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LifeIsASpin

Where do people even scale Ichigo?? I see him at Planetary, Star, Solar System, and Uni mf stay in one tier.


Collrafa

Bleach scaling is hella inconsistent. There are some top tiers in the verse that can do some crazy stuff and affect infinite in size space-time continuums, placing them at uni at least. But then when it comes to DC feats most don't get past planetary, maybe star with a little hax. I got Ichigo somewhere in between, since he was able to fight toe to toe with Yhwach (who was gonna bring the collapse of both Soul Society and the World of the Living) but I don't put him all the way up in uni since he hasn't given any other reason to. And plus, it was weird how Yhwach was about to break two separate universes but it felt more like an ability or a reaction of the nature of the Bleach verse.


LifeIsASpin

So just give Yhwach Uni Hax but Star-Multi Solar DC/AP/Durability technically making him a Smurf type character


Collrafa

That's what I think, but not everyone agrees lmao. But nothing new with that, that's just power scaling


LifeIsASpin

Mfw


Redscream667

The fucks a smurf type character?


LifeIsASpin

Smurf type characters are characters with stupidly high hax but still exist in the lower tiers, like DIO would be one of those Smurf types. So basically high hax low AP/durability


Redscream667

Huh okay. Why are they called smurfs though? Does papa smurf have genjutsu or something in the old shows?


LifeIsASpin

Mf, Smurf as in like competitive games not as in Papa Smurf.


Redscream667

Woah chill out not my fault everyone keeps making new terms to call someone hax what game did the term come from specifically.


LifeIsASpin

What I wasn't being aggressive sorry if I was though. Smurf comes from like competitive games like League or CSGO or something so yeah


Redscream667

Is there a smurf character in them also I assumed Mf was an abbreviation for motherfucker sorry.


NorthGradefrr

In bleach you need similar or greater reiatsu levels then your opponent to damage them, automatically placing Ichigo at uni.


WrittenLeviathan

Ichigo takes this pretty easily.


Correct_Project3454

Bruh the downplay in garou and the hype on ichigo is stupid, let me start this off. Ichigo is galaxy at a push. Assuming you use the scale of ichigo being able output more energy than Yamamoto and Yamamoto was said to be able to destroy the soul society. Soul society is probably galaxy sized as there is stars in the sky. And he’s probably mftl+. Garou and saitamas collided punch is galaxy+ I can link a calculation if anyone wants but it uses inverse square law and is a little complicated. Also garou is mftl+ also, but Garous ability to displace any energy coming his way is just broken, not to mention the ability to copy a persons ability’s, I think it’s close but garou takes it


Chad-I

Garou wins, garou destroyed multiple stars during his fight with saitama, is ichigo even on a planetary lvl, C'mon y'all Garou can pretty much beat everyone, perhaps except Aizen and Yhwach due to their haxs combined.


FDGodDEMON

> is ichigo even on a planetary lvl, Bro really thinking dc is all there is to scale a character. Saying the God tiers in Bleach are planetary is simply just lack of knowledge in cosmology.


Chad-I

OK enlighten me then, where in the anime or the manga that he shows a feat that's puts him there.


FDGodDEMON

The fact the dude has reiatsu high enough to not only cut Yhwach but one shot him pre plot arrow. In bleach you need to be at least equal or close enough in reiatsu to even scratch your opponent, and Ichigo not only scratch Yhwach but one shot him, Yhwach with raw reiatsu was destroying the dimensions in the verse, which aren't planetary(the most lowball you can give each dimension is multi solar, can more than debate the cosmology of the verse), not to mention he scales higher than Gremmy who was able to instantaneously create outer space.


