By - TerenceC777
Just pulled Sonia and Tsareena. Just asking if there is any online resources that evaluates the character's meta viability and discuss their best supports/comps. If not, can someone please provide me with that information.
We have a tier list [here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCa0gwUy0iYdOSKR_UuileID_J6xQytZl4c2teTwxhU/edit#gid=1586943792) which gives a good idea about the meta of the game.
As for best team comps, don't think we have a document for that, so I'll provide the info. Assuming you have her at 1/5, her grid really offers nothing. So, based on her base kit, her best teammates would be someone with MGA (like Sycamore, who can also buff her Speed and Special Defense) and a Physical support (because she can't get to +6 Attack without one).
For longer battles, you can substitute one of these units with a healer. EVen better if the healer can also fulfill the role of the unit you substituted it with
Do you reckon xerneas and Sycamore are the best MGA, or just recommending them cause they are FTP?
Because they're F2P. Of course, if the opponents are Special attackers, Sycamore would be the best as he also gives Sp. Def buffs on sync. Otherwise, you can use someone like SSB, Sonia etc, who provide Defense buffs and MGA
Also, there's no "best" MGA unit, as the rate at which they accelerate the gauge is the same😅Being better comes from the fact that what more they can contribute other than MGA
pomatools is a great general damage sim for figuring out what your best outcome could look like (don't treat any damage sim as gospel but they can be great for figuring out what a good course of action is). For Shiny Tsareena, her sync move nodes are Solar Flare (so you'll want someone who can set Sun) and Haymaker (which she can get to +4 attack on her own), and her sync move is physical so anyone with Leer, Screech, etc would help boost her damage, and since she can't give herself Super Effective+, anyone who can give that to her would also be a great asset IF you have them (A!Raihan and Redlax are currently the only two that can give the effect to others). Just about any tank that can buff her Attack would help out since she also has Defense Crush 9 in her grid so Razor Leaf becomes an AoE debuff, so as long as you can get her to +6/+3 in Sun before she syncs, she'll be doing about as much damage as she can put out in a reasonable time frame.
From there it's just a matter of plug-and-play. A pair is only as good as the team that goes with them and that's entirely on you. Just keep in mind what resources you have and then check to see if you don't have substitutes that take up far less, like if you already have Brendan at 5/5 but you only have Tsareena at 1/5 and no candies/gems to get more, there's no point in spending the power-ups on Tsareena when Brendan has access to all of his sync move nodes.
At what point do you decide whether or not to reroll? Did my first 2 11 pulls on the 72 hour banner and got a piers but thats about all that was higher tier
Try to get two of these three: SS Red, SS Blue, SS Leaf. If you can't get two of them after longer than you care for, settle for SS Red or SS Blue and pick up the other in Victory Road.
You can stop whenever you're satisfied, but recommended is always going for as much as you can get, mainly the featured pairs. Getting a Blue and/or Red would be your ideal scenario there.
But would I reroll after the initial 2 or do I get to x point in the game/gem earning before I restart
You basically get to a point after which you can stop. Usually, it's recommended to reroll till you get atleast 1 copy of SS Blue. So, once you do, you can stop
Between SS Morty & Ho-oh and Spring Lily & Poltergeist (both at 2/5), who would benefit most from being candied?
Probably LillieTea, since her best nodes are at 3/5.
Hey guys, just wondering what's the meta on the daycare pokemon? It's hard for me to tell what's good and what's not or if the entire system is just garbage.
Also if there are good pokemon to have how do I get the candy to upgrade their 1/5?
Use the candies on Strikers and favorites
[Full eggmon guide (not mine)](https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1kxM8KgAZjJzony2dkXxzswToB8jaZtVGoAP4WAmAN6M/mobilebasic)
Is ss leaf worth candy to 2:5 without other candy? Mostly for poison mode for MM
Nope, she doesn't gain anything noteworthy for Toxic stalling, even at 3/5. The Potion MP3 is what might matter, and it's conveniently available at 1/5.
Potent toxin 2: increases the damage an opponent takes from being poisoned, or badly poisoned
Indeed, but the math was done on that one and the conclusion was: it's actually a trap talent. It sounds good, but it's an insignificant increase in damage.
I have a question to SS Morty. Which sync pairs do have the best synergy with him? I am also not sure if I should get him as I only have Anny N as Fire dmg dealer. Is Morty useful also for "offtype" units that don't benefit from its Sun Day?
I would say Anni N is the only one where SS Morty is a straight upgrade over his usual team comps. Morty will allow him to max his offensive buffs before the first sync + supplies sun, something the other sun setters can't do. It also helps that Morty is quite tanky, even if it doesn't really matter that much to Anni N & Ghetsis due to their attack debuffs.
For everyone else Morty is pretty much a luxury acquisition as a replacement for Blaine / SS Erika / etc.
He can of course work as a tanky support in non-sun teams, but I would vastly prefer other Sync Pairs for that role.
All that said, if gems are no concern I would go for it, if they are I would at least wait for the June Datamine before pulling (Morty stays that long). He's definitely really nice to have, but not a must-have by any means.
Thanks a lot u/Blubbstrahl! I think this was already your 5th answer on one of my questions. Always a pleasure to read all the details :) thanks!
Anyone that needs sun benefits from having him. I'm using him to off-type with my OGLeon+SSElesa.
He's still an incredible tank/healer, so you can toss him on any team that doesn't another weather that sun would overwrite.
Who should I use a support candy on?
Classic Red 1/5
SC Jasmine 2/5
Halloween Caitlin 2/5
NY Lillie 1/5
I think SC Jasmine is the one that in dire need of upgrading.
At 2/5 she's quite underwhelming compared to other limited supports; however at 3/5 after she unlocks Steel Yourselves! All Ramped Up 1, she becomes one of the best hyper offense support for all special strikers. In addition Absorb Move Gauge Refresh 9 let her have better gauge management if needed, and Flash Cannon On a Roll 9 / Absorb Mind Games 4 reliably drop Spdef, which is still a rare value in this game.
Imo, Caitlin benefits the most by getting Healthy Healing and First Aid. Helps a lot because she doesn't have Potions.
Hi, does anyone have experience in using their google opinions rewards to purchase gems? It works for me in other games but pokemonmastersex shows i have $0 balance in my opinions rewards when i have $4 saved up
What is the reset button for in potential level up tab anyway? I've been clicking em non stop and nothing happened
It resets powerups you gave to the character but didn't save yet.
