Putin's stormtroopers try to intimidate pro-freedom protesters, but they just clap back
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Their riot shields look like stainless steel public bins in a seaside town.
Boom you nailed it
Found them strangely familiar but at the same time an “odd” choice of material for a riot shield (and by odd I mean I don’t think i have seen them in metal before…)
They look really thin, like they'd easily bend. Seems like a dumb choice for a shield of any kind.
They probably think it makes them look strong or something. Modern fascists are comically stupid/weak minded.
They're the same ones used in the Ukraine revolt some years back and as far as anyone can tell they stop just about anything short of bullets and are far cheaper than glass so no
EDIT: Modern ones are polycarbonate not glass but my point stands that old metal ones are plenty damn strong unless someone shows otherwise.
Huh, I would have thought the polycarbonate/plastic ones would be cheaper and harder to damage.
Well, I'm not saying they aren't. They likely use these shields because they already have them and they work fine, and these countries don't care to spend extra to have fancier equipment. It could also be a materials thing where the metal was easier to access in large amounts than sufficiently good plastic when these were made (maybe soviet times, I don't know). But basically these shields definitely do not bend easy and are not for looks.
I am no kind of expert and very much your average moron but I have followed the political strife in Eastern Europe and remember seeing lots of videos of these in action, and them deflecting everything except sniper bullets without being badly damaged.
Russian design, they like to use what they got and mass produce on the cheap side but still good durability, its why they still use diesel subs and use the AK design.
Stamped metal is fairly cheap. Stamped metal weapons were created in ww2 for their cheap cost and we're fairly effective.Examples being the sten and the grease gun.
They still just look like trash cans
Can't imagine they're made for looks.
Reddit uses video game logic.
Yes reddit finds limited edition skins more appealing.
And they limit vision... all-around stupid.
Russian mindset: Why spend all the time and money moulding something out of polycarb when you could literally stamp it out of sheet metal for 27 cents a pop?
It's not "Russian mentality", sheet metal protects better against bullets. Polycarbonate shields are trash for anything other than low level rioting, Western countries don't usually have issues worse than that though so they are serviceable.
Still doesn't make sense because its cheaper and better. Why spend more for less protection just because you need less protection?
Maybe its cheaper in Russia but not in the US. Either that or we have the mentality that more expensive is better
It's because here in the US we want to make everything out of oil.
I disagree. Polycarbonate is great at stopping bullets, it just can't be reused after a few bullet stops
You seem like an uninformed idiot. Russia has its authoritarian game down.
What? If somebody know about riot control it would be the Russians, if they use those shield then those shields must be Hella good in its fiction, as well as cheaper than the plastic traparent ones
Lmao it’s literally just a riot shield
Well….it’s Russia. Also, the real tough stuff is what’s BEHIND the shield
.. what kind of shield do you expect them to carry around? 90lb Rigid Tower shields? They need something light that's able to protect themselves against thrown projectiles. Literally exactly the reason they carry those specific shields.
Russia loves to brag with their high tech military innovations, but then their police and soldiers keep showing up in really cheap and outdated equipment.
These metal shields are made to stop bullets, polycarbonate shields like you see in some Western countries don't work well against bullets but they are hard to shatter against blunt objects.
So you have it the other way, the equipment here is actually far more military orientated and protective than in America for example.
It's just that America unlike Russia doesn't seriously fear an armed insurgency as realistic.
Provide a source that these are at all more bullet proof. Sounds like bullshit.
For real. Even a 9mm will go through a car door and those shields look flimsy as shit.
A 22 will go through a car door, those shields wouldn't stop shit
>It's just that America unlike Russia doesn't seriously fear an armed insurgency as realistic.
But this doesn't make any sense another 1917 revolution has no chance to happen neither in America or Russia.
Russia has historically tended towards having a military too big to properly equip. In WWI, they had 6.5 million men, but only 4.5 million rifles. Cavalry General Brusilov remarked that they were at one point struggling to hold the line because unarmed soldiers would stand back and wait for the armed ones to be shot so they could take their guns.