Chad-I

Dimensions are vague in size. No one knows how big or small a Dimension is. Some Dimensions are just infinite in loop that occupies a certain space in reality, that’s why they look like infinite in size when it comes to one’s perspective. Take for example the Train station in Matrix Reloaded (if you’ve watched Matrix), Neo was trapped in the Train station and he keeps running back because the place was a loop. No One can argue that the Train station was solar system or multi solar system or even universal. So unless a Dimensions size is specifically stated is useless,


FDGodDEMON

>Dimensions are vague in size. No one knows how big or small a Dimension is. Some Dimensions are just infinite in loop that occupies a certain space in reality, that’s why they look like infinite in size when it comes to one’s perspective. We literally see that each of them have their own heavenly bodies, have their own day and night cycle, and Shunsui in cfyow compared it to planets, to explain how the verse works, ["If Soul Society could be likened to planets"](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/769627757465436190/802443621180637205/yay.PNG), take note LIKENED, and Shunsui states that Garganta would be like the void of space, but we know for a fact that each dimension has their own outer space, so they are not just planets not to mention different time space


Redwolf476

Wouldn’t he just copy his power


Ninja-Yatsu

But could he do that fast enough?


Annihilationoftime

He most definitely is fast enough


Redwolf476

Probably


TheGuyNamedAndy

He can manipulate fate and the spiritual pressure can literally kill him


Redwolf476

Yea but garou literally has power from a god


TheGuyNamedAndy

The scaling of that God?


Redwolf476

Idk man it’s god so probably enough to not die of spiritual pressure


TheGuyNamedAndy

Ichigo's feats are uni+


Redwolf476

Yea which would get copied


TheGuyNamedAndy

Ichigo uses bankai speedblitzs him and it's done. Garou as we can see in the fight against saitama he couldn't match the speed of how much saitama was growing at that moment so he loses


klixnq

Saitama was growing abnormally though, like in the centillions every microsecond, if garou was fighting someone with not as much adaption he could stand a chance


Redwolf476

I never said he would win so would you leave me alone


Successful_Duty_9890

I'm assuming this is in character so no Garou slams


TheGuyNamedAndy

Yea but he has no feats


Redwolf476

He has at least all of garou


Imrightbruh

So… solar system to multi solar system? Not that impressive


Successful_Duty_9890

Galaxy


Imrightbruh

No proof that he did anything more than redirect light. Im being generous with solar system. Study physics and light dynamics, then get back to me.


klixnq

Garou grew up to galaxy+ before he started getting left in the dust, could almost do a time/space warping technique that god shut down and saitama pulled off instead, saitama doing that ability makes him uni and god is most definitely stronger then saitama rn


Imrightbruh

How the fuck-? Garou was not galaxy+. If you knew anything about physics and light dynamics youd know there is no proof that he did anything more than redirect light. And how does that ability let saitama destroy a universe? Is time travel universal now?


TheGuyNamedAndy

The feats of garou are at least galaxy


Treso_444

Lower actually


Syncronyzer

Incorrect. Saitama and Garou's clash of the 'Serious Punch\^2' literally wiped what seems to be many stars and galaxies. And then they both got exponentially stronger. Safe to say, they are both Galaxy or Multi Galaxy.


Treso_444

It was stars not galaxy's


Syncronyzer

Even if it wasn't galaxies, the sheer force of the mere SHOCKWAVE of the blow literally made a whole line of stars go poof. It was a concentrated blast; if such power was spread out more, definitely near-galaxy level. But it is galaxies.


klixnq

Nope garou is def a bit higher then galaxy when they grew


Treso_444

Nah solar+


klixnq

Def not lmao, you prob don’t realize how far they went exponentially, they were already multi solar+ in the first part


BingoBongoTingoTongo

Ah ah ah! Only a portion. Not all. Garou didn’t accept gods power but was forcefully given a small amount of it from brushing or smacking away his hand. God said so himself and it went a little something like this just not exactly. “Even denying my power, you briefly touched my hand. From that.. you gain my power by force. “


Successful_Duty_9890

Garou copies in character. Ichigo slams out of character


SupperSplitt

Ichigo is around high uni and garou is galaxy-multi-galaxy. Garou is much faster, being around the mftl+ ranges whereas ichigo is only mftl-mftl+. I'm not sure of the extent to which garou can copy Ichigo's abilities, so I don't know if garou's copying abilities can actually cover an infinite power gap. Honestly this be wraps for ichigo if he could, since garou is faster and has far more battle iq. If not, then ichigo eventually outlasts him and one shots


Sussyeren

Ichigo is not uni 💀


Chad-I

Exactly


Sussyeren

Yep im tired of debating people on this topic man


mikeraven55

You can definitely scale him to at least uni when scaling to Yhwach who was about to destroy the realms with his reiatsu which scales to AP. Ichigo's reiatsu > Yhwach's reiatsu. ​ This is assuming the realms are universe sized.


