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Why do people hate the bfg so much?

Why do people hate the bfg so much?

ToxicSeymour

It isn't the BFG, it's the BFG users. Prebuying the BFG is pretty much an admission to yourself and the whole lobby that you don't want to put effort into being good with literally any other sniper in the entire game. The niche role of the BFG is that it's a low rank gun that can 1sk to the torso. With it's long reload time, slow walk speed, and poor handling, it's objectively the worst sniper in the entire game, so what other reason would you put any effort into using it if you weren't going to use it as a crutch for cheap body shots. All the hate for the BFG gets shifted from the users to the BFG because without the gun there wouldn't be BFG users to hate. Rant is for serious players at least. The BFG is absolutely a fun gun to use, but it forms bad sniping habits and can set you back a ways with all of the better snipers skill wise. If you have fun using it, power to you. Have fun the way you want to have fun. Yeah people are gonna complain (me) but who really cares?


yehawbuster

If you put a chainsaw grip on it, it goes from a crutch for snipers to an incredibly powerful 1 shot slug shotgun (or normal shotgun if you put dustshot on it :P )


ToxicSeymour

Facts. I make mine better with .17 wildcat and the 👌👍 sight to turn it into the most useless gun lol


OrdLucas77

can amt term work with it? I only am rank 15 5k xp away from 16


TheSaltyReddittor

Chainsaw works a lil different from the amt sight. The amtt lets you hipfire while aiming, so slightly zooming in, but the chainsaw grip just basically disables right click and you cant use a scope on it if you have one.


yehawbuster

Idk


Plasma_48

Amt terminator can work with it


OrdLucas77

can u still right click aim


SilverWolf1776

>dust shot *shudder*


yehawbuster

That’s right, be scared every time you turn a corner. I just might be there.


SilverWolf1776

you plague my nightmares


yehawbuster

*Good.*


At0micKarmaBomb

You make some very good points, specifically the point about the BFG filling the niche role of a low-rank weapon that can 1sk torso. The M107 is objectively the more annoying weapon to combat against (like the BFG with 5 rounds), but you don't see the M107 as much is because it's a higher level gun, meaning that it's more expensive so more lower-rank players gravitate towards the BFG. Therefore, I think the biggest complaint for many players is just how many people have it and use it.


ToxicSeymour

Absolutely. While I think comparing the BFG to the M107 is a bit of a *long shot* ;;) between the 3 .50 snipers, people that don't want to/don't care about headshots will gravitate towards whatever fills that niche. If the BFG wasn't in the game, we'd see a lot more players using the Hecate, and if no Hecate, a lot more M107 users. I like all of them, but I don't think a lot of people buying the BFG realize how powerful the Intervention is, especially after it was buffed a few years ago. Probably have more kills on it than all my .50 snipers combined.


At0micKarmaBomb

Yeah especially with attachments like S. Bolt Pull that make the Intervention and other non-.50 snipers great.


TheSaltyReddittor

Hear me out Bolt pull+qcb barrel


QuickCarpenter6031

As you said, with the BFGs lethargic handling, reload, and walk speed, it’s already a pretty low end gun, but, if you put m903 slap on it, it becomes a skill cannon. Long reload, lethargic handling, slow walk speed, no one shot to the torso or limb at any range, while only one shot killing to the head. In my opinion at least, I’d say that makes it a skill cannon (feel free to insult me if you strongly disagree)


ToxicSeymour

No, you're right. Even better though, slap gives it a really interesting play style. The increased penetration distance means as long as people on your team are spotting, you can stay very well hidden and shoot spotted people through entire buildings. That takes some skill.


BlackSmurf_

How do you have a gun under your name


ToxicSeymour

Look up how to change your user flair :)


BlackSmurf_

Thanks


TheSaltyReddittor

Is it bad that i gimmick the hell out of the bfg instead of normally using it and have 1k kills on it because of that?


ToxicSeymour

Nahhh. I haven't actually put effort into hitting anything with it in years. Don't have 1k kills, but sounds like an interesting way to get it.


TheSaltyReddittor

What i usually do is put a pka, remove stock, and caebine barrel on it for the ultimate quickscope experience or if im feeling extra gimmicky i put 2 tri lasers, long barrel, mars and slap rounds and become the laser man


ToxicSeymour

I might have to try those lol. My go-to for a while was the jumbo flashlight. Remove stock, flashlight, and maglite


TheSaltyReddittor

I may have seen you in a match with that then


ObligationOwn5122

Why do you complain? It doesn't hurt your experience at all. Some people are impatient and prebuy.


ToxicSeymour

It does hurt my experience though. I think it makes the game less interesting, and as a result less fun. My issue isn't with pre-buying in general as much as it is pre-buying the BFG specifically. Pre-buy whatever you want, you'll just look worse buying some guns over others.