The Soviet Union was a lot different than the Russian Empire which still had a pretty new military industry during WWl. Before 1900 most Russian Arms were supplied from Western countries under contracts, even many domestic designs.
Issues with weapons in WWll was more a German/Axis problem.
People tend to underestimate 19th century Russian industry. Russian industrialization in that period was pretty insane, even under Nicholas I. He was a pig-headed tyrant, but he wasn't *stupid* and made efforts after that particular humiliation to bring Russia up to date. By the 1860s most small arms production was done in Russia, with supplementary orders coming from abroad.
Warships, especially battleships, were often built abroad because the Russians didn't have the specialized technology to produce the really thick armor plate used on warships.
It was insane, but it didn't grow to the needs of the entire population until the 1930s. You had a period of mass industrialization start at the end of Serfdom in the 1860s but setting up a huge manufacturing base can take a while.
It didn't meet the needs of the population, but it did generally meet the needs of the military, since a lot of the industrialization effort was specifically focused on establishing independence for the Russian military.
It's true that they had issues with the number of arms at the start of WWI, but by mid-war this was largely resolved. You know, just in time for the country to collapse into civil war.
Look up the RT video when they "capture" an US spy plane, the difference is staggering, their planes look like shit.
Did they actually captured it?
No just standard I spy you spy situation
I thought this spying shit ended after USSR collapsed?
Russian military philosophy is that their military should have a 'high' and a 'low' division. The 'high' part is the fancy stuff, the modernized T-80 tanks (although they're getting rid of those now,) the hypersonic missiles, the AN-94, etc., and so on. The 'low' is the cheap stuff, the T-72/90, the AK-74 family, the stuff made out of stamped parts and horse-glue.
The reasoning is that: First, the 'low' stuff is what they can produce in large enough numbers to cheaply equip a force big enough to cover all their borders and, second, the 'low' equipment is also designed to be produced without fancy composites, computer technology and strategically difficult-to-obtain resources, in case of a nuclear war. The 'M' model export equipment, such as we saw in the Iraq Wars, was largely this type of equipment. People mock the poor performance of the Iraqi army without realizing that this was basically a way for the Soviets/Russians to see how their shit-tier equipment would perform in a post-nuclear exchange conflict.
Stephen Zaloga details this in most of his books about the Soviet military. They're a bit dated now (mostly from the 80s,) but you can still see a lot of what he talks about in the modern Russian army.
AN-94 had a lot of issues beyond expenses that kept it from being adopted.
It was overengineered in a way that wouldn't be viable for an ordinary soldier on the battlefield.
When you have the state of the art steel rolling machines for 1945, you make flimsy steel shields.
On a lighter note, this made me think.... why is it that when white crowds clap, they always seem to go faster n faster until they are just off beat? Just an observation.
Well they are storm troopers the armor is basically useless
Yea the thumbnail looked like a bunch of trash bins to me
Their whole outfits are fashioned as legionaires.
Roman Legionaires, the shields they used were that shape, they are in formations they used and are mimicking them.
Moscow itself was fashioned as and East Rome of sorts.
I like the Braveheart method, where you lift up your kilt. Always throws them off, they never expect it
Sometimes you just gotta show the state your nuts
i would not be able to stop myself from rapping to that beat
No one man should have all that power.
The clocks tickin I'm countin down the hours.
English translation please?
Thank you, I had no idea how to put that into Google translate.
I tried, but Google just gave me a bunch of stuff in Russian.
I'm not sure what you did, but if you [copy and paste the text into Google translate](https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C&op=translate), it says "solidarity" in English.
Haha... I just double checked, my dumbass put it in backward, and given [solidarnost'!](https://translate.google.com/?sl=en&tl=ru&text=%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C!&op=translate) as anything I could decipher. I suppose the order matters!
Paste it then type "in English" at the end
Oops responded to the wrong person my b
Can’t do it on mobile :/
Press the three dots then "copy text" or just do the select text thing for when the application is frozen
Apollo app has a button for it.