Sussyeren

Which the realms aren't universal


mikeraven55

​ >Which the realms aren't universal That's just your opinion. WoTL represents our universe and is made from physical matter (kishi) SS is a realm that mirrors our universe and is made from spiritual matter (reishi) ​ That's two universe sized realms already. Each with their own stars, galaxies, moons, etc. I can add HM and now we got 3 realms here. ​ SS can refer to the planet or the realm depending on the context used.


Sussyeren

Well its never actually stated properly if twotl is a universe or not and nor is any celestial life shown either and HM is definitely not a universal construct . And scaling off visuals isn't consistent .


mikeraven55

> Well its never actually stated properly if twotl is a universe or not and nor is any celestial life shown either Going by that logic, they haven't shown anything other than Karakura town in Japan. That doesn't mean WoTL is just Japan and one city, they don't need to show celestial life. Ichigo is a Japanese resident, everything the WoTL is based on our irl universe. This doesn't need to be explicitly stated, you can infer it from watching/reading. When you compare it to Naruto, One Piece, Dragon Ball, and other verses; They don't use real countries or regions compared to Bleach. There is a reason why physical and spiritual matter are different, but they function the same. > HM is definitely not a universal construct Stated to be infinite > And scaling off visuals isn't consistent . Who is scaling off visuals?


Sussyeren

>Going by that logic, they haven't shown anything other than Karakura town in Japan. That doesn't mean WoTL is just Japan and one city, they don't need to show celestial life. Its constantly refered to as world so its a planet and its stated to be equal to the SS which is referred to as a sekai with no reference of bieng a universe or infinte . Even when [the universe](https://imgur.com/a/5lJoIdl) is mentioned it refers to the entirety of the cosmology and while the realms are mentioned as [worlds](https://imgur.com/a/6VLq4iC) . > Stated to be infinite Its wasn't in [this scan](https://imgur.com/a/ovB10Wg) its only stated to have an Infinite night and in [this one](https://imgur.com/a/J4UbgIm) its outright stated that the desert only covers a large portion of the land meaning it has an end and Infinity cannot be divided into bigger or smaller portions .


mikeraven55

> Its constantly refered to as world so its a planet World doesn't always mean planet; I don't know why you would think that. When I say: "In the world of Bleach, there are beings called Soul Reapers", am I referring to the planet or the verse? The actual term has plenty of meanings. > which is referred to as a sekai with no reference of bieng a universe or infinte Sekai can mean universe. They don't need to explicitly say it if they are using it to compare to our irl universe. > Even when [the universe](https://imgur.com/a/5lJoIdl) is mentioned it refers to the entirety of the cosmology and while the realms are mentioned as [worlds](https://imgur.com/a/6VLq4iC) . The universe refers to the cosmology and doesn't change the term to mean planets somehow. Those are different realms of existence, they aren't planets. The world of the living doesn't just include planet earth, it involves everything made from physical matter. There's a reason why spiritual particles are a thing. Neptune for example isn't made from spiritual particles. Even in the manga, they compared the garganta to space and the realms to planets to make it easier to understand. They were never directly called planets and Kubo even avoided doing that so people wouldn't get confused when he made the analogy to planets and space. ​ > Its wasn't in [this scan](https://imgur.com/a/ovB10Wg) its only stated to have an Infinite night and in [this one](https://imgur.com/a/J4UbgIm) its outright stated that the desert only covers a large portion of the land meaning it has an end and Infinity cannot be divided into bigger or smaller portions . The sand is endless as well as the night. If you split a single infinite realm, then you get multiple infinite spaces.


