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"Brevard County Florida school employees allegedly used a nylon rope to tie a mask on a female student with down syndrome who cannot speak. The student's father only found out when they forgot to remove it before sending her home one day. " Here is the whole video. Had enough yet?

"Brevard County Florida school employees allegedly used a nylon rope to tie a mask on a female student with down syndrome who cannot speak. The student's father only found out when they forgot to remove it before sending her home one day. " Here is the whole video. Had enough yet?

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pokegirl395

That child suffered child abuse and what happened was horrible but I already know anti-maskers are going to use this as evidence to why we shouldn’t wear masks.


OhSoYouWannaPlayHuh

People will use anything as evidence for anything as long as it reinforces their beliefs


RailAurai

And this goes for both sides. People forget that every side has trash people


Word-Bearer

All the evidence makes it seem like it’s consistent on one side though.


BrewtalDoom

Yeah, characterising as "both sides" doesn't work as well if it's 10 people on on one side and 1 on the other.


noahfarrell

If you’re talking about the side that blames unvaxxed people for the pandemic continuing this long, but we know regardless of vaccination you can catch and spread covid. Also cloth masks don’t do anything but stop you from spraying it not saying it. Get the shot if you want, don’t if you don’t, wear a mask if you like, or don’t. This is an illness we will just have to learn to live with


ExpressIce409

Imagine you are a doctor/researcher and after all that hard work put into making a vaccine to stop a global pandemic you see a guy on reddit say, ‘it’s just an illness we’ll have to learn to live with’


noahfarrell

No doctor thinks the vaccine is gonna 100% kill coronavirus. It’s a form of the cold virus that will continue to mutate, hopefully people get antibodies through the vaccine but they’ll get them either way wether they like it or not. Why doesn’t the flu shot stop the flu? It’s a virus, and while the shot helps mitigate risk of getting serious symptoms- it’s not a cure.


GregK724

your comment makes it seem like you are the trash on your side.


FuTiLeAttempts

You win the internet today for your clarity, great job.


biomech120

Evidence why you don’t give sweeping broad scope authority to those unfit and not elected.


c-lynn99

Yea. People in the dumbshit subreddit this was shared from are already saying those things and more. Gross. Fucking disgusting all of them


Puzzleheaded_Low_531

The "had enough yet" in the title of this post is clearly anti-mask rhetoric mate. This post is made by an anti masker as propaganda. I'm not sure how so many of you arent seeing it.


BrewtalDoom

A lot of posts here these days are just people coming in to push their (usually negative and hateful) agendas. It's usually screenshots of fake news articles, but unverified stories and claims made by people with clear agendas is also a popular one.


JoYac35

Honestly, this would work out better if school boards and governments just let the parents have control over their kids. If you feel safer with your children wearing masks, that’s fine. If you think your children will be ok without masks, that’s fine. There’s a point where it’s no longer about public safety and it becomes about control and politics.


TheBonesm

The problem with this is understanding how masks work. They don't offer any real protection to the person wearing the mask. What they do instead is protect others around you. This is because masks are meant to slow or trap water droplets that you exhale, each droplet possibly containing the coronavirus if the individual is infected. There's a lot of great videos on YouTube explaining how masks work, [here is the best](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tp0zB904Mc) that I found. So I do not feel safe wearing a mask, I feel safe if others around me are wearing a mask. Although this is mostly moot since I am fully vaccinated, it more so carries for unvaccinated individuals like children in schools. If you want to insure public safety, then everyone should be wearing a mask in schools.


JoYac35

Your safety is only my responsibility if I’m cooking food, holding a gun, driving a car, In a plane, stuff like that. I’m not responsible for whether or not you get sick.


TheBonesm

I was simply describing how to ensure public safety, not talking about individual responsibilities. That's a different argument. If you want to ensure public safety, then everyone should wear a mask.


KairuByte

I like to make pants analogies. Should the government be allowed to force me to wear pants? Should a private business be allowed to force me to wear pants? If a parent superglues pants onto a child, does that mean pants are bad and should not be forced? If a school suspends a child for taking off their pants, is it overreach? Should a state be allowed to make it illegal for a school to require children wear pants?


mum_puncher

Look at you talking about kids and pants you perv


KairuByte

Good god, wait till you find out I’ve *put pants on children*! The horror! I’ve dressed my children before! Moving on, come up with something original please.


dnjprod

Wait til they find out you also took them off!


mum_puncher

Yeah, you’ve got experience, we know. You’ve made that clear.


