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kiri-kiri-kiri

Reddit worst base for MMA


socksonplates

The narwhal really baconed at midnight for Frank.


classysuplexfiesta

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU


Nickolai1993

I had to check your account and yeah, you would definitely understand that.


OCOWAx

I had to check your account and yeah, you would definitely understand that.


djd457

Yeah i mean i never have known when the frig the narwhal would have baconed man thanks for letting me know


LuckyWarrior

Facing a mexican block head dont help either


purplehendrix22

Never box with a Mexican, it’s hazardous for your health


ConfidenceNo2598

History supports these facts


derps_with_ducks

Never fight a land war in Asia.


SALTYtendon

He didn’t even have a big head tho


gill_outean

But he Mexican.


Nonmockaccount

I'll bet he at least knows what a corvid is


studiocel

You guys should have learned from Ben Askren


ImKrispy

What do you mean? I could choke you out with this comment.


Sweaty_Nerf_Thighs

Poor Frank. The commentators talked up his improved defense but honestly all he did was put his hands up. No head movement, no footwork, didn't try to parry or stifle the hands or whatever...I don't know what the improved defense was supposed to be


greggosmith

Its how he always fights and its hard to watch the eventual TKO each time


Pill_Murray_

guess you cant get the best training partners when you live on a 5x11 Mile island


AggravatingBison8562

Buffer telling me to order at manscaped hurts, stop telling me to shave my pubes Bruce


I_can_hear_Jimi

It's time, to shave your bush


stoopid_stoodent

I heard this in BB voice and couldn't stop laughing


Astroboyy7

Camacho used the undefeated strategy of blocking all of the punches with his face


imnotsteven7

Camacho has never been the same since he lost to Kaleb Cruz. After that beating he took, he lost his next 3.


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imnotsteven7

Kaleb was nice enough to expunge it from his record.


imnotsteven7

https://youtu.be/MUFNpLmbNVc


_Plasssticbag_

Suddenly switching to the rapid fire nut shot for the finish killed me.


TheEmeraldOil

Haven't seen that one since UFC 4


JanitorJasper

That kid beats the shit out of half this sub


Vunks

Face to foot style how you like it.


IoniKryptonite

I'm bleeding...making me the victor!


gill_outean

Cabbage style.


Jealous-Swimmer-5543

he's a fellow redditor, be nice :(


UnluckyRandomGuy

He's 2-6 in the UFC he's just not good lol


Godfreee

Probably in the elite 1% in the world to even get in the UFC much less go on a main card. If you have ever stepped into a combat sports ring at any level, even amateur, you know. It's like any random NBA pro that sits on a bench the whole season can torch the best amateur ballers in the world.


double_expressho

[Scalabrine challenge](https://youtu.be/BYsrDDfaF38)


Tito_Otriz

Yea but if you're talking about NBA it makes sense to say that the player sitting on the bench the whole season isn't very good. If he's on the bench he's bad relative to the rest of the team, it's not helpful to compare him to armatures Like if you're watching a kids soccer game and one player is particularly good, you don't have to be like "he sucks because he's a child but he doesn't suck as much as the other kids." You can just say he's good because the context is obvious


Dry__Barracuda

better than any of us


[deleted]

He’s a professional MMA fighter. We’re not. It’s a lot bigger deal for him to be bad at MMA than it is for us.


[deleted]

I'm just blown away that MMA fans still use the "pro fighter is better than you at fighting" argument as if we didn't know that lmao


throwmeawayintothe1

I think it's the "he's just not good lol" comment. He's won two fights in the UFC and is \_probably\_ better at fighting than everyone on this subreddit. He's clearly good at fighting, but not in the UFC.


UnluckyRandomGuy

Aljo is on here but yeah he's obviously better than basically everyone including myself. That doesn't mean you can't also say he isn't objectively just not a good MMA fighter. If the only comeback is that he's better than the average redditer that doesn't really help your case


remoteman_aus

> objectively just not a good mma fighter Dude may have lost more than he’s won in the UFC but he’s still won a couple and that’s more than most pro fighters will ever win in the UFC. Objectively, he’s a good mma fighter, regardless of whether he’s capable of becoming ranked in the ufc, he’s stayed in for 8 fights.


throwmeawayintothe1

It's easy to say this and gloss over the fact that he's 22-10 and that it takes another level of competing to win in the UFC. A sack of bricks can admit he's better than an average redditer. Pretty sure he's better than a lot of "pro" fighters too.


Pactae_1129

Carwin too


no_no_NO_okay

Think Carwin was banned actually, forget why


AreYouDaftt

Objectively he is a good fighter, the fuck are you on about. He's better than the average *fighter*, the average redditor is barely capable of touching their own toes.


