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TheTwoMorningPoops

A madness


JumpinJehosaphats

Is there anywhere I can watch highlights of this? ESPN is such trash


nautika

https://youtu.be/r-0Z0aGG310


mbauer8286

FC Cincinnati posted a highlight video on their Twitter account about an hour ago.


RockShrimp

Sounds like I picked a bad day to go see a play.


Seahawkanon

\- Abraham Lincoln


GoalooinSport

a good game.


gr3at3scap3

Got down to the Brenner offsides in the 89th minute in the comments and there were still 616 below that 🤣🤣


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Formation 0-5-5


cheerios729

I was at the match. One of the goals not called was offside (don’t really think it was but I didn’t get a good angel) the other should have been challenged because it was a goal. Also so many calls were missed…including the one that NYCFC “tossed” the ball to their player who was out of bounds and dropped in to kick. Legit one of the worst ref matches I’ve ever seen at the stadium.


inspecter77

I have no voice and my soul has left my body. I love this team


lebkong

Insane match to attend as a neutral. Disappointed there were only two legal goals in the 2nd half haha.


Phillyboy414

Union fan here, so even though I hate NYCFC, I believe I am neutral enough, maybe… That was one of the most obvious cases I’ve seen of match fixing in a while, I was at the game, and it was BAD. Saw this petition, feel free to sign, mostly jokes I think but still. https://chng.it/GS5GGgnBmh


lilchoiboy18

>even though I hate NYCFC, I believe I am neutral enough Lmao, never change Philly fans...


RhombusObstacle

"Match fixing," really?


Phillyboy414

Yeah, it seemed different from the usual bad reffing we see, and looked a lot like past match fixing I’ve seen


RhombusObstacle

I'll grant you that there was some wonkiness with the calls on the endlines, but "match fixing" seems like a gross overreaction. Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by incompetence. Did we get the better end of some iffy calls tonight? Yeah, sure. Have we been on the other side of those in the past? Absolutely. Look up Toronto's goalkeeper (Bono) punting the ball into the back of Medina's head last season, for instance. It went into the goal, and got disallowed, despite being 100% valid (as confirmed by PRO after the match, too late to benefit from it). I'm not saying the reffing was good, but that's a far cry from it being fixed.


Phillyboy414

I’m not saying you guys have in the past. I’m just saying he’s been accused of it before, and it looks like other match fixing I’ve seen in the past


RhombusObstacle

How so? This isn't a gotcha, I'm legitimately asking -- what specific things put this into "match fixing" territory for you, compared to garden-variety bad calls?


Phillyboy414

I totally get it. It was a combination of things. 1. An unusual amount of bad calls for a mls ref, and it was much more in favor in nyc. 2. It was reminiscent of past match fixing, in that he gave calls in favor of nycfc even more during important times in the match. And the common calls all went in favor of them. 3. This referee has been accused of match fixing before. 4. I’m not saying this about the fans, but the leadership and owners of nycfc are exactly reputable. All love


grnrngr

Except soccer is a game actively reviewed for match fixing, even at the lowest of levels. In addition to statistical review - to separate claims of pattern from randomness - book-making gets flagged even unusual betting takes place. In addition, if VAR is good for anything, it's that independently advises for review on the game's more critical and obvious opportunities for fixing. A lot more people nowadays would have to be on the take or neglect their duties to facilitate an obvious fix. It's a lot more plausible to suggest gross incompetence or subconscious bias than a grand conspiracy of match fixing. But I know this sub loves to work up a lather when reason is introduced, so...


forrestthewoods

Excuse me MLS we just hit summer solstice so it’s not actually After Dark at this hour. Can’t be pulling these types of shenanigans during daylight hours!!


Weneedthosegumdrops

Well it’s what you get for putting the most horrid defenses up against eachother


backOFturkey

There were defenses out there?


enverhoxhastan

I think they were on the bench or something. IDK, I was busy watching my team fuck up a winnable game.


