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hakuzilla

[[veteran explorer]], [[pernicious deeds]], [[cabal therapy]]


Skrappyross

Someone wants to play modern Nic Fit eh?


Wolfling217

I'm honestly surprised Wizards hasn't put Deed back into what is effectively a deeper Extended. They probably figure Explosives and Blast Zone are sufficient.


MTGCardFetcher

[veteran explorer](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/1/a/1a6c19cc-6469-4958-a547-1d0fe97c70e8.jpg?1599707680) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=veteran%20explorer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/186/veteran-explorer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1a6c19cc-6469-4958-a547-1d0fe97c70e8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [pernicious deeds](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/8/6/8652e3a1-bcd4-4c0c-a085-34f19702df26.jpg?1562437624) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Pernicious%20Deed) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/212/pernicious-deed?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8652e3a1-bcd4-4c0c-a085-34f19702df26?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [cabal therapy](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/2/f/2f5b12f0-986f-43d0-a81b-64111e7f17e6.jpg?1580014199) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=cabal%20therapy) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ema/83/cabal-therapy?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2f5b12f0-986f-43d0-a81b-64111e7f17e6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


troll_berserker

Deed would be a godsend. It's way too hard for fair decks to deal with the small permanent spam decks backed by Lurrus, especially when your EE needs to go on 0, 1, AND 2 and you're STILL not killing their Urza's Saga.


CIeaverBot

\[\[Circular Logic\]\] \[\[Innocent Blood\]\] \[\[Goblin Lackey\]\] \[\[Toxic Deluge\]\]


zedoac

Gimme psychatog with this nice list.


Zoomoth9000

> [[Goblin Lackey]] And suddenly, the list of must-answer-on-turn-1 red creatures doubled...


Varyline

Would Innocent Blood be any good at all?


Chairfighter

There's so much good 1 mana 1 for 1 removal in modern rn that innocent blood probably wouldn't see much play but the card can be very good under the right conditions.


Bring-To-Scapeshift

Innocent Blood is a one sided (under the right conditions) sac effect for 1 mana. Pretty good.


DressedSpring1

Ehhh. Given the lack of hexproof creatures in the format, fatal push is a better innocent blood in nearly every realistic scenario. Innocent blood was wanted for a long time as black T1 removal, push largely fills that role while being instant speed and able to target.


Varyline

Is it? I just feel like every deck makes so many tokens nowadays that edicts are kinda bad main deck. What decks would play it other than smallpox brews?


Bring-To-Scapeshift

The only creature tokens I can think of are Constructs off of [[Urza’s Saga]] and rhinos off of [[Crashing Footfalls]]. If I’m spending 1 mana to kill a karnstruct or a 4/4 I don’t mind. On top of that it’s an answer to turn 1 Ragavan. Also dodges black protection, which is relevant sometimes.


cl174

I don't think the Saga player minds if you spend a card to deal with 1/2 to 1/3rd of their card at sorc speed after they get at least 1 attack in.


flowtajit

Yeah, in nic fit


Amicdeep

id like to add \[\[Obsessive Search\]\] as well as circula logic please. Make my Pauper deck modern legal!


DangerG

God please give us lackey. Without muxus in the format its hardly more threatening than ragavan


turnerz

>I honestly don't think he would even change the format that much but maybe it would turn the murktide hammertime matchup on its head lackey has the same gameplay problems as ragavan though: being on the play is absolutely massive, & it simplifys games into a turn 1 "force" (ie: removal) check. I don't think the gameplay is good


VowNyx

It does have that threat, but more interestingly late game it still requires commitment to block or remove. Many times I've attacked with one on t5 (not a great top deck btw) and and it was blocked to spare the free trigger (even though I had nothing in hand to cheat in). It's much worse than a late game Ragavan which can be dashed, draws a card and ramps!


fuggingolliwog

Hell yeah, Circular Logic would be so good in this meta.


Varyline

I'm not sure I understand how you use it properly. What instant speed discard outlets do you use to play it?


