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Lucky_Editor446

I hope we are not washed before Christmas


Empty_Transition4251

There's a reality in 1 week where City lose to Spurs, we win and we are just 2 pts behind. Just goes to show how early in the game it is. Do we look crap? Not crap but this start has been damn slow. Are we out of the race? Absolutely fucken not!


AsianMidas

I like how City losing to Spurs is just a given now haha.


Powerful-Cut-708

Not just losing once either, losing... ![gif](giphy|m9jFnJOoQ3hWJ6Muaa|downsized)


GOR098

We are the lowest placed Big 6 side. Uggghhh.


Cactiareouroverlords

I didn’t bother to see the utd game, did they actually play well or was it Arsenal assuming they could get a free win and thus didn’t try?


TheLongistGame

Arsenal missed having a proper CDM with both Partey and Elneny out


GOR098

Arsenal did a Liverpool. Wasted good chances and got caught on counters thanks to a High line.


Excellent_Stage2448

Nahh they played very well, even arsenal played good but their defense was too much offensive so utd scored 2 goals with that


tony220jdm

All this weekend's games shows is we are pretty far behind in performances to the rest of the top 6! we need to react


abradley19955

Chelsea didn’t look great tbf. West Ham were robbed


tony220jdm

Yea nothing special but now have a striker who will find the net they also need to react like us


AsianMidas

Isn’t ETH just doing Mourinho tactics now. All goals counterattack


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Exactly those tactics. Putting men behind the ball and trying to to hit them on the break. From the 70 minutes I watched Arsenal were the far superior side, however like against us they benefited from sloppy application of the high line


87x

The green and gold scarves back in the suitcases i reckon?


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If you look at Redcafe they actually have seriously started a thread about them winning the league. They never learn. Give it a few months and the green and gold scarves will be back out


doubleoeck1234

I know we're supposed to want City to lose but I would love watching Haaland score a hat trick against them


Red-Rainmaker-515

>Back to the late Wenger years where Arsenal beat the other 14 teams in the league , but finish bottom of the big 6 mini table. Called it last week, same old Arsenal lol.


KGeedora

I mean, they are stil first, right? I don't think they will win this but I don't think we are in the position to ridicule that at all. We are below this trash Man Utd.


dabears91

It’s hilarious how we were on about the scum yet they got 4 wins off the bounce… we are in shambles. Here we are in a once in a generation moment. Pain to the maximum


TheRR135

JFC the pessimism in this sub despite seeing City, Arsenal and Chelsea drop points AND getting three of our most important players back by next weekend.


Redmilo666

The point is we should of capitalised on them losing points. Us drawing at this stage is just as good as a loss. If we were 5-6 points out in front. A draw even a loss isn't so bad. But when you're 7 points off top, drawing is as bad as a loss


NilsFanck

Chelsea didnt drop points thanks to yet another horrible ref decision


NexusMinds

OK but if you watch the games we are not passing the eye test let alone doing well on the stats front.


Embarrassed_Cow_4321

They aren't playing to the level they are capable of fair enough. On the stats front though they should have beaten Fulham, Crystal Palace and Everton.


mrcanadianbeef1

I think it comes from us playing like shit for most of the season so far


Ok_Zucchini3148

Thanks, Michael.


TheRR135

There's a lot going into that which is fixable over the course of a season. These players played in 63 competitive matches over the course of the 2021-22 season and had a rather active pre-season as well. Coming off the back of such an intense season with only an FA Cup and an EFL Cup to show for it is bound to take a toll on them, both mentally and physically. It doesn't help that they've had to play a majority of their first 6 games without key midfield players and their second best (arguably best, given Virgil's form) defender. Trust in Klopp to fix the morale issues and we are slowly but surely recovering from the midfield crisis


KGeedora

Yeah. It's this. If we were playing well but being unlucky etc I'd be confident. Issue is we seem to be torn between two styles of attack (crosses into Nunez and build up through Bobby) but neither is looking particularly threatening.


Asad_OG

Buck up our ideas against Napoli. See what Arthur is about. We're getting Thiago back = wins. Come on Liverpool


dj4y_94

We didn't win but this weekend has actually made me more confident we can win the league if (and it's a big if right now) we actually get our act together. No team looks particularly invincible right now.


Mad_Piplup242

I cannot believe someone being confident is being downvoted You lot are something else at the moment


dj4y_94

Lol didn't even know I was until your comment, just assumed it was a standard comment to make. This place just wants to wallow in misery at the moment it seems.


