By - alariis
loss of opal isnt great but mox amber can help. The real issue is prismatic ending making artifact lock less viable in game 1s so you arent as strong as you used to be sitting under say an ensaring bridge
The deck is fine. We have sentinel and portable hole and solitude. I’m doing great with this list:
Urzablade.dec, Built with Decked Builder http://decks.deckedbuilder.com/d/2022-09-25/2iEZdPEPbUmP7WwxyK5E_w==
That's fairly close to what om thinking of playing. My sb is all over the place, but i've got a few good ideas based on what people have been saying here
Good it doesn’t exist anymore. Whirza was a horrible time for modern
Well Yeah, it was broken as tits
If you're looking for artifact prison decks, you may want to check this discord server: https://discord.gg/efFW8PEB
I still play Whir Prison, without Urza, and have good results in my play group. The current hotness is Prison Tron.
Right now, artifact prison decks are viable, but clearly not top tier. You will win some games against unprepared opponents and linear combo decks, but you will be crushed by 4+ color piles.
I'm honestly not looking for a top tier super deck. Ny local playgroup is "up and coming" and i'd like to play something i k ow they won't default to from the get-go. So ill have some fun but not be super stompy. Then ill upgrade to 4C Yorion when everyone is settled in xD
Gotta love these hot takes of "whizra doesn't play saga"
It's not bad but not what it used to be. Banning astrolabe AND opal made it impossible to come back from
Evolved to Temur UrzaMeria Artificer tribal deck. Its quite strong.
Got a link? Think i've missed that one.. also presuming that it doesnt run the Thopter-combo
Edit: ty for the link
You will also see straight UW and UWR variants.
Yes it does run the combo as another wincon.
My friend plays a blue white stoneforge deck with urza and thopter combo as backup, i don't have a list but I'm pretty sure it's considered "artificer tribal" - I've seen lists than also run red for goblin engineer.
Yeah theres a few variations it seems. Theres even a more or less direct translation (azo Thopter-combo), which i might go for. But actually, the deck is a little pricey as side "for lulz"-project, but i'm really warming up to it.
They dont play well with Saga, which is where you want to be with artifacts these days.
Saga? Urza's or that wicked red one?
We are speakin about Artifacts, yes it is Urza’s Saga.
It could be versus or something third. No need to be condescending :)
Not my intention, just thought it was very obvious, the question seemed troll lol.
Haha nah not at all. I actually a thought you ment that the red Saga was just so strong, that the deck couldn't keep up
Np we good. Good to have it cleared up
You can't just say saga without naming which one, if you're talking about urza's saga, then oh boy you are soooo wrong
There is exactly one card with the word "Saga" in the name in the whole cardpool of MTG. I don't see how this is ambiguous.
Okay cool, just want to know why they think it's a bad card in the deck lol
They don't...? They said that the things OP listed played badly with saga and that you want to play saga.
But they play well with saga lol
Yes, Whir, with it's UUU mana cost, really good with a land that makes colourless.
Urza, a 4 drop, really good with a land that dies after 3 turns.
Saga plays well with artifacts, it does not play well with what makes Whirza be Whirza. Saga also does not help fetch either half of Thopter Sword, nor does it cast Thopter Foundry.
Can you post some recent lists of whirza not running saga, cause I just checked and it seems like they're running saga lol
All variations seem to run saga
Any of these whir lists doing well? I could jam them together too, doesnt mean they will play well enough for me. If it is for you, kudos.
May I ask, what made you the judge of what can and cannot be put into a whirza list? Cause it seems like everyone else is wrong apart from you