I was sex trafficked as a child. I was still going to school, going on play dates, sleepovers, etc. I hate this idea that people who are trafficked can’t leave or do anything but be locked in a cage or some shit
I am so sorry you had to go through that and I sincerely hope life is treating you wonderfully these days. I can't believe how people could even think that way. No empathy whatsoever, it's scary.
Thank you, I’m really making an effort to recover and cut my trafficker out of my life and it’s going well even if I struggle day to day right now, I know I can only get better from here. Yes, the misinformation from this particular case has been really frustrating to me and to most of my community and I feel it’s really dangerous because people will see this and see other signs of trafficking and say “well she went to the store so…”. Disheartening when most people are already pretty ignorant on trafficking in the first place
Hey, I'm currently in my senior year of high school doing an essay about sex trafficking after having read the book "Sold." It's sad to hear about how it happens so much, especially with the amount of dread it brings to victims. I hope things get better you deserve all the good things that come to you.
Thank you, yeah it’s more common than people think, I’m actually in one of the biggest hubs and people still think it’s just “kids getting smuggled across the border” type stuff and it really does a disservice to those who truly need help. It’s better now than it was when I was a kid but I still think there’s kids in it right now that won’t be helped because the signs aren’t stereotypical enough :/. Good on you for that essay, if possible I’d love to read it, I’m glad you have an interest even just in raising awareness, it means a lot.
I'll keep you in mind as tomorrow's my last day in finals week, and it's pretty much about done after tomorrow. I'm glad that noting the essay enlightened you
Also the idea that there are often enough witnesses to testify to human trafficking that aren’t clients is a joke. It’s inherently an isolating crime that is kept secret and away from most peoples eyes unless they’re buying or involved in another way
It is this bizarre idea that only the worst things matter. Like you need to have your arms and legs ripped off to deserve sympathy. Perpetuating that concept is just priming people to fall into the same abusive traps, that makes you downplay your own discomfort.
This is exactly why this is so insidious. I didn’t know I was trafficked until recently because i thought it was only trafficking if you were smuggled into other countries, if I had put another requirement on it such as the idea that i wasn’t trafficked if I could leave I would not have understood and been able to reach out for help, that’s why this is so worrying for me to see.
Thank you. It’s been hard but since I realized justice will not be an option for me I’ve been really working on education, engaging with other survivors, and trying to desperate myself from my trafficker for good and it’s done a lot for me :)
This. While cages are also a thing, most people are unaware that trafficking usually doesn't involve locking people up, but reducing their options. I'm sickened by the lack of empathy most people have. It's like they've got these pathetic boxes in their heads that so and so must fill to be green-lit for sympathy. I ain't a mild misanthrope for nothing.
I pray that you continue to thrive in the future. Stay strong!
Some people will do anything to gain a following and unfortunately there is a whole niche for women who decry feminism. It's pretty funny watching her stumble all over herself as she struggles to justify anything she's saying. At every turn she reveals she doesn't know what she's talking about and is simply here to pander to her MRA/MGTOW audience who want to be told that when women are the victims of sex crimes It's their own faults. You know that's why she keeps referencing her dad right? Because here misogynistic fan base has a the whole " Father knows best" mentality.
It's amazing how "not knowing the details" is a perfect reason to have no opinion on Epstein but it's also a justification to not believe Tate is guilty and assume "he would never do that"
It's all a rhetorical dodge. It's meant to confuse her already not all that bright followers into thinking that nobody really knows because she doesn't. These people represent themselves like they totally understand the situation so if their murky on the details then that means the whole thing is suspect.
Yeah, figures. It's just so unbelievably scummy and the least they can do is admit to it when the other guy repeatedly called them both out on their bullshit but I at least hope some of their viewers were convinced by the only voice of reason in that room
Unfortunately for their side the only cardinal sin is admitting fault. As long as they never back down most of the dip shits that listen to them will still think they were right and he was just "acting in bad faith" as Pearl kept mindlessly repeating. But, yes hopefully a few, even if only a minority, will have heard reason. That's why I think discussions like this are worth having. Because even if it's just one person we pull out of the misogynist muck then that's one more person we pull toward justice.
"I'd rather teach truth to one intelligent man than entertain ten thousand fools" as Maimonides put it. It's hard not to feel like there's no point in trying because most people won't change their mind but I strongly believe it's worth it for the one in ten or even one in a thousand that will. We should always strive to set the record straight and halt the perpetual flow of lies and half truths
I know some women like this, except it’s not usually the grifter mentality. Usually it’s that they never experienced harassment or escaped it throughout life either through luck or force of personality. It’s breeds an absence of empathy for women who are actually abused. For that matter, it even seems to breed some form of contempt for women who are victimized.
It’s a weird world we live in.
They're more concerned about feeling right than being right. Being right takes work but feeling right is easy; you just need to believe what you think is true and shout loud enough to drown out everyone else. And it's super obvious when someone is doing it; they focus more on their own belief rather than objective facts. They keep conflating opinion as fact.
Whenever I meet someone like that, I don't even bother arguing anymore. I just ask why they want to look stupid and leave it at that.
I don't even get Pearl or Jedediah Bila, they keep talking about walls, and women needing to get married early. Meanwhile Pearl isn't married and Jedediah got married at 39 and had her first kid at 40.
These people don't have a single independent thought. Herd mentality. Group think. Pick Me.
They want to be recognized but also part of the team and stand out... Have their cake and eat it too. So they regurgitate rhetoric and parrot back what they've heard but hyperbolize it so they get attention. Usually makes for BIG takes and easy talking points cuz the heard is all talking about the "thing" and yet their take is EXTREME. Also makes for INCREDIBLE cognitive dissonance.
Most likely.
Tends to be common in many people in general. Unless they are willing to look at themselves and take responsibility.
A quote I remember from therapy, abuse recovery... something along the lines of "people have to go to therapy to fix the problems caused by people who need therapy the most"
Yeah, Pearl is always talking about "whales" (fat people) and she's not exactly a size 2, so it's painfully obvious she's insecure about her own weight and is projecting that out on the internet.
But people in the past had to have kids to till the land and keep the atomic family intact and drink breast milk and milk cows and homestead so WE MUST TOOO!!!!
/s
Ya I noticed this with many conservative women. So many of them will say misogynistic stuff about women but they don't follow their own rules. Some of them don't get married until like 30 yet they want me to get married the second I turn 21 or I'm "damaged goods". Nobody ever calls these women out on their shit either. Just calling them misogynistic isn't enough, they don't practice what they preach but I wish they would. Please put her in a kitchen and make her create baby after baby and stop posting online. I'd love it and support her 100% if she did that, she never will though, because she's a fraud just like the rest of them.
That's the funny thing about tradwife TikTok. Like "Shouldn't you be in the kitchen keeping your damn mouth shut? Why are you flaunting your body on the internet? Whore. Be submissive."
/s
With the red pill one it's a simple checklist: 1 they just wanna feel right, 2. If they are currently having sex they are right. As for pearl pick me's are a different type of frightening.
Is an alcoholic that didn't quit until they were 40 unable to state with confidence you should quit an addiction as soon as possible?
Calling out hypocrisy has low persuasive power.
I hate how all these people are like “we don’t have enough proof! Why would he be arrested?” Like dude, are you the police? Why would we give you access to the proofs?
Right? Also, they want women that are in an active police investigation to come on camera, against police and legal advice, and say something to the public before they believe them. Do they understand how shit works? That would compromise every bit of their case, but whatever. They truly believe that the police are holding him with no evidence.....that's not how that works.
