[Hoch] Re: The IKF bunt, Kiner-Falefa said that the Yankees’ scouting report said Kutter Crawford has had issues throwing to bases. The intent was to have Crawford throw the ball away and spark a rally.
Yes :(. Analytics shouldn’t lead baseball. You take in the baseball situation (Stanton, slow on first; pitcher; IKF singles hitter etc) examine your options and THEN look at analytics to see if it can provide any additional insight. “He throws the ball away more than the average player” is nothing.
Beyond logic, I have tried to stay optimistic over the last few weeks but the more that comes out about the org and how they approach things just makes it SO difficult.
they were hoping Crawford would make an error throwing the baseball so that super speedy speedster Stanton would make it to third and then theyd have runners on the corners no outs and could GIDP
amazing
One of the 3 semi-competent hitters on our roster and our solution was to have him bunt in hopes of a rally by having STANTON run? Crawford could have thrown the ball to the wall in the outfield, Stanton wasn't making it to third let alone scoring. What a clown show.
Exactly. And how many runs has this team scored in the past week?
And they are down QUICK (again, I might add, AND by a .190 hitter launching a grand slam against your ace) and the strategy is to BUNT?
This is as good as bringing in Nick Ramirez in Colorado in a hard fought game that even then they NEEDED to win…but lost.
How many bad decisions until Hal realizes “the script” is BAD.
I guess if he keeps Cashman then we know. All the bad decisions stem from HIS bad decisions.
This is very telling of the team mentality right now. Hoping the guy makes a big mistake to spark a rally means that there is no confidence in their own bats. They don’t believe that they can string hits together as a team.
Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide, no escape from reality
Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see
I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy
Because I'm easy come, easy go, little high, little low
Any way the wind blows doesn't really matter to me, to me...
This is a weird thread for the anti-math people to jump in lmao.
This... isn't analytics, or at least not what people are referring to when they cite analytics. This is just boomer scouting.
Y’know even if this works as well as you can imagine and everyone is safe. Us scoring from 1st and 2nd no outs is what, a 50/50 proposition?
Especially with Bader / Greg Allen/ volpe/ rordvedt coming up? That’s one run MAX.
That’s not even analytics, that’s just straight up dumb. Banking on the other team making a mistake because your players can’t deliver is a pretty bad message to send.
Well this is the saddest thing I've seen all season. This tops the 9th inning collapse against Miami and every miserable loss to a dog shit team. This is just explaining the Yankees strategy for scoring runs is to rely on fielders committing errors lmao oh my god this is brutal
Kutter only has 2 errors all year, so the "justification" sounds more like a lie - or at most ridiculous misuse of something casually mentioned by the scouts - than analytics. Kutter only had 3 errors all of last year.
Same scouts who only care about Velo/Launch Angle/Walks...
Batting tees...nope...K's, who cares..Seeing eye hits- penalized
Yanks org is complete garbage from top to bottom..here are the results
Cashman’s “Analytics” consist of a game plan that involves bunting to a player that has a 95% chance of making the play and hoping that’s what gets the entire offense going? lmfao.
BIG BRAIN stuff.
Rally???? Rortvedt (4 for 41) was up next. If anyone should have tried it with the score 6-0 in the third (lol), Rortvedt should have. Also, the pitcher has only 2 errors all year so WTF. How can you have problems throwing to bases and 2 errors all year?
With that quote earning him an extra decade in pinstripes courtesy of Cashman and the stockholm syndrome he's given the fanbase, IKF just cemented his place in Monument Park.
Can't wait for the IKF managing era once Boone retires.
I'm confused. that bunt was one of the dumbest baseball plays i've ever seen. so was he told to do it or is he one of the dumbest players in all of baseball?
See working in baseball analytics works in other cities cause that’s a desirable job. Best analytics guys in NYC make more than Boone at their hedge funds. That’s the only rationale I have left as to why we can’t hire a competent staff 😂
I want to play poker with the guys on this analytics team.
They’d be holding a 3 of a kind assuming there’s still a chance for the 4th on the river, totally missing the fact that there’s 4 cards suited on the flop and turn.
This shit is the equivalent of the Giants taking a knee on 3rd down cause they were deep in their own territory and the coaching staff KNEW there was no hope.