LeoninEtPerotin

But on the other hand, two good offenses!


HeckYesItsJeff

"Let's check the match thread. There are pretty much never more than a hundred comments, maybe two hundred. Might be fun." - me, like 30 seconds ago


ech01_

One of those games that you hate when its your team but love as a neutral. I am exhausted.


RR515

Pathetic ref show aside, one of the most absurd matches I've ever seen. 10/10 would watch again.


HertzRent-A-Donut

One of the best games I’ve ever watched. I wish it wasn’t my team


Weneedthosegumdrops

Truest statement I’ve heard in this entire thread tbh gg (other than comments about our defense being shit)


mhales45

What a game!


verbal572

On to the Nashville Orlando Penalty Shootout. MLS drama continues


gopac56

Thanks for the heads up!


billups

Should have been 6-2


FeroxFox

Lol what


gopac56

Ah, Geoff Cameron, the voice of reason.


verbal572

Cincy coach was about to throw some hands at the Refs


detlorsb

AR apparently told pat a good team wouldn't have blown a 3 0 lead


iWag

Noonan is pissed. Rightfully so.


JMposts

I was at the game so replays were hard to see. What were the egregious calls he is mad about?


Hayleox

> Pat Noonan said he was not pleased with the response of the assistant referee after a bit of a heated conversation with the officiating crew following the game. Said it was disrespectful. > Haris Medunjanin elaborated on this as he also approached the officials after that to ask about the offside on Brenner. According to him, one of them said a good team would have put the game away up 3-0, but “you gave it away.” https://twitter.com/LaurelPfahler/status/1542338595448659968


cbday1987

Was also at the game but if I had to guess… -The call that the ball was out when we scored seconds later -The 2 corner kicks that were called goal kicks -The handling of the obvious time wasting by NYCFC down the stretch The VAR review was the right call…we had a couple guys offside on the cross in and I believe Brenner was ahead of the ball on the initial shot. So we were offside twice.


Trailblazer444

The time wasting makes me so angry. Nothing is ever done about it. If a player goes down and the ref has to stop play, the stretcher has to go out immediately and the player should HAVE to leave the field. These pathetic mf’s fake injuries to control the tempo of the match and to diminish opposing momentum. It’s weak, it’s cowardly, and it is the worst thing about this sport.


glemay

First NYC goal off the corner kick should have been a goal kick. It was out of an NYC player. Second NYC goal the guy was a yard offside. And then the disallowed FCC goal in the first half where the ball was still in. Should have been 5-2 Cincy.


cbday1987

The goal/corner decisions were very strange. There were at least 3 that just didn’t make any sense


Purgent

You were at the game but didn’t watch the game?


LargeGermanRock

they only show the replays once in the stadium on the big screen.


Purgent

Yeah, I was also at the game. That someone allegedly attended this match and is unaware of which egregious calls someone may be mad about is a near impossibility.


Weneedthosegumdrops

Gg Cincinnati I hated every second of this


swish513

I remember the 5-2 game where you guys scored all 7 goals. That's the game I hate. I'll take a point vs you guys any day.


iWag

Time to take my blood pressure medicine. GG! Best game I've watched this year.


Cad-Banes

Damn good game. Ups and down both ways


Kilo1799

All that for a draw I love it


rehanxoxo

Noonan is going off on Refs and I don’t blame him


Orbit_CH3MISTRY

What did I miss? Obviously a lot because I was watching Crew but what specifically is he mad about?