KairuByte

I ask for originality, you give me drivel.


mum_puncher

Yeah well, you get out what you put in


KairuByte

Now you’re just saying words in an order that sound like a sentence. That sentence makes literally zero sense in, or out of, context. Try harder my little trollie!


Solkre

I’m just going to stay home without pants.


dnjprod

Right? Like that wasn't thendchool board's fault for having for having mask mandate. It was then3 people at the school for being abusers.


grizz3782

Me personally, I've never seen any data that said mask work at all for coronavirus and if you have please send me the source.


Puzzleheaded_Low_531

Then you clearly havent even looked, there are dozens in varying size and scope including one huge one in the Philippines that compared transmission rates across hundreds of villages with varying degrees of mask etiquette. And shut up i dont need a response, i already know youre going to try to find some flaw in the methodology of any and all of them that allows you to not even consider it as if youre in any way qualified to peer review a fucking hot dog you gibbering moron. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w28734/w28734.pdf


ard15951

The guy you responded to didn’t say anything rude or aggressive and you were a jackass in response … also you hilariously linked a study that has nothing to do with mask efficacy… if you actually read that study it was focused on looking at what interventions increase mask wearing… it makes a vague reference about how much needs to be spent per life saved without really explaining where that data came from… all you did was help prove his point while making yourself look thoughtless… good work


Puzzleheaded_Low_531

The methods that increased mask usage also saw decreased case load in those regions. I dont give a fuck what a bunch of overgrown children think i look like, quit being a bitch and just wear a fucking mask indoors it's not complicated and deliberately obfuscating scientific consensus with bullshit claims like "I havent seen a single study" is harmful to public health. Not sorry I have a bad reaction to your ignorance leading to unnecessary deaths, you deserve far worse than my scorn.


ard15951

And you did it again… at least you’re consistent


Puzzleheaded_Low_531

Consistently sick of anti-mask morons, yeah. You're not worthy of respect.


ard15951

You’re a special boy


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C4_yrslf

He was rude but you lowered yourself to the same disrespect level


grizz3782

You're right!


Unidentifiable_Fear

What do you think motivated the entire school system to tie the mask to the child? Was it not the – wait for it… – fucking mask mandates that were voting in for “science”?


HeWhoMustNotBDpicted

What child abuse? She had to wear a mask like everyone else. That grand-standing shit-bag's exaggerations don't matter.


Squintz-_-1

She has a enlarged tongue wich makes her a mouth breather. Poor girls mask was soaked with spit making it hard for her to breathe. She can't talk. She is unable to say hey can I get another mask. Wear a mask or don't I really don't give 2 shits. U would feel different if u had kids let alone a special needs child.


HeWhoMustNotBDpicted

> She has a enlarged tongue wich makes her a mouth breather. Poor girls mask was soaked with spit making it hard for her to breathe. Bullshit. The mask covers both mouth and nose, so even if someone is a "mouth breather" they can breathe the same. This is typical anti-mask nonsense. > Wear a mask or don't I really don't give 2 shits. There it is. > U would feel different if u had kids let alone a special needs child. You wouldn't spout such ignorant nonsense if you had even half the common sense of my 4 children. Zero child abuse shown here.


Squintz-_-1

I got my shot.... I wear masks if in crowded setting.. funny how u make me out to be a anti masker. It's about the poor girl. Do your research on this child. May learn a thing or two. If u came home and found a mask tied to your child's head u can't tell me as a parent u wouldn't have a issue expecially if u have a special needs child. They don't know what's going on.....shit like that can scar a child already with issues


HeWhoMustNotBDpicted

You have no clue what you're talking about, and it shows. Zero child abuse shown here.


heidguy8

"Look at what they're having to put our children through! All for these damn masks that don't work anyway" blah blah, completely ignoring the fact that the ppl that did this are utterly incompetent and give 0 fucks about kids with or without a virus going on.


commiewoomie

r/Anarcho_Capitalism is full of anti maskers. I mean, that whole sub is just filled with scum.


ThePCG16

Lawsuit time... Seriously I don't care where you stand on masks this is child abuse


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this is so wrong on so many levels, i hope it gets solved and the poor girl gets her deserved payment for what has happened, and no i dont mean just money, just whatever it is that would pay her back.


jeffa_jaffa

This is why it’s so important that those who can wear masks do, to help keep safe those who can’t. This doesn’t show that mask mandates are a bad thing, it shows that people need to be more understanding of those who have a genuine reason not to wear them.


