Isn't loam a rg land archetype ?


Prison first and foremost. Your plan A is to deny your opponent from whatever their plan is except for a few matchups where the fast combo is the only way to win, usually vs combo decks. Given the choice of using your mana to turn off your opponent's stuff via Wasteland or port or Punishing Fire etc, or going for aggressive Marit Lage / Saga tokens, it's usually correct to control the opponent first and then kill them with whatever you have left over.


Grindy prison control / mana denial with a combo


**Lands is what I would call "Active" Prison-Combo.** It is first and foremost a prison deck, that seeks to lock out the opponent from doing things through cards like [[The Tabernacle and Pendrell Vale]], [[Wasteland]], and [[Maze of Ith]]. The "combo" addendum comes from the fact the deck usually kills through a combo like Depths + Stage these days. It's not like Metalworker Prison where the only wincons are to beat the opponent to death with a 1/2 or have them deck themself. Finally, "Active" is a term I use to indicate the fact that most of the lock pieces have to be actively maintained. You have to keep playing and using [[Wasteland]], [[Rishidan Port]] or [[Ghost Quarter]] to lock out the opponents mana. You have to keep playing [[Punishing Fire]] to kill the creatures, etc. If you forget to do said actions, the lock is broken. This is in contrast to lock pieces like [[Trinisphere]] which are largely play and forget. In terms of placing it under Aggro/Control/Combo, it belongs under the Control Moniker, as it seeks to control the game then kill at its own leisure.


##### ###### #### [The Tabernacle and Pendrell Vale](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/6/4/64bc9b1d-5818-4d9e-b771-e49af4ff9a5c.jpg?1562859203) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Tabernacle%20at%20Pendrell%20Vale) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me3/212/the-tabernacle-at-pendrell-vale?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cd3f7f4e-cb25-4121-96a0-a4dc530420b9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Wasteland](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/a/a/aaafb9bc-7cea-4624-a227-595544fa42b0.jpg?1590511888) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wasteland) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ema/248/wasteland?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/aaafb9bc-7cea-4624-a227-595544fa42b0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Maze of Ith](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/7/8/78114f25-f40a-4e2e-bf89-29ea9b3500e2.jpg?1599710557) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Maze%20of%20Ith) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/322/maze-of-ith?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/78114f25-f40a-4e2e-bf89-29ea9b3500e2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Rishidan Port](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/d/2/d2507bc2-da17-4e46-b4c5-ba0080ce2c6f.jpg?1562441604) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rishadan%20Port) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/246/rishadan-port?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d2507bc2-da17-4e46-b4c5-ba0080ce2c6f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Ghost Quarter](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/1/2/12f8071c-8955-4aa2-889c-6043df047223.jpg?1562272439) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ghost%20Quarter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cm2/253/ghost-quarter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/12f8071c-8955-4aa2-889c-6043df047223?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Punishing Fire](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/b/3/b381d3c4-b318-4dff-a214-8a16a3872107.jpg?1592713604) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Punishing%20Fire) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmd/131/punishing-fire?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b381d3c4-b318-4dff-a214-8a16a3872107?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Trinisphere](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/3/1/316caa4e-a53a-460b-978c-5f0fba7bc549.jpg?1599710205) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Trinisphere) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/303/trinisphere?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/316caa4e-a53a-460b-978c-5f0fba7bc549?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


I always thought of it is control combo. Less so on the combo side of things with Field of the Dead and Urza’s Saga now


It is a prison deck that uses a fast combo finish when it lacks inevitability.


Lands is control. It doesn’t have prison elements (besides tabernacle) it’s gameplan is about answering threats not pre-empting them which is red aggro’s plan


It’s not to dissimilar to a tempo control deck with how it abuses exploration to play wasteland and an additional land both setting you back while propelling themselves forward. Eeking out every advantage possible.


>tempo control deck Read this to die instantly


Why? Does it not lean closer towards the control than the aggro side of tempo?


I think the tempo part is where you’re wrong. Tempo is usually aggro with control elements. There are no aggro cards in the lands deck.


I’ve definitely seen thick saga tokens very early. But I suppose you’re right. Even if you Marit Lage it’s more combo than aggro.


Depending on whether you're on a saga build or a depths build, it's either (in order of primacy of game plan): combo-midrange-toolbox-prison-control (depths) or midrange-toolbox-combo-control-prison.


I chuckled pretty hard at this. I appreciate the laugh.