You can't get powerups back if you already "used them".
How can I even get the 5 star move candy(yellow one) or even the coins for it? Cuz all the events have only role move candy coins(ex. Striker,support) and are these candies even usable? Like every char I have requires only the yellow one
The golden move coins are the most rare reward in the game, takes roughly one year+ to assemble a golden move candy. What probably confuses you is the fact that the *Unlock Potential* - interface suggests you to use a golden move candy even if you don't have one. If you had a matching move candy (green for tech, blue for support or red for strker) it would show you the option to use that one instead.
It looks like a yellow candy 'cause you don't have a specific one yet. They are perfectly usable.
You get yellow coins from BP rewards btw.
I have SS Morty and Shiny Ho-Oh at 2/5, and can use a candy to get them to 3/5. I want to use him as a general support, especially for units that can already max their offenses (like Serena and Zygarde). I may not necessarily exclusively use him for sun. Is the upgrade worth it?
At 3/5 he gets Sunbathe, Adrenaline, Potion MPR and Master Healer, the tile for +1 to stats on sync, and the tiles to up Def/SpDef on Sunny Day. So I would say it depends. Adrenaline will help with quad queuing and the rest of the tiles help with longevity. I would say use him at 2/5 for a bit and see if you are missing some of the functionality mentioned above to really complete him.
Personally, 3/5 seems like a bit overkill with the exception of certain niche comps where they just need +2 Attack/SpA as he already heals a lot, tanks like a monster, and buffs defenses.
5* Tech Candy
- SC Diantha 1/5 to 2/5
- SS Cyrus 1/5 to 2/5
- A! Raihan 2/5 to 3/5
Who's your pick?
I'd say 3/5 A. Raihan. He gets both Interference Sync and Weather Sync Up at 3/5. Also, considering you have Lucas who sets up Dragon Zone, Raihan's nuke is bonkers.
Both SC Diantha and SS Cyrus just get MGRs at 2/5, and gauge issues can be mitigated with Speed buffs and MGA. So, wouldn't advise candying them
Also have Lucas 1/5 but don't use him all that much.
Should I give my striker candy to SS red or SC emmet? Both are 1/5
Emmet doesn’t get much from his grid; especially not at 2/5. He’s already very strong at just 1/5 since he’s not riding tide as a base passive
I’d just hold it for now, since Red wants 3/5 EX ideally.
Probably Emmet bc bug is a rarer type. I think Red would be overall stronger if you dont have SC Ingo but fire is not a high demand type. Especially with EX Silver this month.
Edit: didnt notice it was just one candy, honestly would probably wait in that case
Is there a page where all the riddles are solved?
I just have so much catching up to do, feels like we are running 30 events at once
Would it be a good move to use my only tech candy on SSR Cynthia? She's currently 2/3, this is the first I've gotten one of these sync move candies so I want to be extra sure.
Imo, it's worth it. At 3/5, she becomes a much better sync nuker with Brain Sync 5 and Smarty Pants. She gets passive healing from Haunted Healing and most importantly, she gets Ghost Wish MPR3, which helps her output consistent damage (provided the MPR activates)
How do I begin doing the 2K champion stadium runs? I’ve tried to follow some of the megathreads but it seems I’m still having trouble.
Here’s what I have so far:
Would appreciate any sort of help to point me in the right direction!
I can recommend you great teams and builds for the whole clear, you have quite a strong roster, but most of your useful units are lvl 1. Can you level them up and grid them appropriately say for at least like 5 whole units all the way to min lvl 130 and orbs for grids (38K coop sync orbs total)?
Not trying to discourage you but 2K CS MM demands not only strong strategy and team building but also well invested units, you do have some but not a lot. If you have those resources I can no problem recommend you a couple of team ideas that may help.
Ahhh I see, I was curious how close I was to making it with what I have. It seems I still have more work to do. What units/teams do you recommend raising generally? It seems I probably won’t have time to raise them till the reset but if you have ideas now I’d appreciate them so I know what to work towards!
Also I unfortunately missed out on cyrus and Giovanni upgrades so I can’t have them optimally unless they re-run their power up events.
Yes, I was actually building you a team already and you do have some units leveled up already but I don't know if you have grids and lucky skills which can make some of these fights harder because you don't have a lot of 6* EX units to work with.
R1 Loreli - SS Serena + Ramos/Elio + Skyla
R2 Bruno - Giovanni + Bianca + Rosa/Leaf
R3 Agatha - Masked Royal/Nessa + OG Red + Hop
R4 Lance - Diantha + Gethsis + Spring Burgh/Sycamore
CH Blue - SS Red + SS Morty + Lillie
Most of these units heavily need their grids where applicable, and particularly it would really help Giovanni if Rosa could be 6* EX, Leaf isn't as ideal. Masked Royal is 1/5 but can work with appropriate Red support but Nessa does better DPS. Maybe Masked Royal + Nessa + Red could work but you'd strain Red's buffing capabilities a bit too much.
If you can fully level up these units and are already familiar with end game level playstyle such as quad queue, denials, 3-1 rule and turn layouts you should be able to do this no problem. Otherwise feel free to ask and I can answer as well as I can or maybe even point you at an appropriate thread or video that further explains these details if you didn't knew them already. I can give you grid suggestions but I want to make sure you have enough for investing in at least 8 of them (that's 60K coop (yellow) sync orbs provided you have none of them invested at all). No lucky skill is extremely necessary but further strains a team's need of high level and grid investment.
Hopefully I'm not making it sound like a nightmare ( it is lol, but it's not so bad). Maybe you can attempt a low point CS MM with your current set up and minimal grids. I'm not saying it's impossible but it's particularly annoying this week with 4th round parameter and Lance and Loreli raising evasion.
> familiar with end game level playstyle such as quad queue, denials, 3-1 rule and turn layouts you should be able to do this no problem.
Uhhhhhh, so that’s a no. I’ve seen 2K runs posted on here before so I try to mimic their play but unfortunately I haven’t seen the terminology or methods for it. I’ve come back to game recently, but I did play it for it since its release so I like to think I’m good with the fundamentals!
I’ll definitely keep these compositions in mind moving forward! I know I EX’d leaf because I saw so many LA runs with her and she has done wonders for me there. But, beyond that, is there a priority list I should have for who to EX? I pay for the sync orb double pass so those shouldn’t be a problem.
