By - sfgbot
Giants love to rally in the 9th inning with 2 outs
The Giants are the kid that procrastinates until the night before the assignment is due.
And yes, I am including myself in that.
ADHD havers unite 😎
Me too thanks
I saw the ADHD bat signal. Right there with ya
hey, that was also me throughout high school
If you’ve already planned on doing it at the last second, it isn’t procrastinating. Right? Anyone??
Two times in my life I’ve had a feeling of wanting to be anywhere and anyone but myself at that moment and one of them was doing that at 4AM in college.
Same here! Tbh i can’t think of anyone I know who DOESN’T procrastinate lol
case in point: I saw this post when it was first made and was going to respond but I put it off for half an hour lol
Another redditor: *wants to have an argument*
Me: “I’m too tired rn”
you finally respond to the argument a day later but the other redditor forgot about it/moved on
i resort to one-word responses when i check out of a disagreement
Nobody in our bullpen can get it done..
Do not let that last called strike distract you from this team’s incompetence at the plate in innings 1-8.
I can’t wait for the day robot umps come and an ex-ump greets me at Walmart
You can't have blind greeters
“Welcome to Walmart. I love you.”
Once again, WHY DO WE ONLY START SCORING IN THE 9TH INNING???
It's seriously maddening
That last strike call was bs but the offense has to wake up before two outs in the ninth
Also FLORES DIDNT FUCKING SWING.
the dodgers got a favorable k-zone in that game as well. urias got a bunch of balls called strikes wheras webb had to work for everything, it was ridiculous.
Urias also has some of the most notably shitty body language to umps too
Need to have Kap screaming in the blue’s face after that. MLB ruining this sport.
I wish Slater had turned and said “1 more year. What’s your next job?”
ball missed the strike zone by about a quarter of the ball's width, at least according to the box. There were much worse misses than that during the game.
> ball missed the strike zone by about a quarter of the ball's width
Which means it's within MLB's acceptable margin of error. People who want Kapler to scream and get himself tossed over something MLB considers a legit call--makes no sense. As you say, it wasn't even the worst call.
What do you mean get tossed out — the game was over
it's convenient how the dodgers get the call at the most pivotal times repeatedly. so, so, incredibly convenient.
imagine if we could pretend every inning was a 9th inning
So we get the losing feeling every inning instead of just at the end?
This team was flat for 8 innings, but i'm so ready to banish all these umps from baseball. Get the robots and never let them work in baseball again It's ruining this sport. And sorry, Kap has to argue right there. The game's over. Stick up for your players.
We deserved to lose this game, but not at the hand of the umpires. Again. This series has been ridiculously one sided and Slater earned the opportunity to at least carry on in a full count there
why do the umpires always blow the last call against the Dodgers?
so frustrating. Price with the big grin knowing he stole a call.
We suck, the umps suck, unfortunately the Dodgers don’t suck so it all pretty much sucks right now.
That’s the suckiest part
Austin Slater and losing game’s to shitty strike three calls, name a better combo
The umps all really seem to hate him. Maybe he goes around fucking all their wives?
Umpires hate this dude
slater needs to perform an exorcism on his bats or something
Good lord I hate the dodgers.
And, frankly, Farhan, at the moment. At the moment.
Us : we don’t need to spend money or make blockbuster trades to be good
*mookie homers, trea homers, freeman homers giants lose*
*Surprised pikachu face*
They sure were excited to win it on a blown strike call with the winning run at the plate. All those fucking smiles like they needed to pull 15.5 games ahead in this crucial game
Looks like waiting until the 9th inning to show life isn’t the best strategy.
I just don't know what to say anymore. Same problems every day. This isn't gonna cut it.
I desperately want this team to play better baseball.
*Kapler ignores you and stubbornly doubles down on his failed tactics*
Seriously. Kapler needs to go. His decision making and inability to light a fire under his team is awful.
Agree that Kap sometimes throws water on the fire, but some of that kindling was damp to start.
For the most part I have to agree. He needs to find a way to fire up his team. And also manage a bullpen.