Not to mention putting witness in danger. If they were to give out their names then Tate lovers could go and harass the hell out of them and send death threats and that's the last that could happen. But sure let's put they're names on blast because its "more believable"
It is hard for them entertain the idea that the police are actually right when they clearly want them to be wrong. Because if the police are right, them arresting someone and detaining them, and seizing their assets would be evidence that they did something wrong.
How do you not understand what human trafficking and sex trafficking is? And how much proof do you need? It seems like they would object if dude confessed.
Taint: I tricked and manipulated women into getting on a plane then took their passport and used intimidation to get them to stay and perform sexual acts or sold them to other men.
These 2 idiots: No, those women wanted to be there or they would have left. They have legs. They knew what they were getting into by getting on the plane.
Taint: didn’t you hear me, I was paid a shit ton of money and took complete advantage of these impressionable women by luring and coercing them to come with me. Then I passed them around like sex objects and/or sold them to men.
These 2 idiots: it sounds like you’re saying that they could have asked to go and you would have let them. Obviously they would have to figure out how to speak the language and pay for a way to the airport and a ticket home. One time I called my dad for a ride home from a party and he said you got to the party just fine, figure out how to get home. It’s kinda like that right? We are going to need you to show us a full video of the entire event with a letter of authenticity that is notarized before we can say you’re 💯% guilty.
Just because they aren’t in chains in a dungeon doesn’t mean it wasn’t still trafficking. They literally don’t know what the word trafficking means and are imagining a psychopathic sadistic fantasy instead.
Is the girl in there that Pearl or whatever? If it is, she’s the woooorst. She has a “podcast” “show” similar to Fresh & Fit with the worst takes. And her voice is annoying.
That's frankly more an indictment of the people calling her fat and ugly, than her. There are a zillion insults that can be made about her, all of which are true, without resorting to ad hominem attacks on her that implicitly convey that being sexually unattractive and/or fat is bad.
I think it’s more a discussion of how she calls other women old (if they’re 25+), fat (refers to them as wales) and ugly when she herself isn’t attractive, is over 25 and isn’t exactly skinny and has had weight issues in the past.
I don’t think it’s fair to pick her apart, but I do think it’s fair to point out her hypocrisy. She’s not attractive in any way and I think it’s that insecurity driving all of this. Usually is.
You wouldn't know a modern day MLK if it hit you in the face.
MLK was pretty radical in his time you know? And I don't just mean "standing up against the white man", I mean that they thought being a public figure and speaking for these issues encouraged the hate crimes of white supremecy groups.
On that note, Destiny is also pretty well known for taking down racists. You can get back to me when you get something done.
Lmao “destiny had that debate with jontron that one time and that’s exactly like putting your life on the line to fight for your people’s civil rights in the face of extreme persecution and violence”
How about you read literally anything about MLK and get back to me when you’re done sucking off the ego of this slur-loving rich white dude who posts revenge porn of his vulnerable child fans.
So getting doxxed and having the FBI sent to your house isn't severe enough for you?
And again: nice to see how racism, sexism, abuse, etc. are being resolved SO NICELY by NEVER talking about it.
Edit: aww, you're so insecure about your ability to be 100% in the right that you only added that second paragraph after you could suitably soothe your uncertainty with the hivemind of reddit :)
Keep projecting about "frenzied delusion", but again: really shows your priorities here.
Jesus do you really believe that? This dude took endless heat for years over defending women and trans issues back when it wasn’t in vogue. One pushback on an issue is all it takes to be a total misogynist now?
oh if you’re being charitable then you can easily provide the exact quotes for these claims? i’d love to see a timestamp where destiny insists that whites should “scream the N word” as you put it. Thanks!
If he said "Women shouldn't drink from a glass after they saw someone put pills in it" would that be victim blaming too? No, its pointing out where someone is doing something stupid. Pointing out where someone made bad decisions isn't blaming them. Nothing ever happens without the person who decides to rape someone, but I think we'd all call someone stupid for getting eaten by a bear when they wore a suit made of raw steaks to go on a hike. That woman did some very dumb things. That doesn't mean she deserves to be raped, nobody is saying it does. The rapist is a vile piece of shit who belongs in prison. But you sticking your head in the sand when it comes to common sense because you're afraid of being perceived as a victim blamer, makes you nothing more that a virtue signaler.
Christ this is dishonest lol, show me where he has said outright he blames women for rape. I don’t know why you bundled race into this that whole thing is entirely another conversation that is being given the same dishonest treatment.
He's said some pretty yikesey stuff, but I would consider him a feminist based on his sex-positive views on women, their roles in society, and how society ought to move towards getting rid of gender norms and teaching men how to overcome toxic masculinity.
You’re entitled to that view but I know him as the man that has platformed guys like Sneako and Low Tier God while warring with Leftists on YouTube. Also, Debate Bros suck and kinda serve no purpose lol.
What purpose is he serving here? He’s not exposing Pearl or Sneako. We knew that are dumb and bad people already. He isn’t educating them. He’s just platforming bad people as other people stated.
Do you really think he’s providing these people a platform? You could argue pearl is larger then destiny, no? Not sure about the numbers but TBH i find the whole platforming argument totally semantic anyways.
He debates not to educate a bot like sneako but rather to reach sneako’s audience. Do you think that these “debate bro’s” like destiny / vaush are doing the world a disservice by providing public pushback to these morons?
So to specifically answer “what purpose is he serving here?” Members of sneako and pearls audience are still developing their world views and pushing back against them and their misrepresentations on their own streams is useful.
When you said “we knew that are dumb and bad people already.” Clearly a lot of people online DON’T know that sneako or pearl are full of shit. Hence why they have such massive clout. Hence the need for nitpicky “debate bros” to push back against them publicly.
That’s cool and all but I don’t believe that they’re doing that. I feel like Debate Bros are usually white dudes that want to pose as Leftists and be performative but don’t actually do the work. There are far better sources for people to watch on YouTube that will get them to separate from The Manosphere and those people don’t have their wife baking cookies for Nick Fuentes lol.
Everytime pearly things speaks her facial expressions remind me of a 12 year old who’s saying edgy shit so the 16 year olds like them and stop beating them up.
She acts very masculine for someone who believes that they should be pregnant and in the kitchen all the time. Shouldn’t she be homemaking or something?
At least follow your own bullshit views 😂
The fuck was that stupid ass point about her Dad. What Dad is going to be happy that his daughter flew to another country with a stranger and that stranger convinced her to sell her body? Dawg what
To prove her belief that the women are stupid and that they're just mad at their own decisions because clearly manipulation and coercion can't happen ever🙄
It literally hurts my brain to hear them say "this X thing is why I think tate is OK"...
Destiny: Well what about this comparison...
Them: well in that comparison if X thing happened it obviously wouldn't be OK.
Then they back peddle. It's really impressive to see someone claim something then lie about seconds after.
Pearly literally says "I didn't have all the facts with Tate so I'm just standing aside" then goes "I don't have all the facts with Epstein" and she doesn't realize how fucking batshit crazy that is. As they're walked through step by step shown the error of their ways, then they stutter and stumble over their words, then they repeat themselves and back track. Mind numbing. It literally hurts my head to hear people this blatantly contradict themselves and not realize it and double down even harder on their stupidity.
Astounding.
Not to mention them bidding time trying to think of something to say by going "You just like to argue. You're point doesn't even apply here" like just admit you don't have anything you're just as bad as people doing a presentation going "Uuuhhhh...uummmm" its so stupid
deprogrammed my ass. after destiny’s leaves the stream, these two are still going to convince their fans they won a debate they clearly got destroyed in while learning absolutely nothing. that’s how a right wing grift works. ben does it, rogan does it, matt walsh does it, candance does it; they will double down and never admit defeat
I don't know any of these people. I read the title and immediately assumed the two guys were Tate fans and the girl was the feminist. Took me a while to figure it out haha.