UnluckyRandomGuy

Yeah comparing a pro fighter to a Redditor doesn't exactly help the pro fighters case


FarohGaming

We are talking about his performance/record in the UFC. it's 2-6. Which is not good. The point you're making just makes it seem like you don't understand context.


throwmeawayintothe1

Who the fuck is we? "He's 2-6 in the UFC he's just not good lol" did you misinterpret this comment? He's 22-10 in professional fighting, he's a good fighter, what do you not understand about this? It takes fighting on another level to compete in the UFC, the dude has competed 8 times and has won twice. Clearly, fucking clearly, he's the opposite of "he's just not good lol."


onexia

That was a long way to say you're not understanding the context.


HankHilliams

Context, my friend. Look into it.


AreYouDaftt

Read the next comment up, dude said he is not good at MMA, didn't specify ufc. Something about context


mrtuna

I don't think anyone who makes it to the ufc in that weight class is "bad at mma"


Dry__Barracuda

but he’s also one of us


AreYouDaftt

He's not bad at MMA is the point genius. And plenty of us train, a few people here are even pro. You just have no idea the levels and how good these guys actually are


Walkuerenschluck

"in the UFC" vs "just not good" The cognitive dissonance of online losers is hilarious.


barc0debaby

CM Punk confirmed good at MMA. Or ya know when people say that it's in the context of comparing to a fighter's peers...


HankHilliams

Your lack of understanding of context is also hilarious.


Qanimal

You’re not good.


I_eat_Chimichangas

I’m bad I just watch and comment


IAMmartinbrundle

One of those wins he missed weight, too. I'm still dirty about that dodgy split decision win he took over Damien Brown in Australia haha.


LinuxF4n

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY2nVQNlUB8


figyg

Absolutely beautiful boxing I'm gonna keep my eye out for this guy


Unerring_Grace

Fast, heavy hands, but didn't load up to deliver his power shots. Definitely a guy worth watching.


bicyclechief

His Jab was solid


Resident_Track_80

Best translator in the game


Pill_Murray_

man speaks spanish, english, and portugese?? UFC needs to keep him on the books


dillo159

Portuguese and Spanish are very similar, to be fair.


thedudehasabided

Why are you getting down voted? They're more than very similar, they're 90% similar.


dillo159

Haha, I know. I speak Spanish and can understand a lot of Portuguese hahahaha. Also bits of Italian. Maybe I should have linked something showing the fact they're so similar.


KlossN

Ryan "The Translator" Haywood


ARiemannHypothesis

Frank lasted way longer than I expected He was eating bombs all round fuckin hell


AtWorkAndOnReddit

One of the first times I have ever seen Herb Dean step in early and thank God he did


askneitele

he was about to hesitate, but seems like he has gotten better at that. If you step up between the fighters, just end it. Good call by him


ProfessionalSalad555

He has tightened up the Herb Dean shuffle, good to see him continuing to work on his game.


socksonplates

Herb has been on a solid run.


andybug153

Very true I can’t think of any controversy’s this year for him honesty.


Starob

My only issue is how many eye pokes and fence grabs etc. he misses like almost every single fight. If I was a fighter and got Herb as a ref, I'd be like, oh sweet free eye pokes.


Quinnett

It was a quick stoppage, but honestly it wasn’t going to get any better from there.


Master_Signature_191

Quick just in time stoppage torres also knew he had frank with those two punches, personally know torres he is from my home town and he is not going to hit the opponent more than he needs to very humble guy some people just like to see fighters get rocked more than they need to.


SpecialSause

So what you're saying is it wasn't an early stoppage? If the fighter was going to take unmitigated damage with no possibility of a better position, was the stoppage actually early?


Quinnett

I don’t have a problem with it, but when a fighter is sort of kind of trying to position himself to play defense on the mat, they usually let it go.


TheDigitalRuler

Love the stoppage here. Too often refs let a fighter take unnecessary shots in this kind of position.


watties12

You're still my boy Frank, thank you for another banger. Win or lose always a must watch fighter


RadBonez

I will never not root for Frank.


I_eat_Chimichangas

Me either but he needs to quit


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KRAndrews

You’re supposed to SEE red not turn red. Jesus this is why redditors have zero UFC champions smh 🤦🏻‍♂️


activeterror

we got aljo atleast


KillingMycroftly

Aljo representing


KRAndrews

Wait he’s on Reddit? My mannnnn


DOBRONXX

Sad


SALTYtendon

Typical redditor


WhyDoIHaveAnAccount9

very nice pull back counter


SquidDrive

Camacho fought his heart out but Torres was more accurate, and picked those necessary shots. Wishing both men best of luck!


