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Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic – Remake is the legendary tale remade on PlayStation 5 (console launch exclusive)

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic – Remake is the legendary tale remade on PlayStation 5 (console launch exclusive)

LordMcBucketz

damn I’m excited! , I’ve never played it before


ktsmith91

Avoid all spoilers then like your life depends on it because if you don’t know what’s going on then the game is gonna blow you away. I’d seriously avoid all the comment sections to do with this game if I were you.


komokino

Voldemort dies


Witch_of_Dunwich

Kevin Spacey was faking being crippled all along - he’s the bad guy


alex613

Bruce Willis was a ghost the whole time and only the little boy could interact with him.


ktsmith91

Snape kills dumbledore!


komokino

The guy was dead all along that's why no one reacts to him and the kid can still see him


Shvabicu

Even if you've never played the game it's incredibly difficult not to have heard about the twist during these 20 years the game has been out


Kratoskiller113

I have avoided everything about it. Not on purpose mind, I just never got a chance to play it at release and later on when I did try it, I found it overly clunky and outdated. I can’t wait to finally see what all the fuss is about.


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ktsmith91

Yeah but if you didn’t know? Imagine experiencing it for the first time with a remake.


awkward_triforce

I actually have no idea what twist you're speaking of so this is exciting lol


that_guy2010

Vader is Luke’s dad


montgomerydoc

No way


knokout64

Don't read anything. Avoid all PMs. Do your best to forget there's even a twist. Just get outta here in general lol. The story is so good, enjoy the ride.


Skysflies

Seconded. The games story is incredible and getting to experience that without spoilers for the first time is an incredible ride


Diablo516-

Seriously stop reading anything about this game. No videos, no articles, nothing. And prepare for one amazing fucking adventure when it releases.


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appleappleappleman

Delete this comment before some moron spoils it for you the replies! Stay pure!


EldenRingworm

It's a twist on the level of I Am Your Father and I wish I didn't know


onlyq

Is it a prequel to star wars? Or does it retell the story? I never got into star wars


ktsmith91

It’s way before and basically not connected to anything. But there are some parallels with the story and characters. Like how one of the characters is a criminal with a Wookiee sidekick.


CoolHapps

I wouldn’t say it’s not connected to anything, there’s a bunch of references to KOTOR in modern SW media, especially the Revan Legion in, I wanna say it was, Rise of Skywalker?


ClinicalOppression

>basically not connected to anything


Potatoslayer2

It's set 2000 years before the events of the movies, so it's very much it's own independent story.


vshredd

4000 years before.


Hothbyte

Some asshole ruined it for me on the old HARDOCP forums waaaay back in 2003. I have never trusted the internet since


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ktsmith91

Still worth playing but that’s the big moment yeah


Obi_Wan_KeBogi

No it’s still an incredible game.


JMc1982

There are a ton of smaller stories to enjoy, and the bigger story can still be pushed in different directions. There's plenty to enjoy.


WtfWhereAreMyClothes

I never played it but had the big twist spoiled for me. But I assume it's still worth playing regardless.


silentstealth1

I got it spoiled in a podcast a year ago out of nowhere. Is the game still worth playing if I know about the massive twist?


ktsmith91

Yep still worth playing. Even when they drop the twist on you it’s almost like casually mentioned while still being a big deal. The twist was just the cherry on top of an already awesome game.


Jemmo1

Of course


Jemmo1

This, 100% I managed to avoid spoilers all those years ago and i still remember how i feel about it :) All we need now is a Golden Sun remake and all my favourite games have been remade lol (KotoR, GS & Xenoblade)


arjames13

Like others have said the story is one of the best ever. You're in for a treat.


jamieellis1

Avoid Spoilers at all costs.


DTWDjag

Me either!!! I’m probably more excited for this than any video game in a long time.


Ser_Wicky

HOLY COW, GOOSEBUMPS ALL OVER MY BODY. So hyped let’s go!!!!


Xerosnake90

I almos cried. Cannot wait


Ser_Wicky

I leapt from my couch and ran around the house screaming, my wife just stared at me in confusion. It was great!


butterbeancd

The fact that it’s a full, from-the-ground-up remake has me incredibly excited. KOTOR was amazing for its time, but it’s really dated now, and not just graphically. A full modernization sounds incredible.


rayshiotile

yeah as much i love Kotor i have to admit it's basically unplayable without heavy modding. heres hoping kotor2 is also remade


butterbeancd

Agreed on both counts. I tried going back and playing KOTOR a couple years ago, and I couldn’t do it. It just has not aged well. I also really hope that if the KOTOR Remake is successful, then KOTOR 2 gets a green light.


