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Boneyboy420

You guys are such babies. That was a good game and was a couple of plays away from a W. Hope Mac's season isnt over


Plane-Ad-3973

Just hoping for a Buccaneer loss and another Brady tantrum this afternoon at this point


Hurdrs123

It’s not healthy, but all I want to do is rant against the clown with the beard. How Bill decided this overrated D -coordinator was the ideal choice choice to place the development of your 2nd year QB is beyond me. He has zero creativity and the offense is predictable AF. All I need to know is they played a team that gave up 6 TD passes to Tua, in a home game, last week and followed it up by giving up 0, with 3 picks, on the road this week.


Effective_Explorer95

Two of those picks were horrible decision from a struggling QB. I don’t give the coaches a pass but what’s wrong with just taking a sack when a play falls apart?


Hurdrs123

Oh, I agree, Mac’s performance was troubling, and the last pick was meaningless (minus the potential catastrophic injury), but what led to the 2nd pick……. First and goal on the 10, followed by two putrid play calls that led to 3rd and goal from the 10


Jay_Louis

I love six yard runs on 3rd and 9. \#FirePatricia


elephantketchup

#firetheguywhohiredpatricia


dr_amir7

On the plus side Jets lost so we are still 3rd in our division


PLaTinuM_HaZe

Our fan base is so jaded that we expect there to be no issues for a second year quarterback in a new system. Really tired of a significant portion of our fan base…


btownusa

What about a former DC (who had some of the softest defenses) turned failed HC makes you feel that he’s the guy to install a new offensive system with a 2nd year qb? The fact that they seemingly can’t get plays into the huddle in time, call passes behind the sticks on 4th down and can’t seem to have a solid play call out of a timeout should be concerning.


AdonisSebastian

Good. Get rid of all the fucking bitching and complaining. I can’t stand all these troll accounts here. Stand behind your team or move the fuck on. We were inches away from a 3 point game at one point. It’s not like we got blown out. For fucks sake


jsw1152

lol this is so pathetic.. “cmon guys we were inches from only losing by a little instead of a lot!!” Gimme a break dude. It is totally normal and rational to be a fan of the team, appreciating years of unparalleled success, and STILL be critical of what we’re seeing week in and week out. The roster construction stinks - starting with the QB. We don’t have high end talent at realistically any position and some disastrous coaching. ITS OK TO ADMIT IT


Jay_Louis

For me it's that I actually feel like this team is better than it plays. There's so many bone-headed penalties, WRs turning the wrong way on routes, Mac throwing directly to defensive players standing right in front of him, and horrible Matt Patricia play calling. But I legit believe this team could have won both losses if they were just smarter and more disciplined.


AdonisSebastian

Gfy


KindPut4785

I'm really sick of homers who think Mac is Brady. Mac sucks. He's mediocre at best. I doubt he'll even be in the league more than 4 or 5 years.


Bacondog22

No one thinks Mac is Brady. But he’s better than other options available to us right now.


BlackDante

That’s what people said about Peyton his rookie season, and Tom his second season. Mac may not be Peyton or Tom, but it’s also still too early to say he sucks you big fuckin baby.


Meunier33

We have no QB on the practice squad?


reddit_forgeddit

Sign Vinny Testaverde.


Bacondog22

Give me Flutie


reddit_forgeddit

Welp Sox suck, Pats suck, Celts lost their coach, but hey there is always the Hartford Whalers!!!!


Powerism

Don’t count out the Bergeron+Krejci B’s this year. If they can play .500 hockey until Marchy, McAvoy, and Gryz return, and Swayman plays as well as everyone thinks he is, they’re a dark horse Cup contender.


deadliftothersup

It's gonna be rough, but I'm glad they're at least trying for a last hurrah


Meunier33

Trade or tank?


zombienugget

I enjoyed the game and it seemed promising at times, what is the point of being a fan if you can't handle a game that we didn't even get slaughtered. Hoping for a swift recovery for Mac.


Rhino184

It’s frustrating when it’s there for the taking and you repeatedly sabotage yourself. There was elements of promise, but two horrible interceptions and the unacceptable fumble arent gonna be tolerated well


buba426

Aaaaaand Mac is injured. The season is over. Sorry y’all maybe in 10 years we will sniff the postseason again.