Lex1988

Apparently after the game he tried to talk to the assistant ref about some of the close calls and the ref said something about Cincy blowing the game anyway. May not be wrong but a ref really shouldn’t be commentating on the game in that moment. Either just don’t say anything or explain what you saw and why you made the call you did.


htg2010

Got a source on this? Pretty wild if true


Hayleox

> Pat Noonan said he was not pleased with the response of the assistant referee after a bit of a heated conversation with the officiating crew following the game. Said it was disrespectful. > Haris Medunjanin elaborated on this as he also approached the officials after that to ask about the offside on Brenner. According to him, one of them said a good team would have put the game away up 3-0, but “you gave it away.” https://twitter.com/LaurelPfahler/status/1542338595448659968


LargeGermanRock

it was a very poorly called game from the line judge on the west side of the stadium, he missed a few bad corner vs goal kick decisions Also they never announced the stoppage for the second half so I guess the refs just picked a time randomly to end the game


maxthedog123

They flashed 4’ at the stadium which was … a bit low in my opinion. Then at the end NYCFC had a guy in the ground wasting time. Ref pointed at his watch like “I got this” and blew the whistle right after the restart.


gr3at3scap3

Yeah, noticed that as well. I started my watch at 90' and the stoppage time ended up being 5'40", which seemed pretty short given all of the shenanigans.


LeoninEtPerotin

The amount of iffy to bad calls on the endlines was a little staggering, both leading to and preventing goals. I would say he managed time-wasting at the end a little poorly, but not awfully so. One of those games where close and bad calls seemed to go one way a lot.


darthvenom

Lots of stupid blown calls that lead directly to multiple goals.


rehanxoxo

Screaming at the refs had to be pulled off by a player, security had to escort the refs to the looker room


the_Snuffaluffagus

Security escorts refs off the field for every MLS match...


averagejenk

Security always escorts the refs off the field at FCC stadium. Nothing out of ordinary.


Kylynator124

They wouldn’t know what it’s like in a soccer field. They don’t even have a field


PW8164

You meant the refs, right?


TexHooperHD

Boring half theory disproven. Both halves were INSANE


da_widower_sos

After the past two games, I would like my team to go back to blowing out teams. It's good for my heart that way


specialvillain

Could you give it a few days tho?


_tidalwave11

Fucking terrible from NYCFC. Good grit to get it back. But we should have never been in that position. Cushing needs to figure out the defensive side and quickly.


GratefulDawg73

Well, that was entertaining. Congrats on your first point against us, FCC. Both teams can take something from it. We came back from three down. FCC came back to get the point.


cheeseburgerandrice

Game threads are the parents sitting on the youth match sidelines who don't understand the laws of the game at all, but they're angry


cheeseburgerandrice

Well and apparently Pat Noonan


LeoninEtPerotin

If you think Pat Noonan was angry about the last offside call, you clearly didn't watch the whole game.


cheeseburgerandrice

Yeah he was blasting the refs for his defense's poor performance, obvs


LeoninEtPerotin

I'm sure that didn't help. I dunno if I've seen so many blown calls on balls into touch though.


Squirrels_Gone_Wild

What an ending


Hailfire9

That was fun. Right side (of camera) linesman was on crack. Turned into a full CONCACAF affair by the end with everything but cynical fouls and punches


maxthedog123

My seats are right above that corner. Crazy calls indeed.


Hailfire9

It was nearly getting to the point that I was just assuming Johnson could roll the ball over the touch line uncontested and still get a goal kick awarded.


gr3at3scap3

I'm glad to see that neutral observers noticed the shitty reffing and it's not just me being a homer.


thus_spake_7ucky

No one can say FCC lack heart.


bluejaywhey

gg FCC what an absolute shithouse of a game


da_widower_sos

I'm done with MLS for tonight, this ish gonna kill me. GG Cincy


gbpackers25

GG Cincy Let's never do this again


llame_llama

Gg to NYC fans and players. We can all agree the refs were shit, but both teams kept it pretty respectful. Questionable calls aren't the players' faults, and NYC didn't lose heart after being down. I think it could have been an amazing match if it weren't so tainted for me. My heart can't handle it haha.


sleestripes

i watched that game against philly over the weekend. Is it always this bananas with you guys?


