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AKA_RMc

Wouldn't exactly *hurt*, tho.


AFAN74

I was about to say that


estilianopoulos

Bruh tho


gbpackers25

I definitely agree that the league is continuously growing and will trend on that same path even without Messi However, him coming to the league would most likely greatly accelerate that. More eyes on the league would mean more money to spend and just a better overall product.


battles

eyes on specific players doesn't automatically mean eyes on the league. I'm fully aware of Messi, and his play in France, but I could not tell you who is going to win the league, or even who are all the top teams of that league


checkonechecktwo

That’s true, but when he comes to your home town’s stadium, tons of people will go to their first MLS match ever, and hopefully find other stuff they enjoy and stick around.


chaandra

Messi is one of two or three players that just about every person in America can name. Him coming to MLS would be absolutely massive for the league and would bring a ton of causal attention to MLS.


JasonN1917

It'd be much bigger than Beckham was


chaandra

I was thinking that, but the MLS is also much bigger now than it was when Beckham came. It might be a bigger headline and bigger attention, but I think it will have a lesser impact than when Beckham came over


JasonN1917

Disagree because tv audiences both domestically and globally. People all around the world want to watch Messi. Same wasn't necessarily true about Beckham.


EnglishHooligan

Disney would have a lot of games on ABC as well and his success will probably allow others to join as well.


lordcorbran

I'm not sure about that. Messi is certainly a better player, but Beckham's fame transcended soccer.


JasonN1917

Messi is considerably more popular globally, especially in the non-English speaking world.


lordcorbran

Globally maybe, but MLS's main concern is getting more attention domestically and I don't know that Messi coming would move the needle here more than Beckham did.


JasonN1917

Google Hispanic population in America and problem solved.


JasonN1917

Messi is considerably more popular globally, especially in the non-English speaking world.


Gr8banterm80

I mean it’s France so PSG is usually the winner. To your point, I know American soccer fans who followed Ibra at LAG but couldn’t tell you anything else about the team or the league


ear614

I agree but for me as an individual I remember the days when David Beckham joined the LA Galaxy bringing attention to the league and it’s existence. Ultimately it wouldn’t hurt, except for making us look like an aging league. Although I would argue that the pros outweigh the cons due to how the system allows for training our the younger players and creates networks for those individuals. How many football players do you know that would pass up on the chance to play with Messi for an hour. Now imagine him being on your team and getting to train with him!


battles

I'm not saying don't do it, just that I think 'attention for Messi' isn't necessarily 'attention for the league.' I'm sure you are right about the desire of other players to play with or against him.


MtRainierWolfcastle

Messi plays for PSG. PSG is going to win the league. If Messi wasn’t there PSG would still win the league. The top teams are PSG…and that’s it. But I agree with your point, more people are probably watching PSG with him there but I doubt it means more people watching Lyon v Toulouse.


warriors94602

Lille won the league last year.


Zheguez

And unfortunately, like Monaco before them, important players were sold in addition to losing their coach to Nice at the end of last season and have now fallen apart since then. Ligue 1 has a tendency of one season wonders.


JasonN1917

The Beckham experiment suggests it's a net positive for the league on the whole and Messi is much bigger than Beckham. As for your points about not knowing about Ligue 1 that's one you.


bsho7

We already did this with the David Beckham experiment. It worked. We are talking about Messi today because of what happened with DB during his time in Los Angeles.


RodJohnsonSays

Personal .02 - I think CR7 would be more electric for MLS.


guiturtle-wood

I don't think CR7 is stepping foot into the USA anytime soon


Cad-Banes

If you're talking about his legal issues, they dismissed it late last year. The only thing keeping him away now would be his choice


Dwight6661

Case was dismissed by one judge earlier but it's not entirely over. https://www.espn.in/football/cristiano-ronaldo/story/4617519/public-might-get-look-at-cristiano-ronaldo-police-reportus-judge-says I think cops can still take him in for questioning. That's why he isn't going to set foot in US anytime soon.


jamills21

What if we got both?


EnglishHooligan

El Trafico with Messi and Ronaldo could be fucking massive.


