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When you put money and economy over culture and beauty

When you put money and economy over culture and beauty

FirstPhrase1195

Why is there a giant water bottle.


Blackpanther786110

Hydrohomie moment


Ravenval0

That is really fucking ugly


wwwdotzzdotcom

Only to you


TimberPlayer

But you gotta admit it looks fucking ugly though


wwwdotzzdotcom

The only thing ugly in the first image is the yellow building.


Sovietmustache

Gotta give it to authright , they’re really the only ones that can really pull off beautiful architecture


My_Cringy_Video

What if money and economy is my culture and beauty?


Libertarian4All

Then you make a tasteful building that fits the aesthetic. And then plate it with gold and platinum to dunk on all the haters. Not build some big, shitty eyesore that ruins your property value.


773202LUNAA

Take away the gold and platinum and you basically have buildings like marina City.


omah_a

Houston


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lurks-a-lot

Based and Art-Deco pilled.


LoneLibRight

None of those links work


FutureFivePl

You get the big American cities


NewKerbalEmpire

Nobody say it. Seriously. No one say it.


SealCyborg5

Israeli Architecture


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EmoEnte

Urban planning is one of the most underrated and powerful forms of government


Monochromatic_Kuma

Until they start zoning, withholding building licenses and causing artificial house shortages that makes difficult to afford a house to young people.


Clemenx00

Yeah when cities start acting like a giant HOA you've done fucked up. I'd rather have the freedom of making ugly buildings.


avgazn247

Not in my backyard are plebs going to live


sweatycouch

I want the opposite lmao, keep the natural landscape natural, fuck the city up tho


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grahamdanoob

Though it does have other urban planning tools at its disposal.


ISimpForChinggisKhan

Keep everything as neat as possible.


drktrooper15

Brutalist architecture sucks This post made by the Neo Classical and Gothic gang


SealCyborg5

Goth GF? No, I'd rather have Goth church


drktrooper15

Based and flying buttresses pilled


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redTanto

Everything just seems normal too me. Maybe I have seen too many things.


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ARandomPerson380

You just watched Dubai is a parody of the 21st century didn’t you


NotEvenALittleBiased

Haha, you just think they built the brutalist style because it's cheep.


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Diethkart

Some degenerates think brutalism looks good.


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CriscoFrog

Brutalist cities look fuckin sick as ruins, and all cities will be ruins eventually, so really brutality is just planning ahead.


Libertarian4All

Hey, brutality worked for Mortal Kombat and Doom...


_Piotr_

I am one of those degenerates


getass

Face the wall the only people worse than you are the unflaired.


_Piotr_

Who would have thought that my worst sin would be liking the blocky buildings


getass

Everyone.


_Piotr_

Fair enough


NotEvenALittleBiased

The second. It's the whole "cog in the machine" effect the soviets wanted they citizens to feel like.


Clemenx00

While modern architecture mostly sucks I'm not a fan of European cities forcing themselves to stay in the 18th century forever either. I think modern archituctre can be great but we need a city/country to be bold and innovative. Fucking emirate states that just built skyscrapers in the desert just because have ruined our perceptions of buildings. I think Taipei 101 or some other West Taiwan buildings are beautiful.


Morketidenkommer

You don't need to build in the exact same style as the old buildings, either. Just don't have a 19th century castle made of stone next to a box of fucking glass, it looks horrible.


More-Confusion-8965

Modern architecture is a prefect mirror of our current state of culture, society and civilization at large, it's dead


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Gwynnbleid34

Rather have a beautiful house than an ugly house. Let's not pretend that building with a sense of beauty is a difficult thing to do. During some architectural movements of especially the later 60's up to the 90's, building ugly and purely utilitarian was literally done deliberately. And skyscrapers are a waste of money and resources (plus a cultural travesty if they start overshadowing older architecture). Building low is more efficient, despite what we might think.


A_Smile_Is_A_Smile

Can you explain why building low is more efficient?


Gwynnbleid34

It's very expensive and time consuming to build skyscrapers. Unless there is scarcity of available plots, it makes no financial sense to build skyscrapers (other than it being a prestige project). If a lot of living/office space is needed, several story apartment/office buildings are much more logical to build. Cost per living/office space is much lower, while amount of living space is marginally lower or in certain cases even higher. For example, the foundation of the Burj Khalifa takes up so much ground space that placing several 6 or so story apartment buildings on its plot could double the amount of living space there, plus still have room for gardens inbetween said buildings. And of course for considerably less money and less build time. Buildings like that are purely prestige projects. They are architectural dick measuring contests, in a way. I'm not against skyscrapers or anything, since not everything has to be as efficient as possible. There should always be space for architectural freedom to build skyscrapers, imo. But we're doing it wrong when we start placing skyscrapers right in the middle of historic cities, and don't even make those skyscrapers architecturally interesting to boot (i.e. that rectangular *thing* in the post).


Bothersome_Inductor

no need for elevators extra tall cranes and highly pressurised water.


left_shoulder_demon

Also, people decorate their houses when they can.


Comet_Hero

Is Trump lib right? He's big on skyscrapers.


MrAsianPie

I agree it’s an eyesore, but I would say you could get away with placing a building like that skyscraper in Chicago or New York.


