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Charles Vallow Autopsy & Toxicology Reports

Charles Vallow Autopsy & Toxicology Reports

sausagechihuahua

I’m so sad that Alex isn’t around to face what he did to this poor man who from what I have heard did nothing but provide for and love Lori and her family unconditionally. He seemed like such a genuine person.


TheFirstArticle

I suspect that if Alex were still alive he would have taken on the blame for everything here and it possibly would have worked to stop anyone from looking too hard. I think it might be a good thing that he died when he did so that way Lori and Chad will actually face some justice.


sausagechihuahua

I hadn’t thought of it that way. Maybe you’re right.


nursedolittle

Great insight.


atg284

That's a very good point!


perrymasonictemple

I completely agree I' am glad they alone will be facing this all when who knows but at some point


touronegro

It's good actually


Every-Classroom3429

I don't want to sound mean but he just received his death penalty without a jury. Either way he can't hurt anyone anymore..In the end justice was served.


oceanoca

Straight through the heart, Alex didn't need to shoot him again when he went down, Charles died almost instantly after the first shot. Lori needs to fry for this one too.


ObligatoryGrowlithe

He was shot twice, right? That’s what gets me. He was probably going to die after the first anyhow, but murderers always go for an extra. Morbid as it is…


deep-fried-fuck

yeah. first was to the stomach, and went into his lung. second was right to heart, and was apparently at a downward angle, indicating the shooter was standing over him. so that soulless motherfucker took another shot to make sure charles was finished off after he was already down. god it makes me so angry that alex will never have to face up to what he did


ObligatoryGrowlithe

I thought chest through back — I might need to read it again. I hate to say it, but people always say to “play dead” in situations like this, but if someone is set on killing you, more often than not they will do more than is necessary. This is awful.


lookatheflowers1

She needs to fry the most. She’s the epitome of the black widow.


MACKEREL_JACKSON

Also I had no idea his legal first name was Leland. ❤️


TheFirstArticle

Injuries to his body, hands and arms sound like he was hit with the bat then hit the ground with his knee. Perhaps then shot while on his knees, followed by a second shot when he fell back and was laying on the ground.


e_tucker

With the ME report, why wasn't Alex charged with murder?! There should be some kind of negligence charges brought against the investigators handling the case.


zimmernj

I think the whole world agrees with you 👍


lookatheflowers1

Was anyone fired?


MACKEREL_JACKSON

Or at least a checks & balance type system for determining if charges are appropriate


lookatheflowers1

I just made a big comment above about this. It’s frigging terrifying that this happened!


Careful_Positive8131

This poor man he did not deserve this he seemed like a really decent guy


touronegro

Nothing could save him.


lookatheflowers1

A lot could have saved him!


lookatheflowers1

Can someone explain to me how they rated this as self defense until they HAD to do something? I’m not anti police at all. I just can’t understand. By the police own admission, they say that none of their statements lined up. They knew right away he was shot more than once and one time after Charles was down. I can’t understand this and it makes me feel so unsafe in my community if cops are really this lazy. Can I get some more insight? Thanks gang. I’m not trying to trash anyone on purpose. I think people on Reddit here know me better than that. Well, I may trash Lori and Chad but hey! ;)


TheFirstArticle

No idea. But once an error in judgement is made there are both internal to self self interest and communal threat bias that will be operating in people. Add to these two forms of bias a cognitive bias to disregard data that does not support what you've already decided and accept only data that supports your conclusion you have lots going against accepting challenge to a conclusion already made.


lookatheflowers1

This has to be a more commonly happening than we would like to think about it seems. The more crime cases I follow it does seem there are some crazy mishaps. That’s seems like a lame word for me to use. I guess I’m not comfortable blatantly accusing yet, but I can’t wait to hear their side of the story in the trial.


TheFirstArticle

Good reason to challenge things as early as possible in a process that's for sure!


MACKEREL_JACKSON

Question: Was it always considered a homicide? Do they consider it a homicide even when they determine that the individual was killed “in self defense”? Or was Charles’ death categorized differently before Lori & Chad were arrested?


oceanoca

They had it categorized as a homicide, and were investigating it as second degree. During one of the police camera replays I saw it on their paperwork-which the shoulder cam showed.


MACKEREL_JACKSON

Good catch, I didn’t know that


LillyLillyLilly1

Yes, homicide just means his death was caused by another person, no matter how it happened. Murder means it was an unjustified killing.


MACKEREL_JACKSON

Interesting distinction. I though I had read that they are now recognizing Charles’ death as a murder but I may have mixed my cases up


YellowLemonStories

The autopsy would not say murder though.


MACKEREL_JACKSON

That makes sense.


hearsecloth

RIP Charles. You deserved way better than this. May justice reign.


perrymasonictemple

the hits just keep coming emotionally for the family...and YET the cases have really gone no where. I think of them all everyday, and how it must be so painful going about their day to day and then having to see this type of stuff on the news, in headlines, on social media etc. Sending love out to Kay Kresha Larry Colby and many more who knew and loved Charles so much :(


evergreencanoe

This brought me to tears it is so sad.


frodosdojo

I didn't see the toxicology report just something that shows the things they check for. So we should assume none of those things were present ?


LillyLillyLilly1

According to East Idaho News, yes. His tox report was negative. https://www.eastidahonews.com/2021/09/medical-examiner-releases-autopsy-report-for-charles-vallow-lori-vallow-daybells-former-husband/


frodosdojo

Thanks !


ddgumtree

It’s easy to miss, but at the top of the last page is the subheading ‘Detailed Findings’. It states that there weren’t any positive results for any of the tests they ran.


frodosdojo

Thanks !


RBAloysius

Does anyone know if LE was actively investigating this, or if it was just picked back up at some point? (i.e. when Alex died, when Chad was arrested…)


Dry_Specific3682

this may be a super dumb question but who is LE?


RBAloysius

Not a dumb question. Law Enforcement.


Webbie16

How does the second shoot come about? It says through his left stomach and it comes out his left shoulder? Was Alex holding the gun low? Or was this the second shot Assholex took after Charles was already down?


Morighan123

Y


oxremx

:(