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Sigma8K

He got the weight of guilt off his back and even if his friends don't forgive him, both Sunny and Basil can forgive themselves and start healing. Well, not sure about Basil though, he's still gonna live in Faraway Town.


Zexion98

yeah that the generic answer I'm always given but all they say is the healing can begin and then that's it nothing about the kind of support you need to even get over all the pain and trauma. Like I've never been to therapy but I at least know theirs more than just talking to a professional and you automatically get better.


Sigma8K

The thing is that they could finally move on, plus everyone else can finally move on. They learned the truth, wounds have been reopened, but it's necessary to eventually heal from the guilt you've suffered through.


Zexion98

I mean you can move on but the guilt and pain is still their. His fears about being hated by the few people he loved would come true and then theirs basil. Like theirs a lot of messed up things but but basil got the short end of the stick he had two conversation with sunny and then before he can commit suicide sunny stops him and just spills everything in the hospital. Like from a story point ok but damn sunny just leaving soon after and to me it kinda feels like hollow?Selfish? Not well thought out given basil still has to live in faraway or not depending on how things go given his grandma died.


Sigma8K

Guilt and pain are still there, but it doesn't mean they're at "full power". Sunny still forgave himself. Also Sunny leaving soon is somehow selfish? The fuck was he supposed to do? Tell his mom that they should stay? And why should they stay when his mom has already set everything up in their new home? And yeah, Basil has arguably suffered the most and tried suicide at least twice (once at the lake and at his house). The ending is still open, so we don't know if everyone forgave him or not.


ashtar123

I mean same could be said about how police wouldn't have seen bruises on mari's body from when she fell, you just kinda have to suspend your disbelief


Wonderful_Mirror_193

It does matter, its just that we don't know if they forgive him or not. While it may matter to the story, what people mean is that it doesn't matter for their enjoyment/understanding of the message(s) of the fiction. Its up for debate, but I personally believe they forgave him after some struggle, but if there ever was a sequel or DLC it would likely be about that struggle.


ashtar123

I don't see the game getting a sequel or dlc myself tbh, i'd want to see one but it feels like it ended right where it was intended to


Zexion98

No I specially said from a non story point, I enjoyed the game and the possible message I just wanted an answer on an outcome that wasn't just bound in tropes. I keep asking but people never say anything but talk about the message and I repeatedly ask for a realistic outcome on sunny's recovery if his friends abandon him.


TheJoedanimal

Because that’s not the game’s conflict. The conflict is between Sunny and himself, through the story we see the chief delusion and truth is about himself, he isn’t haunted by his friends in the depths of his mind, but by a severe personal guilt, a refusal to believe that he himself is a murderer, that he ended all of his happiness over something so petty. The boys didn’t hang Mari to hide the truth from the world, but primarily from themselves, to reinforce that this was some kinda cosmic accident that they can’t bear responsibility for, when it really never was. The opinions of his friends certainly matter in the grand scheme of things, but the truth matters more, and a willingness to come forward and present that truth, knowing that he very well could be denied, shows that he has forgiven himself and believes that he is worthy of forgiveness. As far as I’m concerned, that’s far more important than what comes next.


SnooShortcuts9945

His friends' forgiveness is only there to speed up his recovery to his acceptance of the truth. The guilt will always stay with him and I doubt he'd forgive himself but he's at least trying to move on. If they don't forgive him, he still has Basil to be his friend to lean on cuz I doubt he'd start to hate him (4 years of keeping a secret like a chad). His mom is also there for him (though not physically present, but you can appreciate her efforts into communicating with him). So it'll take a while for him to get on with his life. Also, he could make new friends in the city just like Aubrey with the Hooligans and Kel with his basketball team.


AwkwurdBoi

I can't imagine Sunny's friends would keep being friends if they didn't forgive him after learning the truth, and as you pointed out Sunny needs friends in order to overcome his trauma and live happily. So I think it does matter whether or not they forgive him, but it's up to us as the player write that part ourselves. There's plenty of hints or details that we can use to construct different narratives of what happens after Sunny's friends learn the truth. Personally I think Aubrey, Kel and Hero won't forgive Sunny at first. They would be rightfully angry and confused so they would leave soon after hearing it all. That's why in the secret ending we see Basil and Sunny alone, probably after everyone walked out from hearing the truth. However, I think Kel, Aubrey and Hero would come to forgive Sunny over time, after things cooldown and they're able to reflect on everything.


SnooShortcuts9945

His friends' forgiveness is only there to speed up his recovery to his acceptance of the truth. If they don't forgive him, he still has Basil to be his friend to lean on cuz I doubt he'd start to hate him (4 years of keeping a secret like a chad). His mom is also there for him (though not physically present, but you can appreciate her efforts into communicating with him unlike Aubrey's). So it'll take a while for him to get on with his life. Also, he could make new friends in the city just like Aubrey with the Hooligans and Kel with his basketball team.


SnooShortcuts9945

His friends' forgiveness is only there to speed up his recovery to his acceptance of the truth. If they don't forgive him, he still has Basil to be his friend to lean on cuz I doubt he'd start to hate him (4 years of keeping a secret like a chad). His mom is also there for him (though not physically present, but you can appreciate her efforts into communicating with him unlike Aubrey's). So it'll take a while for him to get on with his life. Also, he could make new friends in the city just like Aubrey with the Hooligans and Kel with his basketball team.


WinterTechnical9590

It is because the game is in Sunny's perspective, it doesn't matter if they don't forgive, since Sunny will never see or hear from them again. For Basil on the otherhand, I don't think forgiveness alone can help him. He have been through so much and is shown to be a danger to himself and is barely holding himself together throughout the entire game. He should go to a psychiatric hospital that is able to help Basil with his needs properly.


Le_Suffering_Man

The truth will set you free from the burden of hiding it, but it won't get rid of the guilt. They'd probably still hate them for what they did, but they know they've been through enough sh•t already. Kel, Aubrey, and/or Hero might not forgive them, but they'd still probably be there for both of them because they still used to be friends and there's nothing that can change that. It'll still hurt, yes. But it was an accident and they were kids. They didn't exactly know any better (considering the fact that Basil knew how to tie a noose and Sunny doesn't express himself that much, showing that he bottles up his feelings) and they were overwhelmed with what happened, and couldn't think straight. They f•cked up big time and thus, causing more damage to their mental states. So yeah. Kel, Aubrey and Hero may or may not forgive him, but they still might try to keep the friend group together. (Thanks for reading my ramble)