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Throwawaythrobnob

It’s a construct but based on our physiology. Imagine if this was an experiment and there were many Earths: it would probably end up this way more or less each time.


EPCOpress

Disagree. There is no fundamental need to capitalism or patriarchy or class warfare.


xJV6-68XsP

Whats your reasoning to believing there is no fundamental need for those?


EPCOpress

Because we invented them. They don’t exist elsewhere in nature.


Defiant-Ad1364

Really? Every thing in nature rewards the strong and successful, from viruses to elephants. Humans are unique in that we coddle and protect the weak and sickly while integrating them into society. You see that no where else in nature.


EPCOpress

No where in nature do the strong exploit the weak for their own profit. No where in nature does profit even exist. Even predators take the weakest so the herd they hunt can get stronger. And they don’t drive their food to extinction. No where in nature do the weak aid the strong in exploiting or killing them. To be fair, no where in nature are there clothes or bbq grills or televisions either. I like these things. My point is simply that all of this is up for redesign any way (within limits of physics) we wish.


Defiant-Ad1364

There are many things in our society that could be reevaluated or changed, but the strong praying on the weak is universal in nature. There is always profit, it's just not monetary. The profit a lion gets from killing a wildebeest is s sustenance, and a healthier, stronger pride. I do understand your point though.


EPCOpress

Survival is not profit. Profit is the extra kept after cost and need is covered. Profit is the result of wage theft and price gouging. Borders are another fiction allowing a few to control many. As is organized superstition called religion just a way to manipulate and control people with their fears. We have accepted so many things as necessary that are actually imposed constructs designed to help the few control the many.


jizzbathbomb

Alan Watts has some good insight into life and the ego and conceptual knowledge. I believe we see through the same lens more or less, but Alan describes and translates it beautifully. I highly recommend checking him out on Youtube where a lot of his lectures are available.


ItsOftenSimple

There’s rules we have to follow. Things like resources, environment, conditioned circumstances, etc. You can’t take a transgender liberal in their 30s and put them in Afghanistan telling them to integrate.


EPCOpress

Not even similar to what I meant but ok.


ItsOftenSimple

I thought we were talking about human constructs. So I gave human societal construct examples. I gave a cultural construct and Culture is a dynamic construct. Then I gave a identity construct. The point I was making is you can’t change human constructs without stepping on people’s toes. Did I mix definition? :)


xJV6-68XsP

Kinda tricky. Yes humans created it but the system in the noggin ultimately had a lot of powers to make those happen... So, we cannot change the ways of society however few people want. Society forms from popular, easily understood ideas.


EPCOpress

Society was formed by the first brutes to get control. All we have done since is tweaked the parameters to make it feel more comfy. But we don’t need to keep this. We could change any or all of it, simply by choosing to.