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Darkdawson123

No lie I 5 - 0d that league Saturday I think, I've been waiting for this post LOL. I've been on the tribal elementals plan for awhile and it finally paid off (just after this 5 - 0 I got top 8 at a 5k with the same 76)


-Goblin-Wizard-

I'm curious, why the 61 cards in the main?


Darkdawson123

2 answers Meme answer: mill tech Real answer: One of my friends got upset at someone online for running 61 cards so I started. It feels super fine due to the amount of cards I see in a given game plus that 61st slot is usually a tutor target which is always nice to have


youarelookingatthis

There are a few taxes players running 61 card decks for meme reasons and it's always hilarious to see.


VowNyx

Oh that's awesome! Any notes or anecdotes you can share about playing it? I too hate fetching and love the rainbow manabase. Doel you find it makes omnath Less good?


Darkdawson123

For sure! So I've been on the list for awhile pre mh2 so my cliff notes of what I've learned so far - image is worth not having kaheera, you don't win more games with better attackers its a game of resources using your removal on bodies and skellys to pull ahead and gain card advantage through reef. So I prefer the extra utility - onmath is still nuts just not as good here hence only 2 instead of 4 - knowing match ups are super important (like with all magic decks I guess) like how UW control is a great matchup and how tron is pretty rough - having non creature answers for cards like torpor orb and hushbringer is so important cause if you can't kill those you straight lose the game - bloodmoon isn't nearly as backbreaking as it looks your best threats are red and we have a red mana dork. That's some of it if you have specific questions I'd be happy to answer!


VowNyx

Sweet! When do you find you play Harbinger? It feels awkward playing early if you're trying to draw lands. I added the MDFC elemental to help with that, but it never felt great. I'm loving the 3x skele! Do you find thunderkin and verperlark are only used to get those back? Is one smokebraider enough to see it when you need it? How has chalice felt? I assume you bring the other two in for cascade, but do you bring them in to stop all the 1 mana removal from murktide? Thoughts abou a miser shriekmaw? How important is Gemstone Caverns? Does it really help enough to warrant the colourless land? What do you do with vial? Do you keep ticking up till 5? Or keep it on 2 or 3? And lastly when do you bring in Muldrotha? (Sweet tech btw!) Thanks :)


Darkdawson123

Sure thing - harbinger is very matchup dependent against burn you play in on 1 as long as you have a second land to go get unsettled mariner. If your trying to draw lands and your opponent isn't interacting getting smokebraider is great or a reef to try and flip into lands. But it's usually 1 pretty early to get a disruption piece or a reef or to accelerate mana - thunderkin gets a whole bunch of things back usually if skelly is in the bin its him but getting a versperlark back to reanimate something is really strong. Lark tends to get thunderkin or reef back I've also gotten masked vandal after side - I tend to tutor for it because you don't want to see it most of the time it's very frail so 1 is perfect cause I can look for it when it's great or if I need to clear the way for more impact full spells cause smokebraider is scary - chalice has been insane they definitely come in vs rhinos and living end and usually murktide cause if we make murktide play fair we win - shriekmaw has always been lack luster fury and solitude do it better ya know - on the draw playing a chalice on 1 or a reef on 2 is so huge it'll win you games. It's 1 colorless land in your rainbow manabase hasn't affected anything poorly yet - vial usually stays on 3 except when i need to resolve a larger mana value creature over my 5k when I had 2 I have 1 one 5 and the other on 3 - muldrotha comes in during super grindy matches where I need extra recursive threats so usually vs jund and other grindy lists Thanks for the questions


VowNyx

Wow thanks for all the answers! That's super helpful :) I'm really glad to hear about the lines with harbinger and how you prioritize certain 2 drops. Ou I love masked vandal, I'll def play that in the side. Do you find it removal light with only 2 solitude? Or is it because this deck is more the aggressor than controlling?


Darkdawson123

4 fury 2 solitude main plus omnath has been fine. The extra solitude in the side has been pretty good. I find that elementals tends to be able to take multiple roles if that makes sense. Like you can br aggressive or controlling you just gotta pick the way you win the game


VowNyx

Oh one more question, what do you bring the Revilark in for?


Darkdawson123

Jund and other midrange decks


VowNyx

Oh and for Phantasmal Image, are you copying your own elementals usually or just the nastiest thing on board?


Darkdawson123

Image mostly copies my own dudes but sometimes I've copied the scariest thing depends on what you need!


bbuucckk

Always happy to see a 5c humans 5-0 list.


PotatoFam

Omg the 4C Hammer deck actually trophied. I remember seeing Spike run into it on stream. Everyone was soooo confused when it dropped Wrenn game 2 and Omnath game 3 after just looking like regular old Hammertime at first. One of the funniest things I’ve seen on a Modern stream.


sacky84

Which video was this? I want to see!


PotatoFam

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d2CT6lYM2Vk Match 2


SirLafayette

Can we get a link to the stream please? Thanks


PotatoFam

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d2CT6lYM2Vk Match 2


Existenz81

Thanks for highlighting my UB Control-deck, I'm glad you like it. Unfortunately MTGO is oversaturated with Ragavan and Esper Sentinel right now, meaning that as a control played you basically have to have 7+ onemana removal spells. And it's much easier to do that in red since Bolt isn't dead, while if you play 4 Push and 3 Thirst you'll have some terrible matchups. Which kind of sucks since I really like UB, but I have since the 5-0 gone over to playing UR Control instead.


TurnOneSerum

Whats your izzet control list looking like?


Existenz81

Hopefully I’ll 5-0 with it so you can see. Went 4-1 earlier, only losing to the nuttiest draw from Living End.


TurnOneSerum

I played blue moon from the banning of looting to Mh2. Now i play moon with Monkeys!


Hexdrinker99

Thanks for posting these as always. Your the best! The mono red list I 5-0 with is definitely not a prison deck I'd say as it's not very all in on it. The prison pieces definitely won me a good number of matches. The mono red midrange I guess plan b is really underated imo and your pretty happy just to copy fury/Spyro with Kiki or his reflection. The combo is more a way to beat 4c or just walk into it while they locked up ECT.


Intelligent-Cap-881

GB infect! Hell yeah! Love to see it!


truckingatwork

Gives me hope for my infect deck haha


Crazed_Hatter

I was the tameshi combo 5-0. Deck is still very medium but it has a polarized enough matchup spread that it can spike trophies and smaller tournaments.


RenaissanceHumanist

I don't know how anyone 5-0's with Zoo. They're either really good or really lucky.


Pingbock-Seek

Hammer time forever!


counterentropy

4c Hammer is like witnessing a nightmare coming alive! Cool list tho


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ShutoShotokan

Phantasmal Image is not "traditionnal" in Humans. Its stopped seeing serious play for a year now.


30STACK

Is this the final form for Hammer?