So you’re saying you want Mercedes in LF
Loling so hard
“That’s been called a strike all game” and it’s still a shitty call on a pitch you can’t hit
If the bullpen doesn’t give up 2 runs, the game is tied in the 9th.
That’s… not how time works
(The 9th would probably have those pitchers out no matter what because kimbrel wasn’t available)
offense still disappeared for 8 innings.
You're right, 9th inning comebacks shouldn't be allowed actually.
You know what? Baseball should just be sudden death, first one to reach base wins, that makes a lot of sense.
agreed, thank you
I agree. I didn’t say it didn’t.
Wow the Giants lost by the two BS runs they shouldn’t have given up in the first place? Who saw that coming?!? Oh right, all of us.
Not optimistic for tomorrow, please have an off day Clayton. 😒
How sad is it that this generation of umpires is so bad, they have to change the entire sport for the first time in 130 years? You know if one of these guys showed up at an umpires convention, they’d be laughed out of the Ramada.
They've actually statistically never been better, but for a sport that demands perfection out of it's players, it's still not good enough.
The umpires are probably the best they've ever been. You just didn't know how bad they actually were before you could see the strike zone.
Here is the list of players I’d like to see back next year: Webb, Rodon, Doval, Slater, Estrada and maybe Bart
Slater has earned his spot imo
i love this year for slater, it's going to mean a lot for arb
You’re right, and it’s a little fortunate that many of the guys you don’t want to see are on contracts that are expiring after this year.
And it’s all young players under 30
The under-30s have been carrying the team hard lately. Too bad they are outnumbered.
i’d add González and Villar but that’s me
i understand if people are somewhat cooling on González after the Arizona series because it’s been rough as hell since then, but I’m still rooting like hell for him and when he gets on base he’s fun as hell.
I also still want to see Villar get more consistent time. He deserved that callup and he had been getting on a lot!
Plus they’re both under 30
> Here is the list of players I’d like to see
No Hjelle, Villar and LuGo? Surprising.
I said it before and I'll say it again. We do not deserve Slater.
Dodger fan here saying wtf was that call. :/
that fixes everything! :D
Another Dodger fan here. We definitely want to beat you, but not like that. You deserved a fair call. That umpire was AWFUL! 👎🏼
Sell. There is such little talent on this team it’s absurd. We can bitch and be little crybabies about the Dodgers buying a team but let’s not pretend like we wouldn’t love it if the Giants did the same thing. Maybe this team will be worth watching if they actually give enough of a damn to have star players on the roster, whether it be via prospects or trades. The inaction by the front office drives me insane while teams like the Padres and Dodgers are more than willing to load up and build contending rosters.
If there isn’t any talent on the team they won’t get anything good by selling.
They seem to have trouble with that part. And what would be the point of trading someone like Webb just to get back a couple of lottery tickets?
> The inaction by the front office drives me insane
Perhaps you don't understand how the Dodgers built their powerhouse team. First they restocked their farm, then they focused on developing that homegrown talent, and then they went shopping to fill whatever holes they had in their lineup. Please note the sequence--the homegrown talent came before the shopping trips to Stars-R-Us.
They guy largely responsible for that now works for the Giants.
The Giants' aging vets are about to be gone, and the farm has just started delivering hot prospects. The time to spend is approaching, but the team isn't quite ready for that yet. There are no miracle trades that will save the 2022 Giants, but there might be some interesting FAs in the offseason. But it will take time.
BTW, the Padres look better this year probably because of a new manager, but they didn't even make the postseason last year when all their superstars were still healthy. And the Angels and Phillies are still going nowhere despite having superstar players--just spending money doesn't bring home trophies.
That guy doesn’t like being called out on his stupid baseball takes. If you disagree with him he’s apt to call you some kind of name before blocking you. It’s kind of funny.
Is grandpa crankypants on the warpath again?
Whoever it was who described him as someone who yells at himself to get off his own lawn nailed it.
Hey, no errors!
At least we have our absolutely overpowered High A team
On the positive side, no unearned runs today after allowing 7 in the first 2 games.
Gonna leave this right here. From the Chronicle.