FrostyTiddies

Yes, those who downvote u are the problem


I_Tackle_Fat_Kids_

When does it end Covid is seasonal and will never go away, are we going to be masking up forever ?


jeffa_jaffa

Getting everyone vaccinated would go a long way to removing the need for masks, but unfortunately many of the people who refuse to wear masks also refuse to get vaccinated, so… ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


I_Tackle_Fat_Kids_

The vaccine doesn’t prevent the spread of covid tho just lowers the chances of getting any major complications. I’m no Anti vaxer but I really couldn’t care less if somebody doesn’t want the jab States like Florida which have had almost no mandates or restrictions are doing just as well against covid as the fully masked up locked down states 🤷‍♀️


Puzzleheaded_Low_531

It significantly reduces viral load which has a substantial impact on transmission. Masking, hand washing, and vaccination would reduce transmission to effectively zero. Fuck off with your misinformation.


I_Tackle_Fat_Kids_

Then how do you explain Florida doing just as well if not better then other states full of covid Karen’s like you. Stop being afraid


BishopMiles

Florida is in third for the most covid deaths in the country. Right behind the two most populated states California and Texas. Texas has roughly 8 million more people and California 18 million more people than Florida. Per capita Florida ranks 8th in deaths per 100,000. Florida is doing at best, better than 7 other states. Get out of here with your bullshit.


TheDrObiWan

Ok but for the record, Florida is number 3 in population. Roughly 2 million more than New York. New York, is 4th in deaths and 4th in population. Pennsylvania is 5th in deaths and 5th in population. It finally changes pattern here as Georgia is 6th in deaths, but 8th in population. Sources- https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ https://worldpopulationreview.com/states


BishopMiles

That is why I compared to per capita. Since January 21, 2020 Per 100,000 people there are 274 deaths in Florida Per 100,000 people there are 238 deaths in Texas Per 100,000 people there are 179 deaths in California Florida has a higher rate of covid death Per 100,000 people than California and Texas. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/index.html#cases_casesper100k


TheDrObiWan

That is a fair, well crafted argument. I must admit that. However, u also have to take into consideration other variables at play here. We all know as a person gets older, their chances for extreme problems from covid dramatically increases. By median age, California is the 9th youngest. Texas is the 4th youngest. Meanwhile, Florida is the 5th oldest. However, if I'm going to make this argument, I have to acknowledge that opening beaches fully, and letting young college kids come down for spring and summer break, put their older population at more risk. Leading to what I can assume to avoidable deaths. Even tho it helped their economy greatly. I'm sure we can both agree this whole covid situation sucks. Sources- https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/median-age-by-state https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/


Puzzleheaded_Low_531

I dont know how to explain the fantasy world you live in, i dont have a view that far up your ass.


I_Tackle_Fat_Kids_

Dude look at the stats it’s not hard


Puzzleheaded_Low_531

You're looking at made up numbers, florida does have it worse you fucking tool


I_Tackle_Fat_Kids_

No im not my guy


jeekley04

Hey buddyretard, got a question for ya, if masks are so useless, why have most Chinese people been wearing them for years prior to Covid when Covid wasn't even an issue?


I_Tackle_Fat_Kids_

And they still suffered huge casualties during covid ooopps Edit: do you want the west to be like China ? I sure as hell don’t


jeekley04

Yes..? They did..? That's not what I'm talking about. This is why people avoid conversing with Americans. China straight fucking lied about their Covid stats and causalities. I'm talking about the fact that that part of the planet is so badly polluted that in some areas of China people used masks to avoid breathing the awful air so carelessly, not that a fat yank would understand.


I_Tackle_Fat_Kids_

I talk about American politics but I’m not American myself I’m Australian So you are comparing pollution to covid interesting


C4_yrslf

Damn, I wish it was that simple. We're the first one to have vaccinated children and have one of the highest vaccination rates in the world. The government keeps pushing for worse restrictions and they keep giving false promises. Even though our numbers are incredibly low. It's only looking worse for us to be honest, and I agree with people leaving the province to head to other provinces.


Shavacadont

r/noahgetthedeathstar


NoImportance8904

I like how all the comments immediately went to defending mandates. I'm not an anti masker, but I don't think the school has the authority to forcibly put a mask on someone. That is child abuse, and certainly a step too far in regulation. We gotta draw a line.


Bustin_Jowers420

We agree, it's just that people will use this to argue against the mandates, and we need to flood the comments with, this is awful wtf is wrong with that school, but this doesn't mean masks are bad, it's the teachers that are bad, not masks.


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ExpressIce409

The only difference is not wearing a mask will lead to transmission of a virus which led to a global pandemic while not using a gun leads to less gun violence. The analogy you gave is the worst in the history of analogies.


