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IVOXVXI

Congratulations to Jasson Dominguez, who has just signed a contract extension with my team


[deleted]

My first thought is how does a dude who has never played in the majors have better stats then Griffey


deucedeuce187

He won't when griffeys final card is released. Lol How is that difficult for ppl to understand? How does Grienke have a better card than Pedro? How does every ASG card have a better card than Willy Mays and Mickey Mantle?


RememberTheMaine1996

The difference between your examples is Griffey is a 99. Mantle isn't a 99 and neither is Willie Mays. When they get their 99s it'll be elite. They hyped up Griffey Jr. Earlier than they ever have and it was so disappointing


ManofSteel_14

By the time he gets an end game card both madden and 2k will be out AND MW2 will be out. This game will be dead or close to it by then.


LargeGermanRock

ah cool - griffey's final card in November - can't wait man


WumboWings

Yeah that final Griffey card will be better, but when are we getting it? It’s already close to the point where a lot of people either get burned out or are just plain bored. He’s not gonna get much mileage if he comes out late yet again.


Twymanator32

My friends and I have primarily moved on already. Normally we grind the ASG program every year and we are burnt out by then


[deleted]

Yea but I mean it’s a joke for a 99


Kritical02

They are just really showing that overall doesn't mean shit.


datsadboi17

i was hoping this WOULD be the final, goated griffey card. so, still a letdown. but if they had given us that mvp griffey from a few years ago, i’d think differently


peterchere

Slurp slurp


Deebubya

Brian Reynolds has signed a contract extension for my team


[deleted]

Stanton is for sure staying in left now.


SolarVortex13

Bro I was literally planning on having Dominguez play out of position at 2nd base to have griffey in the outfield but I guess I don’t need to now.


jpndrds

How do you turn double plays by playing Dominguez at 2B?


SolarVortex13

I haven’t actually tried it yet. I was going to because Dominguez is so good for me I can’t not have him in my lineup, and I was assuming the Griffey Jr card was gonna be usable. But I don’t have to worry about it anymore.


PopeNimrod

I think SDS has said that if the player doesn't have a middle infield position on their card, they don't get the double play animations, so he won't be quick enough to turn it.


GramsOfLoud

Tell that to Rafael Devers. His monthly played 2nd base for me last season and was one of the big reasons I made it to World Series. Keeping him Brett and Frank in the infield was huge. Edit: turned 2 double plays with him actually covering the bag


PopeNimrod

That's awesome, I've never tried it. I might try devers tonight and then see if random outfielders with high fielding can do it.


GramsOfLoud

It’s real hit or miss because I’ve tried other players out of position at second but he’s the only one who could turn a DP


LurkingZebra

This dude is giving away the secret sauce.


jpndrds

That’s not going to work my guy


Xman0417

I have no idea how this card is a 99. It feels like a 97-98. The only thing that substantially changes from the 96 to the 99 was the clutch was raised by 40, Power v Left was increased, and the fielding was increased by a little bit. Everything else is either offset by something else or only 1 or 2 points higher.


largesonjr

They upped the base running attributes this year due to it being impossible to steal.


Coffees4closers

Doubke tap the LT and you can't steal ata decent rate. Manually timing the pitcher doesn't work this year. Plus since noone steals people don't slide step or try pick offs


largesonjr

Thanks, I do know the ways but the point remains it's stupidly hard for the best guys to take a bag


NoClothes6419

What does double tapping LT do?


Coffees4closers

Tbh, im not sure exactly what it's called, cause I've always used manual steal, but basically the CPU will decide their jump and it's been so much better than manual. You still need high speed and steal guys but id say im close to 70% vs like 10% with manual


avelak

Yeah I have extremely high success with double tap as long as their steal and speed stats are good


dagbar

Oh shit I thought I was just terrible at getting steals, I didn’t know there was another method of sending runners


jaymack950

What’s the difference between double and single tap though?


_token_black

You don’t like the random times where a guy gets no jump at all and any catcher with 70+ arm can get you easily? /s Btw, all but 2-3 catchers have an arm above 70, meaning your fucked unless you run on a ball in the dirt or get lucky with a jump.


afrueh3

They keep using clutch to juice overalls so that might be enough to get it there with the smaller other bumps


deucedeuce187

That's a small part of it. It's bc defense is valued so much in CF.


afrueh3

He's a CF on both cards, I don't know if the 6 point difference is that big here


Tdizzle00

It's partly because CF defense/Reaction is weighted highly so a +6 boost to each of those will probably juice the overall +1 or so. I think if he had 92 fielding/reaction he'd be a 98 if nothing else changed.