Slater declined to address the call, though clearly unhappy with it, and manager Gabe Kapler said, “I never make a big deal out of about umpires’ calls, I won't now. But say that goes our way - we could win that game. ... .I came in and asked some people about it and got confirmation that it was a ball.”
This just shows Kapler is soft. Stand up for your players, have some fucking passion for crying out loud. Bochy wouldn't take this shit, and that's one of the reasons why the Giants won 3 in 5 years. The players knew Bochy had their back. Kapler just seems lifeless.
> This just shows Kapler is soft
He got that stupidity out of his system in Philly, got ejected repeatedly, didn't change a damn thing, realized it was a waste of time.
Umps don't change their calls because somebody yells at them, if anything it make them give 50/50 calls to the team whose manager didn't spray spit in their face.
Little League is having trouble finding umps because of all the parents freaking out and screaming at the umps, or worse. MLB doesn't need to go down the same road.
I guess my point is it's not about screaming at the ump. It's about standing up for your team and letting them know you are behind them 100%. This may be controversial, but the team is soft because the manager is soft.
It won't change or affect the outcome of the game, but I would really like to see more life from Kapler. This "bad call, oh well, shrug" attitude is really annoying now. It's no coincidence we went on a run after Rodon spoke up, and we won't improve with displays of indifference such as this
It would change or impact the locker room though. The Giants lose or win, that's Baseball. When they show no heart at all, that's on the manager and the team is following the attitudes of the manager. This is a team, start acting like it. Stand up for each other, be angry. Don't be afraid to be kicked out from time to time. I'm not saying make a habit of it, but don't shrug off things and let the bullies bully you into submission.
You don't know that, collectively as fans we know nothing about the locker room vibe. Sometimes that does the absolute opposite. By all accounts so far Kap let's the team speak their minds and wants to foster an open channel of communication.
god, we suck
US losing is what it is. What pisses me off is that there's no fire. My one complaint about Kapler is that he doesn't show a ton of fire. Kapler should've been out of that dugout so quick after that strike 3 call and right in the umps face.
I know they lost. I know they haven't played well. But show the guys and fans at least someone cares.
Fuck the Dodgers and their bullshit bought team.
If he bothered showing up after that bogus no-pitch call ruined a K, then the subsequent HR probably doesn't happen and everything could be different
That call gave me 2021 NLDS Game 5 vibes.
Umps with bs strike 3 calls in the 9th and giants/dodgers baseball
Name a better duo. Obligatory FTD
Why does the media, the umps and the MLB love the dodgers so much? A team that has been competing for a World Series for nearly 15 years, has spent at least a billion dollars all for it to amount to 1 60 Game season World Series ring? (I agree they got screwed in 2017 but they wouldn’t have beaten the Yankees anyway.) I can’t stand the dodgers
> love the dodgers so much?
They're a big-market team with a huge TV audience, it's no different from how the Yankees are always on page one, how the Red Sox and Cubs get tons of attention.
Follow the money, it's no more complicated than that.
Shouldn’t having any actual success matter? What’s the point of winning 106 games and never winning the World Series? The only time they won was in a 60 game season
no, it doesn’t matter. They’re in LA and have a handful of stars. That’s all they need to be advertised
> Shouldn’t having any actual success matter?
Money matters, full stop. The Dodgers cable deal is worth $8.35 billion, they have the best attendance in MLB, MLB and the sporting press will always follow the money.
I’d rather have the home built roster than the bought one
Mookie, Turner and Freddie all hit bombs tonight. All of them big name pickups by the dodgers. Can someone ELI5 why the giants are never Even mentioned in any big name moves? Like ever ? It's so frustrating to see what money buys on other teams , while here we are trying to compete with players like Ruff, Estrada and Flores?
> Can someone ELI5 why the giants are never Even mentioned in any big name moves? Like ever ?
First the Dodgers rebuilt and restocked their farm. Second, they developed that homegrown talent. Third, they went shopping for stars to fill holes in their lineup.
