Gun wielding citizen stops armed robbery
By - UnironicThatcherite
>Gun wielding citizen
Broad daylight, busy store, knife, no way to hide his identity, literally everything you can do wrong in a robbery, this guy managed to do all of them
Off duty cop or armed citizen the outcome would most likely have been the same
The good florida man
“We don’t need guns”
Nazi Germany targeted the Jews heavily while not doing much towards any other race, so not even close to comparable with wanting some sort of registry and training before owning a gun.
Registration for all people in Austria is where they started with identifying possible partisans. Reg lists are politically and socially dangerous as fuck and so are training licenses that dont last a lifetime.
This, you stupid fucking liberal sacks of human shit, are why guns are important.
Go choke on a bag of dicks -armed leftist
This comment is why you're unimportant.
U know it takes 2 seconds to see ur a troll account right???
You sound fun.
And this the man with the gun randomly got a US citizenship application out of nowhere
Pull that trigger
Dude wasn’t competent enough to deserve that
*sorts by controversial*
Love how the worker continues to pack the bananas 😂
Ha ha ha, all the snowflake bitchin' about the hero stopping the robbery, totally ignoring the asshole with the knife. Fucking pussies.
Always Conceal Carry.
Never bring a knife to a gun fight!!🔨
Every Boomer’s wet dream. Is that you John Wayne?
made me laugh, thank you kind Sir :D
That definitely isn't the case in America and the laws isn't that simple here either. Also, even if you're able to legally pull your gun out as a citizen you are still more than likely going to be subjected to some form of legal scrutiny.
In American law, precedent and statute dictate that pulling out a deadly weapon (like a gun or a knife, the law doesn't actually care which it is) to engage in assault (which is what that guy's doing by intimidating and threatening) escalates the situation such that in response, the victim *or any bystanders* can act in self defense, or in the defense of another, with the use of deadly force.
Truthfully, depending on the state this hypothetically could have occurred in if this had been in America (this obviously isn't America, trienamento is Portuguese for "Training" so it's likely a Portuguese-speaking country), the man with the gun may have been justified in killing the robber. The law doesn't require that the assailant actually start stabbing or shooting before you defend yourself, the threat is often enough if it's credible and imminent, and the belief that it was credible was sincere, and a knife in the back is certainly credible.
The laws around self defense are actually relatively simple, at least compared to other areas of law. The person trying to defend themselves can't escalate the threat level above the threat that already existed (you can't shoot someone for threatening to punch you for example), the belief that their life was in imminent danger has to be credible and sincere, and you can't have created the situation where you felt the need to defend yourself (if you punch someone and they pull out a gun, and then you pull out a gun, you're probably both going to jail and the guy you punched would have his sentence mitigated).
And with defense of another, when defending someone who would have a valid self defense claim, you are legally allowed to take whatever actions *they* would have been legally allowed to take in order to defend them. You're allowed to shoot and kill someone pressing a gun against another person's skull, for instance.
Pretty straightforward to me, honestly.
facts and logic
Unless they are rich or powerful. In that case there is a non-zero chance they are going to prison for a long time or worse.
When you don't have an argument, blame it on the rich people XD
I dont think you understand how the law works. As long as you can afford a lawyer you’ll be fine.
And could you please provide credible sources to actually back this supposed American law?
Another credible source from another state, [SC.](https://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t16c011.php)
Pay attention to 16-11-440A and that'll be your exact reference point for this privilege of defending your fellow American/person.
US common law man. "A person is privileged to use such force as reasonably appears necessary to defend him or herself against an apparent threat of unlawful and immediate violence from another," and "The right of a person to protect a third party with reasonable force against another person who is threatening to inflict force upon the third party." You can find this nearly word for word in a lot of states' criminal codes, since the federal government hasn't been delegated authority over this subject.
Here it is in Colorodo's Revised Codes: https://codes.findlaw.com/co/title-18-criminal-code/co-rev-st-sect-18-1-704.html
Here's a summary of the concept as it applies to Virginia law loaded with case cites: https://www.tmwilsonlaw.com/criminal-law/self-defense
Some states don't have statutes or codes surrounding it, but generally acknowledge the privileges laid out above.
While the law acknowledges no duty to defend others, it does acknowledge the correctness in defending others much the same way it acknowledges the wrongness of endangering others. It's foundational to the principles of law at large that you have no duty to allow yourself to come to harm as long as the threat of harm is credible, and your decision to use deadly force to end that threat is reasonable.
Maybe spend some more time at r/dgu before you say wrong things.
You wot m8?
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Of all places to rob, this goof picked a grocery store?