Yankees have the worst analytics/scouting in mlb
I imagine you saying this like George Bluth when he puts his head down and says he has the worst fucking lawyers
You can’t arrest a husband and wife…for the same crime!
Yankees analytics team: https://media.giphy.com/media/pFwRzOLfuGHok/giphy.gif
It's a literal clown show
Clowns are scary. This is scarier.
Those can at least be funny sometimes.
"What's your strategy?" "Hope the other team is bad at baseball"
It works for everyone who plays us
"We don't practice fundamentals so we figured they wouldn't"
The other team is usually worse at baseball, worse than the numbers show. They’ve all been worse through most of the season. -Aaron Boone, probably
“Our internal numbers show that we’re actually the best team in baseball. Why is everyone so mad?”
Seems kind of like a dumb thing to rely on, lol
So, now they’re relying on luck.
Nah it's the analytics. The guys fielding percentage is probably 0.945 so clearly there's a 5.5% chance he would have made an error. #bigbrain
This is a microcosm of everything wrong with the team. Instead of playing baseball our analytics people rely on luck.
Yes :(. Analytics shouldn’t lead baseball. You take in the baseball situation (Stanton, slow on first; pitcher; IKF singles hitter etc) examine your options and THEN look at analytics to see if it can provide any additional insight. “He throws the ball away more than the average player” is nothing.
Luck and hypotheticals
Analytics don’t support bunting. This is just foolishness.
Yeah I don't even think this team does analytics anymore. They just pull random bullshit out of their rear ends.
Stanton was on first. Crawford could have taken the ball and briskly walked to second to get Stanton out.
A real chad would have tumble rolled all the way there.
Beyond logic, I have tried to stay optimistic over the last few weeks but the more that comes out about the org and how they approach things just makes it SO difficult.
I wish I hadn’t even read this
they were hoping Crawford would make an error throwing the baseball so that super speedy speedster Stanton would make it to third and then theyd have runners on the corners no outs and could GIDP amazing
Yankees have zero players with 20 or more doubles. And don’t tell me it’s the park because guys like cano use to hit doubles all over the place
Andujar had 47 in 2018
Pour one out for Miggy 2 Bags .. good times
Most of the players are slower than a Roomba.
Cano was a fucking doubles machine.
Two things can be true. it's the hardest park to hit doubles in in MLB *and* we have players who can't hit and are slow.
Man I miss Cano’s swing, that dude could barrel up any pitch
Wtf kind of scouting is that
That's the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. WHAT!?
If anyone else needs more proof that this team has zero fucken idea how to use analytics.
How about instead of getting cute, we just HIT THE FUCKING BALL IN PLAY.
so now they are hoping the other team ...is bad..? Omg.
aNaLyTiCs
Can this team stop demoralizing me for three goddamn seconds
Tricky, bush-league plays are a good sign your team has low fundamentals... I rest my case, your honor...
One of the 3 semi-competent hitters on our roster and our solution was to have him bunt in hopes of a rally by having STANTON run? Crawford could have thrown the ball to the wall in the outfield, Stanton wasn't making it to third let alone scoring. What a clown show.
Exactly. And how many runs has this team scored in the past week? And they are down QUICK (again, I might add, AND by a .190 hitter launching a grand slam against your ace) and the strategy is to BUNT? This is as good as bringing in Nick Ramirez in Colorado in a hard fought game that even then they NEEDED to win…but lost. How many bad decisions until Hal realizes “the script” is BAD. I guess if he keeps Cashman then we know. All the bad decisions stem from HIS bad decisions.
I would like a spark in the general vicinity of a gas can and our organizational philosophy.
i wish i could get 6M to suck at my job
Everything always keeps pointing to Cashman
LOL This organization is a joke! Fire Cashman NOW.
Fuck you Cashman
This is very telling of the team mentality right now. Hoping the guy makes a big mistake to spark a rally means that there is no confidence in their own bats. They don’t believe that they can string hits together as a team.
To be fair, they've been watching this team all year too.
Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide, no escape from reality Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy Because I'm easy come, easy go, little high, little low Any way the wind blows doesn't really matter to me, to me...
You know what would have started a rally? Getting a regular old single.
How the fuck can your game plan be to hope the other team makes an error?
funny thing: i had that in my reddit scouting report from last year.
