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zanazanzar

Mark Owen is giving me cringe


skinglow93

She’s got the ick big time


zanazanzar

I don’t blame her. I want him to get off me and he’s in Germany 🤣


Ambry

Him trying to kiss her and making the weird face after on the carriage ride was cringe overload... he claims to have lived this crazy rocker lifestyle but doesn't seem to know how to interact with women at all?


Toffeerain

Yes! That’s who he reminds me of.


Owlwood87

Kasia be thirsty


onelostmartian

Its nuts to me


Coconut681

Is it just because he doesn't fancy her?


skinglow93

I think this is it - I don’t know why people who are so inflexible with their ‘type’ go on this show 😩


PmMeLowCarbRecipes

…to promote their podcast


malmikea

I honestly think she’s doubling down because 1) he hasn’t made it clear if he’s into her sexually or otherwise 2) she’s been knocking back a few cocktails


onelostmartian

I think he'd happily have sex with her in the outside world without a whole marriage involved, but here he doesn't want to be lead by lust. Maybe he'd find it harder to turn down if he was more attracted to her and she was a bit less forward


Necessary-Conflict-6

I think his doing this to promote his podcast . It's obvious to me. Look at what he said at the wedding reception......


Coconut681

The surprise yesterday shouldn't have been "I have alopecia" it should have been "I'm a vegan"


markafuss

Out of all of my vegan friends, the only boundaries they have is don’t cook it in their houses. No one cares if we are all ordering take away and someone orders chicken balls or if we out and someone orders a steak. I really hope that this is the producers pushing it for drama and this isn’t who she really is, cause that’s kinda embarrassing… for her.


hamiltonricard4ever

Very true. Also, respect for ordering the chicken balls


thapar101

I will try chicken balls tonight


[deleted]

I’m vegan, and literally everyone is just different and has different boundaries with it. I wouldn’t want to date a massive meat lover who doesn’t even attempt to understand veganism and scoffs at it. I don’t mind dating meat eaters, but only if they’re respectful, open minded and do eat vegan options a lot. My current boyfriend eats vegan food when he’s with me and makes an effort to go to vegan restaurants, because he knows that it means a lot to me. And I haven’t even told him to do any of that btw. Basically, for some vegans if it’s a strong moral choice then they do care about people eating meat when with them because it’s an emotional thing. And that is fine, everyone’s different and has different boundaries with it.


swagatha___christie

This 100%.


myinvinciblefriend

It's 100% fine and understandable. But if that's the case with her then maybe she should have been really clear with her expectations from the beginning. She seems to tell her she doesn't mind her eating what she usually would but then says the opposite when on her own.


malmikea

I don’t think she’s being pushy at all - surely if it was a deadlbreaker she would have said that to the experts. I actually think that it’s Zoe’s anxiety which is causing the issue


Longjumping-Tip9549

Nah because Jenna said “she’s just ordering what she would normally order, it’s so annoying”. I find that disrespectful, Zoe should be able to order what she wants to eat!


skinglow93

Yeah I agree with this, I don’t want meat juices encrusted on my pots or to cook food in the same oven and it all taste of chicken but with restaurants / takeaway, people should just order what they like!


redseaaquamarine

My vegan sister sadly is not like your friends. She makes a huge fuss if someone eats meat near her.


moondiggerman

There are some vegans who do it literally for attention and to try and boost their self worth by being 'Holier than thou" which is why they make such a song and dance about it


Anxious_Diamond_4761

PJ is utterly adorable. Would not have expected him to be so shy and unsure and she's being so stand off ish and weird... like did she not think she'd need to commit to a marriage orrrr??


FredWestLife

Her "wouldn't expect her lad friends to give her a massage" comment - Nope, he's your husband not a "lad friend".


redseaaquamarine

Kasia should have crossed the island and swapped places with Jess. Then we would have had two couples better suited to each other.


jamjar188

Just catching up and this was exactly my thought!


BadSpanglish2

Can't see past his job maybe - Likely got the ik from him having been touched by loads of women.


Pretend-Factor-843

I get what she said about his work pattern - he must work every Friday & Saturday night. Thats tough, especialy if hes far away.


nopewont92

I don't think it's the main reason she's got the ick, but it ain't helping.


jberra502

She just made that up.


