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grahampositive

they remanded today. What are the odds the 3rd circuit pulls their heads out of their collective asses and follows the precedent set by Bruen? I'd love to see their mental gymnastics trying to identify 18th century laws that limit capacity. How do you like those muskets now fuckwads?


AdventurousShower223

Or leave it to NJ. They allowed grey area in Bruen for creative license from states. It wouldn’t shock me they do the same here as long as we are allowed to own firearms and magazines.


BrotherMike82

Anyone have a clue how long it will take for these cases to be cleared up by scotus?


Sinky2086

Tomorrow. Today is the last conference day and tomorrow will be the announcements for the conference including opinions and orders. Also of note, today is Justice Steven Breyer's last day on the SCOTUS.


Regayov

More specifically, we will know immediately if they deny cert or, more likely, revert the cases back to the circuit to reconsider based on *Bruen*. If they grant cert we won’t know for a year how things will end up. That said, my money is on reverting to the circuits.


Vitalian2184

forgive me but reverting back to the "circuit courts" means what exactly.


Regayov

Cases are heard by the circuit courts before being appealed to scotus. SCOTUS can do 1 of 3 things: They can deny the appeal (it dies), they can grant the case (they hear it) or they can remand it (I used the wrong word) back to the circuit. Basically remand is “you decided wrong based on new precedent (Bruen in this case) so try again”


Sinky2086

>SCOTUS can do 1 of 3 things The technically have a fourth option, summary reversal but that is retained for when a lower court is ruling I'm bad faith. This is rare and is considered a massive rebuke of you are not doing your job at all correctly.


Mechelectro1

GVR: A grant, vacate, remand order (GVR order) is a type of order issued by the Supreme Court of the United States in which the Court grants a petition for certiorari, vacates the decision of the court below, and remands the case for further proceedings (hence the acronym by which they are known).


Vitalian2184

so it gets kicked back to a lower federal court or the state court


Mechelectro1

All the GVR's at Supreme court are federal cases, so they get kicked back to the Circuit Courts.


AcceptableSir1831

Can’t wait to buy a CZ Shadow 2 with 19 rounds… I’ve been holding to this for so long.


grahampositive

time to go back to the lake where I dumped my 12 round mags with a fishing magnet


Ecurtis3

Please pass, I’ll have to go dive for the mags I lost in the boating accident though


PorkRoll2022

Oh hell yes, be able to shoot more than 10 rounds out of something other than my rimfire lever action.


threepete13

So did SCOUTS decide to get back in the office a couple weeks ago? Where has all of this 2A stuff been for so long?


loki0629

It was on hold until the Bruen case was decided. That one case was literally the floodgate for the rest of the 2A cases.


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it takes a long time sometimes to make it up the chain. They did have the ruling on the Chicago Laws a few years back as well of course Heller in 2008


grahampositive

judgments are usually handed out in the final days of their term


BC-Outside

Mag ban was just kicked back and lower court is supposed to review under Bruen rules


loki0629

Looks like it was sent back down which was going to be the most likely outcome. The SCOTUS wants these lower courts to do their jobs properly. The plus side to this is that when the current slew of bills that is sitting on Murphy's desk is signed, the ensuing lawsuits won't have to go to the highest court to get resolved.


grahampositive

people screeching about the illegitimacy of the court have no idea what they;re talking about. They could have done a summary reversal on these but they clarified the standard by which they should be judged and remanded for consideration. As the founding fathers intended


njfliiboy

Looks like it was sent back down