gbpackers25

Not always but craziness has a nasty habit of following us


llame_llama

NYC has 3 MVPs tonight, and they're all wearing orange.


rehanxoxo

Fuck outta hear, you guys had some many chances and on top of that y’all blew 3-0 lead


Hailfire9

You got a LOT of goal kicks you shouldn't have, I'll say that.


rehanxoxo

Blame the refs that ain’t got shit to do wit us. Literally refs suck in MLS we got screwed against Philly on Sunday but that’s just MLS I guess 🤷🏿‍♂️


RealisticOpposite16

Y’all blew an impressive comeback to Brenner of all players lmao


rehanxoxo

Brenner put in work tonight so I don’t know what you’re talkin bout, he’s actually solid and it appears he got out of his slump.


llame_llama

LolI think he's got talent, just waiting on team chemistry which is coming slowly but surely. Two good offenses against two shit defenses haha.


rehanxoxo

Yeah we both need help on d lol


RealisticOpposite16

Yea I get that he had a great game tonight but before today no one would be saying that hahaha


rehanxoxo

Regardless Seems like Cincy is for real, & y’all got LAFC tonight can’t wait to see that either y’all get slaughtered or it’s a draw lol


RealisticOpposite16

If we play Jose Martinez we’re getting slaughtered, if we don’t we’re hopefully getting a draw lol


thus_spake_7ucky

WOW. GG


Pace2pace

Peak MLS


rehanxoxo

GG FC Cincinnati


swish513

GG NYCFC. Tough game.


kornychris2016

What a game. I'll take it.


rehanxoxo

Respect


kornychris2016

Same to you my friend


rehanxoxo

Y’all keep up the good work, I wanna see y’all in the playoffs


kornychris2016

And hopefully it will be just as entertaining


rehanxoxo

Hopefully


CMDRBaker

Please no. I'll die. But gg


chrimewave

h9oly shit man


yrgtpjt

holy shit nyc is so lucky


rehanxoxo

HAAK did a great job tonight


szazzy

What a game for the neutrals. Cincy going for it


Chubbs42

So close!!


fig-figgins

This game took too many years off my life to end in a draw.


TheHelpWouldBeNice

Very suspect officiating :/ I'll take a game like this against such a good team though. No wooden spoon for the knifey lions this year


0zymandeus

3 goal impact isnt enough. The refs continue to make obvious mis-calls in NYCFCs favor to deny us corners


rehanxoxo

Wtf


aquaknox

These commentators seem really confused about what the offside rule entails, lol. A headed shot is the beginning of a new play, Brenner was offside when the shot happened. Simple offside call.


LeoninEtPerotin

Our play by play guy is...often suspect when it comes to knowing the laws.


PMMeYourFinances

Or player names. Of most anything honestly.


LeoninEtPerotin

But Tommy G. has spirit, dammit.


Kaltho

FCC's main commentator is literally the worst of any sport I've ever seen


arsene14

I'll never forget that, "and it's penalty kick!" for a foul that happened around midfield.


GreatBigHomie

I love that people other than myself remember this atrocious call


llame_llama

In one of our earliest games he was talking about Mitch Hildebrandt being a great keeper last year (he hasn't played since we were a USL team), and that the random Open Cup game was "the high point in every one of these players' careers". I could legitimately offer more insight, and I consistently have horrible takes in everything haha.


utahunter

right how's that even controversial?


szazzy

I’m watching on YES in NY and these guys called it correctly


electricbookend

Even MLS isn’t cheap enough to use Teams


Dr-Pope

Do these announcers know how offsides work?


Careless_Bat2543

no.


michaelc51202

Cincinnati fans act like that wasn’t offsides lol.


maxthedog123

I was at the game and called it immediately. Everyone was going bonkers and had to be the wet towel and was unfortunately correct.


skeezy_z

It was, it was fun for a half second tho.


jaspermrthanos

regardless of the offsides, the goalkeeping on that not-goal was absolutely atrocious.