Anxious_Diamond_4761

Jess is noooootttttt over her ex and that issue at all. Not ready for this. Also PJ is absolutely singing her praises and I imagine there's a lot we don't see on camera but I don't get what's so special that he's seeing?


onelostmartian

Do you think they still have the same dining table?


Anxious_Diamond_4761

HAHAHA that killed me


skinglow93

I felt so mean but I was having the exact same thought during that convo 😂


ancientdancer

bring back chanita and jordan pls, all these other couples are painful to watch 😭


HappyMike91

The honeymoon destinations are all fantastic. I'd probably like to go to Jamaica or somewhere like that. I wouldn't be shocked if Kwame was an aspiring crypto bro. He's giving off major crypto bro vibes.


BadSpanglish2

The Maldives! Channel 4 clearly unaffected by the economic crisis


Owlwood87

Having been to Iceland, I would say that was probably the most expensive honeymoon.


HappyMike91

I wonder how much of a budget Married At First Sight UK got to send people off on their honeymoons. I feel like the travel budget for two people costs a lot. Particularly somewhere like the Maldives.


FredWestLife

Not just the Maldives, but **two** bikes per hut.


Coconut681

Richie needs to give her some space


brizzle1234

Absolutely smothering her atm


markafuss

Starting to wonder if Kwami is using her as a vehicle to flirt with the camera, and, in turn, the audience. He really out here telling us that he doesn’t want to sleep with her, but then two seconds letter needs to declare that he shaves everywhere… who’s he saying that for, cause it really isn’t Kasia 🤷🏻‍♂️


BadSpanglish2

I think he's doing it as a power play. He thinks he'll get her to practically beg for it and in turn, gain some upper hand.


skinglow93

Based on his dating podcast background I bet it’s some ‘pick-up artist technique’ bullshit


Educational_Long3178

I had this exact thought!


FredWestLife

All he's going to end up with is his hand at this rate.


Competitive_Cuddling

Nah I get the impression he's not into her. She's as tall as him and curvy so he looks quite small compared to her. His description of his "type" being Rihanna and Beyonce and which is why Kasia "isn't what he's into" made 0 sense to me. Neither of the ladies could be described as "stick-thin" or "short". I get massive red pill vibes from him, especially with not getting his wife a drink, then having the audacity to cop an attitude after she got up to get herself a drink. Top it up with his gross comment that it's "unbecoming" for a woman to drink beer, too. Something about a middle-aged dude hosting a relationship podcast with a failed marriage under his belt is absolutely hilarious to me. He talks in vague inspirational one-liners in circles without saying a whole much. His time with the experts was so cringe, it was like he was trying to one of the experts. He probably has a chick waiting for him at home while he's playing love guru on TV. Can totally see him trying to be a grifty motivational speaker pushing pump and dump Crypto schemes after this.


man_in_the_suit

Richie wants a new mum…


Lex-So

Poor Richie, hes quite wide-eyed. I've got a feeling she's not gonna be honest with him about her reservations...🤔


hamiltonricard4ever

I'm so bored of this vegan issue


brizzle1234

PJay dm me if things don't work out with Jess lol zxxx


c0wboytuxedo

I feel like if PJ said he was anything other than a stripper, Jess would’ve loved him


ReserveMany3399

Yes I agree. The first moment she saw him she was attracted and she lost that due to his job.


BadSpanglish2

He could've not brought it up and she would've at least gotten close to him.


Ambry

I do like that he was upfront, but its a shame that its almost all she can see now - he seems like a great guy.


librose22

Richie is really not good at reading the body language


onelostmartian

His reasons for not having been in a relationship dont wash with me, he made out like he was living this fast life with no time for love, just sex but I think when it comes to women he's actually massively inexperienced on every front


librose22

Interesting. A theory in our house is he’s actually a virgin.


FredWestLife

He was on Take me Out.


Ambry

Yeah it seemed like he lived the 'rock n' roll lifestyle' but he doesn't seem to have a clue?