He probably loved Tim Roth’s character in Pulp Fiction.
lol no he didn't.there are only two possibilites: either he doesn't drop the knife and get's shot,or he does and gets to live.
he's not escalating the situation,but deescalating it.
Oh my God shut up the guy literally saved a woman from possibly getting a knife jabbed into her back; why don’t you go cry about guns somewhere else cause you may think “waaa gun bad” but in reality this guy probably saved a life or at least saved someone from major injury. Seriously what the heck was he supposed to do, watch it happen? God you people
I know right! Why even bother having armed police since insurance will cover the loss? /s
Seriously though, there's no guarantee that complying with the robber will prevent the robber from harming anybody with that knife. In fact, there are numerous documented cases of compliant victims being injured or killed in situations like this. So basically you're basically saying that people shouldn't have a right to defend themselves.
I'd challenge you to reconsider your opinion. Obviously there are risks to carrying or using a firearm, but no more so than the risk of jeopardy that the robber put everybody in by violently accosting the cashier with a knife. I think if you had a bit more empathy with people who were victimized in spite of their compliance, you'd have a more reasonable outlook here.
Yes, the responsible gun owner here is the one putting people in danger. /s some peoples heads really are so far up their own ass.
Found the gun grabber
BUT GUNS CAUSE CRIME
They do if used improperly lol... which being available to every dickass or fucktard in America doesn’t help curb that at all
Dickass is new, lemme write that down
I mean they still do lol
That's weird. Mine is in my safe, not causing any crimes.🤔
Mine is in appendix carry not causing any crimes.
Are you serious...?
You obviously don't represent every person with a gun.
So you're implying there are no criminals with guns, really?
Key word being criminal. Criminals cause crimes. Guns are the tools they sometimes use. How are you having trouble with this? 🤦♂️
And guns give them easier access to do said crimes... how are you having trouble with this?
If one of those mass shooters didn’t have a gun, they wouldn’t have been able to do said massacre.
I know I know, it’s like rocket science. But we will get through it together.
Also it’s A WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLEEEEEEEEEE lot more than “sometimes” lmao.
Mass shooters? More people were killed by bare hands than in mass shootings last year.
Ah yes because criminals care about restrictions, regulations and laws. Big brein time
Look up happy land fire. All it takes is a dollar of gas and a match. If people are motivated to do bad things they will find a way. Stop blaming the in adamant object instead of the criminal.
You literally said guns CAUSE crimes. They don't, they are simply a tool used. You're right, it really isn't rocket science. 🤦♂️
It's funny cause being from the UK where guns are illegal we do t really have much gun crime....
It's kinda like giving easy access to harmful substances make it easier for people to do bad things... And in the US it's easier to buy a gun than to buy a load of other harmful stuff that's why gun crime is so common
Just like in Mexico a load of guns are easily accesses and gives the worst crime rate in the world...
Just a thought...
>we do t really have much gun crime....
**proceeds to get stabbed.**
Yeah and that sucks and you know what people should do? Make it a more secure transaction to get said knife... Don't try justifying gun crime cause knife crime is a thing as well that just proves my point more, if you don't have access to a weapon less crime will be committed, but per head, in 2020 UK had 256 knife related crimes, with about 70 deaths, however in the US nearly 20,000 people died from gun crime, not overall gun crime in the US and on top of that 24,000 people committed suicide with guns... that's just the deaths so yeah you act all high and mighty about people killing other people.
Btw you do not have a population 200 times bigger than the UK, which is what you'd need for the statistic to be some what equal...
UK = 65 or so million
US = 324 or so million
Just under 5 times more people in the US...
Guns don't cause the crime. They're just used sometimes. In this instance it was a knife. Should we ban all knives now.
No. But it's A LOT easier to kill someone with a gun then a knife. A knife is extremely close and personal. A gun can be fired from afar. You can just drive up to someone, spray, then peel out of there. You can't do anything like that with a knife.
You can't be comparing knives and guns to each other, they are completely different ball parks. Life is a little more nuanced than that.
Hell I’d be a lot more scared of someone with a knife than a gun.
Also, you can kill someone with a spoon, a car, a piano, a walking stick, a lamp, a tomahawk, fists, a power drill, a hammer, alcohol, tobacco, all sorts of good stuff.
But yeah bro go on, make a fool of yourself on the internet
It's actually a lot harder to kill someone with a gun than a knife. It's really easy to miss even at close range. Knives are much more dangerous and never run out of ammo. Sticking someone with a knife like the one in the video can do much more damage than a 9mm.
Yo my knife ran out of ammo once though
Bruh I get you’re trying to show that guns are better to keep around than to ban, but this is not true at all.
Funny how knives kill more people than the stuff that’s always being talked about on the news.