EstradaMoses

F


opus_

Good stoppage, he was absorbing way too many shots there towards the end.


Lolrog

Good time for a stoppage, terrible stoppage itself. Herb should retire. Edit: Y'all are dumb, you cannot stutter step and hesitate as a MMA referee. The basis of your job is not hesitating in that moment. [Herb keeps doing it again,](https://imgur.com/a/oJO4jx2) and [again](https://imgur.com/a/gjf97L8) and [again](https://imgur.com/97Lm1pm)


duralyon

Forget these ratfucks I agree with yah.


TaffMiscReg

Bad time for a comment, terrible comment itself. You should retire.


chaosanddarkness

No. It was a good stoppage.


Lolrog

runs in, stops, stutter steps 6 times towards torres then decides to call it off. great stoppage.


chaosanddarkness

Literally made sure he was dazed and defenseless. Made sure he didn't take any damage. Yes. Great stoppage. You're complaining to just complain.


Lolrog

[yeah it couldn't be herb hesitating](https://imgur.com/a/gjf97L8) [he never does that](https://imgur.com/a/oJO4jx2) these both happened within the year...


chaosanddarkness

Every ref hesitates sometimes. That's an asinine statement. Each is an independent event. You're just looking for a reason to complain. Secondly, the second one he made sure she was dazed and in danger. She was still defending and that wasn't bad stoppage. Once he confirmed she wasn't fully there, he waved it off. First one is literally everyone's go to for him. Bad stoppage. Has nothing to do with this stoppage though.


Lolrog

[How about this one](https://imgur.com/97Lm1pm) Pretty easy to find Herb doing this. I can't find a single one of Herzog.


chaosanddarkness

You mean the guy who let Anthony Smith almost die?


Lolrog

Don't even get me started on Herb's late stoppages amigo. You said every ref hesitates. They don't.


NeverEndingHell

Ok true but the timing wasn’t bad this time lol


Lolrog

I literally said "good time for a stoppage, terrible stoppage itself"


NeverEndingHell

I know, I ain’t mad at ya


CsgoCdallas

What does that even mean


Lolrog

that it was the right time to stop the fight but herb needs to not hesitating and stutter stepping towards fighters


CsgoCdallas

Honestly it didn’t matter because it was half a second, but I see your point and I really hope that Herb change something or leave


ThreeOlivesChihuahua

Camacho was getting sent to the shadow realm, Torres was never gonna stop


Kopenslader

That was almost a classic Herb stoppage


Tenet_mma

Herb runs in like he is gonna finish the guy hahaha


ribbitrob

It still kinda was. He stepped in, then waited a beat before waiving his hands. Why? As the ref, if you step between the fighters, it’s over. That’s what caused the confusion during Ribas/Rodriguez.


remag_nation

> if you step between the fighters Herb steps toward them when Frank goes down. Herb then assess Frank on the ground, takes a step between the fighters and waves his hands. All of this takes place within 2 seconds. You'd have to be watching in slow motion, know the outcome already and be a redditor to do it better. Herb's made mistakes in the past but this wasn't one of them.


smithdog223

Why was Hadley vs. Nascimento never posted lol?


luxorone

Good effort frank u ain’t go out like no hoe! Kept moving forward till he got caught good thing there wasn’t no follow ups


Numba2thrilla

Sorta weird stoppage, but I dont disagree with the decision


kevindurantburner35

Don’t think he’d have stepped in had Camacho not already been pretty wobbly, I agree it was fair enough


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That wasn’t exactly *not* early


SALTYtendon

It was a good stoppage


TBurketMMA

I just wish herb wouldn't half heartedly step in. Stop it or don't.


Waxpapers

It should've been stopped but Dean did a bad job stopping it. He does a thing where he steps in between the fighters in a way that makes it look like he's calling off the fight without actually calling a stop.


elmoismyboy

I can’t remember what fight but I remember Mario Yamasaki just casually stepping in between fighters as one guy is getting finished but not actually stopping the fight.


thenatenator24

[Garbrandt vs Mendes](https://youtu.be/cjPq5ZMKeWI) Herb has been struggling with moments like this over the last couple years too; glad he actually stopped it after getting involved this time


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Mario just wanted a better angle before the finish.


heisennberg

Was that the one with Cody Garbrant? Cody drops the guy and Mario just walks between them, then let's Cody finish him with gnp


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It was definitely ambiguous enough to not be glaringly bad, hence my wording, I just think Camacho has a case for being upset with it


SALTYtendon

Dude was getting the shit beat out of him and then got knocked down badly. It was over not even on the line. He was done.