KDCaniell

Kasia's a horndog and I'm so here for it!


skinglow93

This idea from Kwame that intimacy ruins relationships is giving Madonna / whore complex


onelostmartian

I dont think he's wrong tbh


skinglow93

You can experience physical attraction to someone without it impacting a deeper connection - obviously you don’t need to jump into bed right away but he’s even shutting down a bit of playful flirting


onelostmartian

He was getting into the dancing just fine, I found her mango seed talk a bit cringe to be fair. Some guys are put off by that kind of thing


[deleted]

Considering he runs a mens dating podcast his entire script will be what he sells. Not sleeping with someone right away or if they want you badly is advice commonly given.


icelolliesbaby

Same, for a lot of people sex = commitment, once you have sex theres no going back and for some people (me) that will impair their judgement


hamiltonricard4ever

Being eaten by a shark on MAFS would be quite the issue


zanazanzar

Yay dinner party and Duka. I love Duka 😍


Lex-So

Me too! Such a sweetheart.


The_Blonde1

I'd love to know what Whitney is alluding to with all her cries of FAKE FAKE FAKE and the eye-rolling every time Duka speaks. I can't work out if she's been cast as this series' villain so is getting a bad edit or if he's actually a psychopath when the camera's aren't rolling. Either way, she very definitely doesn't like him.


BadSpanglish2

Gossiping about your wife to relative strangers - classy.


Actuallycares97

They’ve really splashed out with the honeymoon destinations this year.


skinglow93

I bet last year’s group are gutted 🥲


Actuallycares97

I still remember Morag’s face when she realised she wasn’t going on a beach honeymoon.


skinglow93

It was not what she ordered


FredWestLife

Is that Mauritius or Amsterdam? Not sure which with the bikes parked outside the huts.


BadSpanglish2

"loving me or the idea of me" - Bingo! Full house.


StudentNoob

You can just bet this vegan thing will crop up at the next dinner party when Zoe's eating a steak and Jenna's not.


man_in_the_suit

You mean when Zoe turns to her and says ‘I’m eating a steak how does that make you feel lol?’


StudentNoob

I'm sorry but that made me chuckle inappropriately. I think the lol at the end did it for me.


zanazanzar

I wish they’d show us them on the plane. That’s where the real drama is.


BadSpanglish2

I'd hope the producers get them on separate flights so they dont spaf all the conversation away in the air.


hamiltonricard4ever

One of them goes in the hold baggage


nopewont92

Right? Like who do you think commandeered the center arm rest? I'm thinking Whitney/Thomas/Jess/Kwame for sure


skinglow93

Kwame is giving me male podcaster motivational speaker crypto MLM. There. I said it!


hamiltonricard4ever

Ready, Willing and Able sounds like an accountancy firm


hamiltonricard4ever

Is the wine vegan?


miamariajoh

Too few vegans actually know that lots of wines are filtered through egg whites. Not so much anymore but certainly old vintages.


BobbyBinky

Jess's voice is like fingernails on a chalk board


ButtercupUp100

I can't get past her over filled lips


YellowIsCoool

And the eyelashes


zanazanzar

Just realised vegans can’t have crossaints and I’m sad.


skinglow93

There are vegan croissants and pain au chocolat!


FredWestLife

Has Kwame manged to sell a time share yet?


FredWestLife

WOW! WHAT A GREAT VIEW FROM THAT RESTAURANT! LET'S PUT THEIR CHAIRS FACING THE KITCHEN.


Coconut681

Pj in the friendzone?


BobbyBinky

She said his offer of a massage was a bit cringe! WHAT?


FredWestLife

Ooof!


FredWestLife

One the hand some couples are in bikinis and briefs. On the other hand some are in hi-vis.


One-one-eight

Haha looked liked they'd had a long day working on the raliways


FredWestLife

At least I haven't heard Whitney in a week.


StudentNoob

It's not as if she had much of value to say anyway.


hamiltonricard4ever

Thanks for being my wife ... Yep. Lol


BadSpanglish2

"For you my dear, I will hang up my banana-hammock".


KDCaniell

I'll swap my birthday suit for a business suit for your love


hamiltonricard4ever

I'll swap a G string for the real thing


brizzle1234

They're all just drinking their way through their honeymoons (and I would do exactly the same)


hamiltonricard4ever

Nice motorway roadworker outfits there


zanazanzar

This is making me want to go back to Iceland.


Owlwood87

Ditto. I think it’s looked the most appealing honeymoon.


FredWestLife

It was the Hi Vis, wasn't it?