That said, it really bugs me how the dude on the left even sounds like Tate when he's speaking.
Sneako is a POS. This article covers it.
https://www.hungertv.com/editorial/being-an-incel-and-a-misogynist-is-more-popular-than-ever-but-will-women-hating-ideologies-remain-following-andrew-tates-arrest/
He's pretty hit and miss now. The issue with him is that even though he's good at debate and has a zero fucks attitude, he's also got a massive ego and it hinders his debates often.
This man has the patience of a GD saint. If that either of the other two’s children or loved ones found themselves in a similar (being gaslit and manipulated by a sex traffickers) I wonder if they’d be saying the same kind of shit. How can they not see what is wrong??
God I love the internet. In just one Reddit post there are comments implying he's fascist for being around them, which is almost always debating them and pointing to how shit their beliefs are, and there are other comments about how bad he is because he shits on other leftists. The only option for him is to circle jerk with other leftists and never engage with others in another way
Half certain? He's not a fan at all . Did you watch this in its entirety? It's no way you can think he's a andrew tate fan if you watch the entire clip
Ah, I'm sorry. Now I feel like an asshole. 🤦♀️
I hope what I said at least made it make sense for you. I was being cynical and assuming it was a guy who couldn't imagine another guy being a feminist and was snarky about it. I really am sorry.
I love how he talks about victims testimony against Andrew Tate and the dipshit dismisses it and then when he asked if there was video of the girls on Epstein's island the dipshit says, well there's testimony from.people that it happened. How can these fanboys be so fucking ignorant of their own hypocrisy.
He also talks about how there are documentaries. Ya know.... the ones that came out after the case was settled and the man was put away. Like yes there were witness and victims who spoke out in the documentaries but thats because it won't cause legal issues in the case or they couldn't be put in harms way anymore.
I physically cringe when I hear pearl talk. Not only is she so stupid it hurts, but wity every word she says about women you hear how she despises women. I really can't stand her whiny ass
From what I understand, this chick doesn’t understand shit.
Edit: I just can’t stop thinking about this and had to come back to add this. I’m sorry but she should be fucking sex trafficked and told “she can leave at any time” and see how she feels about it then? What an ignorant cunt.
Edit 2: I was initially making a joke about how she kept saying “from what I understand”, that was all my initial intent was but I couldn’t stop thinking about how she kept saying (paraphrasing) “well they were told they could leave so what the problem?” I couldn’t believe someone could be so ignorant and stupid to the situation so I came back and make my edit. I didn’t reference the guy on the left but let me be clear he is also a cunt, probably an incel, Nice Guy and rapist himself, and the only way he’d understand what these woman went through is if he was sex trafficked as well. Fuck him.
I haven't really watched Pearl until late but she is surprisingly dense and smoothed brained . I don't understand how she has 1 million subscribers outside misogynistic men just wanting a woman to agree with their misogyny.
From left to right :
Sneako- Popular Red Pill youtuber who got banned on almost all platforms for simulating sex with another youtuber ,and covid misinformation . Buddies with Andrew tate
Destiny - Well known online debater/Gamer
Justpearlythings - She has a Red Pill podcast just reaching over 1 million subs on youtube .
It wasn’t just simulating sex it was simulating rape towards YouTuber ChadChad. Mr beard does a really good video on Sneako: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XLkKqExUq58
You won't believe how many people think like that. I don't know if they just lack empathy and the ability to think about the situation from the victim's POV or because they're just that cruel. Sadly, there are even social workers, especially at shelters and safehouses who think like that. After numerous encounters with people who should know better asking me why I didn't just leave, I swore to myself that I'll never tell anyone i know IRL because hearing that just kills me.
Holy shit the misogyny in this comment. Sex trafficking is not a punishment for conservative women, even women who loudly project their internalized misogyny. That’s something you don’t wish on anyone.
Well she is basically calling these woman who have been trafficked liars and unable to comprehend their situation or even empathize with it. I find that morally repugnant. She is bending a narrative that “well they were told they could leave so it’s fine” into something that’s ok. When it’s in the charges that they were lied to about it and their passports were stolen. EVEN if you want to wait until the trial and proof is shown, fine, but this is just terrible to say and justify what happened to these women. My response was hyperbolic and indicating this girl is so dense she’d have to be literally in the same position as them to understand it. She’s a fucking selfish moron, or pandering to an audience which is worse. The guy on the left can go fuck himself too, I’m sure he’d rape someone without second thought if he already hasn’t. Over the last three years we have dealt with all sorts of denialism, racism, and stupidity from antivaxxers, racists, bigots, fundamentalists, GQP-ers and the like. I’m over treating them like humans nor do I have time to waste on their bullshit.
It’s an issue of the paradox of tolerance, you can’t let the intolerant trick you to being tolerant of what they believe by playing the tolerance card. It’s backwards, and I believe in tolerance, but when someone is amoral and intolerant to what we deem as societal norms you have to stamp that out and in turn be intolerant of that otherwise it spreads. So like I said, fuck these two people idk the middle guy maybe he sucks too if so fuck him as well.
All of that is true, but none of this addresses the problem issues I have with your comment. Let me be clear:
1) you are using vile, sexist language (including misogynistic slurs) to refer to a woman you disagree with, and saying she deserves to be trafficked (absolutely nobody deserves that)
2) you didn’t even address the man
Ok, he’s a cunt too hopefully he gets sex trafficked because he deserves it. I fully understand and generally agree with your issues with what I said, but sometimes for people who defend truly reprehensible things or stand on top of their privilege shouting from the roof that what happened isn’t a big deal like these two troglodytes, the best and only way for them to understand is for it (or something related to it) to happen to themselves, ie Fuck around and find out and I have no sympathy for them if it does.
Grooming your kids taking Christmas card pictures with semiautomatic weapons and taking opposing stances for *some* sort of gun regulation to stop kids from being murdered in school and posting Facebook memes and then whoops your kid gets murdered in school? Too bad. Thoughts and prayers. Post shitty COVID antivaxx “but 99.9% survival rates” etc. memes on Facebook and earn a r/hermancainaward ? Good, the shot was free and you died like an idiot. It’s all the same and I have no sympathy left for truly terrible people and these two are terrible.
You can disagree with someone without being a bigot about it. Wishing rape on someone else (even if you call it something else) is never acceptable. What the fuck is wrong with you?
Can I stop seeing Destiny's face on this subreddit? He and MrGirl were far too close for far too long for me to think this guy actually cares about women
She’s simping hard for a sex offender lol
Edit: I didn’t watch the whole video before commenting, but holy shit, her story about how her dad would react?!? That’s complete bullshit and she knows it! Only reasonable person is the guy in the middle! The other two got Andrew Tate’s dick so far down their throats, truly sickening!
Sneako got banned from twitch for his shit and Pearl has bought the fundy bullshit hook line and sinker - which means she’s going to end up in a loveless marriage cooking cleaning and caring for a useless spouse. Karma is good.
Why are yall so obsessed with blue hair guy lately? I get it, he "stands up to them" but if he was such a "stand up guy" he wouldnt hang out with them so often
Wasn't he also pals with MrGirl for a long time? I know they don't like each other now, but mrgirl, on camera, admitted to raping a girl, as well as just having the most disgusting views I've ever seen. Destiny was fine with him until mrgirl started stalking him or something
Fuentes went to Miami. Him and Destiny ate waffles and debated in person.
Say what you will about the optics of engaging with someone like Nick but Destiny has stated many times they’re not friends.