Shower_caps

It’s understandable after this weekend, it will pass.


abradley19955

https://twitter.com/moarsenal86/status/1564022411468611586?s=21&t=Tj9KEvgmeUq-ZvfLBf376g Goodnight 👍🏾


PEEWUN

*Ah, Arsenal fans...*


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firminocoutinho

Doesnt mean shit if we dont use it for transfers and strengthen. We might even miss out on top 4, hence lower revenue, and then FSG will blame it on “financial worries about not making CL”


Jamesblair1989

Yeah we ain't got time to figure ourselves out we need everyone to start pulling there weight or pull them off. They not ready to wear the shirt again give it to someone who's hungry


mohad_saleh

Clearly impartial refree making clearly impartial desicions, no-one cares and no-one will mention this again and nothing will be done because English refeees are immune and Man utd are an invincible legacy team


AdamSkeez

6 points off top, 5 points away from city. Thiago on the mend, our attacking players are available for selection. We can turn this around lads, it's the liverpool way. YNWA


Ok_Zucchini3148

14pts behind City beginning of last January. We can definitely pull them back.


avalon550

Don't remember the last time one of our mids made a defence bamboozling incisive pass to one of our forwards.


Ok_Zucchini3148

Wait for Thiago and our Giraffe to be back


gorillathemandalor

It’s not just that, it used to be even our defensive players making forward, incisive passes to relase our forwards. Good ol heavy metal.


Grimbauld

I really want heavy metal balls crazy attacking football back


avalon550

That is so true. Van Dijk used to ping cross-field diagonal balls with pinpoint accuracy for fun.


yadontfoolme

I think this season is going to be more open than in previous years. Hopefully we can get our game going and force ourselves into the mix. It will be interesting to see who‘s players come back more knackered after the world cup.


Alexanderspants

Did you ever hear the tale of Darth Liverpool the Football Club? They could reignite other teams seasons, but not their own


con10001

Tbf it's not a tale FSG would tell you


Ha-Ur-Ra-Sa

Makes our dropped points look worse, as we could have been much closer to the top. Conversely, gives us hope that teams above us are just as likely to continue to drop points, and we can gain ground *if* we get our shit together.


firminocoutinho

“Ten Hag is so quick to make subs”. Cuz he has bought a team additional to the team he already had


Stolm19

More players left the team this season. Pogba, cavani, mata, matic, greenwood, lingard, pereira.


rydleo

Amazes me that Juan Mata was still there.


Stolm19

Me too


Ok-Peanut3752

5 players isn't a team


Ok-Peanut3752

Lol people down voting facts in desperation to make themselves feel better about a situation the club put themselves in by not investing long-term.🫣


koltzito

half a team


Ok-Peanut3752

Which is still not a team additional to a team.


asso19

I may get downvoted but United are playing better football than us lol. no hoof ball. Everything on the ground. That second goal from Rashford is what Nunez is aching for. Thats what we need from our midfield instead of constant hoofing.


iNS0MNiA_uK

They also look substantially more secure in defence. It's next to impossible to play through their midfield.


dabears91

They are and it’s hilarious that anyone could think otherwise. We look like we don’t give a shit


disterfly

We are playing shit. But if teams set up the way they do against utd, no way are they scoring these type of transition goals. Everyone bar Bournemouth played 10 men behind the ball in a low block and hit us on the counter. And we suck at unlocking that.


asso19

Theres been opportunities Nunez makes those runs from deep...The following happens... * Robbo passes back * Hendo lofts ones * Mo uses outside boot * Matip over hits The only play that ive seen make a solid pass on the ground is Elliot one two ocassions


gorillathemandalor

you forgot Trent giving the ball away


rydleo

Nunez would love playing against us.


J_Stargazer

In spite of a totally dogshit start to this season, we're only 6 pts off of the top. We have a lot of issues to sort out but I feel massively hopeful that we can only improve hereon and rise up


CasinoOasis2

Glazers out protests in the mud 👍


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Frustrating seeing United attract decent players even when they’re shit and have no CL football. Looks like it’s paying off this season with a manager who isn’t totally clueless.


WH6TSINANAME

They throw money at them.


dabears91

Andddd???


