UPDATE: Most voters will be happy with making the Postseason and better
By - Brained07
After nearly 50 years as a Mets fan, I consider any season that concludes with a new banner being put up on the wall - even a Wild Card banner - to have been a successful one. I saw 1986 (I was a 21 year old college senior) so I have my championship memories.
But in those 50 years, I’ve only seen them make the postseason 8 times. That’s a lot of dark TV screens in October.
I feel like it's hard to answer a poll like this because the circumstances of the outcome are so important. If they go down in the NLCS or WS but put up an incredibly fight, I'd be really proud of the boys still. If they blow it in embarrassing fashion then I'd probably feel very differently.
I was super proud of them for the way they went out in 2019, even though they didnt even make the playoffs, for example
I will be hyped if we qualify for the playoffs, but at the same time I will be crushed if we lose any of the following series after that. So I guess that would put me in the “World Series” group lol
Love the modesty of our fan base. I bet if you took this poill at the beginning of the season, a winning season would be the highest voted. I am glad to see that we are at a point that this is our division to lose and we should have expectations for the Mets to win the NL East this year. anything extra is money.
Our core is still relatively young. All under 30. Making the post season Steve’s first year is a great goal. Then add on in the offseason and make a Cubs type push next year
WS or bust
This has to be the mindset every single year and it’s the one Steve is trying for. Being happy with just a playoff berth is sad
I think you’re close but this isn’t quite it IMO.
If you look at the Dodgers of recent years, they’ve been a favorite every year, and they go to the playoffs all the time. They only won last year, but that doesn’t make them “failures” the other years, and it’s silly for their fans to be sad if they don’t win the championship every year. My point is, you have to evaluate those years as a chunk. Really good teams, all they can do is put themselves in serious contention year after year. *Even if you do that, you will still usually fail.* See the Braves of the ‘90s and ‘00s as well. Once you get to that level, you still have to get through the other teams that are on that level, as well as the dark horse teams who had everything line up for them at exactly the right time.
Hopefully this year where we lead the division and (hopefully) make the playoffs despite having SO MANY things go wrong is the beginning of one of those runs. It often feels like we have the guys to go deep into the playoffs, but generally it feels more like we’re one of those teams that needs the planets align for good things to happen as opposed to one of those teams that’s expected to win. Hopefully the new ownership changes that.
Hanging up wild card banners are even sadder
Jeeeez, a playoff berth is not good enough lol...while it wouldn’t be an utter disaster, being happy with just a playoff berth is not where this team should be.
For me, the key to low stress as a sports fan is to not expect much. You can want it all, but temper expectations. That way you get to enjoy when good things happen, but you don't feel too let down when bad things happen. Cause you were merely hoping for a possibility, not expecting an outcome.
I personally would like a division win cause I don't want the stress of a WC game. Everything after that is gravy. I do believe this team can win it all this year though.
The division should be our goal and expectation every single year. We have an owner who wants to go for it every single year. Playoff berths are just not good enough. Most fans still have that wilpon mindset so it’s understandable.
>Most fans still have that wilpon mindset so it’s understandable
Ah yes, the fanbase that regularly wished for the Wilpons to be in a helicopter that crashed into the side of a building, are definitely well known for being major adherents to Wilpon ideology
It has nothing to do with the Wilpons for me. I'm simply not setting the bar at WS or bust. I don't need that kind of stress every time they're on the brink of elimination. I rather sit back and enjoy the ride. Even if the team won 2 WS in a row and won 100+ games in year 3 and were dominating, I still wouldn't set WS #3 as my expectation.
I think the key thing is that you can't really control what happens once you get in the playoffs because they're a crapshoot. Just put the best team you can out there and hope for the best.
The whole question is flawed IMO, because if the Mets win the division and lose in the first round, that doesn't mean they failed in the attempt at team-building.
But if they missed the playoffs then they would have.
So it's a little pointless to ask people if they would be critical of a Mets team based on what level they got to. It should be a binary question IMO (made it or didn't make it) and what happens after that is gravy.
If they made it 7 years in a row or something like that, I'd be in heaven, regardless of what happened in the playoffs.
Well we haven’t been since 2016, so getting there would be an improvement from the last few years. Plus, it’s only year 1 of the Cohen ownership, so we gotta build up
And no Mets fan should’ve been “happy” in 2016 coming away with just a wildcard berth. This roster is talented. The organization is shooting for a WS, not winning the NL East. Is that a nice accomplishment? Of course, but there is much more to be desired.
I'm happy that I get to watch my favorite team play baseball. It's fun. People should try to enjoy it more.
Obviously we want the World Series, ut just making it after a 5 year absence is a good start
5 year absence stuff is bs just like the 5 year timeline that Steve said. If the team is talented enough to win right now, then what the hell are we talking about?
We can get lucky to win the WS, but lets face it we are not talented enough to win it outright blow for blow. Now that is the beauty of sports we can have a hot few weeks and win the WS if we get in, but this team is not pound for pound a team built to win the WS. We have pieces that give us a chance, but we have not "failed" if we don't win this year because that would be a pretty good result for this team as currently constituted.
100% you’re right it’s not a failure if we don’t win the WS, it’s a very tough task. But I do disagree about not being built for a WS. They absolutely constructed this roster to go the distance. If our pitching is healthy, we absolutely have a shot. They are shooting for the whole damn thing, which is why we should not be “happy” with a measly playoff berth.
If we had Thor and Cookie healthy and productive sure but that isn’t the team we have and even that team would have to win a couple uphill series to pull off a WS. This is a good team but it has some pretty significant weaknesses too, this is the first year of this FO and no it isn’t a disappointment if they fall short. Making the playoffs especially winning the division is a pretty big deal I will definitely consider this year successful if they pull that off. Will I be unhappy if they lose sure but after I get over it I will be pretty happy with the season
U do not not need 5 great starters for a postseason run nor do teams even use 5 starters lol. Jake Stro Walker is pretty fucking good to start it off, plus they’re going to add. U reek of Wilpon era thoughts. Making the playoffs should be our expectation every single year at the minimum.
Yes it should but I will enjoy that playoff win overall
NL East win and NLCS would make me happy this year. If we’re healthy we shouldn’t expect anything less than that
You only get to the World Series by making the postseason. I don't want our season to end short but I'm in the "Get to the postseason, then we'll see who's still in one piece" camp