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Probably-not-your-ex's-disorder


Paganistic_Emperor

Lmao honestly though


[deleted]

This is hilarious


burnitupbro

Thank you lol... that's the only reason I started coming on this page to learn more because my X keeps calling me one


absenceovthylight

Is it impossible that you actually are one? You know this can happen, right? Someones ex may be a narc if they fulfil the diagnosis criteria, eh.


burnitupbro

Its not impossible but I don't think I am. Idk tho I no doctor. But I have read a lot some things I relate to. But also I see a lot of stuff like it seems like 'narcs'or people with NPD are real sensitive about things, almost soo emotional when it comes to being called out. I'm relaxed most the time and if I'm 'caught in a lie or any other dumb shit like that I handle it.i don't get upset or react like he people I have read about. Also the way some people talk on here that say they have NPD is wayyy different then the way I think or act. But so many other people with NPD agree with the other NPD


burnitupbro

Other times I believe that certain behaviors and actions that can label someone as NPD can be misleading or misinterpreted. Because given a certain situation or in a certain environment I think a lot of people might act in a similar way... fight or flight after all. Depends on the person but being called a narcissist or psychopathic narcissist just doesn't make sense to me at times. I think it's a game my Ex tries to play on me to little me or make me out to be that bad guy and justify her actions. When in reality she is the problem. And we push each other's buttons but maybe I just came out on top this time so she tries to label me as a monster because she lost her stupid game


burnitupbro

Haha sorry for the rant bro


ImperiousAnarchist

Self-Esteem Dysregulation Disorder


Paganistic_Emperor

This is the most accurate and descriptive choice by a long shot


Quinlov

Soooo this is somewhat accurate imo but not specific enough to NPD. Self esteem plays a major role in HPD, BPD, and AvPD as well. In AvPD it's arguably less dysregulated and more just permanently low but in HPD it's high but very environment-dependent (so honestly not that different to NPD) and in BPD it often switches between being very low (more of the time) and very high (less often but happens)


ImperiousAnarchist

It’s almost as if all these different categories need to be reconsidered


Quinlov

Well, yes and no. I agree that questioning the existing categories can be a productive exercise. Furthermore, they \*are\* being reconsidered. In the DSM-5, they included an alternative model for PDs which they essentially considered theoretically sound, but they didn't feel it was refined enough at that stage to fully replace the 10 canonical PDs. So they included it in an extra section at the back. Instead of having 10 PDs, there are 25 traits organised into 5 personality factors. In this system you can have a PD where the individual traits or factors are specified. They also included 6 of the 10 canonical disorders and explained them in terms of the 25 traits. In the more recently published ICD-11, they got rid of all the canonical disorders except for BPD, which they renamed a "borderline pattern". The justification for preserving BPD was that they found that in practice, the only specific PDs being diagnosed were BPD and ASPD. They replaced all those disorders with another model with 5 factors (each factor containing various traits) and 4 of the factors are essentially the same as 4 of the factors in the DSM-5 dimensional model. Also, the 4 common factors map onto the Big Five Personality Traits, which describe normal/healthy personalities, with the disordered traits in the DSM-5 being extremely high or extremely low levels of that trait. The 5th factor is psychoticism in the DSM-5, anankastia in the ICD-11, and openness to experience in the Big Five model. None of these are particularly closely related to each other. They didn't keep an "antisocial pattern" because it is fairly well described by one of the factors, dissociality. They felt the borderline pattern was necessary because of it actually already being used and because it spans three of the factors, so while it is evidently something that is seen frequently in practice, the dimensional model couldn't easily describe it without adding a borderline pattern specifier. That being said, the borderline pattern being necessary in a dimensional model does suggest that the more theoretically valid dimensional model doesn't necessarily invalidate categorical PDs. There is also a related point to be learnt here from the DSM-5 dimensional model: categorical PDs can be distinct and share common features. For example, BPD and AvPD share the anxiety trait within the negative affectivity factor. ASPD and BPD both share the impulsiveness and risk-taking traits within the disinhibition factor and hostility within the antagonism factor. AvPD and OCPD both share the intimacy avoidance trait within the detachment factor, etc. etc. The 6 disorders included in this section are relatively distinct from each other, and the most commonly confused pairs have one of the pair omitted: e.g. HPD is omitted, and it is often confused with BPD; SzPD is omitted, and it is often confused with AvPD. So the distinctness of these 6 combined with them sharing traits suggests to me that various disorders, e.g. NPD, HPD, BPD, and AvPD, could all share self-esteem related issues, without that meaning the classification is invalid. It just means that that isn't a very useful criterion for differential diagnosis. Furthermore, the other part of this system of PD diagnosis and classification, in addition to the traits, refers to the levels of functioning, which is measured in four aspects: identity, self-direction, empathy, and intimacy. The identity aspect includes, among other things, how stable their self-esteem is. This, to me, suggests that they expect that this may vary in any personality disorder - although I do imagine there will be tendencies for each disorder, as it seems fairly obvious that someone with ASPD would likely be more "comfortable" if they don't have much empathy, while research has shown that people with BPD generally have a lot of affective empathy but are lacking in cognitive empathy, for example. So, in summary, reconsidering the different categories is helpful and is indeed an ongoing project in the scientific community. However, I think in this particular case, the common factor of self-esteem-related issues between various PDs doesn't then suggest that there is any particular problem with those categories.


Refuse-Personal

https://youtu.be/nrH5xjeDjzQ


Thesadstrangetomato

This is a VERY accurate way to describe it. You also make it sound so clinical.


0ghost_congo0

Accreate


lux-tenebris-

Oh yes !!!


Dry_Emu_8842

Filthy c- U next Tuesday disorder


mdevilsh54

Angry baby syndrome


aconsciouscrisis

There’s already another name for it, it isn’t just widely used. It’s called empathy deficit disorder


stephensegal

Cunt disease


bisdaknako

Super special person.


Mysterious-Ad-1214

I am better than everyone.


gansje1991

Hidden inner child disorder


aconsciouscrisis

There’s already another name for it, it isn’t just widely used. It’s called empathy deficit disorder


CafeCrema111

Phobia of being forgotten.


wilfred6969

Douche bag personality disorder


WinterTechnical9590

I don't have NPD, so I am not certain, however if I were to rename it I guess I would go with "grandiose egocentric personality disorder."


waswiewer

This is far from reality


WinterTechnical9590

I tried lol