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Daily Deals - September 8, 2021: GEM $TONK$ 💎 🙌

Daily Deals - September 8, 2021: GEM $TONK$ 💎 🙌

Weenaru

Did those stonks offers always have that "XX% OFF!" mark?


Ragnar_Darkmane

Gems and Gold deals never had that. I think the gem symbol for the deal is different as well.


HamBoneRaces

Happy Stonk Day! It’s been [24 Days](https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicArena/comments/p4v2t4/daily_deals_august_15_2021_gem_tonk/) since we last had gems as a daily deal, which is considerably sooner than the approximate 45 days between gem offerings. Perhaps a small reparation for the state of the client lately? 🤔 The general rule with gems and gold offered in the daily deal is to always buy them with gold. The value of gems and gold is usually determined by packs (1000 gold vs 200 gems, a 5:1 ratio) or drafts (5000 gold vs 750 gems, a 6.67:1 ratio). So for today’s deal you can spend either 300 gems or 1,500 gold. If you are a drafter, spending gems is a bad deal. If you buy packs, it is exactly even. But despite it being even, gems are harder to acquire and some items like the Mastery Pass and special events require them, so you should save your gems and spend gold instead. Item|Gems|Gold :---|:---:|:---: 400 Gems|300|1,500 [[Faceless Haven]]|500|2,500 [[Blood on the Snow]]|500|2,500 [[Feed the Swarm]]|200|1,000 [[Cinderclasm]]|60|300


MTGCardFetcher

##### ###### #### [Faceless Haven](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/e/3/e3cd82e5-6072-4334-a493-01ca4ad6b4eb.jpg?1631052709) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Faceless%20Haven) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/255/faceless-haven?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e3cd82e5-6072-4334-a493-01ca4ad6b4eb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Blood on the Snow](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/d/8/d8606f40-0af4-443b-a413-a88dc3e8f32e.jpg?1631047655) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blood%20on%20the%20Snow) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/79/blood-on-the-snow?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d8606f40-0af4-443b-a413-a88dc3e8f32e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Feed the Swarm](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/9/7/97ba4f5c-6336-49ed-bea4-90b745276284.jpg?1625976957) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Feed%20the%20Swarm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/144/feed-the-swarm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/97ba4f5c-6336-49ed-bea4-90b745276284?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Cinderclasm](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/5/5/5516cf97-805f-4a21-a4c6-2d6e55865336.jpg?1604196918) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cinderclasm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/znr/136/cinderclasm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5516cf97-805f-4a21-a4c6-2d6e55865336?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


BelisariusKOV

Claimed! Thx.


Alice-Planque

Gems ! 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳


MisterMagellan

Faceless Haven AND Blood on the Snow?? Well there goes a chunk of gold I've been saving up.


krimsonstudios

You know you're ~ a week away from a new set when the Daily Deals starting becoming actually worthwhile.


Knightofberenike

Fuck it. Ima just spend it all on cards I’m already using lol


Amaginj

Newbie here, is it the actual card or just the covers on the card? TIA


Grainnnn

Just a skin, not the card itself.


Amaginj

Thanks. Appreciate the clarification.


FatScout

Never buy cosmetics. Packs are a 100 times more worthwhile.


Syn7axError

Yeah but I like cosmetics.


zone-zone

depends some bling is nice


RatRaceSobreviviente

It's new art for the face of the card not a sleave for the back.


nickhem12

I know right?! Crafty basterds before a release aren’t they…


Seven_pile

Yeah, I’ve been saving like mad. But it’s like “dammit you did this on purpose didn’t you”


Billionpig

Well at least BotS will have a nice little shimmer before it wipes my board and gives them back [[Lolth, Spider Queen]]. Good cards and stonks though.


MTGCardFetcher

[Lolth, Spider Queen](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/4/2/420a5689-d73e-4dda-82fd-8b8897ff5b55.jpg?1628185302) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Lolth%2C%20Spider%20Queen) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/112/lolth-spider-queen?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/420a5689-d73e-4dda-82fd-8b8897ff5b55?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


PfefferUndSalz

Doesn't even hit their Lolth if they use the creature wipe, it would actually give her extra loyalty.


kruis

No they're saying they killed opponents Lolth, then opponent bots and gets their Lolth back


MrPopoGod

I maintain that Blood would be a much fairer card if the mode for the wipe was the mode for the reanimate.


jrosen9

I actually thought that was how it worked when I first read the card.


DoonFoosher

Right but Lolth could be in the graveyard when it’s cast for them to get it back.