ObligationOwn5122

cope and seethe


ToxicSeymour

That's the plan


juanin_manzana

i though the dragunov svu was the worst sniper to use but even then a fun one


guest169420

Prebuyers cant hit anything so im actually ok with them, ez xp. But the only 2 types of players i actually hate are actually op weapon users, like rank 200s still using m107 and aa12 because they never knew how to play, but people still call them “pro”. And cheaters. Ironically, I spammed aa12 back then


FragThrower

5k isn't enough to compare it to other snipers I myself have 23k on the intervention and 20k on the Remington 700 both BFG is basically useless when comparing the three snipers together.


guest169420

Yeah so you are proving its not overpowered. But yet these little rank 50s raging at bfg “noobs” who destroy them.


FragThrower

It's more or less annoying to just get sent straight to the menu screen after dying to it. To be frank 50 cals aren't really worth using non of the snipers are with the scope sway still being a thing in fact.


juanin_manzana

huh just get sent to the menu aint that bad i constantly get sented there because of my high ping its more annoying to be on a rampage just so that a guy that was the other side of the map kill you without taking any risks


Soupnoop4

So basically what you're saying is you have no life


FragThrower

It's not that I'm a no life at all. I've been playing PF since 2016. People have more kills than me on every gun. Just look at the CEO's.


Soupnoop4

Oh, sorry. I have a friend that just plays pf all day all night, was sorta forgetting people actually play normally


iambored58

20k bruhhhhh go outside man, I've been playing pf for 3 years and haven't had more than 5k kills on any one gun


The_Engiqueer

That'll be because you use multiple different weapons and swap rapidly, you most likely would have around 20k too on some weapons you like


FragThrower

yeah but prior to that Scope sway wasn't a thing making sniping a lot more enjoyable and not as frustrating as it is now.


The_Engiqueer

oh


FragThrower

I've been playing PF since 2016 when snipers were good and scope sway wasn't a thing so I mained snipers you wont see people maining snipers now a days sad really


rockerstone

grrrrrr tube 50 cal that can limb kill to 150 stud make me angry!!!! gr....... must hate. in all seriousness, i'd bet because the bfg is literally the most prebought gun ever, and that most people who use it dont hit headshots because it's a 50 cal, it'll kill if you just shoot the torso anyway


IG0BRRRR

it can only limb kill to 50 studs


rockerstone

guess im stupid then


UpvoteForFreeCandy

youre not. guy said limb kill. the torso is not a limb


DoctorCodezZ

No, it can torso kill all ranges tho.


TheSaltyReddittor

I use it but still only go for headshots because im too lazy to actively put effort into measuring drop distance


IG0BRRRR

people hate it because it gets annoying when you die to the same gun over and over again, which is also why people hate the mg42 so much it's also because the average bfg main seems to think it's the most op gun in the game 'bEcAUsE 100 daMaGe!!!1!' and doesn't accept the fact that it sucks


TheNineG

if it sucks, then why do people get killed by it over and over again?


Kobmain

because it's easy to use but not very effective


IG0BRRRR

I never said you can't kill people with it


NezTronTron

m107 and Hecate II are worse, aa12 at least needs you to move a bit, those snipers were made for camping


4arxe

I kinda disagree with the aa-12 part you can still shit on people without moving


NezTronTron

well you're not on a crane where almost nothing can reach you


4arxe

Well you can shit on ppl without moving UNLESS youre not that type of bitch to corner camp ontop of a crate


NezTronTron

true


JXtundra

I agree with ur original statement but on the crane once u kill someone on the enemy team or someone spots u ur done for.


4arxe

Not a crane but a crate in a corner where some whiny bitch camps ontop of it on prone with a shotgun making it hard for you to clear that spot youre trying to push


Rorywizz

I hate the M107. Worst gun in the game. I have never used it nor prebought it. Stupid gun.


yehawbuster

Unsure if this is sarcasm or not considering your user flair


Rorywizz

It is sarcasm. I like it because of the actual m82 irl, it's just a good looking gun


Goody_La_Croissant

M107 is such a ass gun, hecate on the other hand....


FatherlessFinally004

.... is an ass gun.


Kyroniic

People despise the BFG for many reasons, one reason is that the gun is very popular and many people has pre-bought it. I myself as well pre-bought the weapon when it first came out. It's a one shot kill to the torso in a certain range which makes the gun really annoying. Some people think that the BFG is a such a horrible crutch weapon, they think that the gun is actual garbage and I agree upon that statement. The BFG in my opinion is really garbage, sure it does one shot in a certain range but you only have one bullet. If you miss that one bullet and you have no cover. You're most likely dead by the time you can get the reload off just to shoot another bullet.


QuantumCalc

Well get in cover then lmao


mikegeoplays

all 50s 1sk torso at ALL ranges


TheSaltyReddittor

Above 400-500 studs no


mikegeoplays

damage only drops off so far, and with a 1.5x torso multi it’s still always going to be 1 shot


TheSaltyReddittor

Yeah...thats how snipers work?


mikegeoplays

so then why wouldn’t it 1sk torso past 500 studs?


TheSaltyReddittor

Because damage falloff?


Johnseef

It's just a shit gun tbf


evilspycandy

if it’s trash then why do people hate on it?