Depian

Most likely \[\[The Underworld Cookbook\]\] or \[\[Faithful Mending\]\] but something like \[\[Zombie Infestation\]\] could work too


h4x_x_x0r

I would love to see circular logic! I have a japanese foil copy for Commander/Archon, that's just waiting to spike like counterspell did xD (Although it's very unlikely, since it's a bit niche but I really like that card)


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##### ###### #### [Circular Logic](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/4/7/472de0e2-c15b-49c4-b2fd-74b776daac34.jpg?1547516139) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Circular%20Logic) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/uma/47/circular-logic?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/472de0e2-c15b-49c4-b2fd-74b776daac34?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Innocent Blood](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/2/9/29184c64-03f3-4a50-ac18-e34b6c89635e.jpg?1600700558) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Innocent%20Blood) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/244/innocent-blood?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/29184c64-03f3-4a50-ac18-e34b6c89635e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Goblin Lackey](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/3/0/30104836-1e9d-4533-98f8-d5c4e6484b52.jpg?1562904811) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Goblin%20Lackey) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/167/goblin-lackey?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/30104836-1e9d-4533-98f8-d5c4e6484b52?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Toxic Deluge](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/d/b/db34617f-b04f-4b65-84cf-5c5be1eb7226.jpg?1629844481) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Toxic%20Deluge) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cc2/6/toxic-deluge?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/db34617f-b04f-4b65-84cf-5c5be1eb7226?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


VictorZavalaPerez

[[Tortured Existence]] because of reasons


TheFlyingCompass

[[Spore Frog]] *heavy breathing intensifies.*


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ary31415

You came here to link the gatherer page on Tortured Existence?


DrPibIsBack

Hell yeah, boy, I'd love to play Tortex in a format with better options for creatures to fiddle with.


pokepat460

Back to basics or a similar card to punish greedy 4 color/urzas saga mana bases


DJPad

I mean, there is blood moon/blood sun.


pokepat460

Yeah but people still play 4 color piles anyway. Apparently there needs to be more tools to keep them in check. That's why I'd choose back to basics over something like price of progress in order to give another color a way to fight this.


excrement_

Thank you. Decks being capable of doing basically everything while playing all the latest must-answer mythics should have drawbacks


Usnvox

[[Price of Progress]]


pokepat460

Red already has blood moon, though. Chosing a different color gives more decks tools against greedy mana. Back to basics also fits in multiple types of strategies where price of progress is at its best in burn and aggro decks.


Almighty_Nokia_Brick

I need [[Psychatog]] in modern


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HexZer0

I'm really surprised they didn't put it in MH2.


eadenoth

the only frustrating thing about tog is that unless it was “reprinted” under a new name and at 1 or 2 cmc, i could hardly see it as playable in today’s world


Flat_Appearance_6773

[[Pernicious Deed]] , Pernicious Deed and Pernicious Deed


Sea-Hornet-2530

The problem is there isn’t too many older cards that aren’t legal that would see play but not be broken. We are more likely to get fixed versions. For example tourach. At 2 it’s just too good. But at 4 with a reasonable body it is good but not busted. The closest I could think of was deluge but that might be too much with shadow around.


BarbLovesYou

I think there are certainly some old cards that could be fair [[chain lighting]] for example maybe even [[plow under]] (plow under may not be the best reprint due to how frustratingit it can be). But there's alot of supplemental cards that could be really cool too. Edit: plow under is already modern legal


DangerG

Plow Under is already modern legal and sees no play


BarbLovesYou

Obviously WOTC has taken my advice /s


DangerG

:P Its a cool card just expensive. If it was an instant that could be played off of Wilderness Rec, it might see way more play.


doctrgiggles

I literally built a modern deck specifically to play Plow Under (Eternal Command/mono-g control), and now three years later I just can't rationalize running the card in a deck I *built around it* because it's too slow. There's essentially no way to get it out before T3 and if you spend two turns setting up a Plow Under in modern you're absolutely dead even on the play.


doctrgiggles

Twice I've had people call judges to check that my Plow Unders are modern legal even though I specifically play 8th edition ones to avoid this.