SealCyborg5

Yeah, because the entirety of Chicago and NYC are eyesores. Adding more shit to a pile of shit doesn't make it look worse


apotheotix

Based


Libertarian4All

Based and architecture pilled.


EconGuy82

Manmade structures are so much more beautiful than nature. Nature is pure trash.


BriefDeep14

Where’s the second pic with the tall tower from? City looks cool


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Herecomescudder

Yeah it’s the Montparnasse Tower, everyone hates it


Ill-do-it-again-too

TBF, I think prioritizing efficiency over beauty is a fairly Soviet thing to do. Not sure if I’d call it “Soviet culture” but it certainly exemplifies their beliefs


Gauntplane58

Russia had no culture before the revolution.


tylerkade

Dangerously based


_Piotr_

Brutalist architecture can be very cool tho


KIPYIS

Na it’s cringe. It’s a style based on being rebels from the architectural style at the time. It’s not even that cheap and efficient in most cases which you’d think was what they’re going for.


_Piotr_

Almost every new art form/style tries to break from what came before, what's the problems of that? As for being cheap and efficient you have to look at each case, personally I like how it looks


KIPYIS

It didn’t try to progress art/styles. It was basically a big middle finger to art as a whole. It was rebelling against all the church-like architecture and basically said “Fuck you I’m building a big rectangle.” At that point, there was no “architecture” involved.


_Piotr_

Man, that's just misrepresenting it, just a quick Google Images search and you see how wrong you are, it's a lot more than that, it might be brute, oppressive and cold sometimes but in many cases there is a lot of creativity involved, the term is broad enough that there is a lot you can do within the style, so much so it's survives to this day. Saying it's a middle finger to art and that there is no architecture involved is also absurd, the intention was to be utilitary but that's also true to the whole modernist movement which brutalism is a part of, you can argue that it took it to the extreme, but there was still an attempt to represent the "dream" of the socialist utopia that they tried to sell, it failed miserably , but there was an attempt. It reflected a mindset during an important part of the world history that affects us to this day. The fact that these structures were able to evoke a sentiment in the general public already says something, even if that sentiment is negative. People usually call any bland old concrete building in Russia brutalism, but that's not always true, modernism is a broad movement.


LilbigJLit

At least having shelter is better than homelessness.


HelpfulTear

In exchange for higher suicide rates because outside looks nasty.


LilbigJLit

Maybe the community service should be painting the homes.


doskor1997

Paris literally put a black fucking dildo in the middle of their fucking city. FFS can we please bring ornamental architecture back? Not just weird shapes made out of glass, steel and concrete.


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Gwynnbleid34

"Capitalism is when you pay money, the more money you pay, the capitalismer it is"


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Gwynnbleid34

"Capitalism is wealth, the more wealth, the capitalismer it is" Seriously though, please acquaint yourself with what capitalism is instead of attributing wildly different historic economies to capitalism just because they had some measure of private wealth.


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nicepersoniam

While the great buildings from Greece and Rome were done by the state in order to please and unite their citizens, being the most classic example the coliseum


No_Chill011

Thank god for capitalism. Humans were literally living in mud huts before capitalism was invented by America.


mcpw

Group defense is weird when the issue is factions within that group. For example religious artwork and Popebux™ were a massive driving force in the era. At the same time the religious fanaticism led to the bonfire of the vanities which was a major loss of priceless masterworks and ended the Florentine Renaissance.


Teliporter334

Money and economy matter more than culture, which is outdated and soon to be destroyed by globalization, because they provide a tangible benefit to the individual.


Rig_B

Uhmmm... Yes, the more building you have the more you give to the collective


some_duderino

koenigsburg good kaliningrad bad


ouncezz

Beauty only matters when it's not your skin in the game. Also, Paris, known for being libright.


cyberbeastswordwolfe

Auteft architecture is so bland and ugly


Mickey101010

This is probably the one thing I am most insistent about, brutalism is a plague on humanity, it’s literally depression condensced into a block of concrete, the world shoul look like an elegance piece of beauty not like something you would see in the ussr


Arturino_Burachelini

I put FUCK YOU over culture and beauty. Money is my culture and beauty!


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Slavic303

Our architecture has a nice aesthetic tho


Webic

Perfect architecture is a small house on large acerage.


LilMafs

Both. Both are fine.


theletterQfivetimes

Seems like the only way to get beautiful buildings is for the rich and powerful to commission them without expecting to make a profit


grahamdanoob

Where is the bottom one?


grahamdanoob

I wonder how comparable commie blocks are to American suburbia. One major similarity is how similar buildings in each look.


sauce_hammer

Building vertically as opposed to horizontally conserves nature.


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the former is obviously the bigger eye sore


ARandomPerson380

Ngl I don’t really care. I’d rather not limit people’s rights for aesthetic purposes.


BranTheLewd

It's still better than AuthRight: Ah yes, *expensive housing* Or LibRight: Ah yes, *no housing or woke housing* Yeah I'll stick with AuthLeft/LibRight unity on this issue.


TechnologyNo917

I never understood what's so great about culture and "beauty". Something being culture doesn't automatically make it good and often it's just totally dumb. Beauty I can understand to an extent, but I don't care enough to prioritize it.