DegenerateChefYYZ

Quick background… I just started playing arena about 9 months ago, and it’s my first experience with mtg (other than buying a couple paper packs as a young kid because I thought they looked cool) and I’m having a lot of fun. I saved up my gems for as long as I could and was able to afford the mastery pass a few releases ago. Since then I’ve fallen in love with drafting, stopped using my daily challenge coins on packs and started using them for quick drafting. At this point I’m around roughly 5 or 6k gems. What should I be spending my gems on other than new mastery passes? Should I be using them for drafts? My usually plan is to keep playing standard until I have 5000 coins from the challenges, then use them on a quick draft. I feel like that’s a good way to spend the coins but with my gems starting to accumulate I’m considering spending them on drafts. What do you guys think?


zgard

Draft is cheaper if you use gems. So go for it! Mastery Pass is good because of mythics ICRs and the draft token (considering you're reaching final level and getting some gems back).


DegenerateChefYYZ

So far I’ve hit final level on every pass I’ve bought. I play almost every day and am about to crack mythic in standard. I’d feel really bad if I spent gems on a quick draft only to go 0-3 but I feel like it’s the only thing to spend those gems on


zgard

Even getting 0-3 isn't that bad if you rare draft. Of course considering you're quick drafting. I made some math and for the current set (using my personal data) and a pack (rare or mythic) costs only 80gems rare drafting in quick drafts. So it's waaaay better than spending 200gems in the store.


Zeiramsy

Welcome to the life of a degenerate drafter! Assuming you don't care about cosmetics too much, there really is only two things to put your gems on: events (mainly drafts) and mastery pass. Assuming you'll be able to reach max level mastery pass is very worth it. However for me drafts is where it's at. I usually use my gold for phantom drafts (like cube) which are fun but don't reward gems or quick drafts to convert gold to gems. Gems I really spend on drafting all day every day. Premier until I hit my ranked plateau (for me between. Plat 1 and Diamond 4) and then Trad only. I don't find saving for mastery passes to be very important as I'm mostly gem positive over all drafts and convert all my gold to gems as well.


Rainfall7711

You should just draft if you're having fun. Probably wait for the new set now though unless you really, really wasnt to draft now. Depending on your win rate, at some point you should definitely graduate from bot drafts to Traditional draft or Premier too. I basically exclusively play Traditional(Bo3), because i like that format better and it's actually more gem efficient, but Bo1 is the human, ranked upgrade to quick draft if you want that. Here's a spreadsheet to see how efficient each draft is, you can input your win rate. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LnHUonQl8K8Aa_U0SMgNZU5xk2_5Sjqan4mce2tAutA/edit#gid=0


DegenerateChefYYZ

I’ve started spending gems on quick draft am having a lot of fun. Even if I go 0-3 it’s still worth. If but I never do!


asdfghjkl92

welcome to the limited only club! if you like sealed i would save up gems a bit for that as you can't spend gold on it (usually available at the start of a new set), there's also some special draft/ sealed events that you might want to save for (arena open is sometimes sealed, occasionally theres a high stakes draft event that rewards draft tokens instead of gold). but apart from that yeah drafts are fine to spend gems on. thats what i spend most of mine on. if you're having fun with quick draft consider trying premier draft sometimes. you draft against people instead of bots and it has a different feel to the drafting portion. more strategy about noticing patterns about what you're getting passed so you can kinda figure out what decks are open. it's timed though so you want to be somewhat familiar with the cards first. the top end for rewards is also better but low end is worse than quick draft. i prefer quick/ premier to traditional but you can also try that, it's best of three and you can adjust your deck between matches (e.g. remove slow cards if your opponent has a fast deck, add artifact removal if they have lots of good artifacts etc.). traditional draft can't be entered with gold i think, only gems. only spend tokens on premier or traditional if you get any btw.


LancesAKing

I had the same question as you a few months ago, so I ended up spending my gems on draft. Then Arena had an event to draft that costs 3k gems but the rewards are multiple draft tokens and packs. I wish I saved for that event, so I’d like to keep 6k in stock for when the event repeats for MID.


Vivi_O

Now fix the Mastery Pass rewards bugs so we have something worth spending these gems on.


Mrqueue

Even with the bugs the mastery pass is very worth it


thewormauger

Only if you care about cosmetics


Yvanko

Lie


Wheel_of_Toast

bug?


Vivi_O

- Draft tokens not being rewarded - Mythic ICRs not being duplicate protected - ICR rewards for levels above 80 not being granted correctly, or just missing entirely


Heine-Cantor

I bought the pass today and got the draft token, I don't know about the other two.


Canud

I’ve got 3 ebondeath, Dracolith. I hate this card!