TehSeksyManz

That is actually hilarious to me lol


doctrgiggles

To be fair I usually don't point out that it's an 8th edition card until after they've called the judge because I think letting them have a little tantrum about their lands is funny maybe I'm a bad person.


Sea-Hornet-2530

To be fair chain lightning is probably ok. But it wouldn’t really change anything. Sure burn switches say spike to chain lightning. But in the scheme of things it doesn’t really matter.


flowtajit

Spike? You fool. Cut those skewers baby.


Neutrino_feroce

Plow under is already modern legal and it's not really good...


TheTriPack

Plow under is modern legal


Hawk2422

As an elves player I would love to see [[Birchlore Rangers]]. I think this card would help the elves archetype without outright breaking the format like [[Glimpse of Nature]] and/ or [[Green Sun’s Zenith]] would.


Wonderrful1

Agree, but \[\[wirewood symbiote\]\] is my pick for most anticipated potential reprint to modern for elves. Similar reasons you have for the rangers, but I think symbiote would have a bigger impact but also not make the deck too good.


Hawk2422

Agree on Symbiote, and I would gladly take that, but I personally want Rangers more so I can consistently cast [[Rite of Harmony]] and [[Shaman of the Pack]] in the same turn and not have to worry about relying on lands for the black and white mana, or having to use some jank like [[Manamorphose]] or something worse to fix the mana.


dlane007

(Elvish) nu-noble hierarch in abzan maybe?


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[Rite of Harmony](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/e/b/eb1a16f9-13d4-4188-8e1e-0f2394349c7a.jpg?1636684763) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rite%20of%20Harmony) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/236/rite-of-harmony?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/eb1a16f9-13d4-4188-8e1e-0f2394349c7a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Shaman of the Pack](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/d/a/da9705e2-40e5-4ec9-8aef-2eab28d5a66f.jpg?1631235549) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shaman%20of%20the%20Pack) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khc/92/shaman-of-the-pack?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/da9705e2-40e5-4ec9-8aef-2eab28d5a66f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Manamorphose](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/f/a/faf9070e-14be-4ce5-a19a-6addc79359c1.jpg?1599708170) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Manamorphose) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/208/manamorphose?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/faf9070e-14be-4ce5-a19a-6addc79359c1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Ron-Loves-Twizzlers

I think if Symbiote got printed, elves would probably convert to a mono green strategy over the golgari one.


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Mycian

[[Orcish lumberjack]] I'd love to play some good old applejacks in modern


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Sammy-boy795

As an infect player, I'm contractually obliged to say [[invigorate]]. I'd love to see that card go into my modern list


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HoRiZonBrav3

Me too man! Me too.


ryscott85

May as well do crop rotation too why they’re at it 😄!


the_agent_of_blight

Deal


Nec_Pluribus_Impar

Give me Hymn to Tourach and you have a deal


Sammy-boy795

Deal


TheBlindEternal

Ahh a man of culture.


TacotheMagicDragon

Please no.


DeepStateKenyan

My thrassa double strike one shot meme deck says yes


DJPad

And berserk while you're at it


CamelSpotting

I have four in my binder. #iwanttobelieve


robfetter

[[wild growth]] for Enchantress


Marsbarszs

Would that do anything but be a different version of [[utopia sprawl]]. Definitely better against a blood moon


grokthis1111

redundancy.


Marsbarszs

Good point


robfetter

I would replace abundant growth with it. The latter isn’t ramp, wild growth is. You could of course argue that drawing an extra card is just as useful.