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Fair enough


NeverEndingHell

Not sure he’d have been “happier” with the follow up punches that would have undoubtedly put him to sleep.


RestartingMyLife0918

Herb "Hoover" Dean


Grateful_Gringo

Torres is my new fav fighter. Viva Mexico 🇲🇽


Jak_and_Daxter3

Knew the soy would be his downfall


Dry__Barracuda

Torres with the beautiful boxing combos and mexican granite chin


Dry__Barracuda

no hate on frank tho he’s still my boy


nvnehi

Really good stoppage that I'm sure will upset casual fans wanting to "let them bleed." He was getting caught too cleanly for an unranked fight.


purplehendrix22

Exactly, live to fight another day, we didn’t need to see him get slept


sellieba

That was a bar fight.


havla1312

El locoo, what a performance!


Grateful_Gringo

My new fav, Viva Mexico 🇲🇽


TheTrueHapHazard

I demand Torres vs Joel Alvarez next


JDGAF88

Surprised you weirdos aren't tagging his account here like you do Lauzon whenever he's brought up


migglywiggly69

I trained jiu jitsu with this guy in Tijuana, glad to see him get a sick KO for his debut


grooovyturtle

Damn. Way Frank was fighting he was practically begging to get KOd. It just looked inevitable halfway through the fight.


LTALDORAINETHEAPACHE

Our boy jus got massacred


matterhorn9

That was some matrix sh*t..amazing how he knew just to step back to avoid the end of that punch and unload a nice 1-2.


theschoolorg

because of this fight r/mma is removing the downvote button


King-Nicky

😭😭😭


SweetEthan7

Camacho, sorry… but you don’t belong anymore. Try out bellator ?


DislocatedXanax

Kinda happy Herb stopped it early, Camacho ate several shots leading up to that, Torres landed several clean uppercuts and while Camacho was landing his jab Torres just seemed to land his power more effectively.


rickyatetheravioli

Dropped and pulled guard, but dude was eating shots the last 4 minutes so god knows how much more unnecessary damage he would have taken. Goon on herb


aceknighthigh

Just bad defense and not enough offensive skill to make up for it.


horseshoeprovodnikov

God dammit Frank, my heart is broken. He looked good with the high guard at first, but after he got dinged, he abandoned it and couldn't keep himself from trading. I was begging him to shoot once Torres began pressing forward while throwing bombs.


thucydides2020

Second in a two horse race? Check No head movement? Check Hesitant to use what was always a barely passable jab? Check No need to ask who the Redditor is.


Gunslinger1991

Felt a little early for me.


EmilahM

Nah man, one of Herb’s best stoppages this year, Frank ate way too many clean shots, Frank didn’t seem to complain either.


purplehendrix22

He gave herb the little “ehh, not bad, not good” hand wiggle as he got up, from a fighter that’s as close as he’ll get to admitting he was done


Gunslinger1991

Aye he ate a fair amount of shots, but when he dropped he was looking at Torres right afterwards and seemed like he was still all there. Not the worst stoppage or anything like that, I just feel it could have went a little bit longer to see if he could have tied Torres up if he tried to follow him to the ground.


King-Kobra1

Frank Camacho u got KTFO


AggravatingBison8562

Punching underwater


ChrizTaylor

El Loco is a fucking beast, holly smokes.


Judas1878

The Tank got his ass handed to him.


askneitele

This Manuel guy has a fan in me... Such a simple soul. Made me smile just listening to him and you could feel his eyes hly shit


ChPvrMMIII

Not a lot of defense in this fight


CsgoCdallas

Anybody ready for the next fight, the bangerest banger?


Qanimal

Good win for Torres but he opened and finished every combo with looping hooks and his chin in the air.


k00pal00p

Awesome fight. Both were down to stand and trade


Jsp16

I’m headed to ufc subreddit from now on :(


Millionaire_

Frank, I know you'll read these. Enjoyed the fight and hope to see you out there again. Stay positive brother and ignore the bad comments. You've got what it takes.


logzee

😔


Davefromflushing

geez. Every time I happen to see a Camacho fight, he gets knocked the fuxk out.


midniteauth0r

Good stoppage by Herb.


Captcha_Imagination

Slick combo.


Hypeauditer

He's still our boy.


MilfsAreAwesome

Frank’s chin is gone.


gcbofficial

Ez call


Junibao

Torres' hands were like bricks connecting everytime he hit Camacho


SeeeVeee

Damnit


refik252

Frank is horrible


pez_oz

Why is this trash can still in the ufc? He's a punching bag and nothing more.