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NextDoorLover1

loss of opal isnt great but mox amber can help. The real issue is prismatic ending making artifact lock less viable in game 1s so you arent as strong as you used to be sitting under say an ensaring bridge


TKOS7

The deck is fine. We have sentinel and portable hole and solitude. I’m doing great with this list: Urzablade.dec, Built with Decked Builder http://decks.deckedbuilder.com/d/2022-09-25/2iEZdPEPbUmP7WwxyK5E_w==


alariis

That's fairly close to what om thinking of playing. My sb is all over the place, but i've got a few good ideas based on what people have been saying here


Sandwhich5

Good it doesn’t exist anymore. Whirza was a horrible time for modern


alariis

Well Yeah, it was broken as tits


Xafanya

If you're looking for artifact prison decks, you may want to check this discord server: https://discord.gg/efFW8PEB I still play Whir Prison, without Urza, and have good results in my play group. The current hotness is Prison Tron. Right now, artifact prison decks are viable, but clearly not top tier. You will win some games against unprepared opponents and linear combo decks, but you will be crushed by 4+ color piles.


alariis

I'm honestly not looking for a top tier super deck. Ny local playgroup is "up and coming" and i'd like to play something i k ow they won't default to from the get-go. So ill have some fun but not be super stompy. Then ill upgrade to 4C Yorion when everyone is settled in xD


Gloryboxer

Gotta love these hot takes of "whizra doesn't play saga"


san_dilego

It's not bad but not what it used to be. Banning astrolabe AND opal made it impossible to come back from


MaxBreaker87

Evolved to Temur UrzaMeria Artificer tribal deck. Its quite strong. https://youtu.be/pFg_qCuabjQ


alariis

Got a link? Think i've missed that one.. also presuming that it doesnt run the Thopter-combo Edit: ty for the link


Tse7en5

You will also see straight UW and UWR variants.


MaxBreaker87

Yes it does run the combo as another wincon.


ExtensionHedgehog528

My friend plays a blue white stoneforge deck with urza and thopter combo as backup, i don't have a list but I'm pretty sure it's considered "artificer tribal" - I've seen lists than also run red for goblin engineer.


alariis

Yeah theres a few variations it seems. Theres even a more or less direct translation (azo Thopter-combo), which i might go for. But actually, the deck is a little pricey as side "for lulz"-project, but i'm really warming up to it.


imborj

They dont play well with Saga, which is where you want to be with artifacts these days.


alariis

Saga? Urza's or that wicked red one?


imborj

We are speakin about Artifacts, yes it is Urza’s Saga.


alariis

It could be versus or something third. No need to be condescending :)


imborj

Not my intention, just thought it was very obvious, the question seemed troll lol.


alariis

Haha nah not at all. I actually a thought you ment that the red Saga was just so strong, that the deck couldn't keep up


imborj

My bad!


alariis

Np we good. Good to have it cleared up


Hot_Wash

You can't just say saga without naming which one, if you're talking about urza's saga, then oh boy you are soooo wrong


gnowwho

There is exactly one card with the word "Saga" in the name in the whole cardpool of MTG. I don't see how this is ambiguous.


Hot_Wash

Okay cool, just want to know why they think it's a bad card in the deck lol


gnowwho

They don't...? They said that the things OP listed played badly with saga and that you want to play saga.


Hot_Wash

But they play well with saga lol


OmniLinkVT

Yes, Whir, with it's UUU mana cost, really good with a land that makes colourless. Urza, a 4 drop, really good with a land that dies after 3 turns. Saga plays well with artifacts, it does not play well with what makes Whirza be Whirza. Saga also does not help fetch either half of Thopter Sword, nor does it cast Thopter Foundry.


Hot_Wash

Can you post some recent lists of whirza not running saga, cause I just checked and it seems like they're running saga lol All variations seem to run saga


imborj

Any of these whir lists doing well? I could jam them together too, doesnt mean they will play well enough for me. If it is for you, kudos.


Hot_Wash

May I ask, what made you the judge of what can and cannot be put into a whirza list? Cause it seems like everyone else is wrong apart from you