I also just recently got a striker candy, but probably won’t use it until I get SSGiovanni. Otherwise I was only really eyeing diantha with that. I will be coming up on my tech and support candies soon as well if you have suggestions for those!
It's a great idea to hold on to your candy until SS Giovanni. And I don't think there's a specific list of priority to EX, EXing someone is almost never a bad idea since it gives a +40 on each stat so they become bulkier and hit harder. However I do recommend upgrading some supports first, any support capable of EX benefits from it but some that already want to sync are better (Leaf, SS Blue, SS Morty, Sabrina, Fall Caitlin, NY Lillie, SC Jasmine). Right now it would help a lot if you could get Rosa her 6* EX, it's free and a very powerful tool.
Now, these are the main concepts that helped me back when I started clearing 7.5 CS MM. Hopefully the can help you a bit:
3-1 rule - use 3 moves for every 1 move your opponent uses, this allows you to reach your sync move as fats as possible (three cycles)
Quad queue - once you have used a sync move there's a very small window where you can cast a move with the unit that just used its sync before the opponent uses another move. Opponents won't use a move if a sync move was cast at the beginning of a cycle (aka just after the opponent is done using a move themselves). If done correctly and if you queue moves with your other units you're effectively shaving off a whole cycle till your next sync, otherwise you will have to do 4 full cycles for your next sync move.
Denials - you can force an opponent to skip its turn by a couple of ways, this is done to help you reach sync move faster. You can make sleep, flinch or outright kill an opponent that is using a move (non trainer move) so it will be forced to get off the queue and cast another one. This demands accurate sleep pokemons (troublemaker 1 Agatha, Ramos or Elio, Tech Bulbasaur and Eggxecutor) or high chance flinchers (Aggravation 1 Acerola, BP Morty).
Turn layouts - with extremely few exceptions, most stages' AI use the same turn order to execute their moves, this allows you to predict what opponent will move next and appropriately disrupt it or even denial its turn. The order is the same: Center - Right - Center - Left - C - R - C - L-... Sync moves are ignored in this pattern but in CS after a sync move usually Center always uses moves. You want to kill center fast because it is the only unit that can use sync moves that make the battle harder and harder, but try to chip down sides a bit since once center is dead the sides will start spamming strong AoE move that your strikers won't like.
You just need more EXes. SCEmmet or Ingo should be your top priority.
Should I do both? I was also thinking EXing SSMorty.
Ah and as for Ingo or Emmet, there's merits to both. I'd personally recommend Emmet, since yours is 3/5.
No need to EX if you're just running him with SSRed.
Please refer to the OP...
I just started and got 2/5 SS Red Charizard, Ho-oH and Falkner. I have made 2 pulls on kanto trio. Should I pickup another Charizard to make 3/5 on Victory road or should I get Blastoise?
Imo definitely Blastoise, even if not full powered, having those two (and Ho Oh is also amazing) is a great leg up to start the game. You can basically make two solid teams when you get your footing.
Hey guys, what’s the trick for LG 3 this time around? Do we need to use weather to counter again?
Regirock requires strong steel types. Hop can solo this if you’re patient. Tornadus requires paralysis, and latios is just straight forward damage
So weather is just some icing on the cake to add more damage, not necessarily needed to counter opponents abilities? That’s good. I might not have gems for ss morty…
Yup! This isn't Moltres luckily😂
Do not candy Rosanta... Your supports are honestly fine. You can candy LillieTea if you want, but I don't see anyone in your roster that desperately needs her buffs. You can candy SSMorty and SSDawn once each, since Morty wants sun MPR, and Dawn peaks at 3/5.
Can't think of any strikers to candy.
PDMarnie is probably your strongest tech that wants 3/5. Definitely one of the more potent off-typers in the game.
With that said, don't candy unless you feel like you need to in order to clear content, and your account should be more than capable of doing 10k CSMM full off-type every week.
I have EX Rosa and EX SS Red and I’m trying to decide who to EX next. Is there any must have EX?
Depends on who you have. People have varying opinions, but for the most part personally I’d recommend you focus on supports because they have the most general usage amongst pairs.
If you have ssBlue, 3/5 Leaf, 3/5 Hilbert, or any other notable supports (ssMorty, scLillie, cRed, Ingo, etc.) I would choose the one you use/like the most.
I have spring burgh, regular Lillie, SS morty, Lana, Sonia, leaf with eevee. I think those are my best supports
Sonia is another good option, but I don’t know that I’d go for her compared to the rest unless she’s at 3/5. Standard Lillie and Lana are also kind of meh comparatively, at least in my experience. The other 3 are great choices (though Leaf definitely needs 3/5 to be worth it), so again I’d go for whichever you use and/or like the most.
Thank you for the advice!
Is there a way to trade 4 and 3 star move candies to get something else? One of the move candies I got from the recent event only worked on one of my units. Would there be a way to trade them for the generic 4 and 3 star move candies
Nope. Unfortunately you can't, although we've been wanting to convert them to 5* ones (Like, 10 4* ones to 1 5* or something like that. Or even generic ones like you mentioned)
If it's a damage dealer, there's no harm in raising it beyond 3/5. The slight damage boost is pretty good. Otherwise, you could hold onto it till we get more BP units
Damn. Well I know what's going into my next request, since the update solved my problem with leveling
Hi, after a fee days I'm figuring things again, but I need help with one thing: who should I focus on leveling? I know that Leon, Blue and Ho-oh sre good, but no idea about the others.
Here are some other great options:
Serena: Her DPS is appreciably high. If you have enough sync orbs, definitely try gridding her for damage. She'll be a a great Fire type damage dealer with Morty/Ho-Oh supporting her. Alternatively, you can stick to using Leon. Just putting it out there
Bianca: The only non-limited Psychic Terrain user, her Stored Power damage is really good. She just needs a crit support and Special Attack support (in case she can't raise her Special Attack to +6) and she'll go bonkers. Alternatively, you can pair her up with Giovanni/Mewtwo to increase the latter's damage
Cyrus: A really good Dragon Striker and an even better Water type one. Just needs the right grid and a Rain setter to destroy the stage
Dawn: She gets better at 3/5 but even at base, she's an amazing Physical tank meant to be run on Physical stage (due to her passive Power Siphon 9, which reduces the opponent's Attack by 1 and raises her own Attack when hit)
SS Elesa: The Special support Bianca and Cyrus need. She gets her Trainer move MPR at 1/5 itself, so she can buff Special strikers really well
Jasmine: Basically Dawn without the passive but better Defense. A good alternative to her.