Beeko888

It’s because the attributes don’t matter. They can literally slap any overall they want on a card.


jack121013

I mean the showzone calculates true overalls


DaMaGe_d0nE

Showzone true overall isn't fully accurate to how SDS calculates their overalls


Beeko888

Has zero to do with how SDS makes cards


jack121013

Huh? I never said it did. You can check the showzone to see the true overall.... Thats all I said. But the overall is not random lol. Its from all the attributes


Beeko888

The overall is obviously not fully random lol. SDS can literally change a 98 overall to a 99 without changing any attributes regardless if showzone says it’s a 103 overall. They don’t make decisions SDS does. Overall means nothing


N8dogg107

To add proof to this point if you throw the cards stats into ShowZone’s true ovr calculator it spits out 98.37, which doesn’t even round up lol


Beeko888

Lmao, thank you.


Jet_Jones_11

This seems like a headliner card maybe even worse


MysteriousBoob

+19 in the fielding ratings and +16 in power ratings (combined). Add in increases to things that people don't look at like steal, BR agg, and clutch while also shifting the contact more towards RHP. This card isn't a good 99 by any stretch, but I don't get how people are confused by it being a 99.


Mark7116

So what you are saying is you have no idea how this card is a 99, but it feels like a 98…??? Well shuck my corn! I would demand a refund.


Pastoseco

Exactly! Like try the card first my guys


DiscountLlama

He also got an inch shorter lol


170poundgorilla

It feels like a 95 to me... Truly disappointed in this card


GoldenGloveMan

Who in their right mind at SDS would think anyone would have interest in this card after hyping it up for 2 weeks?


insanity2brilliance

To be fair, I’m willing to bet 90% of the player base isn’t informed nor understand card comparisons. As a result, all they see is a new program and event with a 99 card for Jr. and Sr. So, worst case scenario, if they get x% of that base to stick around while a certain less stellar experience Football game drops, SDS still wins. The piñata is pretty, but there’s no candy. Only worthless putty.


Pastoseco

Relatedly, many of us did not pull the 99 Sr. 🤡


GrevenQWhite

Ah the old Soviet Russian piñata.


logmac03

I don’t know how they could think this would be a cool program to give on a Friday, they’re holding endgame Griffey for ransom


J3D1

They're holding it to be assholes, I can't even buy the dam thing


bakermob29

If they are going to start giving players 2 different 99s that’s stupid. If this is our only 99 Griffey that is stupid. It’s all stupid.


lilsamuraijoe

SDS about to breakout the 100s


StinkTurkey

Yeah, it's fucking annoying. They're definitely going to make it a chase pack or some bullshit. This is of course bullshit because for my testing so far on the drop rate of Chase packs, the chance of just getting the pack is <0.5% (small sample size of only 3 chase packs). This doesn't factor in the chance of pulling the card from the chase pack which just further delves into Fifa-esque territory. Unfortunately, with pack types having increased odds compared to last year, and SDS mysteriously removing the pack odds from regular packs (which has reflected on me opening 260 packs with no diamonds), it just means we're going to get more bullshit down the road. Sony/SDS agreed to disclose all pack odds to the FTC, but did not sign anything; this is why they can remove the odds. The only reason why they would remove the odds is to avoid immediate backlash and/or to avoid lawsuits regarding false advertising.


_token_black

There will be a 99 as an event reward in November lmao


gocubsgo22

SDS definitely screwed up here. Announce two weeks ago that it's a 98 Griffey Jr. with the same attributes, and hardly anybody would bat an eye; we'd understand the card wasn't endgame. But hype a 99 on your content schedule for nearly two weeks, and people are going to assume it to be Griffey's best. I'll admit I was skeptical from the get-go, but did start to lean towards "endgame Griffey Jr." when they confirmed it would be a 99. But seriously, they could've hyped him two weeks out as a 98 and the majority of the community would not have taken issue, I believe.


