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bubs713

I highly recommend everyone purchase a safety hammer for their car. It rains a ton where I live and my dad made all us kids have one in our car. It saved my sisters life. Not sure if it would have helped her in this case but yeah, definitely worth the purchase. Edit: I feel like a mom but also purchase the scissors that will cut your seatbelt. In case you are not able to access the button.


ap170494

So important. Was also reading if you don’t have one of those to take the headrest out and try to use the bottom of that.


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bubs713

Yep. Terrible. I have a larger one in my center console and a smaller one that goes on your keychain. Def recommend the keychain one because it’s super easy to access.


SugarSleuth

Um… saying “CPU computer” makes it sound like just been introduced to technology for the first time.


shsureddit9

FWIW I have experience nearly driving off a boat launch before, though I was sober. I was lucky there was a sign bc it looked exactly like a road and the water was in the shadows and you couldn't really see beyond the actual ramp. Not sure if she would have driven off the boat ramp due to where her car was found but I can attest to how confusing that could possibly be.


TinyGreenTurtles

I can attest as well. Perfectly sober. It's happened more than once where I live, people accidentally driving in. If there isn't reflection and it is very dark, it's really hard to see it as water. Inebriated people are a lot less likely to really look, and being local actually makes you more sure of yourself.


Uralldicksipromise

I see that there’s arguing about weather or not she saw the water, what if she didn’t have a chance? What if she was rushing to get home, took that wrong turn and her tires locked up? I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee that I smuffed into a tree in a similar way. I was going fast on a dirt road, my tires locked up and it sent me sideways. I had no control of my car, I tried desperately to correct it but I had no time. We won’t have any of these answers until the police do an investigation, not that I really trust them rn but they can’t drop the ball on a crash report, they won’t be the ones doing it.


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Uralldicksipromise

I’m not saying she hit a tree I’m saying her tires could’ve locked up, that she lost control of the car while going too fast. (I’m the dumbass that hit the tree, but in that sense I’m lucky there was a tree and not a body of water, SUV’s/4-wheel drive is notorious for role overs and locked up wheels, I was warned when I got that Jeep that it might happen)


detractifyy

[Link](https://www.reddit.com/r/KielyRodni/comments/wrtxfz/old_aerial_photos_of_the_area_with_much_less_water/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) this post shows they parked near where the car was found they didn’t park all the way where you are showing


MidnightMischiefing

Have you driven into a body of water before? You keep writing as if you have. You have to put yourself in her shoes, she was young and intoxicated and it was dark out. She most likely panicked as many do in these type of situations. Even sober people have drowned in similar type accidents.


Queasy-Event6036

Are the investigators sure she drove through the dirt as your map suggests, rather than down what looks to be a boat ramp right there? Any confirmed tire tracks? I'm sure that would be difficult two weeks later and after the storms.


AutomaticWear1814

This all seems fishy to me. Even at night if anyone has been camping.. the water reflects the moonlight and shines like a mirror from every direction.


TinyGreenTurtles

That simply isn't always true. In the dark, with no light, the water looks like black pavement. There may have been very little reflection there, and we already know it was very dark and she was likely inebriated. People want this to be so much more than it is - a tragic accident. Let them all rest now without trying to further cast shade. This happens a lot, people drive into water at night. Remember [this](https://people.com/crime/toni-anderson-drove-car-missouri-river-death-cocaine/) girl? It happens to sober people sometimes, happens to inebriated people much more often than it makes national news.


AutomaticWear1814

Either way... Like you said... Even if you were wasted! you would realize your SURROUNDED by water... And on a fing BOAT RAMP. Unless it's PITCH BLACK out there... (It's not tho..because it's a campground.) But yea. I'm guessing it was so dark she can't even see the water... Is only explanation.


affenage

Or… she fell asleep. Or… she was tripping. Or… she was blind drunk. There was no moon, it had set shortly after 12 midnight. Lots of reasons an incapacitated 16 year old shouldn’t have been driving that night and lots of reasons why she may have ended up in the water.