Volkner: Similar to Bianca, he's the only non-limited ELectric Terrain setter. You don't generally deal damage with him but pair him up with another Electric type damage dealer to power them up.
Yup! That's it. Some other sync pairs like Morty, Olivia, Hilbert are good but need more move levels.
Thanks for your tips, they are very helpful! I did a few more pulls and I got these new, are they good?
Wally is a pretty competent Striker who gets better with each move level. Would definitely recommend you level him up.
Selene and SS Misty aren't too great though. Selene's damage is good but we have better Grass type damage dealers. SS Misty's sync nuke is really good, but 1) It's hard to set up and 2) Her main moves are Haze and Mist, which are really niche
Honestly I may even recommend doing some more reset rolls. You prolly want 2/3 kantrio so you can get last one in victory road, and could get a spring pair or just morty again with it without too much resetting.
Putting that bit of effort in early can help a lot down the line.
So yea i just decided to start the game again and noticed that i alr got 2 3 5 stars to max potential and the only thing remaining is 6 star ex. So how can i obtain those custom legendary spirits? I got 100 of legendary spirits but i got no clue where to exchange them
Actually, normal sync pairs and legendary sync pairs use different spirits. The regular ones are called "Champion Spirits" and the legendary ones are called "Legendary Spirits". I assume you have the former ones, because Legendary Spirits are event exclusive and you'll need to wait till they rerun that event again.
The normal Champion spirits can be used on any other character to raise them to 6\*EX (except the Legendary sync pairs like Giovanni, Cyrus etc.)
Ohhh ic so its only for the legendary sync pairs huh
Yup! More specifically, sync pairs you get from the "Legendary Adventures" and regular ones use different spirits
SS Morty would eventually rerun right?
Considering he's a PokeFair, yes. He's likely to rerun in 4-6 months
Not necessarily. Since the introduction of the Poke Fair Select Scouts reruns are more random. Raihan has yet to have a rerun.
Is there a doc or website where you can see where every banner for every version of the this game?
There isn't anything specific like that, but you can check when each sync pair was released [here](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sync_pair) and the date when the new versions came out [here](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Masters_EX#Android)
Is there a place where I can specifically look at pokéfair units and when they were reran/ released?
I couldn't find a specific PokeFairs page but on Serebii ([here](https://www.serebii.net/pokemonmasters/syncpairscout.shtml)), all the banners which have been released are mentioned. Just Ctrl + F and search PokeFair. It'll filter out all the PokeFairs from the list
Thank you :)
Which stages on events give the most event vouchers?
Usually the harder ones but it's happened (and quite often at that) that an easier level may be more efficient.
You can determine this by dividing rewards / stamina consumed. Assume max possible rewards so for example a stage that rewards 30 vauchers guaranteed with up to 15 bonus vouchers at 30 stamina each completion: 45/30
Do this for all the stages and the one with the highest quotient is from the stage with the best reward efficiency.
I got 2/5 Morty/Ho-Oh and am out of stones. Should I use my one support candy on him to get him to 3/5? The only other competition for candy is my 1/5 SS Blue (or I guess Sonya Yamper but nah).
Also want to pull Gio later this month so probably not going to keep pulling Morty to try to get to 3/5.
SS Blue by all means. He gets the most stuff out of that candy but do eventually raise SS Morty to 3/5 because that's where most of his gimmicks are locked behind of. SS Blue appreciates 3/5 but doesn't need it that badly.
I think I’d personally candy Blue. TM mpr, Racing Rain, and Adrenaline I think are more impactful than what Ho-oh gets, but Ho-oh isn’t a bad choice to candy by any means.
Should I try to 3/5 shiny hooh
Well with no context of what you have or are looking for in new units I’ll say no because he’s not a must pull unit. At the very least you can wait to see what’s in the June datamine.
Ok fair enough I'll save my gem since I pulled one copy lol tbh idk what I'm looking for in New pairs
What are the Tome Sets for (from the Chancey/Blissey events)? I keep getting them and continue to have no idea.
Tome sets give you all 18 types of tomes. It just reduces visual clutter.
You use tomes to raise the level cap to 125 and 130, while codices are used to raise the level cap to 135 and 140.
Oh, jesus... I never put that together!
Is SC Sonia worth pulling? I'm a bit on the fence about her. I really like Tsareena but with SS Gio and future june sync pairs (Lugia?) I'm kinda hesitant.
Worth? No, Grass Strikers are anything but missing. Even Brendan alone can get the job done.
Only pull if you really like her. Though yes, saving for this month and the next is recommended if you like Johto and probably overpowered pairs.
How are people beating the johto challenge battle round 2 with 3 johto pairs?
I don't have SS Morty, but I do have SC Jasmine. Her physical defense aint great however. I've thought about praying for flinch-locking with battlepoint Morty, but I really don't have the patience to try for that.
I've got pretty much every johto pair at at least 2/5 if not 5/5. I'm toying with the idea of giving up on Silver, and just tossing Mega Steelix in with Swellow and Drifloon, to try to build mega steelix's stats up and let it explode, then see if I can stall for a few more syncs between fly and drifloon's off-the-screen mp move as well.
Does the enemy team have something that massively reduces damage in sand? It feels like they do. I don't know of a consistent weather setter or wiper, other than Lyra and Silver's sun on sync.
It feels like if the enemy team gets off a single sync (resetting sand) they'll then use earthquake at far too high of power for me to do anything about, ohko'ing my striker(s).
Not sure if you're still having trouble with this, but I have a pretty middling Johto roster and was able to pull it off in one go with the mishmash daily team I had laying around:
3/5 EX Jasmine/Steelix, Silver/Ho-oh, Bugsy/Scyther
I just let the sand exist, buffed defenses, synced with Steelix, and spammed Leer + Sacred Fire after the first sync. I think Steelix fainted as I was cleaning up the sides at the end, but it was fine.
Gotcha, thanks for letting me know! I don't have the limited bugsy, just the regular one, but still, makes sense.
I ended up using SC Jasmine, BP Morty, and swapping to an overheat build with dauntless.