Spitsfyre

I've had two different modern PCs that wouldn't run the game. I paid for it a 2nd time anyway, in vain hope. Not unhappy with that decision, I voted with my wallet.


xslater583

I have to disagree heavily with that, I played both kotor games for the first time within the last 2 years and the only mods I used for both games were both cut content restoration, and resolution patches


Techboah

I hope they completely rework the combat, by far the weakest part of the game


NelsonMinar

It's a great game but what I really want is a remake of the horribly butchered KotOR 2. With all the missing content restored. The game was really great but also rushed and what got released was obviously incomplete.


Obi_Wan_KeBogi

If this does well I’m sure they’ll tackle KOTOR 2 too.


darthbalzzzz

That's what I'm thinking too. And if both do well, why not make a brand new KOTOR 3?


IronSpiderMoon

Stop, I can only get so erect


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Cantankerous-Bean

You telling me this game is 1 and 2 combined into one fluid story ? bruv. Or is it just both remade ? because i feel like if it was releasing at the same time they would have put 1 and 2 in the trailer


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Xenomex79

The fact they started the conference with this is insane. Easily elevated the entire showcase for me


wynn_dog

EVERYONE STAY CALM, IT'S FINALLY HAPPENING


Stock_Pay9060

Did it show an estimated release date? I’m at work and can’t watch.


ohtilt

No, no estimated release date or window. In the after show interviews, they interviewed a developer from Aspyr and I believe he mentioned that it is still a ways away. I'd guess a potential release date sometime in 2023/2024 at the earliest.


Stock_Pay9060

Oof. I was hoping they’d been keeping it under wraps for a while and it’d be end of next year. Especially since it’s a remake, but that’s fine. Just happy to get one eventually


Cantankerous-Bean

A reliable source apparently said 2023 is the plan


TheASSMaster2021

This gives me hope that KOTOR will have a proper third game/finale. I didn't like SWTOR MMO and from what I remember, they changed Revan too much.


Cantankerous-Bean

I think that will be based upon this games reception and this game seems to be releasing 2023, 20th anniversary would sound right. And yeah, kick the mmo's cannon into the dirt.


MegaloJoe

this is the biggest announcement for me from this show(among other great announcements imo). i’ve been wanting to play this game for so long since i missed out when it first came out and was well past that console generation when i took notice of it. it’s great news after being a lil bummed about starfield and eso6


TargetBrandTampons

This is where the fun begins! I can't wait to play through this for the 20th time!


MrMeeseeks987

So sounds like a timed exclusive. Either way a nice get for Sony


Seanspeed

I'll never understand cheering for 'bought' exclusivity.


CaptainFourEyes

This one doesn't seem 'bought' however. Sony seems to be publishing this one which means it might not have been made without their cash flow. In the original article they write as if they reached out to LucasGames first


Cantankerous-Bean

Did they really help ? Because that could mean good things for the quality of the game.


CaptainFourEyes

Yeah I mean at the start of the trailer it says published by Sony Entertainment and they write about how Sony and Team Aspyr are working with LucasArts. They use a lot of 'we' 'our' 'us' terminology when discussing this remake as if they themselves are the ones pushing so hard for this. It's what makes this feel a lot more personal to Sony than just some 'Hey we've bought exclusivity from another publisher'


MysticSkies

Not everyone can afford every console and a good pc. So people cheer for the games their console get. Pretty simple.


elitemouse

Seems more like they should be cheering when games come out on both consoles at the same time so they can play it on their only console. Pretty simple.


VeryVeryBadJonny

A lot of times certain games won't happen unless they are exclusive. For example, I don't think Marvel was looking for somewhere to put Wolverine, but rather Sony and Insomniac struck a deal with Disney. Remember Spiderman games before Sony made it a 1st party exclusive? They were bad for about 10 years. Some of the best dev teams in the industry make exclusive games, it's not by accident.


Tymbo2350

I wish all exclusives would be timed though, I want to play halo, gears of war and starfield on ps5 too


Seanspeed

1st party games should not expected to be timed exclusives. 3rd party 'bought' exclusives are usually always bullshit, though. It's just a check that a platform owner writes to stop another platform from being able to play a game they otherwise would have gotten.


poundsofmuffins

But wasn’t Starfield being created by a 3rd party until it was ‘bought’? It probably would have been released in PS5 if MS didn’t buy Bethesda.