Lopeyok

Mine kept alternating between Ebondeath and Acererak until I had a playset of each.


juantxuu

Yeah, rewards are bloody rigged.


stozball

For what it's worth, after I completed the mastery pass and opened all my packs from drafting I was rare-complete in AFR . The only Mythic I had zero copies of was Ebondeath.


ramonvanbelzen

Worked for me


Chubiruba

You didn't complete your pass yet? Oof


Vivi_O

Not sure how that is relevant, but I finished the pass weeks ago. Doesn't make the bugs any less unacceptable.


zone-zone

Some people are new to the game


Chubiruba

I guess they didn't catch the quadruple xp wheel reset weekend


zone-zone

I caught it and I am still not finished. Since you know, I just started playing.


Nectaria_Coutayar

I went on holidays, so I didn't play MTGA. So no, I didn't complete this pass.


Shx_me

Dam Jumpstart leaving me with only 1450 gold after all daily wins. 😪


Ragnar_Darkmane

That's why you always keep at least a 1k Gold reserve, ideally 1.5k.


KLT1003

I usually keep 10k in case they offer the draft token in the store again (that has been a while hasn't it?)


HamBoneRaces

The last time it was offered was [Feb 15](https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicArena/comments/lkgk6m/daily_deals_february_15_2021_draft_token_assorted/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) and prior to that was [Dec 24](https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicArena/comments/kjhraw/daily_deals_122420/).


Ragnar_Darkmane

I think you can reduce your stockpile to 2k, there hasn't been a draft token on offer since winter. They've discontinued them. And even if there is another one, a 5k stockpile is enough.


Salanmander

On the other hand, if you're interested in participating in the Arena Opens, those are *massively* discounted if you use gold, and it takes a long time to build up that much gold.


stozball

The draft token on December 24th was 9000, so I'd suggest either a 9000 or 10000 gold stockpile. We haven't had them for quite a while but it's possible we will get one at Christmas again.


KLT1003

And luckily for us, the draft token is back with 10% off today :D


CookieLeader

I don't think it's ever going to happen again, sadly.


KLT1003

Luckily enough, the Draft token returned with 10% off today :D


CookieLeader

Hooray! Hope you didn't spend those 10k you were keeping!


KLT1003

Only for the draft token ;) Now I got to start saving up again.


Gabster_theswede

I wish we could send gold to other player. I think we all deserve stonks


trumpetofdoom

Sounds like you need to get on early tomorrow.


LoudTool

Go to the casino (Standard Event). You have enough gold for 2 tries in Bo1.


Shx_me

A good idea but I'm WAY too casual for that gauntlet.


Tiincho002

You can do a quest tomorrow before the daily deals change


Shx_me

Thank you. I remembered that later, but first I had to be salty with the only group of people who would know what I was talking about. It just reminded me of the several times I've been 50 gems short of buying the season pass and having to grind for another quick draft. Thank for being genuinely helpful.


LemmingOnTheRunITG

S T O N K S


zone-zone

How good is cinderclasm? Looks cool, but seems worse than Crush the Weak


kaplani

Crush the Weak is sorcery speed. Cinderclasm is played in Jeskai Mutate and Izzet Control. Is a meh card but red doesn't have a lot of options for wraths right now.


zone-zone

Wraths? I am currently playing Izzet Dragons and started playing Crush because of all the mono white and mono green spam


kaplani

Wrath is Magic slang for a spell that kills multiple creatures. From the original [Wrath of God](https://scryfall.com/card/lea/45/wrath-of-god).


LarkLoone

Aw fuck gold is so not safe today.


sobrique

I think this may be the first time I've bought all 5 of the daily deals.


Zarathustra30

I'm still recovering from the snow lands. Edit: and the Nyx lands. I may have a problem.


MoonLightSongBunny

Good! I need to start saving for the Neon Dinasty Pass.


ManicHS

[[Faceless Haven]] lures unsuspecting victims into its cave. It then attacks the victim leaving [[Blood on the Snow]]. The victim's body is used to [[Feed the Swarm]] living near Faceless. But wait, surprise! The victim's body is used to cast [[Cinderclasm]] vaporizing the swarm.


PappaJul

What did it use to lure them you ask? Well discount gems of course.


ManicHS

Ah shit! That's good! I'll do better tomorrow.