The opening move of the fight, center did a high horsepower that took out 65-80% of Celesteela's health in a single shot, even at +2 defense from Morty's "I see you" It was ridiculous, I thought there was no way I'd win.
I took out the sides first and let the middle get off one sync, with my second sync timed to land right after. Then it was pretty easy to smoke center because by then my overheats were doing 5 to 9 k apiece. I didn't even use any flash cannons to try to drop any special defense, just used absorb for low gauge and regen on celesteela. Plus, a couple of lucky flinches were pretty nice at the end, meaning center sat around doing nothing for a few rotations.
You don't need great flinch luck. SC Jasmine's physical defense isn't godly like her special defence, but it's still decent, so with her having regen and triage tank and Morty providing physical defense buffs and potions you've got plenty of survivability. I found it helped to delay second sync to right after enemy sync, so that the enemy refreshes sand only to immediately have it replaced by sun.
Does ------Silver* sun count for his sync as it sets it up? It sounds like it sets it up after, so I've dropped the solar flare or whatever from his sync grid, since I don't have any johto pairs that can set it up before his sync. Guess I'll just cookie him for dauntless or whatever sp atk drop protection, and try an overheat build. Sacred fire build isn't cutting it.(edited Morty to Silver)
Do you mean Silver? I don't think so, and anyways his sync is physical so not going going to do much if you're relying on SC Jasmine for buffs.
Thanks! Yeah I just noticed that when looking at his moves, mixed attacks and mixed sync kinda sucks for Silver, but I had him cookied with crit, so I think swapping him to dauntless will work out for the best.
Has anybody else been having connectivity issues with the game as of the last update? It’ll constantly tell me that my connection failed and sometimes even boot me back to the main menu. It wasn’t doing this before the update :(
I have not. Have you tried rebooting your device or playing off of WiFi for a bit to see if that helps?
Hi. What other sync pairs can max crit and sp atk besides Sabrina and Alakazam? I know Elio and Prima can but it's not very efficient.
Some general pool sync pairs can accomplish that but they need MPR procs or other conditions: Falkner, Lyra, SS Elesa, Kiawe.
SS Blue can technically max both stats but takes a lot of time to do so, Ingo can raise them quickly but he's not going to be able to max out Sp Attack.
SC Lillie can max both but a bit too slow. SC Jasmine is the best, she acts like a special Hilbert.
It would help to know which sync pair are you looking to support, most have some buffs themselves that can help the supports round them up. For example Torchic can round up any striker that can at the very least raise its crit by 1.
Thanks for the awesome reply! I'm mainly looking at buffing SS Leaf so I can use her as a grass striker though I'm also looking at supporting Lusamine, May, Bianca and Serena. Aww. I missed SC Jasmine :( Cause I just started playing again recently. Hopefully we get a rerun. Or maybe a new pair that can buff sp atk and crit
Just took a look at falkner and he seems to be just what I'm looking for. Hopefully I pull him when I try to get SS Gio
Most other options need an MPR on their Trainer moves. But, the closest to Sabrina is SS Elesa (just needs one MPR on both X Sp. Atk All and Breathtaking! to max out a unit's SP. Atk and crit)
A lesser reliable one is Easter Burgh, who can eventually max out Sp. Atk (through Team Supercharger 5) but can instantly max out crit.
I am at 198/400 on SC Lillie with 35k gems and don't know if continue or not until I get 1 copy. At the worst I will have 38k at the end of May, but I am worried for June (Lugia? Suicune?)
I will skip Ho-Oh, while for Nidoking I will evaluate on June after datamine
You can get back up to 38K by the end of May if you reach pity for Lillie? If so go for it, I doubt you'll be able to secure a second pity and if you're already pulling for her it must mean you like her.
Just keep in mind that if you do pull for June sync pairs (the most likely time when Lugia or Suicune's banner would run) and get very unlucky you can be in an awful position for both Summer sync pairs and 3rd Anniversary.
Yes, if I pity on Lillie at worst I will have 38k at the end of May. Summer pairs can be skipped, anniversary maybe not. Depends on what I like and what not
If you wanna have gems for the June sync pairs, I think you'd better save for now. You aren't too deep into the banner so I don't see an issue in stopping summons on her.
Who can tank better in the sun?
Lyra or Sygna suit Morty?
Morty tanks better but Lyra has better buff efficiency under sun.
Morty, not even a contest. Lyra's never been a good tank due to her piss poor defensive stats.
How often do you need to go to reach pity before getting the 1/5 feature? Just wondering if it's just me because I had to go pity for the last 3 characters' 1/5 (Cynthia, Serena, Ingo)
To be fair, two of those are master fairs (1% rate). With just average luck a player would expect to see a single copy around 9 or 10 multis, so hitting pity on those isn't too crazy.
General debut features on the other hand (2% rate) you'd expect to see around 4 or 5 multis, but sometimes you just get really unlucky. I'm only just coming off a streak like that myself that's lasted over 3 months, where apart from getting Lucas in 1 multi literally every other banner I pulled on was average (pSerena) or slightly worse (ssrCynthia, cBlue, Diantha) or a full pity (nyVolkner, pMarnie, ssSerena) or I just didn't get what I was after (ssDawn, ssCyrus, scEmmet, sBurgh/sMay, technically Ingo and cRed too).
Only recently has my luck turned back around (two copies of scLillie on the 2nd multi, and ssMorty in the 1st multi). I know it really sucks but you just have to tough it out and wait for something good. Best of luck on your next target!
Really depends. RNG is a weird thing. For me, I got SSR Cynthia on my first multi but had to pity both Maxie and Zerena. So yeah, unfortunately you're really unlucky to have pitied three banners like that😅I hope you get lucky with your next scouts.
I'm nearing my first three candies from the coins :3 and I just needed some advice with my plans
For Support Candy I'm not sure if I should hold on to it or not ,my only option is my 2/5 SS Blue, is it a big boost to him?
For Tech it was a toss up between 2/5 Anni Raihan or 2/5 Lucas, and I'm thinking Lucas would benefit more from it based on grid.
And for Strike I'm torn between 2/5 Red and 1/5 SS Serena, I recently got a 3/5 SS morty and was wondering if Red's performance will skyrocket if he gets the sun related slots. On the other hand Serena is great already but I do find myself using her in off element runs more.