Makes it really easy.
Russian translation please?
Weird how history repeats itself
It's not they won't have another communist revolution.
How are the protesters standing so close together, would they be afraid of stepping on each other’s massive balls?
Sheer force of will keeps the gargantuan metaphorical cohones within the seams of their trousers
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What even is this sentence lol
I think it's a fruit
Probably **NOT** afraid because they are made from ~~steel~~ **beskar**
Damn! I was smiling at your comment in a casino, minding my business and some guy asked for a cigarette, and he put $100 in my machine because he said he liked that I was smiling, so thanks bro!
That’s awesome! I hope you won something with it!
I lost $15 and cashed out to take something home so I had $85 left. Still stoked but yeah would've been even better if that hit for a couple thousand!
I was expecting a witty comeback type of clap back. What has the internet done to me
Stormtroopers vs Rebels. I love it.
Man I can't wait for the next Russian revolution
Well you can’t Russian to these things
It's times like this protestors need a quick release pressurized expanding foam extinguisher type thing. Spray it up to 30' covering the entire line with quick expansion and drying foam that renders their helmets and other shit useless. Even paint would do it but adhesive foam would really fuck them up.
Duct tape a bunch of foam sealer cans that'll pop when beaten.
I don't think it's a good idea to do anything like this in Russia. One small act that can even be classed as aggression could have large consequences
Yeah, doing something like that is a good one-time sick burn, but at the end of the day the state is better at war and doesn't run out of people to send with weapons, and provoking the police like that would lose fellow protesters right off the bat so it's really a bad move, unless you're planted in the crowd by the police to give them an excuse to clear the place.
You'd probably get searched even before you get to the protest, and be arrested for planning violence or sedition at the protest.
This happens in France sometimes so in Russia it must happen quite a lot.
Wow! Law enforcement decked out in metal. So cool, it matches my kitchen. I hope my country gets these soon.
That's so funny, but so possible!!!
Buddy, you're a boy, make a big noise
Playing in the street
Gonna be a big man someday
You got mud on your face, you big disgrace
Kicking your can all over the place, singing
We will, We will...
I’m glad I’m not the only one who heard this right away
You go protesters!
Waiting for the bass drop.
Reminds me of that one scene in 300.
Seems every day Russia's people get closer and closer to a coup and Im sure he knows this
A coup is something armed forces like the military do, no?
Not necessarily but most of the time a successful coup needs the backing of those who have the guns
So not Russian protesters....
A coup kind of implies it's from an established political group or comes from inside the state structure. When it's from what we could judge to be a popular uprising it's more of an insurrection and, if pushed to overthrow a system it's a revolution. Whereas a coup implies the takeover of the State structure instead of a fundamental change
I believe a coup is an armed takeover of a country or government
Jan. 6th USA. No military. Still a coup
No, just no.
A coup is when you seize control of the State forcibly. And that seems extremely unlikely. Even less so from a popular base.
When people say Putin has an 80% approval rate it's no joke. Urbanite millenials and GenZ do not make up enough of the population to be called the people by themselves. Most Russians are informed through TV, and those TV channels belong to Putin's buddies.
And Russians who lived through the 90s (so most of them) will always compare him to Yeltsin who was definitely crap
Naaah man. A coup is fantasy and a revolution, well, *seems* unlikely and even if there was a hint of an insurgency it would get mercilessly crushed
By the way, an unstable Russia is in no one's interest whatsoever.
80% approval is a joke, almost no one is going to say they don't approve for fear of retaliation. Same as in China.
It was 80% during the Annexation of Crimea, It's about 65% right now.
Putin is pretty cunning in that he effectively deflects any issues on to his subordinates which simultaneously allows him to remain very popular and weaken other political figures.
Am \* rica is far more close to take a revolution than a few people who are paid by CIA protesting for an american puppet. Russian capital building haven't been stormed yet by people wearing red caps.
This is completely funny.
The Clap Wars
We got spirit yes we do...