I don’t share tables and meals with white supremacists. Even if I want to reach across the aisle. Dude is supporting a white supremacist, plain and simple!
Then you’ll never deradicalize people. It’s not really about getting to Fuentes, but rather his fanbase. Saying he’s supporting white supremacist is insane.
no like he and fuentes are budies. They hang out, and destiny doesn't really argue with him when he says stuff. His manifestos are also completely deranged.
I thought they debated in prison and destiny has said they aren’t friends? To me it seems like hes trying to do the “Daryl Davis approach” and is trying to deprogram him, although I could be wrong and completely open to new info!! Just to clarify!!.
from what ive seen not really. also, in prison?
Destiny and Fuentes have just like. Casually hung out on stream with destiny not really pushing against fuentes when he says shit.
There was a pretty big National Socialist movement in Peru for a while (Movimiento Nacional Socialista Despierta Perú), a decently sized one in Chile (Movimiento Social Patriota), and numerous groups in Argentina. Also, just some underground online culture in general. You can't really provide a source for numerous hispanic 20 year-olds posting national socialist propoganda on random websites, because that's not exactly the type of stuff you save.
Catholicism has the opposite effect, really. Catholicism like that had a much bigger influence in Spain. (The Carlists and the Falange during the Franco years).
Catholicism in Latin America much more correlates to Liberation Theology.
honestly idk. I think maybe in the US its different then, bc I have definitely seen the link between Catholicism and white supremacist hispanics in the US.
I think there’s definitely an argument to be made that having someone like him dunking on these people is preferable to them being able to spout their bullshit without pushback. The debates kids watch are on TikTok and they look like this. Should we not debate these idiots? Their ideas won’t go away. Should we only debate them in old school college forums where none of the impressionable youth are watching?
Do you know destiny’s background? He’s brought tons of people out of the alt right pipe line by engaging in debate with these type of people. He debates with fact and reason, instead of just silencing them, which in turn makes their echo chamber even larger.
funny how Destiny can debate two people at the same time and still win the debate lmao
i would like to add i feel like when pearl is arguing with men she is kinda more "respectful" and not as fierce as she is with women i would say its because she loves putting women down and needs men to like her, she needs their attention
and sneako what the fuck, what kind of evidence does he need, there are tons of videos about Tate himself teaching men how to manipulate women and sex trafficking... Tate could murder people before his own eyes and Sneako would still kiss his ass
Classic example of considering everything the perpetrator is saying is true, but disregarding what the accusers are saying and then using their skepticism of exclusively what the accusers are saying as proof that they're someone who carefully evaluates the "facts"
"If you could leave, I don't feel sorry for you" directing contempt to the person who is being abused instead of the abuser is always wild to me. It never crosses these peoples mind to say "how about you don't abuse/harm?"
For clarification, the dude in the middle is the feminist and the two on the side are tate fans, yes the woman is a tate fan. I too was surprised to see a woman who is a Tate fan.
Ok, sounds like this insane woman is not only delirious, but defending him. He was literally caught red handed and she’s like “let’s wait for the facts!” The facts are being published, victims have spoken out, there’s videos of what they were doing, I mean **how** **much** **evidence** does this woman need until she realizes her idol is a fucking monster??
Truly, it is sad how easily brainwashed people can be. I mean the man advocated controlling and abusing women and this chick is totally okay with it! I just don’t get it, she *is* a *woman*, she doesn’t realize she advocating for this stuff to be done to herself?!!! And the females she *cares* about! God I hope she doesn’t have kids or nieces or nephews.
Edit: I wrote this at the beginning of the video. Those 2 are delirious!! Holy shit! They think the girls, who mind you weren’t free to leave and were watched by guards, decided to stay and sell themselves for the hell of it! Just, omg…… I guess I can understand why the dude on the left supports Tate, though it’s still really sad how easily manipulated he is by videos of big houses, hot women who were forced to look like they were “having fun”, nice clothes, and flashy cars. I mean I can see that the guy probably has little respect for women, or at least believes that women are okay with being treated so poorly.
This video definitely made me lose a chunk of my faith in humanity. I mean the dude made **videos** on how to do the crimes he’s being **charged** with, and people are crying out about this being the matrix ensnaring Tate. My god, just thinking of it makes my head hurt!!
I think she's the only woman in the world that can't get dick, like this bitch tryna make dudes more aggressive everyday and then say it's all cool because it's our DNA, bitch stfu where yo dick and balls.
I was sex trafficked as a child. I was still going to school, going on play dates, sleepovers, etc. I hate this idea that people who are trafficked can’t leave or do anything but be locked in a cage or some shit
I am so sorry you had to go through that and I sincerely hope life is treating you wonderfully these days. I can't believe how people could even think that way. No empathy whatsoever, it's scary.
Thank you, I’m really making an effort to recover and cut my trafficker out of my life and it’s going well even if I struggle day to day right now, I know I can only get better from here. Yes, the misinformation from this particular case has been really frustrating to me and to most of my community and I feel it’s really dangerous because people will see this and see other signs of trafficking and say “well she went to the store so…”. Disheartening when most people are already pretty ignorant on trafficking in the first place
Hey, I'm currently in my senior year of high school doing an essay about sex trafficking after having read the book "Sold." It's sad to hear about how it happens so much, especially with the amount of dread it brings to victims. I hope things get better you deserve all the good things that come to you.
Thank you, yeah it’s more common than people think, I’m actually in one of the biggest hubs and people still think it’s just “kids getting smuggled across the border” type stuff and it really does a disservice to those who truly need help. It’s better now than it was when I was a kid but I still think there’s kids in it right now that won’t be helped because the signs aren’t stereotypical enough :/. Good on you for that essay, if possible I’d love to read it, I’m glad you have an interest even just in raising awareness, it means a lot.
I'll keep you in mind as tomorrow's my last day in finals week, and it's pretty much about done after tomorrow. I'm glad that noting the essay enlightened you
The essay may enlighten others, but certainly not the person you’re talking to. They lived it.
Also the idea that there are often enough witnesses to testify to human trafficking that aren’t clients is a joke. It’s inherently an isolating crime that is kept secret and away from most peoples eyes unless they’re buying or involved in another way
It is this bizarre idea that only the worst things matter. Like you need to have your arms and legs ripped off to deserve sympathy. Perpetuating that concept is just priming people to fall into the same abusive traps, that makes you downplay your own discomfort.
This is exactly why this is so insidious. I didn’t know I was trafficked until recently because i thought it was only trafficking if you were smuggled into other countries, if I had put another requirement on it such as the idea that i wasn’t trafficked if I could leave I would not have understood and been able to reach out for help, that’s why this is so worrying for me to see.
I Hope you are doing well now.
Thank you. It’s been hard but since I realized justice will not be an option for me I’ve been really working on education, engaging with other survivors, and trying to desperate myself from my trafficker for good and it’s done a lot for me :)
This. While cages are also a thing, most people are unaware that trafficking usually doesn't involve locking people up, but reducing their options. I'm sickened by the lack of empathy most people have. It's like they've got these pathetic boxes in their heads that so and so must fill to be green-lit for sympathy. I ain't a mild misanthrope for nothing. I pray that you continue to thrive in the future. Stay strong!
It took me like halfway through this video to realize the feminist was the guy in the middle
sexist! /sar
I was ready to throw down and defend Destiny (which is a girl's name)
Well duh he has blue hair. Everyone knows that blue hair = feminist. /S
Pearls such a grifter imagine talking shit about your own gender for some clicks, no Shame.