The Giants have only started steps one and two. They also have several vets at the end of their careers. When the prospects are showing up at regular intervals is when they should open the checkbook. In the meantime, there is no star who is going to miraculously fix the 2022 Giants. Anyone who doubts that, go ask the Angels how having a couple of superstars on an otherwise weak team is working out for them. Check with the Phillies too, they went down the megabucks superstar route, and look what it did for them.
The Dodgers spend money, but they're smart about how they do it. They also have a lot more money to throw around than the Giants. The Giants put in a good bid on Harper, but he went for a slightly bigger payday. That's the way it goes.
We're mentioned in like every big move lol we're just always the bridesmaid
For the first time this season, I’m starting to agree with everyone who has said this team
Is unwatchable. Like, we honestly figure out a different way to be painfully bad nearly every game. If it’s not starting pitching, it’s our offense, defense, and relief pitching. If one of those is doing great, the rest suck. It is painful.
Please trade Rodon
They won’t really get anything good for a rental like rodon, unfortunately.
That is completely untrue. He’s been a top 10 pitcher in baseball this year
But he’s a rental. That’s the crux of it. Teams aren’t going to give up a ton for a guy they aren’t guaranteed to keep, whether or not he’s good. It’s just a fact.
Actually, think of what the dodgers gave up for both Trea turner and Scherzer. Not that much. And they even got a position player for more than one year. Just a pitcher isn’t going to get anything that good unless they can start a bidding war. <— which is possible, but I don’t know how likely.
Dodgers gave up their top two prospects..
They can afford to, their farm system is well-stocked, they have prospects to spare.
Due to the old FO letting the farm run down for years, the Giants are not in the happy position of having prospects to burn.
That’s a good point (that I forgot about), but it was for a position player with an extra year of team control and a pitcher rental. Rodon won’t fetch that much. But apparently the market is bad so maybe they could get one solid prospect out of it.
this isn't true, you're getting someone in the top 100 at least
I was just thinking about how the dodgers gave up almost nothing to get Trea and scherzer, the latter of which was a rental and a really good pitcher. Do you really think they can get someone’s good prospects for half a year of rodon? Don’t get me wrong, a top 100 would be great, I just don’t know how stingy everyone is going to be.
I guess they don’t have to sell him if they don’t get any good offers.
> do you really think they can get someone’s good prospects for half a year of rodon?
given the other pitchers on the block and their various issues? yes, i do. mahle and montas are both struggling with injuries. after that, there's basically castillo and then a bunch of question marks for buyers who need pitching. it's a seller's market.
Hmmmm ok I’m starting to change my mind a little based on that info, good points. If rodon is the best pitcher available, they could have teams willing to give up a lot more for a rental.
Probably not a huge prospect but something is better than nothing and everyone is always looking for difference making starting pitching for a playoff run.
He looks miserable here (understandably) and I think there is almost no chance he comes back
> When Carlos Rodón put an opt out into his #SFGiants contract, it was a bet on himself. But also, "I didn’t think it would be somewhere we’d want to be for an extended period of time."
> **Now settled in the East Bay, Rodón says "it'd be hard to leave."**
He's just talking about the traffic. Makes it really hard to get anywhere, let alone to the major airports.
That’s actually good to hear I hadn’t seen that. Still two things have to happen, he has to want to stay here over other options that come to him (and there will be many) and we will have to offer him a big long term deal. Not sure I see the latter happening.
It all really depends on what they could get in return I suppose.
We aren't getting any prospect worthwhile for a rental. Rodon is worth re-signing over getting a prospect who probably won't be anything.
Why would he want to re-sign here with this defense behind him?
Don't worry I doubt farhan will offer him an actual contract.
Jesus. LA should just plan the WS parade if(when) they get Soto. We're just sims in one giant Dodger fan's MLB The Show franchise mode. It's ludicrous.
A Giants loss is a visit to the dentist.
A Giants loss to the Dodgers is a root canal.
While getting a colonoscopy.
Maybe try hitting the ball productively before the 9th inning
I literally just came here to say enough is enough. Kapler should be out there losing his shit. MLB should be ashamed. I'm almost ready to say I'm done watching because the games are rigged anyways.