Is this what ja rule meant when he said, “We gone clap back” lol
This isn’t 300 calm tf down
This really is stormtroopers vs rebels.
Interesting fact. After 911, the US government told the media to use the word 'insurgent' rather than 'rebel' because Americans like rebels and they didn't want people to make Star Wars comparisons.
Cool fact, thanks lol.
It’s all fun and games until the Russian bear begins to clap
A fearless overwhelming message turn any lieutenant colonel to a toothless shark
-Residente, multi viral
i wish america had more fun protesters
We literally wore pussy hats my man.
you do make a fair point
Clapping with them.
Some ole ole is needee
If only some of them had lightsabers
I would of started singing a pirates song lol
Good for them! They need to stand up to this dictator!
We will, we will rock you...
Who else was thinking about the queens we will rock you
[Further proof RuPaul is controlling the universe.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iK1hOODuCPs)
What a totalitarian hellhole Russia is becoming. Again.
Been one since Rurik came
Honest question, what's the point of that shield drumming? They do that here in the US at protests too, I've seen it a bunch. It doesn't ever seem to intimidate the crowd, we just roll with it. Does it hype up the cops for beating or something?
Wooh fuck Putin
Half of them can't even see because of fogged up face shields. I've seen paintball masks with better anti-fogging technology.
Just waiting for Sergei to walk up in all of his 7 foot tall glory and then they wont be able to intimidate anymore.
Ok now, it's all fun and games until someone starts singing viking hyms to the beat.
Buddy, you're a boy, make a big noise
Playing in the street, gonna be a big man someday
You got mud on your face, you big disgrace
Kicking your can all over the place, singin'...
We will, after all, always be more than them. and they can't kill us all. Well.... Israel can, but nonetheless!
We will, we will rock you 👏
I can almost hear "Shield Wall!!"
“Are we blind? Deploy the garrisons!”
Captain,it seem like the protestors are rapping to the beat we are making.
we will we will rock you
I don’t know man…those were pretty scary claps
i think of this any time i see people protesting in russia. it doesn't mean anything anymore. putin funds pro democracy protestors, nazis, feminists, anti-feminists, everything. literally funding anti fascist groups, liberal rights groups, and nazis. and let everyone know he was doing it lol. there's a good chance putin funded these "pro-freedom" protestors to begin with.
You know what would be even more effective?
**Telling** his propagandists to **claim** he is funding the democracy movement so that he can delegitimize it without even having to bother with doing anything.
Just let the B-S spreaders do the work for you......
I haven't read about Putin funding anti fascists or anything like that, I've heard of him funding the National Front in France, the Texas Succession movement, the California Succession movement, and divisive rhetoric of all kinds though. Also anti vax messages both in the West and the third world.
it causes people to doubt the authenticity of actual protests (which is why my comment got downvoted, because people hate the fact that it might not be as genuine as they want to believe), because you don't know when something is organic or when it's just theater. in general it just increases confusion. the funny thing is that it's effective on its own, but it becomes differently effective if you find out the russians are doing it. it gets more interesting when you realize they do the same thing on american soil.
Controlling the narrative at every level. Which he does to a T.
If people on this sub find out why they're protesting they will say they deserve to get beaten lmao
“But my Lord, there is no such force..”
Didn’t know people were allowed to protest in Russia.
I doubt they would be clapping back if they started walking towards them though
Somebody bring put Pussy Riot!
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It’s interesting how it’s Putin’s storm troopers when police in riot gear shows up to a protest in Russia, but they’re just cops when it’s in America.
Stormtrooper? Wasnt that an elite unit of WW1 Germany?
No, dumbass. It was an armed force of the empire in the Star Wars universe
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How do you, the smirks of America, like to lie!!! What kind of freedom did these morons stand for?
Дурак или дурак?
Google translate harder westoid
Im a russian you fucking idiot
For the freedom for women with college degrees to whore themselves out on the streets to feed their children and men to drink themselves to death, God bless the freedom brought to the former USSR