KDCaniell

Watching from New Zealand this is making me sad about all the travel I missed during my "OE". I moved over to the UK at the beginning of 2020, held out hope during lockdowns until December when the only international flight I took was to come home. Now Iceland is so bloody far again!


zanazanzar

Ah man! If you ever make it back over here I highly recommend.


KDCaniell

I'll get there, even if it's on an old people's tour bus rather than a Contiki this time!


nopewont92

Agreed. It doesn't take much to get me thinking about it, but this really did.


ancientdancer

God Jenna and Zoe are being too dramatic about this. I'm vegan and I've never been involved in this much drama about food ffs


BadSpanglish2

These shows always show every vegan a proselytizer; start off saying they're fine and bam, "why are they still eating meat near me"


onelostmartian

Its funny how she said that everyone she dates becomes a vegan within a month, that to me was a big red flag lol


[deleted]

How is that a red flag?


onelostmartian

Its screams coercion


[deleted]

What?? She coerced her exes to be vegan 😭😭 maybe they just wanted to join in on something their partner’s passionate about??


onelostmartian

If you've dated someone for a month I don't expect such drastic life changes in that time frame but maybe I'm the crazy one


[deleted]

I mean they could have been vegetarian before or on the fence about veganism for a while, it’s a bit extreme to assume she “coerced” them into being vegan lmao


AngelsAnonymous

Found the vegan lol


[deleted]

Found the meat eater lol


skinglow93

It’s very extra from both of them: you’re at a restaurant, just order what you like… if you’re finding this difficult, wait until you have to cook at home!


ancientdancer

Agreed. They're both being weird about this. Zoe's whole thing about medium x medium rare? Like that would make a difference lol But also, Jenna needs to chill, too. She's being too pushy.


LangdonAlger999

PJ is such a softie he probably got asked to be a stripper by some randomer and he didn't actually want to do it but just didn't have the heart to say no..


invalidsquircle

Anyone catch the man doing the back flip while Jenna and Zoe were in the hot spring?


Upside_Down-Bot

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Necessary-Conflict-6

Literally read this thread so I didn't repeat exactly what you wrote ! It was impressive ngl.


brizzle1234

Omg lol "I'd get to relax more if you're around'. Uh no, hard pass.


hamiltonricard4ever

The wording was so bad


BadSpanglish2

Mel is like "these two could work or be terrible...and that's why we matched them"


skinglow93

The ‘flip a coin’ method


BadSpanglish2

50% of the time, it works every time.


Notanothrshitthrow

It's hilarious. "They're a *perfect* match....apart from this very significant issue that would nuke most relationships."


brizzle1234

A 50 year old man never having been in love screams red flag to me


Ambry

And living with his parents! It's not a winning combo.


hamiltonricard4ever

Wtf was that expression after the kiss


ancientdancer

Kwame is one massive red flag. Like every single thing he says is🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩


hamiltonricard4ever

Look after you Really?


KDCaniell

I think there's a place for that thinking at times in a relationship. I'm a strong, independent person but sometimes I'm baby and want looked after, it's nice to have a safe person you can trust to look after you when you can't do it all for yourself. As long as she brings the same energy for looking after Pjay in her own way I don't think she's asking for too much.


Notanothrshitthrow

I think it's clear though that her idea of "being looked after" means "being a manly manly man who will pay for my lifestyle and will be fine with me not working."


hamiltonricard4ever

Agree with the two way aspect. Will be interesting to see if it plays out that way!


NutellaWeather

Ritchie’s so caught up with the idea of having a wife, he likes the idea of marriage, not necessarily who it is. She’s obviously struggling and he’s not seeing that


Lex-So

I get that it's gonna be really, really difficult for Lara to do this (as it's gonna be a huge wake up call for Richie and might shatter his ideals a bit) but, now that she's identified the issue, she needs to rip the plaster off and tell him how she feels. Maybe the experts can be called in (remember when they made house calls in earlier seasons??😂) to help remind him that Lara is her own autonomous being and he needs to respect that. Richie needs a serious talking to and a huge pull into reality, like, asap. I feel sorry for Lara to be stuck with someone who doesn't match her emotional needs and is basically looking for a second mother.


skinglow93

Awww PJ seems really nice - I feel bad for him!


zanazanzar

I love her so much 🤣🤣🤣🤣


FredWestLife

FIRST DINNER PARTY ALERT!


hamiltonricard4ever

That breakfast screams all inclusive breakfast buffet, I love it


FredWestLife

Eat as much as you like but from an 8 inch plate. See that? 12 inches. Keep it in my room.