Kapler really seems like he doesn't give a shit
Thank you. Finally. I hope they don’t downvote you to hell.
Bring it on!
And to clarify, I'm well aware the dodgers are the better team this year. I'm not saying we deserve to win with the way we're playing. But to have at bats taken away this consistently is disgusting.
> Kapler should be out there losing his shit.
Which accomplishes nothing. Earl Weaver was ejected over a hundred times, never got an ump to change a call.
> the games are rigged anyways
Unfortunately, the 2022 Dodgers don't need games to be rigged, they have a strong team and the Giants are running on fumes.
>never got an ump to change a call.
That's not the goal. The point is to add scrutiny so that you don't get screwed every call after that *too*
It's not about changing a call. It's about calling them out every time they make a game changing error so it gets attention. Unless you're a total yes man and just like taking it as it's dished out. To each their own, I guess.
And read my comment posted immediately after. I KNOW the dodgers are a better team. That doesn't mean it's okay to adjust the outcomes even just a little.
> It's about calling them out every time they make a game changing error so it gets attention.
Please, list all the occasions on which calling them out changed anything, ever. Angel Hernandez still has a job, Joe West retired when he felt like it. MLB and the MLBUA have a binding agreement, MLB is powerless to employ discipline that is outside the terms of that contract. Nobody is getting fired or whatever so long as that contract is in effect unless they pull a knife and stab a manager. And BTW, when MLB tried replacement umps during a labor dispute forty years ago, the results were horrible, the replacement were worse.
> Unless you're a total yes man and just like taking it as it's dished out. To each their own, I guess.
If you're a conspiracy theory addict and thinks malice is more likely than incompetence, to each his own, I guess.
> That doesn't mean it's okay to adjust the outcomes even just a little.
Nobody is adjusting anything. First, that box on the screen is not the strike zone, it's just a graphic to give casual fans something to yell at. Second, that final strike was within what MLB considers an acceptable margin of error, they allow a whole ball's width more than Umpire Scorecard does. So exactly what is the manager going to freak out over, that the umpire called a strike that MLB considers legit?
As Ron Luciano once pointed out, in well over a century the umpires are the one part of MLB never touched by scandal. But if you figure you can prove games are being rigged, cool, knock yourself out. *National Enquirer* is always buying that sort of crap.
I get to say POTG is LuGo and he deserves it. Two hits off lefties and our first run. After a rough last week and losing that ball in the lights, I definitely welcome him starting to get hits. Hope he starts a hot streak!
I would say co-deserves it with Slater, too. Slater continues to be the offense.
Two under-30 players getting the POTG? How shocking.
But muh vets
Unless baseball is your one true sports love ☹️
In better news, Kyle Harrison struck out 9 in 3 innings today, can't wait to see what he becomes
Blow it up. Sell everyone.
Gabe Kapler. Farhan Zaidi? Brandon Belt!? Ahhhh, Juan Soto
i suppose there's something poetic that we keep blue balling ourselves against the bums in blue
Due, in large part, to the Blue (umpire)
I wonder…how much of Farhan and not being able to get high profile players is because the Dodgers ownership are willing to spend and the Giants aren’t?
Giants ownership has never told the FO not to go after a big-money player they wanted, they offered Harper three hundred million. Bad take.
it's easily the most overrated talking point on here
I guess it was worded kind of wonky…but that’s why I was wondering if that was the case. As Demonic said, I hope that’s not the case but I also just wonder what’s going on there.
Is it Oracle? Is it the ownership? Is it Vets/lack of vets/too old of vets? Is it money?
I just wonder, tis all
> but that’s why I was wondering if that was the case
They made a serious attempt to get Harper. They gave a hundred and twenty million to Cueto, and so on. The problem is not that they are cheap, it's that the FO doesn't think the time is right to chase big names, not when there would be no foundation under them. Look how Zaidi and Co. built this Dodgers team, the outside stars were added only after the homegrown foundation was in place.
You don't put thousand-dollar wheels and custom paint on a car that needs a new motor, the motor comes first.