Icy-Conclusion-3500

So will McDaniels be coming back after a horrible season or two in Vegas?


russianbot24

Just realized that the Raiders are 0-3 lol. McDaniels will be back by the bye.


LastValyrian

I a lot of people on here are constantly confusing “doomers” with just being realists, just calling it as it is. If you want to be more optimistic than others, fine that’s cool. But people saying Mac has had questionable decisions and bad blind throws leading to TOs are just facts, that’s not being a “doomer”.


BlackDante

Those aren’t the doomers. The doomers are the people saying Mac is trash and calling for Bill to be fired


PartyPay

People saying is terrible, people calling Patricia a fat POS, people calling BB a bad coach ... those are the doomers.


Hurdrs123

What has the clown with the beard ever done to not deserve the ridicule he is, rightfully, receiving


Bacondog22

That’s true but there are people in here writing off Mac entirely a comment above you says that maybe in ten years we will make the playoffs. I haven’t really seen that many reasonable takes be called doomers in this thread.


RocketMan181

I wouldn't call Mac being the worst qb on the planet a realistic take


KindPut4785

Tomorrow when the stats are rolled up let's see if any QB has worse numbers than 0 TDs, and 3 INTs, with a 62 rating. I'm thinking Mac will have the worst numbers and it won't be close.


Bacondog22

Joe Flacco 285 0-2 52 rating. Justin fields 106 0-2 27.7 rating So fuck off


Shookicity

Too many turnovers at crucial times against a good team. Defense played good enough to win. Play calling is questionable at times but fine for the most part. Hope Mac is alright but either way he needs to be better. Period. He has 5 interceptions in 3 games now to open the season. Bad interceptions.


reddit_forgeddit

He's not being very smart. He needs to learn to throw it away at times and make a proper read before he throws.


thisbusisempty

Regardless of the negativity in this thread, I enjoyed watching this game. It was back and forth for awhile, Mac looked good in the first half, and there were some big standout plays. I still love watching the Pats regardless of the outcome. Hope Mac is okay, because he looked like he was in an extreme amount of pain.


RocketMan181

The amount of whining after a loss is insufferable


gcotw

Even during the game. Incels here saying it was over during the first quarter


AdonisSebastian

1000’s of new troll accounts. Even on r/NFL it’s quite obvious the amount of nonsense. People saying trade mac or fire bill is just ludicrous.


KindPut4785

Longtime Pats fan here. Fire BB and Yes Mac sucks. I'm not a troll. I'm a realist. Mac sucks and Bill is a losing coach without Brady. Those are the facts you don't have to like them.


Meunier33

Mac carried to the locker room screaming per twitter


Icy-Conclusion-3500

Rough. The look on his face screamed season ending. Hope he’s okay.


DangerousDarius

This aint our year folks. Kraft needs to put his foot down and fire BB from GM so we can actually get talented guys around Mac.


KindPut4785

EXACTLY.


LyradROB7

Wait, you’re serious let me laugh even harder


psychosus

There's no reason not to get a GM. BB is spreading himself thin by being all coordinators and the GM.


colercoaster

You’re hilarious


DangerousDarius

Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?


GhostofSmartPast

Eh, this is something you wait till the end of the season to even think about doing.


Carsharr

Y'all doom and gloom motherfuckers thought the season was going to be bad **with** Mac. Just you wait and see how bad it can really get without him.


Icy-Conclusion-3500

This is when Zappe becomes Brady 2.0 and rises to greatness.


Jay_Louis

Zappe's arm looked better than Mac's in the pre-season, tbh


KindPut4785

We can only hope. I mean he can't be worse than Mac's stat line today. That's the facts. Davis Mills was better today. Joe Flacco was better today...hell your local HS QB was better than Mac today lol.


bordersofsin

Exactly. I have more faith in Hoyer than Zappe, but it’s not going to be great either way.


infamouscrypto8

Wake up guy Brady is gone. We suck. Mac is a turnover machine.


wfd363

Wake up guy… Max is the best option he fucking have… we’ve all seen hoyer play before and there’s a glaring reason why he has always been a backup


Carsharr

So this is your first season watching? Welcome aboard!