I appreciate everyone's thoughts in advance!\~ :D
As much as I want to say "get SS Blue to 3/5", it isn't as big of an upgrade as going from 1/5 to 2/5 is. So, I'd hold off. He's good enough at 2/5.
I think so too. Anni Raihan already gets a lotta good nodes at 2/5. However, Lucas gets Dragon Zone MPR at 3/5, which is really valuable if you run him alongside other Dragon types, or even on his own.
SS Red gets Solar Flare at 3/5. And SS Morty is a great partner for him as he provides Sun and heals. Would recommend going for SS Red, as Zerena only gets better at 3/5. 1/5 is still a monster though.
So yeah, this is my take.
Ahh thanks \^\^ Really needed that push for SS Red.
Mm I guess I'll hold on the Support candy, is Team triage tank on SS Blue not that noticeable?
No worries! :)
Kinda. The chances of it proccing are low and the healing is also pretty less. So, wouldn't really recommend you to candy him to 3/5
Hey guys, just started yesterday, was looking into how to get into the game and it was heavily reccomended to roll in the kanto pair banner
Got SS Green and 2 SS blue, should I just stop all together to save my gems or is it reccomended to go as deep as I can for value?
Personally would only recommend rerolling until you get 2 or 3 of them in 1 or 2 multis, then spending gems elsewhere. Leaf does most of what you want from her generally at 1/5, Blue wants 2/5 to shine (but does get a nice bump at 3/5), and Red is still a solid striker at even at 1/5 (though he also really wants 2/5).
Also if you weren't aware, note too that you can get 1 of your choice for free from clearing the victory road portion of champion stadium; can use that to pick up whichever you are missing.
After that you could start stockpiling (recommended) or try your luck at some of the current banners, of which scLillie and ssMorty are the only choices I'd recommend for a new player. Just be aware that Lillie will go away in a couple of days so you might not be able to reach pity, while Morty will be around for basically a whole month.
Considering you got 2 SS Blue, I'd recommend you save now. We're getting a really good Striker later next month and you might be interested in getting him
Alternatively, if you wanna save more gems, we might get better sync pairs in June. So, once they are revealed, you can decide on who to scout for.
70k Masters on this sub!
Who is better at 3/5?
SS Dawn + Cressalia
SS Morty + Ho-oh
I'd say SS Dawn. She does get some good nodes for Moonlight on her 3/5 grid. SS Morty imo is fine at 2/5, as his main node of Sunny Day MPR is there. 3/5 is a good but not entirely necessary upgrade imo.
F2P player here. Thinking of pulling for Giovanni (hopefully to 3/5) but I already have SS Serena at 3/5, covering my ground striker option. Still worth for the Poison/Steel damage? I have 50k gems currently but I would like to save for the eventual/probably Lugia unit and the 3+ anniversary units in August. Is SS Gio so game breaking it would be silly to skip him?
A few things to consider:
- As you probably noticed, the top tier sync pairs don't care about type coverage. Serena would still destroy any stage even if she had no ground type move.
- That said, the 2,5 Anniversary introduced a curious new extreme battle concept based on type. Not speaking about the stage being weak to a certain type, instead they basically forced you to bring sync pairs of a specific type in order to get a x5 stat multiplier (similiar to the daily regional battles). Right now this would be the bigger concern for me when it comes to type coverage, not the actual super effective damage in a CS Master Mode or what. So yes, having an actual literal Ground type damage dealer could come in handy one day.
- I assume the math will be done soon, but I'm very confident that SS Giovanni will have comparable damage to Serena or Lusamine. Unlike them he doesn't demand the first sync, which will allow you to benefit from a Support EX instead. Double sync buff combined with this massive base damage of Mega Kick and the multipliers on his grid - it's going to be crazy. Only downside being the lack of Aoe, but he makes up for that with a on-demand Max move.
- SS Giovanni drops in ~three weeks and will stay long enough for us to take a look at the June pairs, so you can make an informed choice without pressure.
- You can skip Giovanni, no sync pair is a must have. Especially not a pure damage dealer that is bound to be powercrept at one point. It's going to take a while to power creep this monster, though, and who knows how they will buff him in roundabout ways (ground wish).
Amazing Answer, thank you. I will I guess just wait for the next datamine. I just got back into the game a month or two ago, I was unaware of the type-limiting (or suggesting) extreme battles.
SS Gio is very strong so I definitely think he’s a safe addition to most collections. Mega Kick is super strong and his Steel and Poison damage being good are strong selling points. 3 types in one unit is really nice.
However, if you’re on the fence you can always wait to see what is in June. I wouldnt worry a ton about anniversary yet, we’ve been getting a pretty nice supply of gems each month this year so there will be time to save. We still have I think over 20k gems left this month so you’d still have a decent stockpile even if you had to pity.
Thank you for your answer. I also have no dynamax unit so I am interested in using one for the first time. But I will wait for the June datamine as you and the other person suggested.
Steel-weak stages can be cleared with Hop+Solgaleo+speed buffer.
Poison is still rare, but you can offtype it if you don't have Plumeria/Allister.
There's no need to pull - it's just another striker. No pair is a must have - they'll release a new broken damage dealer next month, and the next one, and so on... SSerena can offtype Poison-weak stages at 3/5 easily.
And even if you pull, going to 3/5 via gems isn't recommended - get 1/5 and candy later.
Got it, thank you for your answer. I am severely lacking in poison so may still go for it, but I will wait to see what june brings.
I'm not sure what to do.
On one hand, I like Morty and Ho-Oh because of the story. But I am not sure whether he can be any more use to my team (besides helping Burgh). I already have Maxie setting up sun.
I also like Giovanni more, so I plan to scout him as well.
Not to mention that I have 74K gems now (after completing The Golden Future event). Which sounds fine, until there might be more Johto sync pairs next month
However, I do realise that it can help Maxie have the sun for a very long time, as I realise now that Maxie's sun duration is finished before Maxie deals the final blow.
Sync pair list: https://imgur.com/a/96cwMxg
Well first off, the banner runs until 6/15 so you can hold until June datamine and see if the other offerings are more valuable to you.
Redundancy with your units is valuable for things like gauntlet, and manual sun is less limiting than Maxie’s sun, while also being more useful than Blaine. Given you have SS Red and Leon I think that an additional sun user could be useful for them too.