>Look how Zaidi and Co. built this Dodgers team, the outside stars were added only after the homegrown foundation was in place.
The homegrown foundation was already there when Friedman took over the team. The previous regime left him alot of talent (in the majors and in the minors). Friedman took over after 2014. The Dodgers at that time were 2x defending NL West champs and had been to the NLCS in 2013. He took over a playoff team with the no. 1 farm system in mlb. This team didn't need to be built, it was already built.
**Talent on the major league roster**:
\-Dee Gordon (used in the trade to get Kike Hernandez and Austin Barnes and Andrew Heaney, who was flipped for Howie Kendrick)
**Talent in the minors (no. 1 ranked farm system)**:
\-Grant Holmes (used in a trade for Rich Hill)
\-Jose Deleon (used in a trade with Tampa Bay)
\-Zach Lee (used in a trade to get Chris Taylor)
\-Jharel Cotton (used in a trade for Rich Hill)
So yeah, Friedman and Zaidi took over a very good situation. They didn't build it from scratch.
Man, I really hope there is something else going on, because this team not being willing to spend would be depressing. I hope they prove your thought wrong, for all of our sakes.
I’ve been traveling more than usual this year, and I think the Giants have won a total of like… one game while I’m away from home (which happened to be the Joc game where I was on a flight back home).
I’m just going to stay home the rest of the season lol
Please live a less fulfilling life for the sake of the team.
For the sake of the team first, for the sake of my wallet second.
Good teams move base runners.
For crying out loud Slater deserves to be the one who gets beers and dinner covered. His hit in todays game was perfect...he laid his head down, put the barel on the target and got the ball through.
Longor...looked right at the ball and grounded into third...how can a third baseman do that? Muncy is a fat ass we all know that, but longo...awful.
Been called all game you gotta swing with 2 strikes unfortunately
That wasn't called a strike all goddamn game
Fuck the umpire
One huge timely hit in any of these 3 games and the whole narrative of this series would be completely different.
No moral victories at this point. Can't have the team waiting to score late in the game every fucking time. Bullshit call at the end but that ump was blind for both teams.
Gotta just hope they don't lose their next series against Dbacks and Cubs...
Unrelated completely but if you’re needing a laugh
(I certainly do) check out the YouTuber KitBoga, hilariously talented dude who scams scammers.
I second this recommendation, I recently came across his videos and have become addicted. His improvisational skills are incredible!
I feel like the mom in waterboy when Bobby mentions Foosball.
Member when we all believed in Farhan, I member
i still do though
> get 1 if not more reliable bullpen arms
Agreed, that's needed to get through the rest of the season without more pain than we can bear. The rest of the defense will come as Belt, Crawford and Longo depart, and some younger eyes and legs arrive from the farm. But there is no quick fix, sadly.
Is he responsible for big-league ball players forgetting how to pitch and hit?
He’s responsible for adding players who can pitch and hit to the roster
The way he did that in LA was restocking the farm, developing homegrown talent, and going shopping only when that strong homegrown foundation was in place.
If you think teams can buy success without first creating that strong foundation, go ask the Angels how having a couple of superstars with a 50/50 built/bought ratio is working out for them.
At least it wasn’t a shut out I guess
new strategy: try playing well before the last 3 innings
Or the last third of an inning.
*say the line javo!*
OH NO----WE SUCK AGAIN
Innings 1-8: straight rubbish
9th inning: best in the world
Fuck the Dodgers
Casey Schmitt has 3 RBIs, end this meme and send this man and Vaun Brown to AA already. The time has come let's get a move on.
Had an *old* carbon monoxide detector going off for the last few hours. Couldn't figure out wtf was beeping irregularly and felt like I was losing my mind. Only now did I remember the old detector in the hall closet.
Bums players and Bums fans are still more annoying though. Oh, and salty-at-the-wrong-people A's fans.
This A's ball boy is a better defender than some of our vets
Soooo…. How was the game?
They’re trying so hard, and that’s all we can really ask for as fans! Onto the next! ❤️ ✨ 🤗 🙏
I guess we're sellers. Trade Joc for best offer.
The Giants suck bro's