Beertown1

Got your big plate, Alan?


hamiltonricard4ever

That gold watch jesus christ


onelostmartian

I was literally coming to post about this, he should've bought a house instead 😅


fluffy-ears

She want it


hamiltonricard4ever

Kwames good at talking the talk Bang on


BadSpanglish2

shaved E-V-E-R-Y-W-H-E-R-E!


hamiltonricard4ever

Must have missed his face


BadSpanglish2

That's where he stuck it all.


brizzle1234

Who's doubting who here? Feels like they're going round in circles


StudentNoob

Is the veganism seriously this much of an issue? Are these the new lows MAFS have sunk to? Seriously?


Notanothrshitthrow

I mean, it *can* be an issue for a long term relationship. If you live together will you just cook separate meals all the time? Will the vegan partner be ok with meat preparation in their house? Will they be ok with knowing their kitchen utensils have been in contact with meat? It's not the biggest issue in the world, but I do know vegans and non-vegans who wouldn't date the other side.


markafuss

This has to be a producer thing, I’ve never met a vegan so militant and snotty about it.


man_in_the_suit

Is she militant and snotty? Zoe brings it up at every opportunity unprovoked. ‘What would you do if I ordered reindeer lol? omg stop trying to change me’


StudentNoob

Ah yes the fake Duka insults are back. Joy. Surprised Whitney hasn't come up with "Faka" as a jibe yet.


hamiltonricard4ever

That's right come on in, wheel me my breakfast Glad they were clothed


hamiltonricard4ever

If you close your eyes whilst listening to these two speak, it is sordid stuff


Owlwood87

It’s kind of awkward. I’m watching this with my mother.


hamiltonricard4ever

Is this a peace offering? Oh no.


BobbyBinky

Richness like a limpet


hamiltonricard4ever

I feel Jenna is being harsh. Gotta enjoy the honeymoon food!


KDCaniell

I'm glad Zoe opened up and was vulnerable, I hope they can be more open about things like food now as it's not really a huge deal. Some couples have separate bedrooms, my partner and I eat different meals more often than not due to timing and tastes. Hopeful for them!


Lex-So

Yeah massive respect for Zoe for bringing up concerns honestly


WrongDomino

They're both such great communicators, it's refreshing


onelostmartian

Whats with this vegan meat shaming my gosh


Melodic_Slice4624

This is a link to the hotel in Iceland: https://hotelranga.is I spotted the name of the place on the menu


hamiltonricard4ever

That bath lmao


FredWestLife

That poor bed.


FredWestLife

Wait: did he not swim with the fishes?


FredWestLife

Lol - just realised I was watching on delay.


skinglow93

This convo is why I don’t date meat eaters lol - imma cook things I can eat and you can have it or get your own. The drama is wholly unnecessary!


onelostmartian

Whats with the smiles on the experts?


hamiltonricard4ever

I mean tbf you're not all over him as a film crew is following you


man_in_the_suit

Zoe is doing my head in. Keeps bringing up the vegan point and the accusing Jenna of trying to change her. She can’t get her head round somebody not wanting to kill animals and has already said she doesn’t want to know otherwise she would be vegan. She’s the definition of all those meat heads who project on vegans. ‘What would you do if I ordered the reindeer lol?’ Just order it and stfu.


[deleted]

Yeah I don’t think they’re gonna work for this reason. I couldn’t date someone like that


man_in_the_suit

Yeah - it doesn’t need to be an issue but I think it will be. The frustrating thing is Jenna is taking the flack online for it all purely because she is vegan. Don’t get me wrong, she has said a couple of things that are low hanging fruit for the anti-vegans, but Zoe just cannot stop provoking it every time they eat by asking inflammatory or stupid questions.


[deleted]

I agree completely, it generally is meat eaters that have some bias against vegans rather than the other way round. Someone even tried to argue with me that Jenna coerced her exes into being vegan??


zanazanzar

I wonder how they assigned the honeymoons.


Owlwood87

I imagine if they said they wanted hot and beaches they would send them to snowy Bavaria or Iceland for the drama.


Never_wrong41

Sounds about right 🤣


Brandondrawers

A