P_Alcantara

But reversed teams. LA Galaxy get Messi and LAFC get Ronaldo.


estilianopoulos

I think Miami might snatch one of them


P_Alcantara

You think it’d create its own rivalry? California and Florida. El Coastico


Squat_____6

No we’d just call it Messi Vs Ronaldo in MLS. No need for the gimmicky names.


eazygiezy

Need? No. Will sports media do it anyway? Absolutely


atatme77

I like gimmicky names tbh


LApoopydog

Miami can take Neymar. Why not every MLS team get one really insane superstar. NYCFC gets Benzema, Orlando gets Marcelo, Portland gets De Bruyne, Seattle gets Harry Kane, Austin gets Mahrez, and Rapids gets ummm.. Josh Sargent.


Cold_Fog

And we can give them a special designation because the players will get paid so much. We just need to figure out what to name them.


atatme77

Well, we're designating a lot of resources to this let's make sure to get it right


SobuKev

And let's look to the porn industry for a catchy acronymn.


rk4dand

snuck marcelo in there like we wouldn’t notice


SobuKev

This is interesting. New MLS rule requiring every team to have [at least?] one player with a $20+ million salary. First one gets 95% cap relief, 2nd: 80%, and so on... Hmmm... (prolly bankrupts the league in under 5 years, lol)


BarryIsInTheLightNow

The Galaxy could get both. That would be more appealing to fans around the world. To see it’s two biggest stars on the same team


passranch

El Trafico doesn't need any help. Would rather see the NYC derby feature two superstars like this.


EnglishHooligan

Yeah, it does. This isn't 2018 when you had Zlatan, a younger Vela, and at least 5 goals per game. The last game was the lowest rated yet for OTA between these two and the hype will probably continue to decrease since the derby is basically headlined by a 34-year old Mexican international and a 33-year old international, no other big name players, and the stadium atmosphere which the gimmick will eventually not be interesting.


Milestailsprowe

What would change they already sell out?


EnglishHooligan

Yeah, but the reach outside those stadiums would improve dramatically. TV ratings would also go up as a result both locally and nationally. People don't tune in because they don't have a reason to care... well, even if you're in the Eastern Conference, you'd probably watch Messi vs. Ronaldo in LA if you can. This would also lead to more sponsors who pay more... it could get us to the point where ticket sales is just a part of the revenue, not a vital part.


LettucePlate

He would. But he literally can’t. Messi is the next best option. I just talked to someone at a restaurant today who didnt know who Messi was but knew who CR7 was. He’s just more famous in America for some reason


RodJohnsonSays

Why, because of the Vegas allegations? Weren't those dropped?


death_by_retro

He admitted to it on tape


gopac56

Cristian Roldan #7 is already here though


Ars3nic

Cristiano Roldano


ConfidentVisit4629

🤣🤣🤣


tomado23

MLS is rightfully transitioning past the era of throwing big bucks at international stars in the final years of their careers. But you make an exception for the Messi-types, whose name-recognition goes far beyond just fans of the sport.


eddygeeme

Exactly! We don't need Messi but we want Messi in the league


EnglishHooligan

> MLS is rightfully transitioning past the era of throwing big bucks at international stars in the final years of their careers. IMO, it depends. If they're 35+ and obviously past it, yeah, we're fine. However, if it's a player like Messi or even Rooney, who scored 10 goals the prior season with Everton, and he can bring in fans to the stadium while playing above average in MLS, it's worth it. Just make sure to actually have a plan to improve the whole team, not just rely on him, otherwise it'll be "he came, he saw, he left" like Schweinsteiger. Guys like Villa, Zlatan, Vela etc. we still have room for them in MLS. Insigne will hopefully be the same for Toronto. If Eden Hazard, Griezmann, Ronaldo, Di María, Zapata, Reus, or Benteke wanted to come, I wouldn't say no, as long as they can perform still and gave a shit. Also would like to see them rotate around and not just go to LA.


ethan_bruhhh

i agree with that, but there’s a zero chance they get spread around too much. you’re just not convincing a multi millionaire to move away from their home continent and away from their families and friends to play for a Cincinnati or a SKC, or a Charlotte. they ain’t coming here bc they love America or Canada that much, they’re coming here to grow their personal brand to maximize the last of their playing years and hopefully extend it past their retirement, and that’s a hard sell in anywhere that’s not NYC, LA, or Toronto


passranch

Or Miami.


EnglishHooligan

Oh yeah, totally. I can see maybe Benteke being okay with DC for example and Zapata would be cool in Miami. Others, you can definitely put in LA (2 teams), NY (1 potential spender), Chicago (new billionaire owner), Toronto, and potentially Atlanta/Seattle if they are willing to shell out that amount of money (although, definitely not Messi or Ronaldo). I'm just not a fan of hearing Axel Witsel being linked with an LA club... as per usual.


kiddvideo11

Why would you say no to a 18 goal scorer in Ronaldo?