Marsbarszs

Ah gotcha, like I said not entirely familiar with the deck but this makes a lot of sense


calmingRespirator

God I want this so bad. I really feel like this redundancy would be humungous for the archetype.


robfetter

Since my knowledge is sort of limited: would a reprint of wild growth cause any problems with other archetypes of the format? Or is it exactly the redundancy that will prevent wotc from reprinting, since too much redundancy has a tendency to be problematic?


calmingRespirator

Quite honestly, it could cause some level of issue in conjunction with [[Arbor Elf]], [[Blood Moon]] and 3 mana land destruction (like [[Stone Rain]]) in Ponza. The redundancy with [[Utopia Sprawl]] would make turn 2 blood moon or land destruction significantly more consistent. The fact that land disruption/destruction play patterns are generally considered unfun could be a good enough reason not to reprint Wild Growth. Especially considering that since Wild Growth doesn’t require a forest like utopia sprawl does, so it doesn’t have anti-synergy with blood moon when cast on a stomping ground. That all said, I’m personally of the opinion that a stronger Ponza Deck would be pretty good for the current format, since it would make the 4 colour omnath decks worse. That should in theory increase the diversity of 2-3 colour value decks which are currently being pushed out by just being worse than the 4 colour versions.


robfetter

Wow, on point reply! Much appreciated.


Se7enworlds

[[Rishadin Port]] [[Recruiter of the Guard]]


BarbLovesYou

I really like Port one of my favorite cube picks


Se7enworlds

Seeing the Dockhand made me sad


HexZer0

[[Unholy Grotto]] and/or [[Gempalm Polluter]] [[Decimate]] and extremely unlikely, but my favorite card [[Guided Passage]]


BarbLovesYou

I have never heard of guided passage until today, what a sick card


Scrilla_Gorilla_

Decimate would be a house against Hammertime.


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Fiscal-Clifford

This would be fantastic.


lutzz

in this thread: people suggesting cards that speed up the format, not understanding that fast threats kill formats.


-defg

Baleful Strix


AbsoluteIridium

[[green baleful strix but with flash now]]


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ekienhol

With all the ragavan running around stealing things, [[homeward path]] but expanded to permanents not just creatures.


Eussz

Since we can’t have [[Wasteland]] I would like [[Dust Bowl]] please.


BlankBlankston

Tendrils of agony and/or doomsday. There aren't any rituals that produce black mana in modern


Axelfiraga

They were going to print Doomsday into modern, but when one of the testers said they’d brew up some Oracle lists the design team said “nm don’t bother we forgot about oracle”. Though yeah, I don’t think doomsday would be so bad even with oracle…


ekienhol

[[crystalline sliver]] But will settle for [[hibernation sliver]]


raidBoots

We have slivers at home. Slivers at home: [[diffusion sliver]], [[frenetic sliver]]


Ungestuem

I have no idea what we will get, but I already started saving up for release.


Katharsis7

Baleful Strix, Yuriko and Retrofitter Foundry.


Living_End

I don’t think yuriko would be in it. It seems to heavily linked to commander. I think we would see a changed version that is better for modern.


Katharsis7

Yuriko is playable in Legacy. Commander is just the icing on the top. Not need to buff that card.


Living_End

I’m not saying it isn’t playable, I’m just saying it’s got extra text on it that does nothing in modern that is meant for commander. Idk if WotC would want to confuse new modern players with it. I think it would be a neat reprint, I just don’t see it happening because of its commander text.


Katharsis7

MHx is not really a set for newbies and rather complicated. I don't think the confusion is a possible danger.


highaerials36

Modern gets cards designed for it and Legacy doesn't. Legacy gets every new card whereas modern doesn't. That's what the person is implying, that legacy can take in any cards that reference things not actually being used, because it's open to taking in everything. Legacy can play [[Jeweled Lotus]] and not care about the commander clause (there was a video using [[Doubling Cube]] with it). Modern is closed to only getting new standard sets and horizon products.


Zantigo

Fun reminder that [[Command Tower]] and [[Arcane Signet]] are both modern legal. Don't think Yuriko is really out of the question because of commander text


secretcharacter

Throne of Eldraine is a really weird set for modern


DonkeyKong957

Why does a majority of people want Modern to just become Legacy without the pillars of legacy? I think Toxic Deluge and maybe Goblin Lackey would be fun inclusions, also Deck Fayden seems to be perfectly fine


BarbLovesYou

Because the reserved list makes legacy to expensive for most people


DonkeyKong957

That's fair, I just enjoy Modern having it's own identity, but I can get people wanting to play legacy lite, it's definitely a fun format I wish that wasn't so expensive


kabigon2k

Bring back [[Unholy Citadel]] / [[Seafarer’s Quay]] / [[Mountain Stronghold]] / [[Cathedral of Serra]] / [[Adventurers’ Guildhouse]], you cowards!!


