Distinct Modern League 5-0s - Sep 17 2021
By - bamzing
aspiringspike's esper reanimator looks interesting. I've been building a list with removal&discard, but his is more about removal and counters.
counters are probably than discard, considering they let you protect the archon better.
yeah, his version feels like the chalice control but with the the reanimator package over the control card advantage pieces, I guess you get the option of the bursty/tempo game plan but less consistency. I was liking the abzan version of the smallpox list, but might try this out.
I watched the abzan version, I was glad to see someone else recognize how good culling ritual is.
I started my esper brew based off that abzan list, because I really wanted t3feri to protect the combo
he streamed it if you wanna watch the matches
ah, I hadn't found it on his youtube, but it's on his twitch so I'll watch it there. thanks for the headsup!
My trophy on Tuesday didnt get posted :(
It was an Abzan Midrange list with Ignoble Hierarchs and WITHOUT Stoneforge or Lurrus. Heres the youtube link to the stream if anyone is interested:
How are the voidwalkers working out with tarmogoyfs?
Theyre not as much of a nombo as you think. Voidwalker usually either dies before Goyf comes down, or if it lives, you have a high probability of winning anyway.
I’m liking the UR Moon Control list by Jacob - mainly because it’s not running monkeys (monkeys are soo $$$)
Most UR moon lists I’ve seen don’t run monkeys. Figured murktide is better at closing out a game and that’s why.
Yeah, just a play set of snaps instead! Which are a mere….almost the same price as Ragavan.
That said, 0 copies of expressive iteration in the 75 is crazy to me.
Yeah except most longtime U players already have snaps. And if they are like me paid much less than current price for them.
Even if you buy them now instead of when they were much cheaper, they're $55 vs $75 USD for Ragavan on tcg, which is $80 difference for a playset.
Leagues are on modo though, so comparing those prices it's 3.73tix vs 115.54tix.
When I read this first I thought of [[snap]] instead of [[snapcaster mage]] and almost had a heart attack
Haha not modern legal unfortunately. Though I had one played against me in an FNM a week ago, which was an awkward conversation.
I've been working on that deck and trading ideas with that pilot for a few weeks now. E.I. is just a two mana draw one too often. And we aren't running Unholy Heat so we aren't concerned about the sorcery type. It's a great card, it's just clunky in this shell.
Jacob had a list with three that he liked, but he's off it again.
Oh cool. I guess it sort of makes sense with no 1 drops but still hitting a land is a 2-for-1 and digging to the appropriate answers is pretty big game in a control deck id imagine.
Additionally, why no chalices in the sideboard? Is the cascade matchup really that good?
The problem is you have to tap out in the mid/early game to get them out of your hand to make your land drops. That's been super awkward for me. I could see playing one, but multiples felt like a pain.
Flusterstorm is better imo than Chalice as it can't be Petty Theft'ed back to hand or Force of Negation'ed. It also has strong applications in other matchups. As far as the match ups go, I'd say Living End is unfavored, evoked Grief is tough and you almost never win if they sneak through a Living End.
Rhinos is favored though, no Griefs and you have outs to resolved Footfalls. I'm also on two EE in the side which helps a lot!
*Edit, I suppose Flusterstorm can be Forced, but you know what I'm trying to say...
I would say of the two, flusterstorm is less generically powerful than chalice, but it may be that cascade is the only bad matchup of the times chalice is useful. IIRC the control mirror is the toughest right?
The control mirror is tough, but elementals is also up there. It's almost impossible to with without Blood Moon.
Huh, it's that Mono R Eldrazi list again... It looks pretty sweet and not too expensive, considering that some of the most expensive cards are already "staples". Might give it a try at my next FNM.
Is the scraper open source? Would like to do a little more analytics work on some modern data.
that esper list is sick. interesting choice of cards.
[[Faithful Mending]] looks hot in this deck!
Ayyy pensword is back
Honest question since I can’t figure it out by myself, wtf Darcy stands for?
It's probably the stupidest nickname to ever get made for an MTG card.
Dragon Rage Channeler. DRC sounds like Darcy
There's no logical reason its Darcy. DRC is shorter, and actually refers to the card itself. And then you didn't know which makes it a horrible nickname
It's Darcy because if you say DRC a few times it starts sounding like Darcy. DRC is also really annoying to say out loud and Darcy just sounds smoother so everyone went with that.
Lol it’s not even *close* to the dumbest nickname for a card. I’m still not totally sure which card “Tim” is. Luckily I know who “bob” is at least.
DRC sounds like Darcy. That’s way more plausible. It’s also fewer syllables.