Li0nSlicer

Yeah I hate this fucking argument and it’s how fanboys try to whitewash Microsoft buying an entire publisher. “They’re not buying exclusivity! Those are first party games now!” Yeah no shit. They’re not buying exclusivity for one game, they just bought exclusivity for every game that dev will make.


kawag

Not always. Sometimes the platform owner gives significant development assistance (e.g. Sony co-developing Demons Souls and Bloodborne with FromSoftware), or other resources such as hiring orchestras or providing mo-cap studios and equipment. It’s an investment which brings more, better games to their platform than they themselves have capacity to produce. Sometimes those investments don’t pay out (deathloop….). Sony have a lot of studios (as do Microsoft), but they don’t have unlimited capacity.


loafhimself

Halo has always been poop, gears of war became meh after the second game and while starfield looks interesting I’ll just grab it on PC at some point.


LinkSkywalker

The past 2 Halos have stunk but the original Halo trilogy are among the best shooters ever made


AtraxaInfect

Halo hasn't felt like Halo to me since Bungie left.


LinkSkywalker

Same, the Infinite flight was pretty good but we'll never reach Halo 2/3 levels of excellence again


RockfortprisonCRT

Yeah i dunno about that statement, there's a reason halo has outsold every single Playstation ip in history except gran turismo (which started a generation before halo). As much as I love uncharted etc, must give credit where credit is due.the controls on halo are second to none really


loafhimself

I have always been a PC gamer first and never liked the Halo games lol, I was quake then Battlefield with a sprinkling of CoD if I felt like hating myself lol


RockfortprisonCRT

Yeah that og halo pc port was so bad. It's fair enough if you don't like it man, I'm just saying that objectively claiming it has always been "poop" when it's one of the biggest games in history is crazy. I totally get that you may dislike it, Luke me with cod, one of the biggest games of all time but I don't like it at all. But I can understand it must have qualities sla large number of people enjoy


Okwhatwedoing

ps5 and pc only


Techboah

"PS5 **console exclusive at launch**" Same wording as Deathloop and others, so: PC+PS5 releasing together on Day 1, Xbox later. I'm guessing it's a 1 year exclusivity.


lazymutant256

Um actually it is being published by Sony…. So I don’t think it’s coming out on the Xbox.. pc maybe but not Xbox.


Stevey_Bear80

I blew my load when this was shown… loved this game so much (better than most of the movies!)


Cantankerous-Bean

One of the best starwars anythings. Up there with the og movies and mandalorian


Stevey_Bear80

Definitely, I just hope anyone coming to it new doesn’t know the twist… it really surprised me and was simply the metaphorical cherry on a damn fine cake!


Cantankerous-Bean

The glory of playing it when it first came out


JackStillAlive

So, basically like Dearhloop: PS5 and PC Day 1, Xbox later Good enough


Okwhatwedoing

ps5 and pc only. no xbox


ClumpyCider

It's only exclusive at launch, it will come to Xbox later much like Deathloop


Tumblrrito

Thought it was PC later as well, and only PS5 day 1


jjkiller26

Dont know much about these developers. Wonder what kind of game it looks like, seems so far away still


lightgrip

Yeees finally!


Seanspeed

That's a sketchy choice of a developer, honestly. I really want to be excited about this and I mean no disrespect to the developers themselves, but this is a massively beloved, large scale RPG and the studio hasn't really tackled anything on this level before. Fingers crossed though and I wish them the best. Expectations will be hard to match.


adamthinks

I'm curious why they thought Aspyr would be up to this task. They've never done anything like this before, just all basic ports. Hopefully they manage to pull it off.


Seanspeed

I dont envy those staff. As much of an honor it would be to work on such a classic, the weight of expectations are gonna be crushing.


elitemouse

0 expectations, I'll let everyone else test the game out on launch and see if these devs managed to strike gold or not.


UatuTheWatcher_

Love the Xbox people now deciding that exclusives are bad again as if they didn’t just celebrate Microsoft buying Bethesda. It makes total sense— whenever something cool comes out that we get, it’s a criminal business tactic. But when it benefits them? No problems. Clowns.


tr573

Fanboys gonna fanboy. Been that way since the days of "blast processing"


elitemouse

This is both subreddits every single time. The real clowns are the ones that pick a side in the "console war".


RockfortprisonCRT

If I remember correctly when xbox bought zenimax it was mostly outrage and xbox users pointing out that Playstation does it a lot. They're both the same. Don't claim it's a whole community. Tribalism is a funny thing


poundsofmuffins

When did Sony buy a massive game publisher?


RockfortprisonCRT

Well, the first dev that comes to mind is insomniac


poundsofmuffins

Insomniac is one studio that has made mostly PS games its entire history. ZeniMax Media owns 8 different studios that have made mostly cross platform games. Now all owned by MS. How are these similar?