bryansmixtape

They could’ve dropped this card as a headliner and the most complaints they’d get would be that we’re not getting endgame griffey yet, but to hype it up as much as they did and have it be this is so disappointing


gocubsgo22

That's the issue with making him a 99. I have no issue hyping up a 98; we all as a community understand that's not endgame, but it would still be exciting to have a high diamond Griffey Jr. since all we have so far is the 88. But making him a 99 is subject to assumption that he'll be the best. And unfortunately, since OVR is capped at 99, there's a HUGE range of cards that earn said rating, and this is definitely the low end of that scale.


bryansmixtape

Who knows, maybe they’re currently playing 5D chess with us, and it’ll be a finest Griffey Jr. and this is just a super elaborate troll lol


RememberTheMaine1996

Making him a 99, giving him his own program like David Ortiz for the first time in forever and that Ortiz is a beast, building hype for 2 weeks, releasing him on a Friday to make even more hype. They did everything wrong


Tdizzle00

I agree. It's more we always have to wait for the true end game Griffey that ineviatbly comes out after the game is dead and they hyped us into thinking we'd have it much earlier in the year. If it was a 98 or 97 released a couple weeks ago, we'd have loved it. We got bamboozled and that's what the hate/frustration comes from.


funkholebuttbutter

96 Griffey is even a inch taller.... amazing


JBagels34

I mean the power creep has been better compared to years past, but this game is nothing like ‘21 and ‘20


jack121013

Feels like they overcorrected tbh


[deleted]

100%, all they needed to do was not have pitchers like deGrom be obtainable through a few exchanges and/or moments.


PatrickMahomesGOAT

Insane how you can manage to hurt your game by releasing a free 99 Griffey. SDS is tripping balls thinking we would care about this trash ass card


BerriBerrinson

I mean, we clearly care, they're not wrong. It's just that we care how bad this is lol


FishSammich69

![gif](giphy|xUA7aM09ByyR1w5YWc)


Tdizzle00

Lol you nailed it. Had they done nothing but released a new conquest map, we'd have all been happier than this griffey program. How do you release something new that makes people less happy with you than doing nothing is amazing.


EMOHLED

I just compared the new Griffey to MA Matt Carpenter and Jared Walsh. You could make argument the 99 overall is the worse of those three


Attey21

Very lame 99. Won't be making my team. Just release his MVP card already. Why do we always have to wait 6 or 7 months to get a legit Griffey Jr. Card.


gachzonyea

Keep you playing


HotOnTheMike

You're absolutely right, but due to making the game a grind-fest, very few people are going to play this game into January. Not many people are going to play the same game that long, especially a repetitive sports game that demands daily playing to complete sets.


gachzonyea

Then you’ll miss the Griffey or some other top cards just the nature of the beast


HotOnTheMike

So will the other 98% of players. And the people that do have him will have no body to play with him against🤷🏿‍♂️


gachzonyea

People will still play and then most these people leave or not will pay for it all again next year


RocketMan6c

Obviously difference due to the 1" LOSS in hight 3 years older. Never new avg people get shorter in their mid 20's.


SilasSays033121

They decide to make Griffeys attributes realistic while they have 3-4 future stars aka never played in majors or barely so that are as good or better than him. And that came out a couple months ago. Very fukin odd decisions this year


Bean2713

The 99 is only slightly better lmao


trapHerm

Game was better last year , they drawing it out too much this year, and ranked seasons is trash now


sourdougBorough

I like the drawn out slow approach tbh because it keeps teams balanced and multiple approaches to how you play. Not excusing this card tho because this is worse than all future stars and probably topps now players for august


Jtadair98

Yea I like it being slow too, but you can’t hype up that ur dropping a 99 overall card for a fan favorite player and it be complete garbage. So I get why people are angry.


sourdougBorough

Yeah no doubt. People were legit parading in the streets 10 days ago that free Griffey was coming. Truly something for players to look forward to.... and then he has 80 contact


Jtadair98

thn they announce Griffery Sr. retro finest 10 minutes later LMAO like there is no way


Fmack20

Less squad variety this year. Don’t like the coMbined super programs either. TA player missions was my favorite grind. Now there are only a handful you can do each program.