"Tim" was [[Prodigal Sorcerer]]. So named because the art reminded people of Tim the Enchanter in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Back in the day, that movie was part of the nerd canon, along with Star Wars/Trek and Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
[Prodigal Sorcerer](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/5/0/50aef269-55f9-4d84-8bc5-29e794297f11.jpg?1580014085) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Prodigal%20Sorcerer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ema/67/prodigal-sorcerer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/50aef269-55f9-4d84-8bc5-29e794297f11?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text)
^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
People should just spell it DRC and pronounce it Darcy.
This is the way
Lol there's obviously a logical explanation. DRC is three syllables and Darcy is one so it's easier to say.
How so you get one syllable? It's two.
It’s only shorter if you mostly type and not say it. DRC is 3 syllables and Darcy is 2. I don’t personally care, but there is a reason to it.
Considering this is Reddit. There's no reason its Darcy and not DRC
Can even just say "Darcy" orally when saying it aloud, but for it to be Darcy in text is just silly
Lmao honest question honest answer. Tyvm brother
New to Esper Reanimator, what cards do you tutor off of [[Gifts Ungiven]]?
Typically the trick is that you pick only archon and unburial rites, forcing them to put both in the GY.
yeah either this or Gifts, Counterspell, Tef, Prismatic for value. Also late enough in the game you can get Archon, Unburial Rites, Faithful Mending, and anything and then you can Mending the archon and the rites into the yard while drawing two more cards
[Gifts Ungiven](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/4/b/4b11f693-716e-41de-a0ea-2a5178a284dc.jpg?1627449105) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gifts%20Ungiven) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mm3/40/gifts-ungiven?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4b11f693-716e-41de-a0ea-2a5178a284dc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text)
^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Lotsa fun decks. Although I kind of wonder where the "DRS/Twin/Copter homogenizes the format, let's ban it" mentality went, what with Ragavan and Lurrus . . .
I definitely wouldn't mind a Lurrus ban/companion ban. That feels like the most homogenizing card.
It's not like it hurts the format, but man is it a complete turnaround, especially from Once Upon a Time only a couple sets before Lurrus
Stuff like that is a constant circle. They’ll keep shifting perpetually until every tier 3 jank brew works.
Its harder to argue homogeneity whenever Lurrus fits into *eight* different color pairs and Ragavan can go in literally any red deck. There's no one deck that uses all these parts, many multiples do.
And they're not dominant either. Plenty of other decks exist and do well in Modern which is another mark against the homogeneity argument.
However, I do think it's a discussion that can be had. Only a blind person would say that there aren't multiple decks using the DRC/Rag/Lurrus core. But I don't think it's stifling, oppressive, or even the best thing to be doing in Modern right now. I'd probably give Hammertime, Rhinos, or Murktide that title and none of them use the entire core mentioned here (though Murktide is close, no Lurrus).
Lurrus is just free for a bunch of decks because a lot of the best cards in Modern (and older formats in general) are 0-2 mana. If you banned Lurrus I'm not sure how much those decks change outside a smattering of powerful 3 drop planeswalkers like Teferi/Liliana. As you said, it doesn't feel that oppressive. It's more that they are leveraging Lurrus+Bauble/Delirium, and in that case I'd say Bauble is the more problematic card.
If they ban bauble, 100% they'll end up banning lurrus less than a year later.
I still think its fine, its a cool card, IMO we need more powerful 3 and 4 drops in modern as an incentive to not play lurrus.
I don't think so. I think Lurrus usage would go WAY down without Bauble. Most match ups you can't even afford to pay for it without dying, pretty much just the Lurrus mirrors it matters.
Copter is *colorless,* and DRS also fit into 8 different color pairs(not to mention 9 shards/wedges). That's part of the homogneity problem -- so many decks *can* run it.
And no, they're no dominant. It's definitely not like they're breaking modern or even really pushing other decks out of the format. I just find it slightly annoying when they banned stuff for homogenization even through Eldraine(once upon a time), and then they printed Lurrus and the whole concept disappeared. *Two sets* before Lurrus, they banned cards for homogenization.
hhahaha that also just happened with Uro/field/mystic sanctuary.
They all like it because they are playing those decks.
Seeing teferi in spirits, or anything really, but especially spirits makes me sick
He's hated that much now?? I'm coming back to the Modern scene. I feel like Unholy Heats keeps PWs in check now.
Doesn't matter to me if he's killed for free by every spell in MTG from now on. He's a miserable card
Actually teferi in spirits is pretty ok, I used to play a copy before the deck switched to solo creatures after the printing of skyclave. The interaction with spell queller is sick
It's about I being good or not. It's just such a garbage designed card
WHENEVER I SEE A LIST WITH HAMMER OF BOGARDAN IN MODERN MAKING A 5-0 I WILL MENTION IT WITH CAPS , I DON'T CARE , I AM FUCKING HAPPY
\[\[Hammer of Bogardan\]\] and \[\[Pillage\]\]? What year is this?
Those cards have been standard in MHayashi red since MH1.