Sussyeren

> World doesn't always mean planet; I don't know why you would think that. When I say: "In the world of Bleach, there are beings called Soul Reapers", am I referring to the planet or the verse? >The actual term has plenty of meanings. [um sure lol](https://www.google.com/search?q=world+meaning&client=ms-android-xiaomi-rev1&ei=rSeQY5TkKsGeseMP3vW2yAQ&oq=world+mea&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAEYATIKCAAQkQIQRhD_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_wE6CAgAELEDEJECOg0IABCxAxACEJ8BEJECSgQIQRgBUMMEWPknYNUyaAVwAHgAgAHrAYgBnQySAQUwLjkuMZgBAKABAcgBD8ABAdoBBAgBGAg&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp#cobssid=s) also the second sentence makes no sense > Sekai can mean universe. They don't need to explicitly say it if they are using it to compare to our irl universe. [yes they do ](https://jisho.org/search/sekai) bleach is somewhat based on the Buddhism even in which sekai means world not universe > Those are different realms of existence, they aren't planets. The world of the living doesn't just include planet earth, it involves everything made from physical matter. >There's a reason why spiritual particles are a thing. Neptune for example isn't made from spiritual particles. Realms can be the size of a planet it isn't necessary , and yet there's no mention of other forms of life either >Even in the manga, they compared the garganta to space and the realms to planets to make it easier to understand. They were never directly called planets and Kubo even avoided doing that so people wouldn't get confused when he made the analogy to planets and space. Even if they aren't planets it doesn't inherit them as Bieng universes and even when Yamamoto was destroying the soul society he was only destroying the planet . > The sand is endless as well as the night. >If you split a single infinite realm, then you get multiple infinite spaces. Dude are u dumb infinte cannot be divided into smaller or bigger portions and the sand only covers a huge portion of HM directly stated there , even the other scan doesn't mention the sand bieng infinite .


Chad-I

Ichigo is not a uni stop the cap


Open-Mistake-2650

Your wanking the fuck outta garou lmao he isn’t that high


dastdineroo

Only yhwach is uni


Chad-I

Nah, him neither, isn't a universal


Treso_444

At best solar


Successful_Duty_9890

Who? Garou, no that argument is purely based on hate. Ichigo, no that argument is based off not understanding feats


Treso_444

How is he galaxy?


Successful_Duty_9890

The space hole


Treso_444

That's not quantifiable


Successful_Duty_9890

Yes it is


Treso_444

How?


Successful_Duty_9890

Counting


Treso_444

Lmao


Pixelslz2025

Ichigo wins.


Wonderful_Piccolo_44

bleach scaling is hella inconsistent, real shit tho if Garou copies Ichigo what happens? Does he get Hollow Genetics? A Fullbring? Some stupid Quincy power? Zangetsu? Literally everything? Garou probably wins tho he outhaxes and outspeeds probably


Sunniigod

Garou low diff


Imrightbruh

Nah


Sunniigod

Ya


Imrightbruh

How tho?


Correct_Project3454

Because ichigo scalers are rats, oh he destroyed hell which is stated to be infinite, Naruto uses space time ninjutsu which is stated to be manipulation of space time, ain’t uni though is he. The same goes for ichigo


Imrightbruh

I mean if he destroyed something infinite he’s uni lol


Correct_Project3454

Ah fell right for my trap, scaling ichigo at uni but you don’t know anything about bleach, hell is made of 5 layers, ichigo destroyed the smallest one which is like planetary. :)


N_K_Y

Garou's at least 4D making him low multi in AP. Ichigo from what I hear is uni+. Garou's mftl+ easily. Ichigo is slow af compared to him. Garou can copy AP and abilities almost instantly. Ichigo can't. Yeah I think Garou takes the W here.


Imrightbruh

How is Garou 4D? How is Garou mtfl+? Hes aint even close to either of those


Successful_Duty_9890

He is mftl atleast but ya no he ain't 4D


Imrightbruh

Maybe mtfl, but not mftl+


Successful_Duty_9890

I agree with that


Successful_Duty_9890

I agree with that


Impressive_Common462

Garou mtfl due for able keeping up against saitama in moon io.