RockfortprisonCRT

That was one example, out of many. my point was they both buy exclusives. They are the same. think of even console exclusives final fantasy, street fighter etc there's so many. Do you really think Sony haven't bought 8 devs in their time? Look dude, not saying one is worse than the other they are both the same. You don't think Sony would have done that if they could afford it? it's already known they were trying to buy starfield exclusivity, Ms just out bid em, it is exactly the same man, do you understand that? You know insomniac made xbox exclusive as well? The point in my original comment was strictly that both company's buy exclusives, so no one can complain saying its one sided. That's all.and to argue otherwise, like you, is kind of absurd.


Kak0r0t

Buying 1 studio is completely different then buying a entire publisher do you know the difference apparently not


RockfortprisonCRT

I understand they bought a publisher, that included 8 devs. It's not complication hahaha. I'm saying if you think one company buying studios I'd somehow different than another company buying studios, then you have a bias. That's all. It is the same. Sony have have bought over 8 studios, they just weren't under the same publisher. Sony couldn't afford a single purchase that size, that's all.


poundsofmuffins

You said in your previous comment that there was outrage when MS bought zenimax and that Sony does it a lot. I’m asking: when have they done it? Buying a studio that Sony has been cultivating a relationship for years is not the same as buying an independent publisher. Wtf is up with this “they’re the same” bullshit? I’m telling you, they’re not the same. If Sony was to buy EA and make all their studio’s games PS5 exclusive would you then say it’s the same as buying Insomniac?? That’s nuts.


RockfortprisonCRT

Yes they bought a lot at once, should they have done that over time? And to your other point They had a very strong relativity bethesda/zenimax, they had multiple excluifrom them? Oh I get it now, when one company buys studios to make exclusives its actually completely different from when another company does it. /s


deejaysmithsonian

Which Xbox people? Show us!


UatuTheWatcher_

Star Wars subreddit there were people claiming that Sony were dicks for making it exclusive, on the Star Wars Instagram page people were flipping out about it too. It was just annoying to see, I really don’t get the big deal about exclusives.


PlagueisIsVegas

But that makes no sense considering this is coming to PC day 1 and to Xbox later


UatuTheWatcher_

Yeah tell that to people on the Star Wars sub. It was a weird vibe, people were just angry at Sony for it being an exclusive.


SpiritualSoul777

Where does it say it will launch the same day as PS5?....it just says it's coming to PS5 as a console exclusive at launch AND.....AND PC. IT Just says it's coming to PC with no specifications.


PlagueisIsVegas

Then they’d say “Launch exclusive” not “console launch exclusive”. Just like Arc II, just like deathloop etc


Cantankerous-Bean

I feel like bringing it up, makes it seem like there are more of them than there really are.


UatuTheWatcher_

Honestly— probably you’re right. Saw some guy claim that Insomniac always makes the same while in the sentence saying “every Bethesda game is special.” It’s just fanboys being fanboys but it does get annoying to me.


Cantankerous-Bean

I agree, we should all only be fans of games, not defending corporations


SwimmingInCircles_

Whenever something cool comes out that Sony gets its a criminal business tactic Whenever something cool comes out that Microsoft gets its a criminal business tactic Both sides are clowns crying over which multimillion dollar company they're going to give their money to.


CJthetrain

Yep.Xbox fans are super salty


mrswordhold

Yay. Another remake. Woooo


San-Kai

Internet outrage over timed exclusivity in 3, 2, 1…


Seanspeed

More people should get upset about this shit, no matter who does it. But there's SO MANY fanboys who are ok with it when it's 'their' platform that isn't affected.


FudgeRubDown

As long as we get to play it eventually, I'm sure it'll be much more annoyance than outrage. Either way, enjoy!


JMc1982

Doesn't seem *too* hysterical so far. It does take the edge off that they announced it so far in advance, and with the initial reveal - like, if timed exclusivity has to be a thing, this seems like the least painful way to do it. There are a weird number of people shouting at Jeff Grubb that Xbox has to make Indiana Jones exclusive now though, which is kinda wild - not that it's inconceivable, but there's just no logical link there.


vinsmokewhoswho

Yooo


Strom41

Can’t wait!!! Gonna be great!


complex_personas

Cannot wait!


QuoteGiver

So they specifically mention staying true to the story and characters, but no particular mention of combat and mechanics. Do we think it gets a FF7 Remake treatment where they make the combat more real-time actiony but keep all the cutscenes and conversations the same?