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ihopeitsatimemachine

Imagine mono red legendary tribal. Ragavan, Norin, Magda, Birgi, Torbran, Purphoros. It would be terrible, but so fun.


LeeDawg24

Price of progress, psychatog, chain lightning


L3yline

[[Dualcaster Mage]]


marcusjohnston

[[Back to Basics]] and [[Unexpectedly Absent]] were always my favorite options. Not sure we really need Unexpectedly Absent now that Prismatic Ending is here, but I guess it can be played mono white if someone really wanted to do that. I think modern may have pushed a bit too far into decks that can play too many colors without having good ways to punish it. I'm not sure that Back to Basics is the answer we need, but I've always liked it better than Blood Moon's play patterns. Might make sense to color shift Back to Basics into white or something too if they don't want that effect in blue. Another one that I kind of want is [[Standstill]]. Not sure what it would do in modern, but I've played with it a few times in legacy and had a reasonable time.


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Delta_357

I didn't expect to see Standstill here but I 100% agree, I'd love to see it just for what would happen in the meta.


marcusjohnston

It's probably not really a style of play you want to reward honestly. It can be interesting and can really cause a problem of figuring out when to break it, but it can be pretty messed up too. Pretty close to having legacy landstill in modern now though with Mishra's Factory and Shark Typhon as things to do with it.


Scrilla_Gorilla_

I hadn't played Modern in a long time and got someone with a \[\[Choke\]\] a few months ago. It really took me back. I'd love to see Back to Basics in the format.


WickedThumb

[[Price of Progress]] gets my vote.


ragingopinions

In a shockland based format? Bro you want to weaken the 4c decks, this nukes them out of the format.


driver1676

Good. Playing 4/5c good stuff should have a real cost to it accessible by more than just burn.


Jmallan2112

The 4/5 color piles atm run a disgusting amount of basics, the yorion pile literally plays ice-fang. If you add price to the format you'll kill most of the classic land based combo decks, the lower to the ground midrange decks, and the greed piles literally will not care.


ragingopinions

2 mana for 6-8 damage at instant speed is too good. You can find ways to disadvantage decks playing tons of duals without giving burn an insane advantage in a format \*where duals actually hurt\*.


WolfPacLeader

There are ways of punishing greedy manabases other than giving decks auto losses to burn. Price is an absolutely egregious amount of reach in a world where lands already tend to do a reasonable amount of damage to players. 2 mana deal 8 is absolutely absurd and would make burn currently and forever a tier 1 deck. If astrolabe was still a card then maybe it wouldn't break the format.


WickedThumb

I can reasonably play 4c even with burn being prominent, which is just egregious to me. I think it's become too easy to just splash all the colors you want. PoP might be too strong, but a watered down version would be great to punish greedy mana bases.


gonzosinferno

Bingo, that is 100% why we need something to fuck up greedy mana bases


ary31415

> I can reasonably play 4c even with burn being prominent Those decks either have a lot of lifegain by way of omnath or are combo decks like Velomachus. It's the 3c decks like jund that get nuked by price of progress; all you'd be doing is pushing more people towards 4c


spear_chest

It's hard to imagine burn eating a ban, and most scenarios I can think of go through one of price of progress or fireblast.


amdnim

While we're on the subject, [[sulfuric vortex]] too


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be_an_adult

I think this one’s less likely given we got [[Roiling Vortex]] in ZNR.


TheRecovery

Ironically, this would likely push 4c decks more. 3c decks don’t have ways of gaining life so you’d kill all of those, but 4c Decks have Omnath which can gain 8 life per fetch. So you’d have all the 3c players and some number of 2c players switch over to the deck that can actually survive PoP.