That being said, besides sun SS Morty is kind of a jack of all trades units who just does a lot of other different things well but doesn’t excel in them. So I think he’s a unit that is safe to skip if you’re on the fence. That also being said, faves > meta, if you want him that badly go for it!
Sorry to not respond earlier
Thanks for your help.
Just one last question, if you don't mind.
Who can tank better in the sun?
Lyra or Sygna suit Morty?
Morty is a really good tank, really high defenses, defensive buffing, and healing capabilities all make for a good tank.
Lyra’s ability to tank is kinda poor for a support actually on account of having really bad physical defense and pretty average sp def. She can take special hits somewhat ok with Light Screen though.
What's the best team for SC Lillie? I got her at 1/5 and candied her to 3/5 because I am a fan of Lillie.
I have most units.
She's a support; you don't build teams around supports. Especially a unit like SCLillie that can fit into nearly any team.
I’ve got a select scout available and can’t decide on who to choose. Debating between May or Brendan mostly, but I also like what SS Misty, Masked Royal, Elio, Volkner, Gladion all have to offer. Is there one of these pairs that is definitively the best to pull or am I over thinking it?
Hard to decision,It really depends on what unit/type you wanted the most. Conclusion , choose your favourite.
There are no worst parameter, just got what the parameters suit to you to beat the CSMM. Usually I go for offensive parameter, the last 4, then strength 2 and 1 , gradual healing at start , then choose any one of the 50 pts. You can try my parameter.
If you check any Champion Stadium megathread ([here's](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMasters/comments/tud4um/champion_stadium_kanto_challenge_megathread_april/) the one for April), there are pictures in the middle with example lists for both 1500 and 2000 points per battle. And then the comments have many people listing what they used for each battle.
Do I need P. Dawn to get good results with P. Serena’s nuke? I got Serena to 3/5 trying (and failing) to get Dawn. I tried to use her as a sync nuke against Lance this week but her damage was really middling and her Moonblast did more than her sync. Should I be focusing on Moonblast damage instead? I have her gridded for Inertia, Propulsion, and Sugar Rush MPR.
You mean Palentine Dawn for Sp Def de-buffs? It's obviously a great help but 3/5 Palentine Serena should be able to one shot, or at least severely cripple center, within her first sync move. As long as you have gridded Inertia and are maxing out speed and spreading paralysis you should be good. If not you're either using oppressive parameters or maybe her sync didn't crit.
I think dps Serena is way stronger but also harder to use, you'd need someone to Debuff Sp Attack so you need either Gethsis or someone like him, which puts a lot of pressure into your support to raise Sp Attack, crit and speed (Serena is going to be busy lowering Speed for Hunter's Instinct).
Gridded Roxanne was a godsend for PDSerena, since she'll max out Spatk and speed.
The 3rd needs to be a someone who maxes crit, like Burgepi or Redlax.
P Dawn is one of her ideal partners but not necessary. What teammates are you pairing Serena with? Inertia boosted syncs are definitely the way to go imo so maybe you just need to shake up how you’re supporting her or tackling the stage.
I had her with Roxanne for maxing SpAtk and Speed and Piers for maxing crit + using Obstruct to not die from Double Edge. I might need to change up my parameters.
Yeah that might be the way forward.
Also looking at the skills you gridded for I think you’d probably get more mileage out of Paralysis Synergy 5 > Propulsion. With Roxanne you shouldn’t need to use your tm and the countdown is only really helpful after first sync if you’re unable to quad queue for whatever reason, and that’s when you want to be Moonblasting.
Thanks, I appreciate it!
I'm a little confused, are the sinnoh elite 4 members going to join the regular pool? If so, why is there a banner for each one of them?
Sinnoh E4 will be added to the general pool once their respective banners are over. Spotlight scouts are for people who either really want them because they happen to be a favorite character, or to improve chances for people who already have all the general characters to get the 'new unit' without having to wade through quite as many dupes.
Yep! They'll be in the General pool.
Every new sync pair that gets added comes with its own Spotlight scout. So, as all the Sinnoh E4 members are new, they have separate banners
You can guarantee getting the main unit from a banner with 36.6k gems. Most will recommending saving up to that amount and picking a single banner so that you are guaranteed to get the unit you want.
Not...really. It'd be better to focus your gems on one banner. Spreading them out isn't the best idea as then you'll not be able to guarantee any of them incase you get unlucky
Hi, I'm on the phone and can't ctrl+f or better to say, i don't know how.
Does morty worth the pull? I usually go with kanto trio for everything, been pulling like every 6 month xD so i have enough even for a pity pull.
Is he worth it? Absolutely, he's a Support with weather control which enables a ton of teams while shutting down weather abusive opponents. He's ultra defensive but can round up buffs for other strikers quite nicely.
Is he worth the pull more than SS Giovanni? Maybe if you already have plenty of supports and don't use sun teams that often. But Giovanni is just ridiculous, it's hard to recommend Morty before him even if you have Maxie (because of poison dps).
It is impossible to give an answer when we don't even know what you have. Please include pictures of your box when asking these kinds of questions.
Its a lot, I'm not new at the game, i have plenty of sync pairs.
If you suggest any kind of sorting way in which i could show the important things, i would appreciate.
I'm not sure what you mean? Just peruse the sub and this thread and see how people show their boxes when asking questions.
I do know how to upload photos on imgur.
But it would take too much screenshots, so, i assume 5stars and ex units are the important ones, thats a useful filter, but still too much if i check on the dex.
But, if you say, lets say, i only work with fire teams (as i saw it has climate change) i could gather a smaller group to show.
I'm not sure why you're making it so difficult to help us give you a proper answer. If you just want a quick and generic answer (which will be less accurate as a result), then only pull for SSMorty if you've got multiple top tier fire types (3/5 SSRed, 3/5 Reshiram, OGLeon, etc), and want another sunny day user strengthen one of those teams for off-typing.
Here is my box https://imgur.com/a/8c9AyOH
That's not your box, that's the dex... That doesn't show me the sync move level of your units.
For future reference, please filter by support/strike/tech in the future like most other people do.
Depending on your gem count, a 2/5 SSMorty would definitely benefit your account, but as usual, wait until the datamine before making a decision.
I have Leon and ss red but not reshi.
Both Leon and SS Red would like SS Morty, especially Leon because of the buffs SS Morty gives. So, if you have enough gems and the other units don't interest you, go for it.