EnglishHooligan

The only reason is if you think they won't give their all or even act like they cared at all when playing. Let's be honest, they are signed to promote the team and if the attraction is not acting like they give a shit, you don't want them. You can get a cheap 18 goal scorer elsewhere like how Atlanta and New York did.


lordcorbran

It's not even the age, it's about attitude. We've seen older stars come here and light up MLS because they took it seriously, and we've seen others who were clearly just looking for one last payday and half-assing it who were big disappointments. Messi might still be great here even half-assing it, though.


FreddykruegerInCinci

Unfortunately the la galaxy will still continue the trend because of ownership


_tidalwave11

Idk. I think Vanney has a strong enough resume and would be willing to shut down nonsenical signings


FreddykruegerInCinci

Douglas costa who is not performing well right now


_tidalwave11

I dont think Costa was nonsenical. I actually think his profile as a player fit what the Galaxy needed. Im talking Gerrard type of signings where they didnt make sense, or Zlatan type of guys who arent the best for the locker room.


seasportsfan

One thing is for sure: any MLS team he would play for would be playing in sold-out stadiums in all 34 games of the season.


DarCam7

The question is if his body can keep up for a long 34-game season. He is in his mid-30s and the travel alone could suck out the life out of anyone not used to it.


TowerOwl1939

Higher ticket prices too. The impact on the MLS would be huge!


EnglishHooligan

Fans, starting this season we will be moving into a tier list of teams that will determine ticket prices. In tier 1, [insert Messi's team]. Tier 2, everyone else.


misterjones4

Cries for Charlotte fc... Our ticket prices are already fucking dumb


BarryIsInTheLightNow

He would probably miss non-key games on turf, similar to what Zlatan did.


TMOP_Halloween

Portland should trade Van Rankin for him


Matt_McT

Seems like a silly headline. Of course we don't need Messi. Though that would be fun, just look at all the incredible new stadiums and sold-out atmospheres around the league. Soccer is already making an impact.


Accident7

This exactly. While Messi hypothetically coming would be a huge plus all around, I dont think that it is necessary for him to come to MLS to help grow the sport like as if its grass roots still. We are seeing all kinds of incredible stadiums and now accomplishments with clubs where fans all around the league turn up for their team (for the most part anyway). ​ Sidenote: I am curious to see what Messi does next in his career, but I dont quite expect him to ever come MLS side for some reason.


gogorath

He should have stayed at Barca, and the only club it ever made sense for him to leave for would be Newell's. At least for aesthetic reasons. He's getting paid by PSG, but this year was a debacle.


Ars3nic

>He should have stayed at Barca He literally could not. Spain's finance laws prevented him from taking more than a 50% pay cut (which he offered), but even paying him 50% less was still too much under the penalties and regulations that La Liga was imposing on Barca for being over a billion dollars in debt. As he showed in the press conference, he clearly wanted to stay.


gogorath

That's a bummer.


kiddvideo11

He had no choice but to leave.


_tidalwave11

PSG is a disastareously run club. They will eventually crash and burn but luckily for them, noone else in Ligue 1 can afford the players they can.


BarryIsInTheLightNow

Our TV deal says we need bigger names.


t_l_m

Imagine Messi going to somewhere mediocre like the Quakes and making absolutely no impact because there’s so much shit in the metaphorical toilet that he can’t shine


lambquentin

Yeah, he wouldn’t be able to put the team on his back like Wondo did. Messi would be flabbergasted as to how he did it for so long.


OO17MVP

ya cuz we already got Ronaldo


Bismarck395

Messi to Charlotte confirmed


misterjones4

Tepper has so much dumb money. He also is an egotistical prick, so he would totally do it. But he's also an egotistical prick who would blow the negotiation.


EnglishHooligan

Have the team train in Miami, private jet to Charlotte for games.


Elvem

We’ve already got Ronaldo so let’s do it


misterjones4

Y'all don't want the smoke, sit down.


Elvem

Simmer down there little brother lmao


misterjones4

Never


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Americans love superstars and he sure is hell is one.


Forsaken-Society3524

While I agree the league doesn't need him I do believe him coming would give the ratings a huge boost to the ratings and give leverage to the league in future during tv rights negotiations.