AAABattery03

Literally all the “suggestions” people make to make the 4C decks weaker literally don’t do anything to 4C. Like you said, PoP doesn’t do much against 4C. Next most popular suggestion is BtB, which again, does nearly nothing to the deck that barely every taps out in the first 3 turns. All that’ll change is they’ll fetch more conservatively in the early turns, rely a bit more on Abundant Growth, and then just Prismatic you and keep playing through it. It *will* do a great job punishing all the not 4C decks though, good job complainers! ^(It’s almost like the chronic complaints about the 4C decks are largely coming from people who don’t really understand how the deck works in the first place or something…) Edit: for completeness’ sake: if you think 4C is a problem (I don’t), the best thing to do is call for [[Wrenn and Six]] or [[Ephemerate]] to be banned. Both of these cards fix the natural inconsistency and clunkiness that a 4-5C deck with 6-10 pitch spells is supposed to face (and it pains me because Ephemerate is such an interesting card to me, although W6 can go fuck itself). Nonbasic hate does nothing because it punishes ***every other deck in the format*** more. With more nonbasic hate, sure, 4-5C gets slightly worse, but RBx Midrange straight up disappears, UWx Control gets considerably worse, etc, and this will overall cement 4C’s position by making it the only playable fair deck.


Due_Clerk_2261

This is exactly the card modern needs right now.


dikbagimus

[[opposition]]


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djbospad

Plz no whenever I face this card in Vintage Cube it makes me want to smash my computer


Due_Clerk_2261

Recruiter of the Guard Leovold Baleful Strix Toxic Deluge Spellseeker


John_Mother

\[\[Recruiter of the Guard\]\] \[\[Leovold\]\] \[\[Baleful Strix\]\] \[\[Toxic Deluge\]\] \[\[Spellseeker\]\]


Shoz5

[[Careful Study]]


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llkll

We really need this since looting ban


heaveninherarms

Careful Study doesn't solve any problems that Looting created.


llkll

That's not the case. It's just a worse looting and in a worse color that want those effects (as of now a red careful study without flashback would be a lot better).


heaveninherarms

Not having flashback is negligible when the whole point of the card is to be a busted T1 enabler. And yeah, being blue means it won't bring Mardu Pyromancer back to it's tier 3 glory days but in return Reanimator and Jeskai Phoenix get to ditch Faithful Mending and Dredge gets to ditch Otherworldly Gaze and suddenly we're back to the days where the only tier one strategies are graveyard decks. Oh and being blue has the huge buff of pitching to FoN


Wolfling217

> pitching to FoN As the format speeds up, this will become more and more relevant.


SpaceKoala34

[[Portent]] or a fixed version that can only target yourself. I want to play terminus


FourDogsinaHorseSuit

[[phyrexian Dreadnought]]


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tehkit

Nice try, Mark. On a serious note though, wpuld Baleful Strix really be that OP these days?


iamnoky

We basically have Strix but removing the snow restriction while not sandbagging you with green sounds pretty bad.


VelikiUcitelj

Well look at it this way. Coatl is still good enough to see play even though it requires snow for deathtouch and is green. Baleful Strix would enable Ninjas and UBx control decks.


mostlikelyadragon

Agree on Dack, Gerrard's Verdict so that hopefully the Hymn wishing will stop (random discard is bad gameplay.) The redundancy of Wild Growth is probably safer now that Prismatic Ending exists. \[\[Fractured Identity\]\] is one that probably wouldn't see a lot of play but would be a pretty cool BtL option just because. It would be a good place to reintroduce Preordain as well.


SuperDevin

[[Sudden Substitution]]


Rushrule8

[[Psychatog]] [[Circular logic]] [[Cabal therapy]] [[Orim's chant]] [[Destructive Flow]]


Necessary_Tap_9010

Uro... Oko... Summer bloom... City of traitors Ancient tomb Eye of ugin Watchin mtg go covid elk will make me happy


boberfish

[[Hymn to Tourach]] Or just BB target player discards 2


Kemkempalace

I think wrench mind is as close as we are gonna get


AitrusX

[[gerrard’s verdict]]?