Moal

She was probably so plastered that she couldn’t tell left from right. There were drugs at that party, so who knows if she was hallucinating or passing out behind the wheel when she rolled into the water. Toxicology test will show what was in her system. It’s such a tragic, preventable situation.


mari815

I can see how the mistake was made. What I am shocked about is that there is a fork in the road leading right to the beach so close to the party site, and it wasn’t thoroughly searched. A Honda CRV is easily spotted in 14 feet of water.


Lemur718

It is odd - she must have been pretty loaded - and just 16. I think of my own driving antics while intoxicated in my 20s...16 is very young to drive alone at night, let alone drunk or stoned. Still, she was a local and should have been on top of the directions - to me there is still a little wiggle room for foul play If someone dumped the car in the lake, I wonder if they will do an autopsy and if toxicology is no longer available after being underwater for 2 weeks.


TinyGreenTurtles

Im local and have 100% seen deeper water look like pavement in the dark.


Lemur718

That's for sure - in low or no light, headlights can be disorienting for even experienced drivers. 100 % not blaming the mom for letting her go - but I just keep thinking of how young 16 is to drive alone at night, even if she was totally sober.


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nevaehorlleh

Cars float she probably floated to where they found her and she went off the ramp.


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ap170494

Try opening the door when there’s any water near it. There’s so much pressure from the water it’s impossible. Number one thing to do is not open your door it’s your window.


nevaehorlleh

You have a very short amount of time to get out of a car once it is in the water. Water is heavy and opening a door is a bad idea and breaking the windows especially in newer vehicles from theast twenty years is very hard. Even if she hadn't possibly been drinking she still probably would not have been able to get out. The engine is also the heaviest part of the car and why it goes upside down and once it is upside down it is very unlikely you are getting out.


Even_Pollution8637

You’re really making more of this than you need to. She could’ve been knocked unconscious from the crash.


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Even_Pollution8637

I’d just suspend your disbelief until more details are released. Otherwise you’re adding to the overwhelming amount of conspiracy theories. Just because people don’t want things to add up in this way doesn’t mean that there was something nefarious going on. It’s usually the simplest answer sad as it may be. I think we’ll get more details in time but for now the worst possible thing has happened for this family and they have a loved one to lay to rest. At least they know and have the ability to put her to rest. This isn’t entertainment or a story meant for a Hollywood script. For these people it’s real life. Speculation doesn’t help them. Conspiracies especially don’t. The cops will do their due diligence and investigate now that they have the car. Time to let them work this out.


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VolatileMoistCupcake

She was drinking. Drinking enough that her friend sought out another ride home instead of going with Kiely. It's possible that she smoked weed, & if she did it's also possible it could have been laced with another drug. Also, someone could have put something in her drink. We just don't know. Toxicology results take time. I'm not in any way bashing or shaming her. When I was in college, I drove drunk and high on weed more than once. It was foolish, illegal, dangerous and I should have never done it - but I did. More than once I had people flash their brights because I forgot to turn the lights on. One time my drink was laced. I woke up inside the car several hours after I had left. I was in a parking lot 25 miles from the bar I left. My car had a a flat tire & a ton of mud and weeds stuck on the bottom from swerving off the road, but no body damage. I remember walking out of the bar at 2 a.m., getting in my car & pulling onto the road and then nothing until 5 a.m. I'm beyond lucky nothing else happened. Kiely could have been in that condition or worse. I'm sorry this happened to her. I am glad though that she was found and her family can have closure on that.


SuspiciousAd5801

What I don't understand is why didn't anyone see her turn right? If there was that many people there and they seemingly left at the same time, why didn't anyone notice. And for her "friends" to leave her alone in her condition I will never understand. If Sami was a true friend she wouldn't have left her.


MidnightMischiefing

I’m not surprised no one saw her. Everyone else was drinking and most likely wasted. When you’re at party do you pay attention to the cars coming and going?


AutomaticWear1814

Yea. This doesn't make any sense.


SeaworthinessTrue229

Exactly what I’m saying so many questions some stuff just doesn’t add up in my head


jojospacket

Don't over think it. Dont think like a sober adult. They were young and drunk. You lose attention span and critical thinking skills. I've done it myself many years ago....drinking and went wrong way. I can think of many times I was lucky something like this didn't happen to me.