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ModaMeNow

Meh. Three interceptions and at least two fumbles


bluntrauma420

That sucks, had an opportunity to win and they just straight up shit the bed


Moss81-

Mac 😰


omars1002

Bad execution during the fourth quarter. Some positives to take from the game. Hope Mac is ok!


BobJacobs2022

Defense still can't cover a TE to save their lives. Mac stinks....sorry he got hurt. Smith and Henry are over paid stiffs.


FkDavidTyreeBot_2000

Henry was Mac's favorite receiver last season and Jonnu's doing great on limited opportunities this season. Patricia's passing game is overemphasizing WRs at the expense of TEs.


GhostofSmartPast

In short, the coaching is inept. They're underutilized players they overpaid for.


infamouscrypto8

Indy beats KC lol wow


reddit_forgeddit

There was an analyst that was predicting this.


JayIsGreen

McDaniels about to be 0-3. Can he come back to Pats if Raiders fire him?


psychosus

I'm not. McD fan and I would rather not, but if he can get Mac back on track then yes.


BaseballRealistic893

My expectations are low ever since Brady left. It’s just not ever going to be the same without 12. Just the facts. Going .500 or so every year is what I’m expecting


Mayjaplaya

The dynasty is over that's for sure


coderascal

whoa whoa whoa. Don't oversell ourselves. 500? [If we're lucky](https://tenor.com/view/the-water-boy-suck-we-suck-rob-schneider-loser-gif-4844179).


gotBurner

Yep. Lightning in a bottle only strikes once.


steamyfunctions

Game day thread don’t have a meltdown during a loss challenge (impossible)


Impulse4811

Some of you would hurt yourselves if you were a lions or browns fan the last decade, grow up, we are trying to figure shit out still


SgtApex

Not just themselves but other people to, I’d take a good guess domestic violence rates go up when the likes of the pats lose because nothing mixes like anger issues and a sports team loss.


Prestigious_Bobcat29

Sadly it’s pretty documented across markets, and scales with the stakes of the game


Impulse4811

Facts, I’m pissed off too but that’s football, we don’t *deserve* to win, gotta earn it, we haven’t been playing good enough to win so thats it.


SgtApex

I’m honestly more upset if Mac is injured bad, people thought this team was bad with him well wait until Hoyer is back there.


Radar91

Figuring things out yes, BUT those 3 int's and fumbles are inexcusable. Plus the secondary in the 2nd half was super awful.


Impulse4811

Whole team is playing super undisciplined rn, we lack focus and I don’t really know what would help at the moment.


Radar91

A lot of dumb penalties too.


yungmeathead

Why don’t you grow up, you can’t handle people rightfully criticizing this team


Impulse4811

Nah way too many spoiled people in this sub, sorry we can’t go to the Super Bowl every year anymore now that we don’t have the goat QB, most teams deal with this shit every year.


SausageWizard

Looks like Mac won't be dancing again anytime soon.


BobJacobs2022

Game changed when he was talking shit and dancing.


PeterRavic

Trash fan base for trashing Mac jones while he’s injured


meegs6611

You're acting like people are happy he's hurt, where has that been said? Questioning if he's the long term guy isn't "trashing" him, quit being delusional. Part of being a fan is evaluating the team. People aren't trash just because their opinion on a player differs from yours


PeterRavic

Look at the comments. Praising that he’s injured so that the pats can get a good pick. The team has a new system which obviously isn’t working yet all the blame goes to Mac


SgtApex

They don’t call them massholes for nothing lol


Cowhide12

We can’t criticize bad play at the end?


RocketMan181

I hate the whining like he's Sam Darnold or something


gcotw

This place has really taken a shit, people just want to whine


gotBurner

To be fair, trashing started before injury.


NotaDumbLoser

Mac atleast gets the rest of this year to prove himself so who knows. Dude looked utterly terrible today. If things go south I'm down to lose and try again at QB at this point


ConnorChandler

If he will play the rest of the year


NotaDumbLoser

you think it's season ending?