Some people will do anything to gain a following and unfortunately there is a whole niche for women who decry feminism. It's pretty funny watching her stumble all over herself as she struggles to justify anything she's saying. At every turn she reveals she doesn't know what she's talking about and is simply here to pander to her MRA/MGTOW audience who want to be told that when women are the victims of sex crimes It's their own faults. You know that's why she keeps referencing her dad right? Because here misogynistic fan base has a the whole " Father knows best" mentality.
It's amazing how "not knowing the details" is a perfect reason to have no opinion on Epstein but it's also a justification to not believe Tate is guilty and assume "he would never do that"
It's all a rhetorical dodge. It's meant to confuse her already not all that bright followers into thinking that nobody really knows because she doesn't. These people represent themselves like they totally understand the situation so if their murky on the details then that means the whole thing is suspect.
Yeah, figures. It's just so unbelievably scummy and the least they can do is admit to it when the other guy repeatedly called them both out on their bullshit but I at least hope some of their viewers were convinced by the only voice of reason in that room
Unfortunately for their side the only cardinal sin is admitting fault. As long as they never back down most of the dip shits that listen to them will still think they were right and he was just "acting in bad faith" as Pearl kept mindlessly repeating. But, yes hopefully a few, even if only a minority, will have heard reason. That's why I think discussions like this are worth having. Because even if it's just one person we pull out of the misogynist muck then that's one more person we pull toward justice.
"I'd rather teach truth to one intelligent man than entertain ten thousand fools" as Maimonides put it. It's hard not to feel like there's no point in trying because most people won't change their mind but I strongly believe it's worth it for the one in ten or even one in a thousand that will. We should always strive to set the record straight and halt the perpetual flow of lies and half truths
Amen sister.
Look pick me's don't give a flying f about the rest of y'all. Also their dedication to not care hits male levels.
I know some women like this, except it’s not usually the grifter mentality. Usually it’s that they never experienced harassment or escaped it throughout life either through luck or force of personality. It’s breeds an absence of empathy for women who are actually abused. For that matter, it even seems to breed some form of contempt for women who are victimized. It’s a weird world we live in.
“You just wanna argue” Um yea, no fucking shit. You have shitty opinions about this thing and I would like to tell you how shitty they are.
Some people don’t realize how dumb they are
They're more concerned about feeling right than being right. Being right takes work but feeling right is easy; you just need to believe what you think is true and shout loud enough to drown out everyone else. And it's super obvious when someone is doing it; they focus more on their own belief rather than objective facts. They keep conflating opinion as fact. Whenever I meet someone like that, I don't even bother arguing anymore. I just ask why they want to look stupid and leave it at that.
If you’re gonna complain about someone wanting to argue maybe Destiny wasn’t the best choice.
Pick me
She admitted that she’d rather be a pick me girl than a feminist on her tiktok lmao
"rather be a pick me than a skip me"
I rather be skipped than be picked by the men she panders for. I’m good alone!
I don't even get Pearl or Jedediah Bila, they keep talking about walls, and women needing to get married early. Meanwhile Pearl isn't married and Jedediah got married at 39 and had her first kid at 40.
These people don't have a single independent thought. Herd mentality. Group think. Pick Me. They want to be recognized but also part of the team and stand out... Have their cake and eat it too. So they regurgitate rhetoric and parrot back what they've heard but hyperbolize it so they get attention. Usually makes for BIG takes and easy talking points cuz the heard is all talking about the "thing" and yet their take is EXTREME. Also makes for INCREDIBLE cognitive dissonance.
I honestly think what they hate about themselves they project on others
Most likely. Tends to be common in many people in general. Unless they are willing to look at themselves and take responsibility. A quote I remember from therapy, abuse recovery... something along the lines of "people have to go to therapy to fix the problems caused by people who need therapy the most"
Yeah, Pearl is always talking about "whales" (fat people) and she's not exactly a size 2, so it's painfully obvious she's insecure about her own weight and is projecting that out on the internet.
She also talks about how women should be pretty and feminine while being neither. It’s ALL projection with them, always.
I got married young, I have a successful in my relationship with up and downs. But I know marriage and kids aren't for everyone.
But people in the past had to have kids to till the land and keep the atomic family intact and drink breast milk and milk cows and homestead so WE MUST TOOO!!!! /s
I had those responses from "trad guys" at the time I was nursing and thought it was semi normal be proud of breast milk lol
Ya I noticed this with many conservative women. So many of them will say misogynistic stuff about women but they don't follow their own rules. Some of them don't get married until like 30 yet they want me to get married the second I turn 21 or I'm "damaged goods". Nobody ever calls these women out on their shit either. Just calling them misogynistic isn't enough, they don't practice what they preach but I wish they would. Please put her in a kitchen and make her create baby after baby and stop posting online. I'd love it and support her 100% if she did that, she never will though, because she's a fraud just like the rest of them.
That's the funny thing about tradwife TikTok. Like "Shouldn't you be in the kitchen keeping your damn mouth shut? Why are you flaunting your body on the internet? Whore. Be submissive." /s
With the red pill one it's a simple checklist: 1 they just wanna feel right, 2. If they are currently having sex they are right. As for pearl pick me's are a different type of frightening.
I don’t even know who these people are and don’t care after this video lol
Good choice
Is an alcoholic that didn't quit until they were 40 unable to state with confidence you should quit an addiction as soon as possible? Calling out hypocrisy has low persuasive power.
I hate how all these people are like “we don’t have enough proof! Why would he be arrested?” Like dude, are you the police? Why would we give you access to the proofs?
Right? Also, they want women that are in an active police investigation to come on camera, against police and legal advice, and say something to the public before they believe them. Do they understand how shit works? That would compromise every bit of their case, but whatever. They truly believe that the police are holding him with no evidence.....that's not how that works.
Not to mention putting witness in danger. If they were to give out their names then Tate lovers could go and harass the hell out of them and send death threats and that's the last that could happen. But sure let's put they're names on blast because its "more believable"
It is hard for them entertain the idea that the police are actually right when they clearly want them to be wrong. Because if the police are right, them arresting someone and detaining them, and seizing their assets would be evidence that they did something wrong.
How do you not understand what human trafficking and sex trafficking is? And how much proof do you need? It seems like they would object if dude confessed. Taint: I tricked and manipulated women into getting on a plane then took their passport and used intimidation to get them to stay and perform sexual acts or sold them to other men. These 2 idiots: No, those women wanted to be there or they would have left. They have legs. They knew what they were getting into by getting on the plane. Taint: didn’t you hear me, I was paid a shit ton of money and took complete advantage of these impressionable women by luring and coercing them to come with me. Then I passed them around like sex objects and/or sold them to men. These 2 idiots: it sounds like you’re saying that they could have asked to go and you would have let them. Obviously they would have to figure out how to speak the language and pay for a way to the airport and a ticket home. One time I called my dad for a ride home from a party and he said you got to the party just fine, figure out how to get home. It’s kinda like that right? We are going to need you to show us a full video of the entire event with a letter of authenticity that is notarized before we can say you’re 💯% guilty.
Destiny:"You wouldn't call it sex trafficking if you could leave at any moment" Girl: "That's a good argument." I cannot, lol.
Just because they aren’t in chains in a dungeon doesn’t mean it wasn’t still trafficking. They literally don’t know what the word trafficking means and are imagining a psychopathic sadistic fantasy instead.
Sneako is a literally a fucking degenerate. Goofy ahh Cuties enjoyer head ass.
Is the girl in there that Pearl or whatever? If it is, she’s the woooorst. She has a “podcast” “show” similar to Fresh & Fit with the worst takes. And her voice is annoying.
She’s so hated that I’ve see feminists calling her fat and ugly. Quite an achievement. She’s an idiot.