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ExpressIce409

Those people are stupid, I agree.


C4_yrslf

I didn't see it like that, but damn it's pretty accurate


Iamamandamarie

Regardless of which side your on (mask vs unmasked /jab vs no jab), this is disgusting.


donorak7

Child suffered thats terrible and despicable. Don't make this about "illegal" mask mandates.


SnooMaps3021

What probability do I have not to smash their foreheads straight through the desk?


BK_Hazard

God damn it. This poor girl was abused because her family is not well supported and the school she goes to is most likely under equipped to address her special needs and now her plight will become fodder to be tossed around by anti-maskers because it’s far too politicized. This poor, unheard child. Systems broke, yo. All of it.


Cometarmagon

What happened to that little girl is fucking horrible. I hope the teachers/principle that did that get fired and rot in fucking hell.


Silentcrypt

The people in these comments who immediately ignored the fact that teachers TIED A FUCKING MASK USING ROPES ON AN AUTISTIC KIDS FACE FOR DAYS and jumped to “muh mandates!” are absolutely vile. If you can’t even put aside your love for authoritarianism long enough to recognize this is wrong then you are the ones who are radicalized. Noah just leave the boat and bring the flood.


Bruhurdumb

Authoritarianism= wearing masks. I am very smart.


Silentcrypt

Freedom = being forced against your will to do things for the 'protection' of other people via mandates. I am very smart. Crawl back under your bridge troll.


Bruhurdumb

So traffic laws are authoritarian? Interesting...


Silentcrypt

Why is it you low IQ bootlickers always resort to seatbelts and traffic laws? Is it because your walnut sized brains aren’t capable of nuance?


Bruhurdumb

Because it fits your description of authoritarianism perfectly. Government regulation =/= authoritarianism and it never has. Mask mandates are not government overreach the same way seat belts aren't government overreach. Both are regulations put in place to protect people from death and both take zero freedoms away from you.


Silentcrypt

But the government telling you that you can't kill unborn babies is authoritarian and fascist. Or banning CRT from schools. I mean, they're just regulations...


Bruhurdumb

The difference is that violates constitutional rights. Abortion bans violate medical privacy rights (thanks roe v Wade). What rights do mask mandates violate? Can you point me to the SCOTUS case?


Silentcrypt

So tying a mask using rope to an autistic child's head for days to the point they can barely breathe because the saliva build up DOESN'T violate their rights? Fuck you and your hypocrisy. You people are evil.


Bruhurdumb

You're a dumbass. I never said that. I said general mask mandates are not authoritarian, clearly whatever happened to this special needs person is horrible and wrong. Nice try twisting my words though.


Lady_Leaf

We have a kid in the school I work at who can't wear a mask. Instead of forcing him, the people who work with him wear extra gear in order to insure he dosen't get sick. We don't force him to wear a mask. That's wrong in so many ways. The point of the mask and the vaccine is to protect vulnerable people, like this child, from getting the virus from people who can wear masks and vaccinate. What those three people did was just horrible. They should have known better and if they didn't. Shame on the school board for not properly training them for children like this as well.


steffeeh

I have a colleague with an illness of which the vaccine will interfere with the medication, and so it is paramount that we other workers at our work place are vaccinated. Thankfully, all other employees and myself included are fully vaccinated, so this beloved colleague can go to work and feel at least a little bit safer, even though the risk isn't eliminated.


LanMega007

My god the comments here make the argument for "both sides are retarded!"


hunthell

There's stupid people everywhere and they all have their own beliefs. They are all closed minded fools.


radical_sin

Boomers are going to use this child as a face of anti-maskers and possibly even anti-vaxxers.


BadPom

I’m all for mask mandates, but this clearly should have been the “medical exemption” every entitled bitch claims at the grocery store. These antimaskers purposely did this to make a point, because assholes don’t care who they hurt to get their way.


kratodomi

Hahahahahaha “muh mandates”


I_Tackle_Fat_Kids_

Mask mandates that have nearly no impactful effect on the spread of covid. As we have seen from states with no mandates doing just as well as those with mandates and businesses restrictions.


Unlikely_Lemon_1878

I don’t know pretty much anything at all about down syndrome. How does that make it so she is unable to wear a mask? How would it negatively affect her health? Is down syndrome something that affects the lungs and it makes masks a serious health risk? Edit: Thank you for answering. I see why a mask would be such a problem. Also when I was asking about the masks I was in no way saying that what the school did was excusable for *anyone*


NoImportance8904

Down syndrome is when someone is born with an extra chromosome. A common side effect is intellectual disability, and behavioral problems, that progress overtime with puberty. They typically have a host of health problems, which limits their average lifespan to their early 30s, although they can live much longer.