IIMonuII

Roy keane about to start crying


GobiasCafe

Arsenal have Blueshites at home Brentford away Spurs at home ...and then we roll into town. This stretch is where I expect them to fall off the wagon completely. Lets see how wrong I am about this one


SardoChirdorem

Arsenal do not look like title contenders. They have some beautiful patterns of play but their defence is still lacking and they are vulnerable to quick counters. They are definitely in the top 4 race though.


doubleoeck1234

They could do good in Europa


jays117

It's their form, arteta does not have a killer tactical identity like pep


rydleo

So…they’re us but with beautiful patterns of play…


PEEWUN

**We've got to get our shit together.**


TheNotoriousJN

The "pathetic shambles" United are a game clear of us now. Any arrogance or delusion into thinking we're fine needs to be out the fucking window NOW.


dabears91

Its pain to the Maximum. What happened to our liverpool? We were all laughing at the scum


firminocoutinho

Tbf they play like shit and find ways to win. Thats something we seem to never be able to do


Zaximus20

Guess you didn't catch the Palace match mid-week?


jays117

"they play like shit"


abradley19955

We literally did it the last time we won a match? Lmao


TheZookeeper7

The arteta out crowd will now resume their campaign


theOwl_8

Wolves looking into bringing Diego Costa into their team is crazy…free agent too


PopipoNumber1

Money can even fix shit United. Fuck FSG really.


brush85

Glazers in!!!


arisefromtheashes

when do city win the title then? october?


PEEWUN

The City that *just* dropped points, you mean?


Educational-Two-3833

Come on we all know how this ends they’ll get a 10 game win streak and it will be over


Sensitive_Beating

Ronaldo is proof that you can be elderly and a toddler simultaneously


GobiasCafe

no no that is a "winner"


Jasveen05

Better team lost here,Arteta was very poorly inspired with those subs. Literally played without a left back. They were pinning united back for fun the whole game, that nuclear tactical shift was not needed.


PricelessPhenylamine

He's got that Pep styled "Look how smart I am" mentality in him, really looked like that with the subs. I thought they would keep going and get a win today if they just kept plugging away at it with their current players and tactics.


Keyann

I've a bet with a friend that Liverpool will finish above Arsenal (we made it after a few weeks into the season when Liverpool had a poor start and Arsenal were high flying). I feel much much more confident after today.


cornertakenslowly

That's the easiest money you will earn, what a generous friend


Keyann

He's been talking so much shit the past few weeks too so I can't wait to gloat


DWillis96

Imagine Maguiee in any other team, he would have been packed off to the championship by now He's a liability in United's team, imagine if he played for someone that the refs didn't love


Ok_Zucchini3148

Like us?


abradley19955

Wolves trying to sign Diego Costa lol we’re playing them next week Their new 6ft7 striker done his ACL yesterday


malushanks95

I feel bad for Sasa, he was injured last year as well.


abradley19955

Poor guy


GeneratedJord

New player boost incoming against us. Then he'll never score for them again.


Ok_Zucchini3148

Seems everyone’s debutant is scoring except for ours who gets a red card.


abradley19955

100% record in the league against Wolves since they came back up. I’d back us to keep it that way


GeneratedJord

I agree. I didn't say we would lose.


avalon550

I can see us sneaking into the top 3 if we win our next 4 games. Big if tho.


JonathanFisk86

Our run in is actually harder than it looks. Wolves aren't terrible and Brighton are very good.


PEEWUN

We'd have to start being Liverpool again to manage that.


PricelessPhenylamine

Gigantic if unless something major changes overnight


seamushoo4

Thiago back in training Monday. So yea, something pretty gigantic coming back


PricelessPhenylamine

There is *a lot* more than just Thiago missing that is the issue right now.


Jaja6996

Thiago is back thats one big one


Mirucias

It's amazing how we finally buy a real striker, but not a midfielder to find him on the pitch


Sensitive_Beating

God I love browsing r/soccer and being reminded how the United fan base is so insufferable and banterless


MarvellousG

Ronaldo seems almost purpose built to be intensely dislikable at times


aj6787

Him and Bruno are why I hope Portugal goes out in the groups in a few months time.


MarvellousG

Quite a dislikable team to be fair, if jota didn’t play for us I would probably hate him haha


kuu-uurija

Ronaldo is a joke


Mcool18

Ronaldo LOL


disterfly

This same Arsenal team will come to Anfield and play 10 men behind the ball in a low block and frustrate us. While they play this high line at OT. Teams just know how to play with us, the only team that might try and go toe to toe is City.


napoleonboneitis

I honestly doubt they'll be such scared little shits this time like they usually are. There's no reason to fear the current Liverpool. We have big neon signs pointing where to attack us, no consistent approach to goals, and a torn sheet of paper for a midfield. If they don't attack us, they're crazy


NilsFanck

I mean ffs Everton didnt even timewaste because they thought they could win. If that doesnt wakeus up, nothing will.


seamushoo4

4d chess from klopp. Start the season poorly to invite teams to actually attack us


Jacob_YNWA

City only know one way to play, actually to their detriment at times. Especially in the UCL (eg. Real Madrid).