MarcheM

> but keep all the cutscenes and conversations the same? That's not the FF7R treatment though. That would be changing the story drastically and taking a 2 hour section of the game and blow it up to a 40 hour game.


QuoteGiver

Heh…true, I guess I needed more separation between the two concepts. Meant if they might give the combat the FF7 treatment, but NOT do that to the story and characters since they specifically mentioned staying true to that.


255BB

My lightsaber is ready. Old school single wield FTW.


Spitsfyre

YEASSS!!!!! Gamer for so many years, this is the game I tell people is my favourite ever. I could not be more happy with this surprise.


Flynn74

Great news. I bought an Xbox just to play this game back in the day after seeing my mate play it for a few hours.


Clothing_Mandatory

Soo odd, I've always associated KOTOR with Xbox, oh well, I'll wait


tr573

My holy Trinity from this time period are this, deus ex, and planescape torment. Hear that gaming gods? 2 left.


Kraftfc

I'm in a mix of excitement and fear. I'm really scared they'll transform this into another hack'n slash or a souls like game. This would kill the game for me.


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DirksSexyBratwurst

It feels like a waste of money for Sony. Don't understand the point


ktsmith91

They’re cool with it until the shoe is on the other foot basically. They don’t really care that FF7 Remake is still not on other platforms even though I can play the original on my Series X. Same will happen with this game which is dumb to me as I own KOTOR 1 on my Xbox. Hoping this one will actually make it to Xbox unlike FF7R.


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I don’t think Xbox fans should complain since they were ok with Bethseda buyout.


Gadafro

Wouldn't lug all Xbox fans together. I sort of understood why Microsoft were bought the studios they did towards the end of the last generation, but I'm really not a fan of this spiralling out of control into this generation as it has. Bethesda purchase has me feeling a little 50/50 - on the one hand, Microsoft most likely need it, but on the other, Bethesda is a massive loss for their PS fans. I get it's just business, but both Microsoft and Sony seem a little gung-ho with buying up studios and with every one that is purchased, the middle ground gets a little thinner and gaming gets a little more insular. Also, timed exclusivity is complete bollocks. It's literally just spending money to mildly inconvenience others. I could understand if they helped fund development or owned the studio, but just paying publishers x amount to not release it on other platforms for a year is a shitty way to spend money, no matter who does it.


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> Also, timed exclusivity is complete bollocks. It's literally just spending money to mildly inconvenience others. I could understand if they helped fund development or owned the studio, but just paying publishers x amount to not release it on other platforms for a year is a shitty way to spend money, no matter who does it. I agree. No argument from me there.


ktsmith91

Exactly. Even if Xbox did a timed exclusive game how would that benefit me as an Xbox player as opposed to it just being multiplatform? It’s like an attempt by Microsoft to try and make me feel special or something? By saying fuck you to everyone except whoever buys into their precious platform? It’s one thing if it’s outright ownership of the game. It’s another when they slip money under the table without ownership to get the devs to screw other people.


ktsmith91

But if Sony owned BioWare or KOTOR then I would just accept that PlayStation is where I’ll need to be to play those games. This whole “it’s here but now the next game isn’t but now the game after that is!” crap is exhausting.


DesMephisto

Oh, you mean like Outer Worlds? =)


ktsmith91

No because Obsidian is owned by Microsoft. Whoever is behind the KOTOR remake isn’t owned by Sony. Big difference. If Sony owned KOTOR then I’d just accept that I have to go to PS to play any future sequels.


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It is what it is. People should get over themselves and move on.


ktsmith91

There’s nothing about myself to get over here lol


[deleted]

I wasn’t talking about you. I was talking about people who get annoying over exclusive when the other side foes it and am ok with it when their side does it.


linksis33

Most people like when sony funds and works with the third parties on exclusives, but these lame timed exclusive deals are cheap.


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Okwhatwedoing

ps5 exclusive and pc


AIOAIOAIOAIOAIOAIOA

At launch. It's a timed console exclusive.


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JackStillAlive

Yes, probably after 12 months


RaDiOaCtIvEpUnK

Thanks for the answer.


rfag57

Oh wow how did Sony get exclusive rights to a star wars ip from Disney?


whythreekay

No it’s launch exclusive


rfag57

Yeah I misunderstood :(


Rogue_Leader_X

Is this thing exclusive or not? I'm guessing it's a fine exclusive, but supposedly Sony is publishing. Which means it could be fully exclusive.


wasabikrunch

100% timed, according to PS blog itself “launch exclusive”. Also publishing doesn’t mean much in these situations, MS “published” rise of the tomb raider in the same way, all it really indicates is money hat to keep off other platforms for a bit.