Imrightbruh

Incalculable because we dont have a timeframe.


Impressive_Common462

We can calculate the constellation of light they creates you know.


Imrightbruh

Not really because of artistic license. Counting the pixels here would be like saying Spider-Man’s legs get longer when he swings. Artists stylize things


Impressive_Common462

You have to be joking because there is literally calculations based on that constellation of light maybe you just can't accept that they are mftl?


Imrightbruh

Can you show mr the calculations?


Impressive_Common462

One-Punch Man: Saitama and Garou Jump Around Io Calc Scan 2: Io Diameter: 840 px | 3643232.95 meters Scan 1: 41.2 + 22.5 + 8.5 + 20.6 + 12.0 + 7.3 + 11.4 + 26.8 + 9.4 + 7.2 + 28.2 + 25.5 + 13.9 + 11.0 + 15.3 + 49.4 + 12.8 + 42.4 + 20.1 + 18.9 + 3.5 + 20.0 + 67.7 + 58.2 + 32.3 + 26.2 + 24.2 + 18.9 + 20.5 + 22.8 + 35.5 + 20.0 + 72.1 + 92.2 + 52.2 + 104.2 + 44.7 + 71.1 + 19.2 + 34.0 + 27.7 + 12.0 + 8.2 + 72.1 + 3.6 + 15.8 + 25.6 + 24.7 + 21.9 + 27.2 + 73.0 + 47.1 + 26.5 + 136.4 + 37.7 + 20.0 + 18.6 + 6.3 + 17.5 + 14.2 + 40.8 + 8.9 + 12.2 + 8.5 + 9.4 + 58.0 + 36.0 + 30.4 + 59.2 + 26.4 + 8.5 + 18.2 + 16.0 + 43.2 + 3.2 + 17.5 + 4.0 + 19.3 + 60.4 + 4.1 + 24.2 + 3.2 + 37.5 + 18.6 + 13.0 + 14.3 + 35.4 + 75.2 + 13.6 + 19.2 + 18.2 + 7.3 + 18.4 + 6.0 + 5.8 + 15.2 + 7.9 + 6.3 + 11.3 + 18.0 + 46.5 + 38.0 + 10.3 + 60.8 + 92.8 + 68.6 + 45.3 + 14.3 + 15.1 + 33.2 + 37.4 + 5.7 + 4.5 + 35.7 + 70.2 + 35.4 + 18.6 + 19.7 + 21.1 + 39.9 + 35.9 + 23.9 + 16.5 + 29.2 + 17.8 + 45.2 + 10.8 + 16.4 + 22.2 + 12.0 + 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+ 45.4 + 158.5 + 60.3 + 38.9 + 79.1 + 80.8 + 45.8 + 34.0 + 75.2 + 60.8 + 58.7 + 64.0 + 64.1 + 60.3 + 65.0 + 25.3 Total Pixels: 27721.7 x 2 = 55443.4 px | 240468121.11908 meters Results Low End (Garou-Platinum Sperm sequence timeframe): 240468121.11908/0.0013 = 617.01178 c / MFTL Mid End (Shockwaves seem frozen timeframe): 240468121.11908/0.00000291545 = 275125.731c / MFTL+ High End ("Shockwaves" are light, as they were called light structures in 155): 240468121.11908/0.0000000000433633324 = 18497547800c / MFTL+


Imrightbruh

Youre seriously using pixels? Just completely ignoring what I said about artistic license? Do spider mans legs get longer canonically because when he swings they look longer? Obviously not. This is because of artistic license. We have no confirmed timeframe and therefore this feat is incalculable.