MarvellousG

Can’t blame em for it, we’re so easy to frustrate since the covid break or a little bit beforehand tbh


arisefromtheashes

this arsenal side are gonna collapse


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Circ_Diameter

From what you observed, how good were they last season in Portugal?


brush85

One point closer...


MarvellousG

That’s the spirit


brush85

Every little helps.


MarvellousG

I’m not even being sarcastic sadly, it’s that kinda season


abradley19955

6 points off first place. It’s a long season and things can change very quickly


EndOfDays17

It's 5. The only team that matters is City.


YesNoIDKtbh

It really isn't after this start. If we even get 2nd, which is a big if, we'll be a lot closer to 3rd than 1st.


libertydabbing

Exactly. A draw at Goodison is almost expected. Nothing is over yet


libertydabbing

Lol Ronaldo is ridiculous. Dude genuinely does not care about the result if he isn't scoring


MarvellousG

Doesn’t take no for an answer!


GirthEE75

He just shouldered that ball without a care in the world


jimmyzzz6

Counter attack or Gengenpressing or Highline ( walk the ball in) which tactics you want ?


gorillathemandalor

Some enthusiasm would be nice.


YesNoIDKtbh

Just some fucking energy would be nice.


PricelessPhenylamine

Worst start in the PL under Klopp, 2 wins from 6 games, draws against Everton, Palace and Fulham and loosing to an unimpressive United side all while having nearly an entire very good starting 11 out injured plus big players heavily out of form. yet 6 points off the top. It really is going to be one of *those* seasons this year, now imagine how random results are going to get once the CL starts us again this week and the top 6 play a game every 3/4 days until roughly the mid of November. Anything could happen this season.


izzyajose

If United can come back from getting trashed 4-0 by brentford, I still have hope for us.


lolowalsh

They reacted by making 2 big signing though. We haven't !


firminocoutinho

We brought them back.


izzyajose

We didn’t. After that trashing they knew they had to respond. They responded brilliantly. It is up to Klopp and the boys to pull through. We are still 5 pts behind city.


theirrationalmind

Fuck me Utd are pressing.. is this real???


aj6787

United committing like 30 fouls and have barely any cards.


napoleonboneitis

Same story for the past three decades now


Mcool18

Nice attempt from Vieira there


RobotPizzaMaker

Bucket of cold water for Arsenal I'm sure. They're a young team if not the youngest in the league and clearly have a lot of talent who will improve


xxamnat

Feel like City basically has a free run at the title this season, can even afford to drop points here and there. Neither Arsenal or United are consistent enough to challenge them, we don’t look good and Chelsea don’t look good as well.


Jacob_YNWA

I love the fact you didn't even mention Spurs because well.... they're Spurs


Mirucias

Yeah most likely. And WC this and that. Haaland isn't going to play in the WC either so they will be fine and most likely walk the league unless we win both matches against them


Ok_Zucchini3148

We’ll beat City then lose to Leicester


firminocoutinho

Our fucking injuries man.. we wouldve fucking twatted these shites


napoleonboneitis

In fairness, who could have predicted our injury prone players getting injured?


seamushoo4

This take is dumb. Never have this many players been out all at once week 2. It’s pretty unfortunate that they all happened at once.


aj6787

Nice Saka. Make that cheat scream out from fake injuries. Another 3 minutes will be wasted on this fake injury.


napoleonboneitis

Tierney from manchester, known for making blatantly incorrect, game deciding decisions in favour of manchester teams, once again making a clearly incorrect decision in favour of a manchester team


WH6TSINANAME

But at least there's balance and the var isn't from there too. Oh hang on


firminocoutinho

It’s literally a fact at this point, and they still let it…


jimmyzzz6

Arsenal trying to imitate our highline looolll


NilsFanck

Wdym? Their imitation was spot on this game


theOwl_8

Would be wonderful if spurs slapped or at least drew to Citeh their next game…


Mirucias

Didn't they lose points in both matches against spurs last season?


avalon550

Us beating them would've been the killer blow to their season mentally. Fuck this universe.


Chilliger

I wish we would have to luck that the opposing teams choses shit tactics against us, but they always seem to deliver their top notch game. With us not capitalizing on numerous chances.


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Hopefully Arsenal slide back into mediocrity and we can poach one of Saka/Martinelli/Odegaard off them


mohad_saleh

Odegaard would be great at CM


rosheromil

Arsenal’s title challenge lasted all of one month


DWillis96

No intention to play the ball How do you block the run of a goalscoring opportunity and not concede a foul Oh right Maguire


Sslagathor

Funny seeing Ronaldo getting frustrated as if they are losing. His stats are all he cares for at this point