[deleted]

I really don’t wanna be playing this game in January


WheatonsGonnaScore

Then dont


[deleted]

I wanna be able to use the best cards. I don’t want to be playing this game the whole calendar year. I want a break at some point. I’m sure I’m not alone in thinking that.


caesar____augustus

It's how SDS has us by our (proverbial or real) balls. We want to use the best cards and the only way to do that is to continuously grind year round. Based on how these cards/programs are being released taking a break is probably going to prevent you from getting the best cards by the end of the cycle, especially if you're NMS.


[deleted]

So do you want every card released in the first 3 months? This logic is so scuffed


[deleted]

When did I say that?


[deleted]

"I want to be able to use all the best cards but I dont want to play the games whole cycle" the games literally been out for 4 months, and fyi you can take a break whenever dude its not a job.


ThreatLvl1200AM

Well you can use the best cards right now, just like you can use the best cards when the game first comes out. It's all relative to what's already out there. What difference does using a batter that has 85/85/85/85 ratings in the past, 100/100/100/100 splits now or one that has 125/125/125/125 in the future? If they're the best card in the game at the time, they're the best card. It's not like they're going to stop releasing even better pitchers too. Just enjoy the game, and if you don't want to play, then don't play. If you're forcing yourself to play a video game, then why do it at all?


JoelSimmonsMVP

ranked was ass last year


trapHerm

You rather just play innings than get wins ?


moderateshadow

Yes


JoelSimmonsMVP

id rather not reward 700+ players for dropping rank every season to 400 and doing everything they can to get first inning quits, while also quitting every time the opponent scored first there was literally no incentive to finish games for anyone that wasnt going for WS (99% of the players) it was easy as fuck to get WS rewards last year, yeah, but they’re supposed to be difficult to get. no one finished games <7-800 rating last year


trapHerm

Ok and now what’s the incentive of winning ? There is none , you can just mindlessly play , you play to win , not to get threw innings


JoelSimmonsMVP

the incentive of winning is to raise your rank bruh. its the only competitive mode in the game not everything has to be about finishing programs anf getting stubs the problem was that last year created an incentive to lose


ChangingSuccession

With 250 innings instead of 400, absolutely.


big-migz24

It's literally just collection fodder what the hell


Stay_Obvious

They turned durability up to boost the overall


largesonjr

The famously never injured Ken Griffey Jr.


ShoddyPippen

As a Reds fan the thing I remember most about his career here was his durability. A real iron man.


HotOnTheMike

I dunno.. I think the overall is completely arbitrary and they can just assign any number to any card they want.


RaveWave52

How does this card make any endgame OF’s unless it’s for a team build? What an embarrassment


[deleted]

Dude this card isn’t making OFs now let alone end game lol


Capt_Rex_Kramer

HAHAHAHAHA why the fuck is his speed so slow


L00KINTOIT

Griffey pretty much always gets low 80s speed, even on his good 99s they only bump it to 85-86


rhin0c3r0s

Wow this card is so weak for a 99, big L


Contemptt

Oh this year has been horrible imo


andrewredbeard

Super stoked that HRD Julio is gonna stay in my lineup I guess.


DeltaDens

The contact stats are fucking laughable.


TheBiggestJig

they said “you can pay millions of stubs if you want a useable griffey”, i wouldn’t start this card in an event lol


dgibbb

Correct me if I’m wrong but this card is nothing to go crazy over.


dfin25

You are not wrong. This card isn't worthy to scrape dog crap off of Matt carpenter's cleats.


yallsomenerds

Was gonna grind all weekend for him but just got the ps5 and just gonna play some exclusives all weekend now instead…this’ll prob be the beginning of the end of my MLB season lol


GooGooJones

I had a ball smacking first pitches over the wall grinding for Junior. On my third beet and I'm almost there. Probably take a month to get my rhythm back after this rookie slugfe.


spf1500

He grew an inch somehow


ElectricalBread4862

aaaaaand Julio remains my center fielder


0hH3NRY

I’m hoping this is a free card for everyone to obtain this week, then next week they drop his 500 HR Milestone 99 with proper batting attributes. It was the collection last year, but maybe a program boss this year? They have to have something better to combat Madden. This ain’t it, there has to be another one soon that’s not free?


dmoge216

Every year they hold out the GOOD Griffey card later and later. Maybe we’ll get it before football season is over.


jerry_gore

![gif](giphy|FOd2uhzpOd6asnsowV)


griffey9988

Both cards suck. God those people working over there are idiots there is no one in the world who wants this card


calebminor91

I’m convinced they are purposely trolling us


sourdougBorough

They have to be right


[deleted]

I hate Madden but this makes me wanna buy it just to spite them. Woulda been better off releasing nothing.