That's frankly more an indictment of the people calling her fat and ugly, than her. There are a zillion insults that can be made about her, all of which are true, without resorting to ad hominem attacks on her that implicitly convey that being sexually unattractive and/or fat is bad.
I think it’s more a discussion of how she calls other women old (if they’re 25+), fat (refers to them as wales) and ugly when she herself isn’t attractive, is over 25 and isn’t exactly skinny and has had weight issues in the past.
Her hair is so bad! It's so frizzy and full of split ends. It's distracts me every time.
I don’t think it’s fair to pick her apart, but I do think it’s fair to point out her hypocrisy. She’s not attractive in any way and I think it’s that insecurity driving all of this. Usually is.
why is this guy constantly surrounded by fascist
They say he's trying to "deradicalize" them. That's how they introduced him on few podcasts.
What’s that quote about being a meeting with fascists?
if you’re at a meeting, and some one waves a nazi flag without anyone denouncing them you’re at a nazi meeting
I don’t know but I hope you’re not trying to imply someone who’s job it is to debate people debating fascists makes them a fascist.
That’s not how I view Destiny. I view as someone that platforms these kinda people in bad faith.
Yeah because crossing your fingers and letting societal issues run unchecked obviously works super well. What else, MLK gave racism a platform?
You really just compared Destiny to MLK and thought it was a good argument. Sheesh
You wouldn't know a modern day MLK if it hit you in the face. MLK was pretty radical in his time you know? And I don't just mean "standing up against the white man", I mean that they thought being a public figure and speaking for these issues encouraged the hate crimes of white supremecy groups. On that note, Destiny is also pretty well known for taking down racists. You can get back to me when you get something done.
Lmao “destiny had that debate with jontron that one time and that’s exactly like putting your life on the line to fight for your people’s civil rights in the face of extreme persecution and violence” How about you read literally anything about MLK and get back to me when you’re done sucking off the ego of this slur-loving rich white dude who posts revenge porn of his vulnerable child fans.
So getting doxxed and having the FBI sent to your house isn't severe enough for you? And again: nice to see how racism, sexism, abuse, etc. are being resolved SO NICELY by NEVER talking about it. Edit: aww, you're so insecure about your ability to be 100% in the right that you only added that second paragraph after you could suitably soothe your uncertainty with the hivemind of reddit :) Keep projecting about "frenzied delusion", but again: really shows your priorities here.
Interesting considering *you’re* the one conveniently ignoring the racism, sexism, & abuse that Destiny has perpetuated.
Sneako is one of the most insecure dudes in the public eye.
I do not think Destiny is super left leaning or a feminist he’s just debating with two morons lol.
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I think that demonstrates how stupid the other two are.
Jesus do you really believe that? This dude took endless heat for years over defending women and trans issues back when it wasn’t in vogue. One pushback on an issue is all it takes to be a total misogynist now?
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This is the least charitable representation of anything that I've ever seen.
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oh if you’re being charitable then you can easily provide the exact quotes for these claims? i’d love to see a timestamp where destiny insists that whites should “scream the N word” as you put it. Thanks!
If he said "Women shouldn't drink from a glass after they saw someone put pills in it" would that be victim blaming too? No, its pointing out where someone is doing something stupid. Pointing out where someone made bad decisions isn't blaming them. Nothing ever happens without the person who decides to rape someone, but I think we'd all call someone stupid for getting eaten by a bear when they wore a suit made of raw steaks to go on a hike. That woman did some very dumb things. That doesn't mean she deserves to be raped, nobody is saying it does. The rapist is a vile piece of shit who belongs in prison. But you sticking your head in the sand when it comes to common sense because you're afraid of being perceived as a victim blamer, makes you nothing more that a virtue signaler.
Christ this is dishonest lol, show me where he has said outright he blames women for rape. I don’t know why you bundled race into this that whole thing is entirely another conversation that is being given the same dishonest treatment.
He's said some pretty yikesey stuff, but I would consider him a feminist based on his sex-positive views on women, their roles in society, and how society ought to move towards getting rid of gender norms and teaching men how to overcome toxic masculinity.
You’re entitled to that view but I know him as the man that has platformed guys like Sneako and Low Tier God while warring with Leftists on YouTube. Also, Debate Bros suck and kinda serve no purpose lol.
commenting that debate bros serve no purpose on a video of a debate bro serving a purpose. It’s possible to have a gray view of someone.
What purpose is he serving here? He’s not exposing Pearl or Sneako. We knew that are dumb and bad people already. He isn’t educating them. He’s just platforming bad people as other people stated.
Do you really think he’s providing these people a platform? You could argue pearl is larger then destiny, no? Not sure about the numbers but TBH i find the whole platforming argument totally semantic anyways. He debates not to educate a bot like sneako but rather to reach sneako’s audience. Do you think that these “debate bro’s” like destiny / vaush are doing the world a disservice by providing public pushback to these morons? So to specifically answer “what purpose is he serving here?” Members of sneako and pearls audience are still developing their world views and pushing back against them and their misrepresentations on their own streams is useful. When you said “we knew that are dumb and bad people already.” Clearly a lot of people online DON’T know that sneako or pearl are full of shit. Hence why they have such massive clout. Hence the need for nitpicky “debate bros” to push back against them publicly.
That’s cool and all but I don’t believe that they’re doing that. I feel like Debate Bros are usually white dudes that want to pose as Leftists and be performative but don’t actually do the work. There are far better sources for people to watch on YouTube that will get them to separate from The Manosphere and those people don’t have their wife baking cookies for Nick Fuentes lol.
Everytime pearly things speaks her facial expressions remind me of a 12 year old who’s saying edgy shit so the 16 year olds like them and stop beating them up. She acts very masculine for someone who believes that they should be pregnant and in the kitchen all the time. Shouldn’t she be homemaking or something? At least follow your own bullshit views 😂
Right because you can just go home if someone took all your money and your fucking passport
The fuck was that stupid ass point about her Dad. What Dad is going to be happy that his daughter flew to another country with a stranger and that stranger convinced her to sell her body? Dawg what
To prove her belief that the women are stupid and that they're just mad at their own decisions because clearly manipulation and coercion can't happen ever🙄
This girl makes me sick. I think I speak for most women when I say we do not claim her.
That was awesome! Cognitive Dissonance is a real issue for some people and this just proved it. This was literal Deprograming in action.
It literally hurts my brain to hear them say "this X thing is why I think tate is OK"... Destiny: Well what about this comparison... Them: well in that comparison if X thing happened it obviously wouldn't be OK. Then they back peddle. It's really impressive to see someone claim something then lie about seconds after. Pearly literally says "I didn't have all the facts with Tate so I'm just standing aside" then goes "I don't have all the facts with Epstein" and she doesn't realize how fucking batshit crazy that is. As they're walked through step by step shown the error of their ways, then they stutter and stumble over their words, then they repeat themselves and back track. Mind numbing. It literally hurts my head to hear people this blatantly contradict themselves and not realize it and double down even harder on their stupidity. Astounding.
Not to mention them bidding time trying to think of something to say by going "You just like to argue. You're point doesn't even apply here" like just admit you don't have anything you're just as bad as people doing a presentation going "Uuuhhhh...uummmm" its so stupid
deprogrammed my ass. after destiny’s leaves the stream, these two are still going to convince their fans they won a debate they clearly got destroyed in while learning absolutely nothing. that’s how a right wing grift works. ben does it, rogan does it, matt walsh does it, candance does it; they will double down and never admit defeat
Sneako unironically has an IQ of 95.
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“He’s just an arguer” what is he supposed to do? Agree with your shit opinions?