Nobody hits on this team. Again, nobody hits on this team.
Sounds like a Jon Lester strategy
This is a weird thread for the anti-math people to jump in lmao. This... isn't analytics, or at least not what people are referring to when they cite analytics. This is just boomer scouting.
"We're hoping to hit a pop up in this scenario as we've heard the second baseman often loses balls in the sun."
I’m embarrassed
Y’know even if this works as well as you can imagine and everyone is safe. Us scoring from 1st and 2nd no outs is what, a 50/50 proposition? Especially with Bader / Greg Allen/ volpe/ rordvedt coming up? That’s one run MAX.
LMAO!!!! I almost spat out my drink reading this 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s not even analytics, that’s just straight up dumb. Banking on the other team making a mistake because your players can’t deliver is a pretty bad message to send.
Also known as the Wile E Coyote style of baseball planning.
Why would he say this out loud, in front of reporters?
And…Judge is playing with a torn ligament. Genius.
Well this is the saddest thing I've seen all season. This tops the 9th inning collapse against Miami and every miserable loss to a dog shit team. This is just explaining the Yankees strategy for scoring runs is to rely on fielders committing errors lmao oh my god this is brutal
Braindead
Honestly the Yankees seem so steeped in analytics that sometimes it feels like they aren’t even playing baseball
Kutter only has 2 errors all year, so the "justification" sounds more like a lie - or at most ridiculous misuse of something casually mentioned by the scouts - than analytics. Kutter only had 3 errors all of last year.
Bruh lmao
Crawford’s fielding percentage is .875%. IKF is hitting .257
add those together and you get a whole lotta nothin'!!
How do you pop up a bunt?! The literal opposite of the intended outcome.
Yanks analytic department is trash and has been for a few years now.
Same scouts who only care about Velo/Launch Angle/Walks... Batting tees...nope...K's, who cares..Seeing eye hits- penalized Yanks org is complete garbage from top to bottom..here are the results
Great game … great game…. Just sayin’
260 ms and the strategy is hope a pro ball player throws away a bunt
What we lost again ?
Ohhhh, so we’re being cute now as a strategy.
Cashman’s “Analytics” consist of a game plan that involves bunting to a player that has a 95% chance of making the play and hoping that’s what gets the entire offense going? lmfao. BIG BRAIN stuff.
I thought Yankees analytics want to remove luck?
You know whats a good stat. Its simple really for the pros. Watch ball. Hit ball. Run base. Score. Its really that simple folks.
Rally???? Rortvedt (4 for 41) was up next. If anyone should have tried it with the score 6-0 in the third (lol), Rortvedt should have. Also, the pitcher has only 2 errors all year so WTF. How can you have problems throwing to bases and 2 errors all year?
That’s where we are. Banking on errors.
I stopped watching for weeks now, but Yanks would need a pitcher to throw the ball away nonstop for Yanks to score runs nowadays.
With that quote earning him an extra decade in pinstripes courtesy of Cashman and the stockholm syndrome he's given the fanbase, IKF just cemented his place in Monument Park. Can't wait for the IKF managing era once Boone retires.
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Is this a new copypasta? Second time I’ve seen this
Sounds like a Michael Kay hot mic.
“Hope isn’t a strategy.”
I'm confused. that bunt was one of the dumbest baseball plays i've ever seen. so was he told to do it or is he one of the dumbest players in all of baseball?
Talk about overthinking it. Team's desperate.
Still hearing Jomboy's voice in my head, "JUST BE NORMAL"
It was almost as bad as when they brought in Stanton to pinch hit. The showed a stat he was like 2-32 when pinch hitting.
See working in baseball analytics works in other cities cause that’s a desirable job. Best analytics guys in NYC make more than Boone at their hedge funds. That’s the only rationale I have left as to why we can’t hire a competent staff 😂
They were just going to keep bunting their way to another 6 runs lmao
Lol this team is a non stop clown show
I want to play poker with the guys on this analytics team. They’d be holding a 3 of a kind assuming there’s still a chance for the 4th on the river, totally missing the fact that there’s 4 cards suited on the flop and turn.
This shit is the equivalent of the Giants taking a knee on 3rd down cause they were deep in their own territory and the coaching staff KNEW there was no hope.