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TurdFerguson_____

Medical school has gotten goofy, especially in the last few years. Every year the students I see have fewer and fewer clinical skills (some of this might be covid related) but get increasingly more time dedicated to "interprofessional education" where they learn to refer to themselves as 'providers' and hear a lot of folks who could never have gotten into medical school talk about what they don't like about doctors. And then they leave the wards to go to countless workshops on 'microagressions' and things like that. I think medical school should be about learning how to be a competent doctor.


timtom2211

Are medical schools now just outright screening for students with a humiliation fetish? Honestly, you gotta hand it to them, that's brilliant.


PersonalBrowser

As a resident who graduated from a school that had recently transitioned to a very modern curriculum, I’ll say that the clinical skills taught in medical school are practiced and honed throughout the preclinical workshops, clinical years, residency, and the entirety of your career. On the other hand, medical school is really the only chance to learn things like microaggressions and other new-fangled concepts. Nobody is going to be taking courses on understanding transgender medical care or sensitively asking patients about their food insecurity when they’re an attending working in the real world for 60 hours a week. Let’s be honest too, what do patients care more about? Having doctors that understand the modern world and treat them with respect and understand the barriers in their care, or doctors that spent a few more hours during MS1 learning how to hold their stethoscope? Do I think that we can go too far with some stuff, like asking medical school applicants why patients don’t need to see a doctor? Yeah, totally. But brushing off this new stuff and saying we need to focus more on clinical skills is the same conservative nonsense perspective that resonates with “women shouldn’t be in medicine because it’s a distraction, we should go back to being an old boys club” and “wow we are teaching people to rely on X-rays and imaging, back in my day we could hear a CHF exacerbation by listening to vibrations in the bed”


Ok-Conversation-6656

The brainwashing starts early.


passstepordietryin

my med school made us do an interprofessional day with students from PA, pharm, nursing where we went over scenarios where patients were harmed due to disastrous APP management. There were MD and PA moderators. The take home message each time was "It's not the PAs fault, it's a sYsTeMs issue" Like wtf bro nah it was incompetence. Soft ass medical system where nobody is held accountable


timtom2211

And yet mysteriously, for some reason, for all these systemic issues on these teams of equals, only the physicians will be subpoenaed, for cases they're told they don't need to concerns themselves with, but are somehow legally responsible for. Schrodinger's midlevel, everybody.


r789n

I would answer that question honestly and if they reject me over that they’d honestly be doing me a favor.


WhattheDocOrdered

I genuinely hope that some of these applicants are just playing the game and saying the right things to get in, but I fear that’s not the case


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Interesting, I was about to guess that an NP somehow weasled their way into the med school interview process. Turns out the physician Dr. Bernard in the video is seemingly anti-mid levels to an extent (president of PPP and wrote a book about the rise of midlevels). Wonder if the real answer is "I would not because that's fuckin stupid" and start screening for applicants that have a backbone


AdmirableRadish6209

Is it a reverse psychology question? (Wishful thinking)


DabblingAdventurer

Current med student at Stanford who has done interviews. I will say that this is bad but it was also from several years ago and no questions like this were asked this year.


Environmental-Low294

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