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Kemkempalace

Fair


erikfrenz

[[Whispers of Emrakul]]


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Pernicous_Wish

[[Pernicious Deed]] [[Destructive Flow]] I know it won't happen, but I can dream [[Baleful Strix]] [[Palace Jailer]]


Jolraels_Centaur_OP

>\[\[Palace Jailer\]\] Keep the Monarch mechanic *far* away from Modern, please and thank you.


Flat_Appearance_6773

Pernicious Deed all the way.


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Wolfling217

The only weird thing is that I'm wondering if Destructive Flow would be too slow.


Crookodile

[[Fireblast]] and [[Price of Progress]] are my picks, although I might be slightly biased 🔥 jokes aside, Fireblast is perhaps too strong but PoP might be fine if Modern receives a watered-down version.


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flowtajit

I feel like 3 mana deal two+an additional one for each nonbasic is probably good for modern. A little slower and less damaging per mana, but more useful in non moneypile matches


Hainto14

Baleful strix


DarkStarStorm

[[Armadillo Cloak]] Bogles needs some love.


joshwarmonks

Punishing fire and Splinter twin


onesmallstepforcat

A lot of cards that see (or have at one point) minor/fringe legacy play could have a great home in modern, plus a few outliers that just havn't seen a reprint. [[Veteran Explorer]] [[Pernicious Deed]] [[Tangle Wire]] [[Karakas]] [[Tortured Existence]] [[Basking Rootwalla]] [[Burning Wish]] [[Living Wish]] [[Baleful Strix]] [[Curfew]] [[Innocent Blood]] Maybes on some of these (probably a yes with some of the above printed into the format) [[Back to Basics]] [[Price of Progress]] [[Stifle]] [[Cabal Therapy]] [[Rishadan Port]] [[Careful Study]] I'd also love to see a Dark Depths unban if a few of these were added to the format; a "wasteland lite" would help a lot as well (My suggestion would be "Destroy target land without any basic land types"). Faithless would probably be safe to unban too.


Jolraels_Centaur_OP

>Karakas. You think it's a net positive giving everyone a free way to protect their Ragavans?


Psykodamber

I'm not sure I would want Cabal Therapy. But I am all for Veteran explorer... I thought they would print veteran explorer in MH1 with the therapist as the first card spoiled.


onesmallstepforcat

Yeah Therapy is definitely on my maybe list; I love the card, and would love to see it in modern, but I'm not confident that something abusive wouldn't happen. Vet not being in modern is just so stupid.


moslof

What types of decks does curfew play in, or how would you play it?


onesmallstepforcat

It probably doesn't have a home anymore, especially as power creep continues, but its an interesting card that I'd like to see available in the format. Its a nice non targeted "removal" spell against someone with only 1 creature (I've run it against Marit Lage and Gurmag very effectively), and is a great value/tempo engine with snapcaster mage.


Ron-Loves-Twizzlers

Katanas is def too strong for modern.


Independent_Permit98

Wasteland. Fight me.


iamnoky

This will get W6 instantly banned. Maybe if they added a mana cost or made it a free Field of Ruin.


nogwarking

[[Half a Free Field of Ruin]]


vojdek

W&6 approves.


PorkinsHeldIt

Go play legacy


j-schlansky

I'm a HollowVine player so my first thought was [[Anger]]. Then I thought of it in Izzet Murktide. Or Grixis DS. Fuck.


Hexdrinker99

The real issue would be dredge style decks.


Katharsis7

Neither Murktide nor GDS would play Anger. Both decks care about having great topdecks and Anger sucks.


MTGCardFetcher

[Anger](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/c/0c7ce363-3f57-49ed-b89a-f12bb5227ab4.jpg?1631586892) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Anger) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/113/anger?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0c7ce363-3f57-49ed-b89a-f12bb5227ab4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call