Listen, I'm not a doctor nor a biologist so I can't tell what's good or bad for you.
But in my opinion, you're better off not doing what you're addicted to, and imo fapping is a lazy thing to do
Achieving a wife/gf is an examplem
I mean, good point I guess,
But for me personally, masturbation in particular feels like i did something guilty and devastating?
Also about very elder people, some elders have turned off sex drive, for example 90's year old men right? Since your body degrades after reaching 40+.
Physical sex definitely outranks masturbation generally
Obviously there are exceptions
However, the effort often gives things value
And the lack of effort masturbation tends to akin, compared to that of engaging in sex with another human being leads it to be ‘higher up the ranks’
Furthermore, it is a lot less likely to have a sex addiction compared to a masturbation addiction, again, because the effort needed for sex often is a lot higher and thus more difficult than for masturbation
I get you’re picking on exceptions and trying to make a ‘it’s not so simple argument’. So, I’ve decided to generalize it and pick very simple concepts. Effort often transforms to value, and less effort for dopamine often transform easier addiction
P is certainly bad for you. I have never seen a study showing that watching other people, and scrolling through thousands and naked images is healthy in any form.
M might come from natural urges because that is literally activates an action to maintain offspring and survival of your genes. However addiction and impulsive action everytime you feel bored or depressed is a bad outlet, and it would be more benificial to be doing something else.
If your e.g. religious beliefs don't see it as a sin, or you see it as gross or disgusting in any other way, then you're gonna feel guilty every time you do it, which will overshadow any positive effects you could have gotten.
It just feels soo "relaxing" BUT i feel guilty every time I do it, im trying to find a way to end this, and i sometimes touch myself for like, 10 seconds, then i stop and do something that erases my boredness
Well, the Christian belief is usually that that guilt your concince convicting you, telling you that something is wrong or harmful.
Sometimes, your concince can be influenced by the world and thus not accurate, but listening to mine has literally saved a life and done some other good stuff.
Even if you aren't religious or don't believe masturbation is wrong, it and porn can have some nasty effects, taking hours out of your day, teaching you to objectify people, and desensitizing you to sex, making it harder to enjoy it. Plus, it can be as addictive as drugs or alcohol.
It doesn't want to appear bruh, also, if i do IT before February, i will only have 334 days if i keep everything up until next year, and 356 days if i didnt do IT until next year
Yea, there are studies that say it helps prevent prostate cancer, and getting rid of old sperm is good jf you don't want to wake up to a wet blanket. Porn is just bad because it sets up unrealistic expectations.
If you're not addicted to it, yea. One can say whether coffee is healthy. If you consume it moderately, yea. Too much, no. In life, overconsumption of goods or bads is not great.
You have to understand that the porn industry is a billion if not trillion dollar industry and they pay a lot to spread propaganda and misinformation about masturbation and pornography. Any site or article that says these things are healthy and benefitial, chances are that they are being funded by the industry
If you feeling guilty, see that as losing part of your soul, it takes away what useful energy you had that could’ve been put into something productive. Playing with yourself is unproductive
I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with whether it is healthy or not, but I agree with your statement. Just because something is normal doesn’t make it healthy, very good point.
I honestly have no idea, any article you find about it was potentially funded by porn companies because people believing masturbation is good for you benefits their business. Some studies may be unbiased but it’s difficult too tell which makes a conclusive answer difficult to find.
It's absolutely insane to me that people think it's a good thing, exploiting your biological sexual desires to make yourself feel good is not natural at all. We have these desires and sexual functions for a reason and it's not to be alone simulating the sex organs of another person.
Nope. Semen retention is a hoax, so you don't have to worry about that, and it's unhealthy simply because of how instant gratification works. Not masturbating will help you have more motivation.
I think PMO is the main problem, wires your brain to want/need certain stimuli for arousal. And that stimuli is different to what happens in the real world. What is a healthy amount of non porn masturbation? Not sure. Is masturbation while thinking about porn/porn inspired fantasies much better?