1869er

Everyone needs to spend at least one year playing MUT so they can see for themselves how bad it can actually be EA would make you collect like 30 cards for this, only like 2 of which you could earn through grinding, and they would push a $100 bundle on you in order to get the rest faster EDIT: Oh yeah and they're exchanges, not collections, so you lose those 30 cards that you spent all those coins on in order to get the one


PapaChanGod

Oh yeah, 100% agree It's like the MLB Show players are all living it up on the Western side of cold war Berlin & have no idea what's it's like for all the FIFA players who live on the Eastern side of the border 😀 SDS obviously do screw things up - today is a prime example of that - but EA know exactly what they're doing which is worse


SIaaP

That 96 is arguably better lmfao


ghett0tech

Typical L from SDS.


zombiecreeper27

this new griffey can steal at least!


Sergeant_Arms

Bwahaha. SDS screws us over yet again. Can’t wait to play with the actual 99 Griffey in January.


youg_j_r

98 Belli is better? Smh


BerriBerrinson

I'd take most of the 95 future stars over this tbh


HeySadBoy1

I was about to saw bye to PCA. Stick around a little longer, Pete


moderateshadow

Same with 97 buxton


BerriBerrinson

I'd take most of the 95 future stars over this tbh


WileyCoyote_21

This HAS to be a troll. I keep thinking that this is the card that you have to use in the program to unlock the actual 99. They’re just fucking with everybody and slapped a 99 on this card


bakermob29

What the fuck? This is the 99 Griffey? What’s the point of this?


chxarty

Well, i was really struggling with deciding who i was gonna replace in my outfield for Griffey, and now i don’t have to worry about it anymore


SaltoDaKid

He not even better than Babe or Mullins so he’ll go my fool around lineup


ShoddyPippen

They just HAD to know this wouldn’t go over well. I was all excited to play this game this weekend for the first time in a little while and now I do not care.


StinkTurkey

On ShowZone his true overall is calculated as 98.37 This was a huge fucking letdown for somebody like Griffey; 100 power against righties? Really?


Farmdog326

They do a horrible job rating random pkayeers to high and then disrespect Jr like this!!! For example someone has like 3 Hr in one week they get a bettwr tops now card then this Griffey... stupid


hennyj0

Definitely keeping matt carpenter


I-eat-foot

Congrats Austin Hendrick, you will stay on my team for a bit longer


kjsmitty77

Now compare this year’s 99 (so far?) with last years milestone 99. Last year’s milestone: Con R: 119 Con L: 108 POW R: 125 (not sure if base is lower, I have card p4) POW L: 125 (not sure if base is lower, I have card p4) Fld: 99 (not sure if base is lower, I have card p4) Arm: 99 (not sure if base is lower, I have card p4) ACC: 92 Reac: 99 (not sure if base is lower, I have card p4) Spd: 85 Steal: 82 BR AGG: 65 Stats mentioned that aren’t maxed at p4 I reduced by 4 points in the list. The maxed stats I’ve noted may have been lower on the base card. There’s no comparison between the two, really. The milestone was end game and this year’s is decidedly not. His 96, which this year’s is more similar to, also came out as a headliner much earlier in the game cycle.


jlando40

What a joke


SumJenkins

I’m trying to think of a weaker 99 in the game so far


TheDenseCumTwat

SDS ought to explain some of their thinking of late


rhokie99

SDS and butchering the Griffey drop, name a better duo. They got it right in 20 when he came out in the 6th inning. Ever since, yikes


sherwoodblack

Dang


BobWiley69420

they’re having a mid off


suburbantroubador

I have played this game everyday since the beginning of April, and I am JUST NOW losing my enthusiasm, which is pretty amazing because with ANY OTHER game I would've moved on by now. They announce the 99 Griffey and I thought, well played SDS. Welp, I'll pick it up from time to time, but I don't have the willpower to grind anymore. And this ain't it. It was fun, though.