A_Few_Mooses

Curious how long people are gonna suckle the teat of government and corporate that they hated just a year ago. We get it, you have a purpose now, you get to wear a mask and be a hero. ... or you live long enough to see yourself...


JoverKidd69420

Did you legitimately hit the return bar and type 6 periods in an attempt to create suspense? I don’t even give a shit about the argument but holy shit. …I like cock and ball torture… Ooh it is suspenseful


A_Few_Mooses

Just typed up 6 sentences. How did everyone go from hating government to enjoying every moment of having their nuts stepped on by a 78 year old dominatrix in high heels?


JoverKidd69420

Hey…don’t you kink shame me.


A_Few_Mooses

Right on man. Everybody's got their thang


JoverKidd69420

Hell yea brother


BrewtalDoom

If this story is true, then that's really not on. But how about not posting such a shitty video of some dude ranting about 'illegal mask mandates'? Oh, its because you're pushing the anti-vax agenda. Lame.


True_85

Most compassionate mandate supporter


Whatthefuzzybear

You fucking idiots believe this fuck? What is the specific "wrongdoing"? The kid was wearing a mask? Edit: this sub needs to be fucking flooded. The kid was only wearing a simple mask. It was with a "thin nylon string" mask. Masks are not a health hazard. [The article](https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-educators-tied-mask-student-face.amp).


True_85

No, it was tied to her head, soaked with saliva, and she had down syndrome. I guarantee if you had a child and they came home with a mask tied to their head with nylon fucking rope you wouldn't be saying "but muh guberment said wear a mask!!" Have some damn compassion you fucking neanderthal


Whatthefuzzybear

I am actually having a hard time believing this fucking idiot. It was [only a mask.](https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/father-of-downs-syndrome-child-says-mask-was-tied-around-his-daughters-head.amp). [Thin nylon string](https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-educators-tied-mask-student-face.amp) Masks are not a health hazard. The conclusion is that the kid was only wearing a mask(not a health hazard).


True_85

It doesn't matter that it was thin nylon string. What matters is that a bunch of adults tied a mask to a special needs child every day for 6 weeks. I'm fucking *appalled* that people can even think to try and justify this because "muh guberment said to put a mask on kids!!1!1!!"


Whatthefuzzybear

>bunch of adults tied a mask to a special needs child every day for 6 weeks. A mask is not a bad thing or a health hazard. In fact, it is actually beneficial especially against fighting the current pandemic.


True_85

I'm not say the mask is bad you fucking monkey. What's bad is that they tied it to a special needs child's fucking head you troglodyte. How in the fuck are you trying to justify that? A bunch of adults that this child is supposed to trust tied a mask to her head with rope. How in the fuck can you hear that and go "yep, this is ok"?


Whatthefuzzybear

>they tied it to a special needs child's fucking head Masks are put on the head. Obviously. What is the "bad" thing here? The mask was tied to her head? Technically, a mask should be tied to your head. >with rope You did not read the article. It said "thin nylon string". Are you triggered because you can't read past the headline?


Alt_aholic

I mean, I tore my shoe in 5th grade and they taped it onto my foot with duct tape so I could get on the bus home... what's the big deal? It kind of seems like a logical aid for someone who might otherwise have trouble keeping a mask on.


give_em_hell_kid

If you can't see the difference between your situation and this little girls, you have a very serious problem that you should probably talk to someone about.


Alt_aholic

Why would I listen to an anti masker?


Samma_FTW

This has nothing to do with being antimask. And everything to do with why others should wear a mask because due to her disability, a mask isn't beneficial to her. How can you watch the whole video and not realize what's wrong with this??? And equivilating taping a shoe to someone's foot vs someone who struggles with a mental and physical disability is out right disgusting. I honestly can't believe how poorly educated people are it's extremely infuriating.


True_85

Because you just said what's the big deal over tying a mask to the face of a girl with down syndrome you fucking troglodyte.


VonLorin

I remember having to pee and being duct taped to a chair and forced to piss myself in front of class. Weekly.


chocpillow

Yeah sure


Mo622

Can we please give a big round of applause for the man speaking in this video?


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xDidddle

They Can't, medical reasons. They said it in the video


steffeeh

I happily vaccinate myself and wear a mask so that people who have a real medical reason to not get vaccinated or wear a mask can still feel at least a little bit safer. This kid is among those people who should inspire us healthy individuals to do our part and get the vaccine and wear a mask, so that they are safer than if we were not to do our part.