I’m not a medical professional by any measure, but fapping seems like cheap dopamine for lazy people with very short time preferences. And, in an age where sexualized media seems to permeate all of society, even occasional masturbation can quickly turn into an addiction to fapping and watching porn.
This has been a growing problem for years, with about 20% of adults in the US regularly watching porn and most men/women (98% & 73% respectively) watching porn in the last six months.
Human beings are better off spending their time investing in themselves by reading, exercising, eating healthy, building relationships with friends/family, traveling and developing skills that enable one to build wealth and come to some level of self-sufficiency.
I don’t think of it in terms of healthy vs unhealthy, but more in terms of mature vs immature - maybe when you’re first discovering your body it’s okay, but eventually, biologically, you are supposed to seek a woman to reproduce with, so it’s not really useful for a mature man.
There may be potential health benefits, but no matter what they are, they will be drastically overshadowed by the immeasurable damage that addiction will cause to your brain
Honestly it does actually have health benefits especially for older men it helps with prostate cancer fapping like once a week I believe. I could be a bit off so look it up.
Listen, I'm not a doctor nor a biologist so I can't tell what's good or bad for you. But in my opinion, you're better off not doing what you're addicted to, and imo fapping is a lazy thing to do Achieving a wife/gf is an examplem
*example of a good thing
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Achieve = earn = hard work What I meant is to do the hard work and get yourself a good relationship, If it sounds hard for you to understand.
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Let's just simply say, the real thing > masturbation. No one disagrees, since it doesn't revolve around Fantasies and so on.
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Taking the small exception and applying it to the norm does t make it mainstream or applicable to the norm
I mean, good point I guess, But for me personally, masturbation in particular feels like i did something guilty and devastating? Also about very elder people, some elders have turned off sex drive, for example 90's year old men right? Since your body degrades after reaching 40+.
Physical sex definitely outranks masturbation generally Obviously there are exceptions However, the effort often gives things value And the lack of effort masturbation tends to akin, compared to that of engaging in sex with another human being leads it to be ‘higher up the ranks’ Furthermore, it is a lot less likely to have a sex addiction compared to a masturbation addiction, again, because the effort needed for sex often is a lot higher and thus more difficult than for masturbation I get you’re picking on exceptions and trying to make a ‘it’s not so simple argument’. So, I’ve decided to generalize it and pick very simple concepts. Effort often transforms to value, and less effort for dopamine often transform easier addiction
P is certainly bad for you. I have never seen a study showing that watching other people, and scrolling through thousands and naked images is healthy in any form. M might come from natural urges because that is literally activates an action to maintain offspring and survival of your genes. However addiction and impulsive action everytime you feel bored or depressed is a bad outlet, and it would be more benificial to be doing something else.
If you have no moral standpoint against masturbation, it is healthy in small amounts.
What moral standpoint
If your e.g. religious beliefs don't see it as a sin, or you see it as gross or disgusting in any other way, then you're gonna feel guilty every time you do it, which will overshadow any positive effects you could have gotten.
It just feels soo "relaxing" BUT i feel guilty every time I do it, im trying to find a way to end this, and i sometimes touch myself for like, 10 seconds, then i stop and do something that erases my boredness
In this case it would be better for you if you cut masturbation too. But it's up to you to decide.
Well, the Christian belief is usually that that guilt your concince convicting you, telling you that something is wrong or harmful. Sometimes, your concince can be influenced by the world and thus not accurate, but listening to mine has literally saved a life and done some other good stuff. Even if you aren't religious or don't believe masturbation is wrong, it and porn can have some nasty effects, taking hours out of your day, teaching you to objectify people, and desensitizing you to sex, making it harder to enjoy it. Plus, it can be as addictive as drugs or alcohol.
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,,In this case the best option for you would be to cut masturbation entirely. But it's up to you to decide."
It doesn't want to appear bruh, also, if i do IT before February, i will only have 334 days if i keep everything up until next year, and 356 days if i didnt do IT until next year
I dont see any good idea if i do IT before February, because i can have 22 days till February if i keep it up
If you’re addicted, stop completely. If you not, then you can keep doing it if you want to, but it will dampen any future sexual experience.