ConnorChandler

Hope not it looks like it's a contact injury on his ankle and he was able to hop out under his own power, but his knee also looks awkward during that hit


Dunkinmydonuts1

He looked like he popped his Achilles he might be out the season


NotaDumbLoser

Do you think that's what it was?


GhostofSmartPast

That's just a guess but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a muscle tear.


Dunkinmydonuts1

Good news: schefter reports X-Rays negative. That means no swelling, which means no tears, and no broken bones. At this point my guess is high ankle sprain


thisbusisempty

I feel like you may have missed the possible season ending injury Mac took right before the two minute warning.


HugeSuccess

Buddy: Jones might be done for the rest of the year.


OgieOgletorp

You did see he was injured right? Not going to be proving much.


NotaDumbLoser

You think it's season ending?


OgieOgletorp

https://twitter.com/GregABedard/status/1574127325238755328?s=20&t=3cc_p32Rl0yUUAPIxHbsQg


G_Wash1776

Holy shit we’re 1-2, we played great through the first three quarters of the game and lost it in the fourth. I don’t understand the constant doomerism.


FkDavidTyreeBot_2000

Entitled fanbase with a good number of fairweathers. Lots of people in NE are not used to going into a season expecting anything less than 13-3.


tony2121212

Did you watch the game? We played as well as we could realistically play for 3 quarters *And we lost by double digits*


mrdilldozer

Losing by double digits means nothing lol. The team was in a position to win a few minutes before that happened and committed 2 turnovers. Any team in the league will lose a game by double digits when they do that.


tony2121212

lol "We could have maybe won if we didn't have two turnovers!!!" That is the definition of a bad team and loser mentality.


mrdilldozer

No, it's the definition of someone who watched a very close game. Those were what cost the Pats the win. The loser mentality is demanding the entire team be dismantled and to give up on the season because you lost a close game.


tony2121212

I said that with the caveat "If Mac Jones it out with serious injury" This team is going no where this season. False hope is just worthless.


EAS1000

I don’t understand the constant optimism but to each their own


ConnorChandler

Great lasted only in the 1st half, the rest of the game was a shitshow, and to top it off Mac is now injured


xxlittlemissj

Happy Cake Day! Thanks for saying what we are all thinking. Stupid fairweather fans.


G_Wash1776

Haha thank you!


gotmeduckedup

We’re too used to being 3-0


tony2121212

That has zero to do with it. In 2014 I felt optimistic after 2-2 The past decade we have had plenty of slow starts and I've felt optimistic. Last year we were what, 2-4 at one point? And I said that we could go 7-0 over the next stretch and we had A LOT of reasons to be optimistic. This is not that. Our franchise is injured. The coaching has been questionable/bad. The talent is very average and not good enough. This team is not going to end the season playing well.


elPresidenteHBO

because Mac looks horrible and the idea of him getting a passing touchdown is a day dream


G_Wash1776

Mac didn’t even look horrible lmao


elPresidenteHBO

yea he did. threw in to double coverage non stop. throws behind the line when the receiver has no chance. can’t throw a touchdown pass at all.


yungmeathead

The qb just limped off the field after imploding, what the fuck were you watching? Great to know we’re settling for playing good for parts of the game as well, instead of actual wins


gotBurner

Probably turned it off.


mrdilldozer

I watched a team that was literally in a position to get an easy win before 2 bad plays.


G_Wash1776

And we have no idea what kind of injury it is


Holycrapwtfatheism

Fuck this game. The turnovers and the injury. Started off looking like we had some serious fight and it just died over the game.


gotBurner

Play Hoyer. Lose a bunch of games. Try for another QB in draft?


defiantraindrop

BB would either trade down or whiff on yet another draft pick


OTheOwl

This fan base is fucking horrific. Some of you need to step outside and get some air.