I don't know any of these people. I read the title and immediately assumed the two guys were Tate fans and the girl was the feminist. Took me a while to figure it out haha. That said, it really bugs me how the dude on the left even sounds like Tate when he's speaking.
Sneako is a POS. This article covers it. https://www.hungertv.com/editorial/being-an-incel-and-a-misogynist-is-more-popular-than-ever-but-will-women-hating-ideologies-remain-following-andrew-tates-arrest/
This blue haired guy seemed pretty based. I bet he plays lots of different games on stream.
He's pretty hit and miss now. The issue with him is that even though he's good at debate and has a zero fucks attitude, he's also got a massive ego and it hinders his debates often.
He sold his soul to Factorio, and playing anything else is a miserable chore to him now. It's Tragic. I think he plays DnD sometimes.
How is factorio the one game that is not a chore to him? that game was designed to be a chore
The deafening silence when he makes his point about Epstein island 🏝️
They were searching their smooth brains for how to respond but still disagree to keep their opinion and think they're right
This man has the patience of a GD saint. If that either of the other two’s children or loved ones found themselves in a similar (being gaslit and manipulated by a sex traffickers) I wonder if they’d be saying the same kind of shit. How can they not see what is wrong??
The only redeeming quality about her is that she doesn't give relationship advice.
Honest question: is that Destiny?
They sure get caught together a lot for people who disagree with each other
God I love the internet. In just one Reddit post there are comments implying he's fascist for being around them, which is almost always debating them and pointing to how shit their beliefs are, and there are other comments about how bad he is because he shits on other leftists. The only option for him is to circle jerk with other leftists and never engage with others in another way
Sneako the pedo defends Tate with a pick-me girl. Color me shocked…
im like half certain destiny isnt an andrew tate fan? but,,, damn ur title doesnt make any sense either
Half certain? He's not a fan at all . Did you watch this in its entirety? It's no way you can think he's a andrew tate fan if you watch the entire clip
sorry i was deciphering ur title Ɛ> i dont kno anyone else on my little screen :3
You assumed the woman would be the feminist here (me too) but NOPE lol
r/unexpected
How does it not make any sense? Destiny is a feminist, the other 2 are Tate fans. It's not that deep.
it turns out im dyslexic
Ah, I'm sorry. Now I feel like an asshole. 🤦♀️ I hope what I said at least made it make sense for you. I was being cynical and assuming it was a guy who couldn't imagine another guy being a feminist and was snarky about it. I really am sorry.
the title didn't make sense to me either. I think there is a word missing
Who are these people? And is that girl absolutely a moron, or what?
Imagine degrading your own gender to be liked by the other gender who hates everything about you!
I love how he talks about victims testimony against Andrew Tate and the dipshit dismisses it and then when he asked if there was video of the girls on Epstein's island the dipshit says, well there's testimony from.people that it happened. How can these fanboys be so fucking ignorant of their own hypocrisy.
He also talks about how there are documentaries. Ya know.... the ones that came out after the case was settled and the man was put away. Like yes there were witness and victims who spoke out in the documentaries but thats because it won't cause legal issues in the case or they couldn't be put in harms way anymore.
I physically cringe when I hear pearl talk. Not only is she so stupid it hurts, but wity every word she says about women you hear how she despises women. I really can't stand her whiny ass
From what I understand, this chick doesn’t understand shit. Edit: I just can’t stop thinking about this and had to come back to add this. I’m sorry but she should be fucking sex trafficked and told “she can leave at any time” and see how she feels about it then? What an ignorant cunt. Edit 2: I was initially making a joke about how she kept saying “from what I understand”, that was all my initial intent was but I couldn’t stop thinking about how she kept saying (paraphrasing) “well they were told they could leave so what the problem?” I couldn’t believe someone could be so ignorant and stupid to the situation so I came back and make my edit. I didn’t reference the guy on the left but let me be clear he is also a cunt, probably an incel, Nice Guy and rapist himself, and the only way he’d understand what these woman went through is if he was sex trafficked as well. Fuck him.
I haven't really watched Pearl until late but she is surprisingly dense and smoothed brained . I don't understand how she has 1 million subscribers outside misogynistic men just wanting a woman to agree with their misogyny.
That's literally all she is, a token character that demonstrates women can be misogynistic too lol
I don’t know who any of these people are, I’ve never seen or heard of them in my entire life.
From left to right : Sneako- Popular Red Pill youtuber who got banned on almost all platforms for simulating sex with another youtuber ,and covid misinformation . Buddies with Andrew tate Destiny - Well known online debater/Gamer Justpearlythings - She has a Red Pill podcast just reaching over 1 million subs on youtube .
It wasn’t just simulating sex it was simulating rape towards YouTuber ChadChad. Mr beard does a really good video on Sneako: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XLkKqExUq58
You won't believe how many people think like that. I don't know if they just lack empathy and the ability to think about the situation from the victim's POV or because they're just that cruel. Sadly, there are even social workers, especially at shelters and safehouses who think like that. After numerous encounters with people who should know better asking me why I didn't just leave, I swore to myself that I'll never tell anyone i know IRL because hearing that just kills me.
Holy shit the misogyny in this comment. Sex trafficking is not a punishment for conservative women, even women who loudly project their internalized misogyny. That’s something you don’t wish on anyone.
Well she is basically calling these woman who have been trafficked liars and unable to comprehend their situation or even empathize with it. I find that morally repugnant. She is bending a narrative that “well they were told they could leave so it’s fine” into something that’s ok. When it’s in the charges that they were lied to about it and their passports were stolen. EVEN if you want to wait until the trial and proof is shown, fine, but this is just terrible to say and justify what happened to these women. My response was hyperbolic and indicating this girl is so dense she’d have to be literally in the same position as them to understand it. She’s a fucking selfish moron, or pandering to an audience which is worse. The guy on the left can go fuck himself too, I’m sure he’d rape someone without second thought if he already hasn’t. Over the last three years we have dealt with all sorts of denialism, racism, and stupidity from antivaxxers, racists, bigots, fundamentalists, GQP-ers and the like. I’m over treating them like humans nor do I have time to waste on their bullshit. It’s an issue of the paradox of tolerance, you can’t let the intolerant trick you to being tolerant of what they believe by playing the tolerance card. It’s backwards, and I believe in tolerance, but when someone is amoral and intolerant to what we deem as societal norms you have to stamp that out and in turn be intolerant of that otherwise it spreads. So like I said, fuck these two people idk the middle guy maybe he sucks too if so fuck him as well.
All of that is true, but none of this addresses the problem issues I have with your comment. Let me be clear: 1) you are using vile, sexist language (including misogynistic slurs) to refer to a woman you disagree with, and saying she deserves to be trafficked (absolutely nobody deserves that) 2) you didn’t even address the man
Ok, he’s a cunt too hopefully he gets sex trafficked because he deserves it. I fully understand and generally agree with your issues with what I said, but sometimes for people who defend truly reprehensible things or stand on top of their privilege shouting from the roof that what happened isn’t a big deal like these two troglodytes, the best and only way for them to understand is for it (or something related to it) to happen to themselves, ie Fuck around and find out and I have no sympathy for them if it does. Grooming your kids taking Christmas card pictures with semiautomatic weapons and taking opposing stances for *some* sort of gun regulation to stop kids from being murdered in school and posting Facebook memes and then whoops your kid gets murdered in school? Too bad. Thoughts and prayers. Post shitty COVID antivaxx “but 99.9% survival rates” etc. memes on Facebook and earn a r/hermancainaward ? Good, the shot was free and you died like an idiot. It’s all the same and I have no sympathy left for truly terrible people and these two are terrible.