_tidalwave11

The problem with Messi and now to an extent Ronaldo is that theyd break a lot of teams' based on their limitations. Neither have the legs to truly defend from the front (and its not something Messi is known for to begin with). Theyd be optimal for a new team. But the teams that can afford those numbers (LAFC, LAG, NYCFC, SEA, Miami, DC) are not teams who Messi would fit with. As an NYCFC fan, I dont want Messi and Ronaldo because theyd immediately negate our ability to press.


LAFCMemes

Speaking of Messi. What team has his discovery rights?


aquaknox

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a short list of players you're not allowed to have a discovery claim on and whose acquisition would heavily involve the league office


kiddvideo11

Union.


NeighborhoodFoxLA

I’d like Messi to play in Miami. The interest in that market would help that franchise even more and more eyes on the league.


Conscious-Carob-811

he should come to la😔


Artistic-Top7074

Nah, Austin where it at


Conscious-Carob-811

better than the Columbus crew and rsl fans that probably downvoted my comment💀


NittanyOrange

Houston


AJPtheGreat

He doesn’t need to come to grow the sport but I’d travel within the states to see him play


Nothing_Able

I agree with this my son loves him and we are from America. He actually asked to change his number to 30 because of him. He'd flip if he went to MLS though.


Artistic-Top7074

He should come to Austin 🙌


MilkyFresh22

Think psg will take a Dominguez swap deal?


bdl18

Maybe we can throw in TAM? 😅


Artistic-Top7074

Lmao


kuyakew

It’d be nice tho


death_by_retro

MLS should not be signing anymore from europe over 30


kiddvideo11

Back in the 80s the English First Division tried to do the same thing. They were known as a retirement league.


No_Marzipan_3546

Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo should already be in the MLS, they have nothing left to prove in Europe and people are already tired of them, and the only destination they would have a strong impact on would be in America. Messi going to Argentina, Cristiano Ronaldo playing in Portugal or Brazil, or both playing in the Oil Money and China would be a waste of time too, you might be a hater, but America is magical, even more so for a sport not as adored as soccer. but the window is closing, they're getting really old


angelg47_

Bad take g


P_Alcantara

Maybe you should start adding some marzipan. Your takes are lacking.


ConfidentVisit4629

Why would he wanna come here in the first place he’s too good for us(my opinion)


jasonmonroe

No MLS team could afford his purse. His salary is more than some entire team budget!


jasonmonroe

Pele played in MLS as well. Not much was accomplished.


death_by_retro

Can’t tell if this is some elaborate trolling or…


BarryIsInTheLightNow

Pele Van Anholt played for the Galaxy for a few games before a major knee injury knocked him out for the season.


jasonmonroe

How am I trolling? Pele played American soccer in the 70s.


passranch

Pele's career ended 20 years before MLS existed


jasonmonroe

Ok, let me clarify. He did not play for MLS since they incorporated in 1994-1995. He did play for an American soccer team (New York Cosmos) when he was past his prime. That’s what I’m saying.


death_by_retro

That was in the NASL which is a different league...


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misterjones4

Messi with a broken foot is better than 95% of MLS talent.


thekingofthejungle

/r/MLS moment


FalafelBall

MLS can't afford Messi anyway.


BarryIsInTheLightNow

MLS will afford Messi if they feel they need him for a sweeter TV deal.


EnglishHooligan

Technically, if Manchester City can afford him, so can New York City FC.


Milestailsprowe

Tons of teams could like NYCFC, Atlanta or LA Galaxy but Real Salt Lake and Colorado rapids could not


classicdude78

Garbage league


pito24

Bozo


ThePensioner

Getting mad at Reddit because your owner bailed?


death_by_retro

Out of the loop what’s the context here


SobuKev

Classicdude is a Sacramento Kings fan (based on comment history) and was likely looking forward to the new MLS franchise (Sacramento Republic) before the supposed owner stopped making his franchise fee payments to secure the club's spot in the league).


Sempuukyaku

Garbage post.


P_Alcantara

Garbage dude


Lowfuji

Wonder who would be the Eto'o and Zlatan player on his team that he alienates and gets rid of? Would Portland side with Messi over Chara? Would Seattle side with Messi over Ruidiaz?


BarryIsInTheLightNow

He probably won’t choose turf.


xkamilx

NYCFC will sign him but he'll first have to play for Man City. Oh wait, where did I see that before? Anyways, Messi playing at Yankee Stadium, people would lose their collective mind.