Taengumiho

No kidding. It's one thing to be critical of the team, with the way things have gone, that's understandable, but seeing people literally celebrating this kid being hurt because he made a few bad throws is just gross.


tony2121212

Every fanbase has morons. But saying we are in trouble when we are down 1-2 and our franchise just left the field with a broken ankle/leg and in tears seems like it's pretty bad??? ​ At what point are the idiot homers going to finally decide ITS OKAY TO ACCEPT WE ARE NOT A GOOD TEAM


No_Presentation1242

We just matching our teams shittyness is all


HugeSuccess

Heinous, twisted little cretins here


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nousernamesopen

"the far and away greatest quarterback of all time is better than our year 2 quarterback" No fucking shit


LyradROB7

No shit he’s tom brady


Bad_Karma19

I need all the drinks.


Zzirg

Trade for Aaron Rodgers you cowards /s


WhiteChocolatey

I love this team. But we didn’t do it today. Hurts. Gotta be better.


longagofaraway

3 years post brady this team is in no mans land


No_Presentation1242

And as long as Brady continues to draw breath in the NFL, it hurts that much more.


randomperson17

The sports week from hell


infamouscrypto8

Wow Dolphins had this game won about to blow it


Tgunner192

Holy crap, that's amazing. My heart was breaking, not because New England lost but the way they lost. Watching Miami blunder like that makes me feel much gooder.


AFTCP

I’m on redzone is mac done?


gcotw

He limped off, but who knows


LastValyrian

Redzone won’t even show the Pats anymore lol but because there’s like 5 crazy games going on at the same time


JohnChimpo7

Yeah looked bad


GrantLee123

Major ankle injury


NotFlipkid

Positivity people, defend this performance


Derstilweedndat

Went toe to toe with a really good team, mistakes from Mac cost em, fumble from Nelson too. Mistakes.


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Bacondog22

Wtf. That’s a terrible take


dudefise

i'm not sure there's gonna be any choice in that matter


ClutchHatTrick2

Seasons over


88impala

I hate when they all hug each other after the game


MrLouie420

Bro we should have won this game. Sold so hard


Gruppymatt

It’s so weird seeing the patriots be a mediocre team


Rona_season798

I don’t think it’s weird. If they were in the jerseys when they were dominant than sure. There performance completely matches there ugly ass fuckin eye sore post Brady uniforms.


JouleS88

Every time we get behind we might as well be 50 points down. There's just no ability to come back


bianlp

We drafted Sony Michel over Lamar Jackson 🤣 and ended up with Mac Jones 🤣


Major5013

In hindsight clearly you were the best gm for the team


bianlp

I agree. Get that old washed fraud Belichick out of there and get me his chair.


goldfish_11

Three pretty bad picks, a terrible fumble, letting Lamar run all over the place, can't knock away two TD passes where the DB was right there... just a dreadful day.


Vast_Ad8251

STOP TURNING THE FUCKING FOOTBALL OVER!


GTFOScience

People asking for zappe to go in and the guy is on the sidelines in sweatpants lol


gcotw

That's about the average level of intelligence here, everyone here either knows better or can play better


Chad2Badd

And this Sunday just got even worse cause the bills are gonna win now


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mac jones needs to go asap along. we cant win with him


Death________

This coaching staff fucked him. Belichick has done so much for us but he absolutely fucked him this year and there is no denying it


ppezaris

Just stop. He was the best of five rookie QBs last season let's give him a chance okay?


Ebb_Swimming

Talk about an overreaction. We lost to a team that was better than us, it's not surprising.


MrAMC5

Top 10, no wait... top 5 pick here we come!


Keyann

Matty P to a town square stoning


VanceIX

Fuck all the people shitting on Mac. Good chance he’s out for the season behind a dirty hit and you guys kicking him while he’s down.


No_Presentation1242

I mean it’s not like he’s reading the comments and to critique his play today is totally reasonable, injured or not. Hope it’s not serious, but he threw 3 picks. Bad game no matter how you slice it.


badjezus

k.


infamouscrypto8

He literally sucks ass. No TDs, 3 ints…has more interceptions than TDs on the season. He’s a clown!!!!


Banger85

Time to BLOW IT ALL UP AND START OVER!


WhiteChocolatey

Go fuck yourself. Build on this and we have something. Lose to one of the best HC/QB combos in the league and you’re calling for a full reset. Embarrassing comment.