You can disagree with someone without being a bigot about it. Wishing rape on someone else (even if you call it something else) is never acceptable. What the fuck is wrong with you?
I kinda think her trauma has fucked her up on all levels…
Oh look it’s the internets biggest pick me again trying to get picked.
Can I stop seeing Destiny's face on this subreddit? He and MrGirl were far too close for far too long for me to think this guy actually cares about women
She’s simping hard for a sex offender lol Edit: I didn’t watch the whole video before commenting, but holy shit, her story about how her dad would react?!? That’s complete bullshit and she knows it! Only reasonable person is the guy in the middle! The other two got Andrew Tate’s dick so far down their throats, truly sickening!
Sneako literally got cucked and pearly is a pick me who would be vilified by sneakos audience while also being disrespected by him on this stream.
Sneako got banned from twitch for his shit and Pearl has bought the fundy bullshit hook line and sinker - which means she’s going to end up in a loveless marriage cooking cleaning and caring for a useless spouse. Karma is good.
Why are yall so obsessed with blue hair guy lately? I get it, he "stands up to them" but if he was such a "stand up guy" he wouldnt hang out with them so often
yeah fr. he also hangs out with nick fuentes, a literal neonazi.
Wasn't he also pals with MrGirl for a long time? I know they don't like each other now, but mrgirl, on camera, admitted to raping a girl, as well as just having the most disgusting views I've ever seen. Destiny was fine with him until mrgirl started stalking him or something
yeah iirc. MrGirl is horrible
By "hangs out" do you mean "debates"? Those are not the same thing.
Fuentes went to Miami. Him and Destiny ate waffles and debated in person. Say what you will about the optics of engaging with someone like Nick but Destiny has stated many times they’re not friends.
I don’t share tables and meals with white supremacists. Even if I want to reach across the aisle. Dude is supporting a white supremacist, plain and simple!
Then you’ll never deradicalize people. It’s not really about getting to Fuentes, but rather his fanbase. Saying he’s supporting white supremacist is insane.
no like he and fuentes are budies. They hang out, and destiny doesn't really argue with him when he says stuff. His manifestos are also completely deranged.
I thought they debated in prison and destiny has said they aren’t friends? To me it seems like hes trying to do the “Daryl Davis approach” and is trying to deprogram him, although I could be wrong and completely open to new info!! Just to clarify!!.
from what ive seen not really. also, in prison? Destiny and Fuentes have just like. Casually hung out on stream with destiny not really pushing against fuentes when he says shit.
Have you seen their debates dude? Destiny doesn’t like Fuentes and almost everything he stands for lmao
Jesus fucking christ, no way? Ps. What a good neonazi surname he's got. FUENTES. Ffs...
Surprisingly, Neo-nazism is scarily present in the Hispanic world.
I know but isnt as bad as in other places, is all Im trying to say
I mean, besides the US, it's definitely in the running for second or third.
Source?
There was a pretty big National Socialist movement in Peru for a while (Movimiento Nacional Socialista Despierta Perú), a decently sized one in Chile (Movimiento Social Patriota), and numerous groups in Argentina. Also, just some underground online culture in general. You can't really provide a source for numerous hispanic 20 year-olds posting national socialist propoganda on random websites, because that's not exactly the type of stuff you save.
Yeah you named the ones I was expecting, and yeah youre right the vast majority are underground online alt right morons.
i think bc very extreme catholicism is prevalent, which correlates with neonazism.
Catholicism has the opposite effect, really. Catholicism like that had a much bigger influence in Spain. (The Carlists and the Falange during the Franco years). Catholicism in Latin America much more correlates to Liberation Theology.
honestly idk. I think maybe in the US its different then, bc I have definitely seen the link between Catholicism and white supremacist hispanics in the US.
His whole thing is debating. He’s around these people to dunk on them mainly.
Not really, he was good friends with Fuentes for quite a while, and platformed him very successfully.
He's not "good friends". That's just a lie.
They were seen hanging out and getting lunch lol
And were literally debating during that lunch.
I think there’s definitely an argument to be made that having someone like him dunking on these people is preferable to them being able to spout their bullshit without pushback. The debates kids watch are on TikTok and they look like this. Should we not debate these idiots? Their ideas won’t go away. Should we only debate them in old school college forums where none of the impressionable youth are watching?
Do you know destiny’s background? He’s brought tons of people out of the alt right pipe line by engaging in debate with these type of people. He debates with fact and reason, instead of just silencing them, which in turn makes their echo chamber even larger.
I can save her…
Nevermind I finished the video… she’s too far gone
funny how Destiny can debate two people at the same time and still win the debate lmao i would like to add i feel like when pearl is arguing with men she is kinda more "respectful" and not as fierce as she is with women i would say its because she loves putting women down and needs men to like her, she needs their attention and sneako what the fuck, what kind of evidence does he need, there are tons of videos about Tate himself teaching men how to manipulate women and sex trafficking... Tate could murder people before his own eyes and Sneako would still kiss his ass
Classic example of considering everything the perpetrator is saying is true, but disregarding what the accusers are saying and then using their skepticism of exclusively what the accusers are saying as proof that they're someone who carefully evaluates the "facts"
"If you could leave, I don't feel sorry for you" directing contempt to the person who is being abused instead of the abuser is always wild to me. It never crosses these peoples mind to say "how about you don't abuse/harm?"
Well, there’s one person with an IQ higher than room temperature (as a fellow redditor phrased it.).
Lmao. Pearl is not a feminist.
Destiny is the feminist in the middle. The ones on the outside are the tate fans
For clarification, the dude in the middle is the feminist and the two on the side are tate fans, yes the woman is a tate fan. I too was surprised to see a woman who is a Tate fan.
I’m so glad I have no idea who any of these people are. That chick is a moron.
Ok, sounds like this insane woman is not only delirious, but defending him. He was literally caught red handed and she’s like “let’s wait for the facts!” The facts are being published, victims have spoken out, there’s videos of what they were doing, I mean **how** **much** **evidence** does this woman need until she realizes her idol is a fucking monster?? Truly, it is sad how easily brainwashed people can be. I mean the man advocated controlling and abusing women and this chick is totally okay with it! I just don’t get it, she *is* a *woman*, she doesn’t realize she advocating for this stuff to be done to herself?!!! And the females she *cares* about! God I hope she doesn’t have kids or nieces or nephews. Edit: I wrote this at the beginning of the video. Those 2 are delirious!! Holy shit! They think the girls, who mind you weren’t free to leave and were watched by guards, decided to stay and sell themselves for the hell of it! Just, omg…… I guess I can understand why the dude on the left supports Tate, though it’s still really sad how easily manipulated he is by videos of big houses, hot women who were forced to look like they were “having fun”, nice clothes, and flashy cars. I mean I can see that the guy probably has little respect for women, or at least believes that women are okay with being treated so poorly. This video definitely made me lose a chunk of my faith in humanity. I mean the dude made **videos** on how to do the crimes he’s being **charged** with, and people are crying out about this being the matrix ensnaring Tate. My god, just thinking of it makes my head hurt!!
Mfw Destiny is the one that makes most sense
I think she's the only woman in the world that can't get dick, like this bitch tryna make dudes more aggressive everyday and then say it's all cool because it's our DNA, bitch stfu where yo dick and balls.
If this woman ever gets in a “situation” of DV or SA, I bet she’ll change her opinion. She has zero life experience.
Those two are real big brains. Holy shit
never thought id see the day where destiny somehow isnt the biggest dumbass in the room
Actually true
Everyone in this video is a massive POS, destiny is just a slightly smaller turd
Wait, are you implying Destiny as Tate fan?