Siluncd

All i need in my outfield is Cutch, Clemente and Mullins. Greene may replace Mullins. So im good


SnooAvocados4201

L


Thesweetlenny

At the end of the day all y’all (including myself) will grind out the program to get the card. If Griff plays above his attributes, great. If not, move on. Even the 99 from last year wasn’t end game for me and I’m guessing he wasn’t for plenty of others. Long story short, we’ll get over it and play someone else in the spot if Griffey ain’t it.


leocamish1

Disappointing


S-Man_368

Do they assign the cards the overall or is there a program that takes the stats and gives out the overall because I dont see how it can be 3 overall higher then last year unless stealing and baserunning aggressiveness have so much say in it


Cbjacket84

What makes it worse is there was a legend collection for milestone Griffey later in 21, no way that’s corrected here. The 22 card is a joke


FlobiusHole

How do they make a guy like Mike Napoli have superior contact?


These-Tourist-9626

I’m not mad at his stats, I’m mad that they slapped a 99 overall on him


Unknown-games56

Congratulations 95 Austin martin you have been promoted from the bench back to right field and 92 Nelson cruz will be added back to the bench


almondahmannalex

Robert Hassell III has signed another two week extension I’m afraid


HyBr1D69

Griffey shrunk as he got older? 6'3" to 6'2"


CapStarfish757

I hit better with the 95 schwarber than Clemente or thomas so does the overall number really matter that much


NoahSilver01

Dude lost an inch off his height from age 23 - 26 lol and gained 20 pounds lol


Hathalot

So much crying over a free card. Should surprise me, but it doesn’t!


[deleted]

Knew this comment was coming. You shouldn’t hype the fans by saying it’s a 99 Griffey then drop this dogshit.


Hathalot

Yeah. What a greedy company SDS is for giving you a *checks notes* free griffey card!


[deleted]

Again, if they were transparent and didn’t hype it up to be his best card, no one would be thus upset. And it’s not free, you have to spend a decent amount of time to get it. Free would be, in a pack for 0 stubs. When did I mention SDS being greedy?


Doct0rGonZo

Just wondering / in your opinion what makes this card trash


[deleted]

It’s objectively bad for a 99. There’s probably 10 better OFs in the game rn.


Doct0rGonZo

Fair enough but what stats on this card should be increased/decreased for it to be a proper 99? This is my first year of the show so I dunno why this card is getting shit on


RadixSorter

Go check out posts of the 99 Griffey from MLB 19/20/21 and you'll see what people were expecting when they said "99 Griffey"


dburks122

The card sucks, don't get me wrong, but they didn't hype it up to be his best card. They just said 99 Griffey. Anyone that assumed a 2nd half card would be the only Griffey we got for the rest of the year is clueless. This isn't going to be the only KGJ card. If they just put both contact ratings at 100 we wouldn't see this outrage,


[deleted]

It wasn’t announced that it was gonna be a 2nd half card til this morning. I agree, I was immediately concerned when they announced it that.


dburks122

I'm disappointed in the card, I am, but before the 2H announcement this morning everyone was thinking it would be a retro finest, which would be the best card in MLB the show history. Anyone that genuinely thought that they would give out a retro finest Griffey for free when Cutch is like 3 weeks old and worth millions of stubs is delusional. My expectations weren't really that high to begin with. It is a bad content drop, but the outrage wouldn't be as high if people just used their brains a bit


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moderateshadow

You mean like the free left handed frank thomas they gave us? Yeah no idea.


Clem1719

In what world is this card playable


obvioussponge06

This card is in no way playable above AS


amillert15

Griffey is one of the greatest players of all-time and one of the biggest fan favorites. This is also his first card since launch. SDS hyped this release up BIG-TIME and then drops a card that isn't even Top 10 at his position. GTFOH about free card. There's a bunch of free cards that are better than this.


MooseNoodles

Haven’t seen this many people upset over a video game in a long time. This thread is full of salt 😂


[deleted]

How dare us want to have a usable Griffey when it was hyped up as much


MooseNoodles

🥺🎻 Someone is in this thread talking about “I don’t wanna play this game in January” lol. You all seem so childish. Its a lil embarrassing


[deleted]

NERF


EMOHLED

Hey with the massive Crtl+c/v this game has been at least they're different card arts/years


eat_my_shorts_9

Yeah he isn’t even a top 15 of option.


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[deleted]

It was an early 20s set headliner. I think that would have been in like June if I’m not mistaken.