I would say it’s fine occasionally but do NOT combine with porn
Yea, there are studies that say it helps prevent prostate cancer, and getting rid of old sperm is good jf you don't want to wake up to a wet blanket. Porn is just bad because it sets up unrealistic expectations.
Idk whether it’s healthy or not but one thing is having an addiction or constantly fapping is definitely unhealthy
If I being honest I don’t think anyone actually known being it all mysterious Same with nofap
If you're not addicted to it, yea. One can say whether coffee is healthy. If you consume it moderately, yea. Too much, no. In life, overconsumption of goods or bads is not great.
You have to understand that the porn industry is a billion if not trillion dollar industry and they pay a lot to spread propaganda and misinformation about masturbation and pornography. Any site or article that says these things are healthy and benefitial, chances are that they are being funded by the industry
If you feeling guilty, see that as losing part of your soul, it takes away what useful energy you had that could’ve been put into something productive. Playing with yourself is unproductive
In my opinion is bad , not fapping have a lot benefits e.g is good for testosterone and have more confidence with yourself
I say it may be normal to us humans and animals, but I'll say it's not healthy.
I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with whether it is healthy or not, but I agree with your statement. Just because something is normal doesn’t make it healthy, very good point.
I agree with your reply. I mainly post nofap content, try checking it out
I honestly have no idea, any article you find about it was potentially funded by porn companies because people believing masturbation is good for you benefits their business. Some studies may be unbiased but it’s difficult too tell which makes a conclusive answer difficult to find.
It's absolutely insane to me that people think it's a good thing, exploiting your biological sexual desires to make yourself feel good is not natural at all. We have these desires and sexual functions for a reason and it's not to be alone simulating the sex organs of another person.
Nope for me it's propaganda that's it but up to You with what do you do believe it.
There's science.
Science is really just “mans best guess as of now”. It’s been wrong countless times and often changes.
how else are they gonna sell you antidepressants ?
No i think it's not healthy maybe they got paid by a porn director stuff we don't know my opinion but i guess its just propaganda stuff
Not even a 1%
Good in moderation but bad when it interferes with daily life that why we are here In this subreddit
Nope. Semen retention is a hoax, so you don't have to worry about that, and it's unhealthy simply because of how instant gratification works. Not masturbating will help you have more motivation.
No wonder i get lazy playing games last year
I didn't say it was an instant cure all, I said it would HELP. Obviously you're not gonna be motivated if nofap is the ONLY method you use
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How can you prove that
You can prove it to yourself. How do you feel after? Good? Great! Bad? Stop.
I think PMO is the main problem, wires your brain to want/need certain stimuli for arousal. And that stimuli is different to what happens in the real world. What is a healthy amount of non porn masturbation? Not sure. Is masturbation while thinking about porn/porn inspired fantasies much better?
Friend...... No!
I’m not a medical professional by any measure, but fapping seems like cheap dopamine for lazy people with very short time preferences. And, in an age where sexualized media seems to permeate all of society, even occasional masturbation can quickly turn into an addiction to fapping and watching porn. This has been a growing problem for years, with about 20% of adults in the US regularly watching porn and most men/women (98% & 73% respectively) watching porn in the last six months. Human beings are better off spending their time investing in themselves by reading, exercising, eating healthy, building relationships with friends/family, traveling and developing skills that enable one to build wealth and come to some level of self-sufficiency.
It’s horrible for you your mental health and dopamine levels skyrocket then tank and the level goes lower abs lower and lower
I don’t think of it in terms of healthy vs unhealthy, but more in terms of mature vs immature - maybe when you’re first discovering your body it’s okay, but eventually, biologically, you are supposed to seek a woman to reproduce with, so it’s not really useful for a mature man.
There may be potential health benefits, but no matter what they are, they will be drastically overshadowed by the immeasurable damage that addiction will cause to your brain
Yes. But fapping with porn is a no no.
Honestly it does actually have health benefits especially for older men it helps with prostate cancer fapping like once a week I believe. I could be a bit off so look it up.