t th dath noth truth ^(nah, ur ri, i actually fucked up, but i am not sure that wasthe reason the experiment failed, the reaction was wayy to quick for the plasma to get drained by the scrubber)


Nexofasv2

Plasma is consumed more than oxygen in the reaction.But for the reaction to happen a minimum of 96/1 oxy/plasma ratio is needed. You would need to play with the settings of air alarm.


Paddy-mod

oh god damn it, so the god damn atmosphere isnt even enough for it to trigger at all! then ill have to use oxygen smoke grenades (well in theory 100 oxygen in 15 smoke is = 108 moles {this was tested in a single tile, hopefully it increases in four if i add a bit more of smoke}}, so around 108/4=27(+22) = 49 (50 to simplify) which is way too little, so 185x1.08=200? ye around that if 185x1.1=185+18.5=203.5 then 18.5- (18.5/5 =3.7x4=14.8) THEN, 185+14.8=199.8 (200 to simplify) ​ so, 185 oxygen in 15 smok = 200 moles, No? 200/4=50+22=72 FUUCUCUCKKCKC ok, then two grenades, ill denotante them both at the same time with a 5potwat grenade that damages them enough to activate, so 400 122 per TILE 122/9=13.5 so, 13.5 plasma it will be (ye dat makes sense, 122+13.5=135.5/100=1.355x90=121.9 (122 to simplify) ) ​ then id need 14 plasma to get around 10% so, 14x3=42, 42 phogliston it will be (edit: NOT 36, that was brain fuck up) thanks for coming to my ted talk (edit: 42x4 phogliston, so 168 or so, its 4 tiles, not a single one, dummy, so ill have to use large beakers


Nexofasv2

Where does the +22 come from


Paddy-mod

atmosphere! i checked the oxygen in the station atmosphere of 4 rounds, they were 21,22,22,24, so 22 stayed because average was 22.25


Nexofasv2

One other problem, Station has N2 and O2 mixed air. So When you burn O2 with plasma , N2 grabs some heat and makes the burn temperate increase slower. Hotter the burn, more trit you get. I suggest you experimenting on incinerator with tritium production.


Paddy-mod

NOOOOEEE!! Fuck (thanks for info but fuck) (i really wouldnt mind that but its not exactly the same i was planning you see this of making tritium with chemistry is not only to show off and shame atmospheric technicians with my lack of actual atmos knowledge, but to generate a new alternative for traitor grenades that its thrice as robust as just spreading phogliston like a pussy, but considering this thing you say of n2 I only see two options 1.- Make smart foam grenade, cover place quickly with foam and make inside a 2x2 cube, then use thermitte to fastmos everything, then patch hole, employ grenades, laugh, cry 2.- increasing the numbers of the reactions so n2 isnt as bad, id have to employ several oxygen grenades, which is really easy as well as it is to explode them all with a potwat grenade.)


Turbojelly

I think you should backup and test if the mix works before adding it to grenade. Create a "burn" tile (you'll need atmo projector). Leave a lighter in it. Then throw in a beaker with 90/10 O2/plasma. This tests if you can get a trit burn from chem. If it works, then move onto grenades. Have you considered using a small amount of napalm for the initial fire to start the reaction?


Paddy-mod

i dont know how napalm could help, as far as ive seen it only works when splashed or ingested by people, it doesnt has a gas form either (i think) and maybe either can be splashed in the floor - now about the first thing, itd certainly be easier with an atmos projector but the experiment intends to take in account the posibilities and limitations of chemistry, that way one may theorically find out its most efficent employment. something that may actually be practic as well would be to do what you said but with reinforced floor and glasses and a grenade in a controlled atmosphere, preferibly in space, which is quite my favorite place to test out these experiments, but often budget and time are scarce so i have to do it in the restroom or at caps office (BTW, 90 plasma would generate like 18 moles, if amnt wrong if you dont use smoke and just splash gas chems you get 0.2 moles per unit, thats why smoke is needed)