Johnseef

Because they're dumb


Disc_arding

we have reached peak argument


VintageCarnate

i use the bfg to rush, idk why, guess my codm instincts always makes me go rush with a sniper quickscope


budrking354

If it doesn't spam 6-10 shots down range its not good enough for them.


TheRagingKoopa

The BFG isn’t even a good gun. I have killed more BFG users with a stock AWS with zpoint than they have killed me


discountnobody

it isn't a good gun, it's just annoying


augustfirstarmy

Probably because of the extremely low skill floor (no headshots required) and the amount of rank 20's who buy it, but tbh a lot of them are noobs and if you're halfway decent at quickscoping you'll be able to counter them Hence my usage of a mosin nagant with loudener, shortened barrel, and a bunch of other mobility increasing setups lol


OrdLucas77

What does loudener do?


augustfirstarmy

It increases the volume of your gunshots (basically a meme suppressor which does the opposite thing of a suppressor)


OrdLucas77

Wouldnt it be bad cause the enemy could hear you more?


augustfirstarmy

Yeah. But I use it because meme setup And rank 20's rage when you kill them with meme setups


OrdLucas77

Loudener Cons: More noise Pros: Beats the piss out of rank 20’s


OrdLucas77

ayo u gunna reply


cyanide_crab

It’s a one shot to anything an any range, tryhards see you and you die it gives you no chance to fight back


ghghgh90909-7666

I don't hate the gun, just the one who use it and be toxic to other players


ObligationOwn5122

So no one, because people just like using the gun. Let people have fun.


RocketRemitySK

I don't play Roblox anymore but I am gonna say my opinion, I absolutely love it, yes I bought it and didn't grind it but it isn't as op just because it's one shot gun, takt the M107 it's a .50 cal but with a mag making it much better. But I do agree with the reasons to hate it


OrdLucas77

SFG 50: Bonjour


SmokeGuilty8889

BFG 50 is just a one tap machine but that’s all it can do it’s reload is 3 seconds long with a magazine of one bullet it’s more repetitive than the story your grandpa with alzheimer’s tells you


KINDA_DEAD_INS1DE

Title , bfg hate , next aa-12 bruh


Harryp0tterjr

Yeah, hecate II is much better


Xealz

yup


Coolsupersayin8

Because I shot a hole into the surface of Mars and big robot man is angry with me


undercovernormie

I just use it when I wanna turn off my brain and just farm some kills


Digit8chezz

its a crack pipe that one shots from more than a mile away, what else do i have to say


[deleted]

Bfg isnt tilting to me tryhard guns are tho


yehawbuster

I dont mind bfg personally, i prebought it and put h&k sight, carbine barrel, chainsaw grip, remove stock and dustshot and now its just a tube with a trigger


Pterodaqtyl_

People hate the BFG because it's practically the worst sniper, and everyone camps with it. Another thing is that level ~50 players buy the gun, because it has high damage values, and therefore it must be good, right? But then they only use it to camp and everyone hates them.


guest169420

I feel like its only because of their rank and high ranked players getting destroyed by a bfg gets salty. However people dont hate the m107 because the user is supposed to be “experienced”. Making them satisfied with their death. I might be offending a lot of rank 90-100s by saying this lol


Karma-Whales

bfg can be annoying in sniper duels. if youre fighting a bfg and you have one of the many sniper rifles that dont oneshot bodyshot at long range then you’re at a disadvantage


PigSmart

Cuz retarded 8 year olds thinking "1 shot torso all ranges is good!!111!1" Edit: Its not even that good of a gun, sure it one taps to the torso all ranges but good luck getting a high kill game with this piece of shit


ballonobserver28

It’s rewards aiming for the body and not the head, so it’s much easier to just aim in the rough approximation of your enemy hit a shot and kill them instead of having to make an effort shooting at the head. Rewards bad habits. It also has to do with people who use it. See a big number and buy it thinking it’s the best thing cause waow big bullet


FederalChicken2883

It’s bad and people still think it’s good


precn

how?


Yap_Ying_Qian

For me i hate it becuz it doesnt deserve that much love cuz its probably one of the weakest sniper in the game. New players always prebuy bfg becuz its a 1 shot kill gun


GNR_DejuKeju

Because of the amount of people who unironically think it's good


precn

give me 1 reason why it isnt other than 1 bullet in chamber


GNR_DejuKeju

16 rpm, 3+ second reload, the fucking TRG existing


precn

haha, how did i know you would mention the reload time, what do you fucking want its a 1 shot sniper rifle, trg is far less powerful than bfg although it does get the job done


GNR_DejuKeju

Damn bro how did you know I would mention *the core weaknesses of a gun*


precn

because its the only argument people use


GNR_DejuKeju

...because that's literally its weakness???


precn

dont mean its bad, its cheap and 1 shots


SmallDomo4life

First, The fact that is can one shot to the torso through 2 walls at over 500 studs is kinda the main reason. 2nd, yeah i know it only chambers one round but it only takes about the same time to chamber another round as it would to fully reload the intervention.


precn

rang 35