YangsLegion

Can’t believe the refs personally scored 3 straight goals for NYCFC. Shocking stuff.


aquaknox

I was shocked when the ref picked up the ball and threw it into the back of the FCC net for the second.


OsuLost31to0

As a crew fan, I cannot explain to you how much I am enjoying this comments section rn 😂


mcshark13

Who knew the man in neon orange could pull it off!


utahunter

that's controversial? do they have eyes?


antebrazocaliente

Refs around NYCFC games need an investigation this shit is nauseating


da_widower_sos

There's always a game or two where you feel like the refs job you. Every fan of the league will agree with this. Also that's saying something on PRO


gbpackers25

I mean we've also had games where the refs made awful calls against us Unfortunately a rite of passage with PRO


Deadiam84

He was offsides. Pretty obvious.


madmaley

I think FCC fans are upset about no review on the end line that got called out and then NYCFC getting a corner kick on what should have goal kick. FCC robbed of a goal and then NYCFC given two questionable goals/plays


antebrazocaliente

this. it hasn't just been one play. it's been a series of heavy handed and incredibly harsh calls against us since the starting whistle.


madmaley

Yeah. One iffy call is whatever but the refs made some pretty heavy handed calls that helped NYCFC


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szazzy

I didn’t see earlier calls/non-calls but Brenner was clearly off when the header was taken.


llame_llama

Yeah I can't contest that. The inconsistent VAR enforcement is what angers me though. How can you have 4-5 questionable calls that resulted in goals and only review the one that occurred in stoppage. Part of me thinks it was spite after Brenner walked by with his jersey off and gave the ref a thumbs up to his face immediately before he decided to go to VAR for the first time all game haha.


bec_SPK

Blatantly off lol. Like learn the fucking rules before making dumb ass comments.


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bqbobay

Please excuse this ass. He does NOT represent the usual Cincinnati fan.


cheeseburgerandrice

You're just making yourself look silly.


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cheeseburgerandrice

Good one!


Dr-Pope

Bro imagine calling someone willing to go to yankee stadium for a fucking soccer game a plastic.


bec_SPK

Counterpoint you could build us a stadium with all the wood your team has earned. Log by log.


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bec_SPK

At least we have a star, you literally never will.


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Ckdoerrn

Idk man. It felt pretty damn good.


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Ckdoerrn

Yes. It does lol.


bec_SPK

Imagine thinking a team is bought in a salary capped league - the mental gymnastics are amazing.


ech01_

Why the hell do they look at this one but not theirs? Such bull shit.


aquaknox

pretty obvious offside, basically on the endline when the shot is taken. props to the ref for not taking an age to make the call.


Kilo1799

Ahhhhh this is the best game ever Edit: still tho


OsuLost31to0

This is like crack to crew fans


0zymandeus

Refs with a 3 goal impact in NYCFCs favor


yrgtpjt

ugh such a shame, they deserve the goal


Some_Man_Person

Only 4 minute? That’s some concacaf shit


jaspermrthanos

and there we go, nice obvious offsides


Doctor_YOOOU

Well I can see the offside on the replay but ya know, bring on the fifth another way


ailroe3

Has to be offsides. Easy call


Gavin1026

Why did they even need to have him look? Wasn’t even close


rehanxoxo

We’d be lucky to escape with a point lol


xI-Red-Ix

One more goal and I think we win


skeezy_z

Same here


Weneedthosegumdrops

I don’t know what to fucking feel anymore


kyfry87

Bullshit


COYQuakes

Lol


TheHelpWouldBeNice

They'll take a look at this but not the Brenner back heal 😞 Par for the course for this game though. Looks like a clear offsides though


madmaley

Yup. Absolute bullshit


silk35

So close.


Chubbs42

Never mind. Lmao.


JulianBoldExtended

BRUH