TheDemandinPath

Garou specifically stated to Saitama that they’re attacking in the three dimensions. He’s not 4D


Sussyeren

Both aren't 4D and yes garou has the speed advantage


PerformanceAny1240

Ichigo smacks


Magictyper75

Ok this is actually hard depends where you scale saitama which is galaxy level however I don’t know where ichigo scales


Imrightbruh

Saitama aint destroy no galaxies


Magictyper75

Thiers other stuff he did like speed wise that got him to that but that’s it nothing else bros kinda weak


Imrightbruh

Huh. Could you elaborate it sounds interesting


Magictyper75

It was in the manga or something he like travels back in time or something I thinks that what he did


Imrightbruh

That was an ability tho not speed


Magictyper75

Well I went off what people say usually in goku vs saitama debates and most of them goku won


lolox159

He is literally talking without knowing anything. Saitama destroyed galaxies that were lights years in distance, with a clash against garou. The aftermath of a clash to be exact, destroyed the IO moon with just a tableflip, and destroyed half of Jupiter with a sneeze. He also propulsates himself from near the sun to earth with a fart. Saitama power is that he outscales his opponent becoming stronger until infinite. Beating in the end, a being inbued with God power. Yes, One-punch man scale has increased to galaxy levels in these 10 last chapters , even multiverse character are being presented for future arcs.


Imrightbruh

There have been no multiversal characters in one punch man. There is no proof that he destroyed any galaxies. Everything else here gets him to large planet level


meggamatty64

You literally see the gap where the starts used to be


Imrightbruh

Stars. Not galaxies. Stars. And that was with a serious punch squared. Thats not his own power.


Chad-I

Yes, he didn't.


Imrightbruh

So how is he galaxy level lol


Chad-I

I don't if you saw it or not, but saitama made a huge void with one punch, which could be a galaxy.


Imrightbruh

That’s multi solar system level at best, but that’s being generous. Due to how light dynamics function he most likely just redirected the light.


Chad-I

The shit is so far away, I don't know if it's true or not but someone on internet with decend calculations said it about 16,308 light-years away, So it could be small from here, but it could actually be a galaxy


Imrightbruh

You just proved my point actually. The position we see those stars in? That’s where they were 16,308 years ago. They are now in a different position. He most likely redirected the light and we cannot see the stars in that area anyways, so you can’t prove that they were destroyed.


lolox159

Maybe we could say that he destroyed them because a multiversal character in the manga said that hme destroyed them?? Only maybe because it has been stated in the manga??


Imrightbruh

When was it stated


Todd220

Galaxies can be seen in naked eye in space, but due to distance, they look like stars. If we are gonna assume he destroy everthing in that void, its not unlikelly there was a galaxy or two in the mix.


Imrightbruh

We cannot assume that he destroyed everything or even anything at all. Those constellations, due to the distance, are not the actual position of the stars/galaxies. Thats just light. It takes the light thousands of years to reach us, so we see the position of those stars where they were thousands of years ago. The stars that are actually in that area arent visible to us. If we couldnt see them in the first place, we cant determine that they were destroyed.


Todd220

I agree we cant assume nothing, probably Murata will redraw that part to explain better what happen. That scene was incredibly ambiguous I Just say if someone assume he destroy everthing in that void, it can be considered a galaxy feat instead of multi solar. (remenber that mangas and ficcion in general do not folow real life physics especially when it comes to space)


Chad-I

He's at his best on a mountain lvl


Open-Mistake-2650

He isn’t galaxy he is star level max


No_Meringue1801

What is garous speed?


Sussyeren

Mftl+


Sussyeren

Debatable garou has the speed advantage and pretty much most of the states but he can get outhaxed


Luffy_53

Idk


Anubis1eight

Cosmic Garou.


Neat-Contract4300

Ichigo takes this with 0 difficulty. Ichgio can easily be gotten up to low-multi, and even low complex multi, though I do have to say myself that thats a very huge wank, but its still do-able. Cosmic Garou is at best multi solar-system( I've even seen somehow people debunk him to planetery lmao). Garous "copying" powers wont do anything considering the fact he has to see ichigo in the first place. Even getting rid of feats, Ichigo can greatly outhax Garou(and saitama). So the final thing is that Ichigo massively outscales and outhaxes the fodder.


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Cosmic garou copy ichigo and kills him


LightningBoy648

Ichigoat wins because I say so