And piece of advice, no matter how many screenshots it may be, please do upload them to Imgur/any other site and post the link here. We don't have any problem in going through your units and suggesting the best thing to do, but you'll need to do the minimum for that.
Didn't want to bore you but if you wish :)
Just go through this Megathread and you'll see that anyone asking for advice is linking their roster. It's not about us getting bored, it's the basic thing you gotta do so that we can help you
And next time, send your roster from the Level Up screen than the Dex. It's impossible to know your sync pair's sync level with these images
Anyway, looking at this, SS Morty is gonna be a great asset for both Fire Strikers. He does go till June 16 so you could wait for the June datamine to decide. Otherwise, go for it
Hi! I started playing a few days ago and I have some questions:
At the moment I'm just playing the story and doing dailies, events, etc... that I see within my lvl range with the trainers I like, but...
Will I be able to keep using low star units once I get to higher lvl content? I don't know how meta reliant this game is, so I'm not upgrading anyone yet. I'd prefer to clear content (if possible) by playing what I like even if I have better options... for example "Protagonist Pikachu - Flannery Torkoal - Maylene Medicham" instead of "SS Red - SS Blue - whoever would fit best".
[These](https://imgur.com/a/88nj9b8) are my current units. Could anyone build an example of a good composition with weak units and another with strong, meta ones? So I can be shown how their performance compare.
And my last question: is Marnie still obtainable? I can't find her in any banner...
Something I learned quickly about this game when I started was that non-5* units in this game are still honestly *great*. Not always, of course - but tons of them still regularly find homes on my teams, because of what they do. The trick is to learn *how* to teambuild, and to use the filters to find pokemon that do what you need. Even some of the worst units can become capable of clearing 1500 point Master Mode Champ Stadium (more or less 'the bar' of relevant power) if teamed up with synergistic allies and invested in. *And*, because many of the highest end challenges in this game are designed such that you *have* to run multiple teams, this is not a game where one team gets to steamroll literally everything. Having tons of options available to you pays off.
For instance, since you mentioned them, MC + Pikachu is considered one of the game's overall worst units. Even among free Electric units, Hau (obtainable in story) has a solid AoE attack for roughly the same kind of power, or Egg Striker Raichu has stronger single target potential. *However*, I've absolutely used them to complete Champion Stadiums. How? Team them up with Volkner. Both of them aren't the most amazing attackers on their own, but with the grid, Pikachu has a 90 BP move with respectable SATK and only two gauge use, who also synergizes off of paralysis; and Volkner also wants to set up electric terrain which boosts it even more. Top them off with a unit like BP Surge, who can max their crit, force paralysis, and provide +ATK buffs for Volkner, and all of a sudden you might not have a team that has a *singular* crazy high damage dealer (though Volkner's sync sure can be with EX & 3/5 move level), but rather is able to consistently deal steady damage. And while BP Surge isn't the most reliable tank, MC's Potion access can help them out in return. Most importantly, that consistent performance is enough to get you through many high end challenges.
We have some units in the top tier which totally blast through content. But, even the lower star sync pairs, with the right team, can clear content well enough. The best part of the game is that you can use your favourites to clear stuff (unless you're a Marlon fan lol!)
Based on your roster, here are two teams:
1. Skyla, Hilda, Maylene
2. SS Blue, SS Red, Skyla
Consider Team 2 first. Evidently, SS Blue is an amazing tank who also provides a lot of stat buffs. SS Red can demolish even when the stage isn't weak to Fire, and Skyla can heal with Potions
Now, consider Team 2. Hilda isn't as strong as Red, has a recoil move which'll kill her if she isn't gridded and her main spam move isn't too great. Maylene is a decent Support but can't maximize Hilda's crit. The good part is Skyla who as always provides heals.
Now, the second team, though not on-par with the first, still works when you grid Hilda properly. Moreover, if you get Blaine, you can set up Sun for more damage. Also, Hilda can do massive numbers with her sync move once gridded. So yeah, it's just a matter of finding the right teammates.
Even for me, when I get bored with using OP units, I shift to lesser used ones. Clearing content becomes a bit harder but it's fun, and that's what matters.
Regarding Marnie, all three alts of hers (Morpeko, Grimmsnarl and Mawile) are limited. Grimmsnarl will rerun in June as it is a Summer unit, Mawile will rerun in February next year (Mawile is relatively recent as it came in February 2022). However, Morpeko is a PokeFair. PokeFairs usually take 4-6 months to rerun. She hasn't gotten a rerun lately so you can expect her in the coming months.
Ohh I see, thanks a lot for explaining! And if I wish to guarantee Marnie when she's up I'll need 30k for the pity roll I think?
Also, how is SS Leaf with SS Red and SS Blue? I've just obtained her and I really love the outfit, plus thematically she feels much better than Skyla in that team.
36.6k, to be precise actually.
The Kanto Trio as a whole synergizes pretty well. SS Leaf is a pretty good partner for both as she provides Sp. Def debuffs (so that Red does more damage) and heals with Potion (so that Blue survives even longer).
Though SS Red has better teammates, SS Leaf with the boys is a pretty solid team. It's one of the most all-rounded, synergetic team we have.
I think Beedrill's grid definitely makes him a more competent damage dealer.
Beedrill suffers from the problem Pinsir does too: Really good Attack stat but low BP moves. However, I think Ingo + Beedrill + Hilbert/Sonia/BP Surge should be a great team. Twineedle with Toxic Power 3 + Bob and Weave should hit decently hard.
His sync move could be a bit weaker primarily due to the Mega, but with Blind Spot, it should hit considerably good.
All in all, I think it's a good improvement. I felt Beedrill was always a bit inferior to Pinsir but I feel his grid makes up for it now
Haha yup! I think he's finally viable enough to deal some solid damage
I’ve been sitting on two striker candies and kinda need a good fairy damage dealer. Is the jump from 1/5 Diantha to 3/5 noticeable or would I be wasting my time? I’ve got CIris to help set up devastation.
She gains Devastation, 6 sync tiles and Double Down 2, which all enable her to obliterate on-type content and clear off-type content without much trouble. That's amazing, even more so because you're forced to sync with her anyway. Raising her to 3/5 also inherently improves Moonblast so her dps should be even better.
If you give her the candies the only way you'll regret it is if a striker that you like releases and you're not able to upgrade it. But Diantha herself is quite solid.