MTGCardFetcher

##### ###### #### [Faceless Haven](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/e/3/e3cd82e5-6072-4334-a493-01ca4ad6b4eb.jpg?1631052709) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Faceless%20Haven) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/255/faceless-haven?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e3cd82e5-6072-4334-a493-01ca4ad6b4eb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Blood on the Snow](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/d/8/d8606f40-0af4-443b-a413-a88dc3e8f32e.jpg?1631047655) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blood%20on%20the%20Snow) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/79/blood-on-the-snow?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d8606f40-0af4-443b-a413-a88dc3e8f32e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Feed the Swarm](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/9/7/97ba4f5c-6336-49ed-bea4-90b745276284.jpg?1625976957) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Feed%20the%20Swarm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/144/feed-the-swarm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/97ba4f5c-6336-49ed-bea4-90b745276284?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Cinderclasm](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/5/5/5516cf97-805f-4a21-a4c6-2d6e55865336.jpg?1604196918) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cinderclasm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/znr/136/cinderclasm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5516cf97-805f-4a21-a4c6-2d6e55865336?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Kyouka66

Gems Day on a Hump Day


subliminimalist

Something about that Cinderclasm style looks REALLY cool. I don't play Cinderclasm. I don't plan on playing Cinderclasm, but I bought that style.


Riker87

Cash for gold is always a good deal.


Robiss

Damn I just used 5k gold for a draft :(


Ragnar_Darkmane

That's why you always keep at least a 1500 Gold reserve before daily deals hit.


Druid_Atheria

Sooo 400 gems cost 400 gems regularly? Wtf?


Jackeea

Yes, that is how prices of things work


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owmyheadhurt

how do some card styles have anything to do with that


LoonyPlatypus

In historic Stonks-stonks! Faceless haven - playable in low colored decks, most notably monoblack aggro and elves. The best of the cards on offer. Blood on the snow-sadly too big and clunky for the format and the environment will only get worse for it with time. People have tried it though when it came out. Feed the swarm - extremely narrow one. Can see occasional play in low color black decks. Also, maybe if deaths shadow becomes a thing. Cinderclasm-4th or 5th beat 3 mana red “boardwhipe”. Maybe will see some sideboard play in some theoretical heavy drc+delver meta, but tbh I don’t believe in it.


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Brokewood

> Disagree about Blood on the Snow being too big and clunky for the format (‘22 Standard). I’m running 68% win rate on Blk/Grn Snow Control. First line specifies "In historic"


feliscat

BotS is great in standard, too expensive in historic


jlaw54

Yeah. It’s fun in H Brawl though at least.


LoonyPlatypus

Historic is not 22 standard. I only evaluate cards for competitive side of historic. I don’t play standard at all.


DetchiOsvos

*Gold in DANGER! Alert - Gold will be SPENT!* Dang, 3 hits on Daily Deal, been awhile.


Injuredmind

yay, gems that can be used to buy mastery levels


ins1der

You can buy mastery levels?


democappy

You can. You shouldn't, but you can.


ins1der

Never even seen the option


gdavidson3

Gme earnings


kayzil

So wizards of the coast is realizing people are not paying for their dumb game isn’t it?


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razrcane

I don't buy the packs for 900gold but I still welcome the chance to turn gold into gems.


intadtraptor

I mean it'd still be +EV.


PopularBort

And mastery pass Mythic rewards no longer duplicate protected, YAAAAAAAY


n1nj4_v5_p1r4t3

I love when they sneak in gold for sale for gold. Its a gift to those who just look


WilsonRS

Its conditioning to make people look. Personally, I never look, so sometimes miss out. But I'm addicted to social media, so sometimes see the posts, lol. Its part of the reason for daily win rewards, conditioning. But variable reward such as this are the most effective.


KingMerrygold

Lol, yeah, it's conditioning me to check reddit, for sure.


chabonki

Only if assest error stop happening


TrueBlue726

I used the gems that I got at a discount to help pay for Blood on the Snow. Sure wish I hadn't bought the style for Faceless Haven at regular price but hey, you live you learn. Decided to skip the other two as I don't use them much.


megachad3000

Bah I just spend most of my coins on that jumpstart crap


Ashranaman

To people buying non permanents paralax card styles, why ?


derelictprophet

They look cool in my hand.


aznatheist620

Fuck you for asking


WolfGuy77

Is it bad that I actually don't want to spend the 1500 gold?? I only have 20k gold saved up for Innistrad thanks to Jumpstart. :(


bulksalty

Yes, this is an opportunity to turn 0.3 drafts into 0.53 drafts. You should take it.


Zeiramsy

1500 gold is one day worth of daily wins and quests. So even if you have a bad quest roll and don't want to grind above 4 wins you'll get that in 2 days of playing so more than enough time to get back to 20K before MID.


redditfanfan00

big.


ChoochVR

Decent deal I’ll take it.


KrIsPy_Kr3m3

Stop encouraging the arena devs, making them think this is a super deal and we are happy with it


Francesca_Hana

$TONK$


MTGSpeculation

stonks!