What are you talking about? Knives absolutely do not kill more than guns.
Never said they do. I said they kill more than “some of the stuff talked about on the news”, which is usually referring to rifles.
Also, If you were to take out say handgun murders, you’d pretty much simplify firearm murders down to a few thousand.
Rifles sure, but nobody is talking about just only rifles. You are. We were talking about guns in general and then you interjected.
>Also, If you were to take out say handgun murders, you’d pretty much simplify firearm murders down to a few thousand.
"Only a few thousand" Yikes.
**Handguns** - 6,368
**Rifles** - 364
**Total Firearms** - 10,258
**Knives** - 1,476
**Knives + blunt objects** - 1873
Stop with your bad faith arguments.
10k ain’t shit in comparison to literally any other type of death, firearm related murders are a nothing burger.
Especially when you factor in the amount of defensive firearm usages being in the [hundreds of thousands ](https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3)
Also, none of my arguments were made in bad faith. Everything I have said is factual
I enjoy my firearms as much as the next person, but your “few thousands” statement just feels tone deaf to the fact of people losing their lives.
You sound like the losers who said Covid was fake, and that we should die to get the economy going again.
>10k ain’t shit in comparison to literally any other type of death, firearm related murders are a nothing burger.
**We are only talking about firearms**. Holy shit, stop bringing up irrelevant things.
You said knives kill more than firearms which is **factually** wrong. Now you keep trying to move the goalpost.
Americans masturbating furiously
Oh sorry, thought we were listing things we’ve never had
I don’t get it but I upvoted it
over your dead body for making a pointless comment.
Why is this pointless and why am I dead?
You were literally trying to make fun of a guy who saved a woman’s life. As if you would’ve intervened in a situation like that lol
I'm not making fun of the guy, I'm making fun of Americans. This is their wet dream.
What’s wrong with the great American wet dream? Sounds like you’re missing out lol
I just think it's dumb, statistically speaking. I am glad it worked out in this video.
We don’t care about the statistics because we know it’s bullshit propaganda anyways. Just protect yourself. Guns are a tool. If you need it, it’s there.
If you need a gun your society is wack as fuck and you should do something to make it better
Ps. Shooting everyone is not the solution please keep thinking
society aint shitty the world is shitty and Americans aint victims. Get shot in russia the cops there won’t even look for you lol smh wake up bruh. What you gonna do if someone points one in your face? shit your pants? lol
That's, uh, an interesting opinion. I'm big into statistics and facts myself, but I do realize they're not for everyone.
So what facts and statistics were you using when describing it as an American's wet dream? Looks like your own biased view.🤷♂️🤡
The only fact we know is nobody cares about you but yourself. That man put his life on the line to protect a total stranger. I’m sure he was terrified but did it since it was the right thing to do. What’s the statistics on lives saved by guns? There is none. Because it’s propaganda.
Love how everyone is assuming this is in America. If you go full screen the name of the store or whatever is on that guy who is bagging vest looks Spanish to me.
It's Portuguese for "in-training"
It's probably Brazil and the guy with gun is probably an off duty cop
The guy behind him put up an M-16 and the train continues
Lots of race in America dumbass
I kinda didn’t get it. Is this a whoosh moment?
Something something knife to a gunfight…?
Csgo? So and so brought a knife to a gunfight
Don’t gunfight a knife I think
Knife a don’t gunfight bring.. there it is
So no one is commenting on the asshole with the knife? Seriously?
They’re too busy complaining that the guy had a gun because their only mentality is “waaaa gun bad”
Ok so what should people be commenting in your opinion?
I just see an asshole with a knife robbing a store, I don’t have any deeper insight about that really. Feel free to share if you think more needs to be said.
They're too busy defending or berating gun laws.
Noted!! They are well trained and oblivious to the actual perpetrator in the video.
The armed citizen had really great situational control. He waited for the attacker to look the other way with attention on the cashier that the attacker was sticking the knife with under their arm.
He is a police man, undercover cop, not an armed citizen. Let me leave this here: There were at least 9 mass shootings across the US this weekend
Funny how “mass shootings” are a complete fraction of the actual firearm deaths in the US. In comparison to the hundreds of thousands of defensive gun uses every year.
Either way, I bet the lady with the knife in her underarm was glad to have a person with a gun to stop their life from being threatened for a few bucks...
Lol. Some gun loving snowflake reported this post as "harassment".
East europe is way more conservative than USA, but never in my 28 years heard a gunshot and never seen someone carry a gun here. And im into "dangerous" things like nightlife, drinking outdoors, urbex, hiking... But guess what? I had two surgeries done as a child and my poor parents werent forced to sell our house because of them, thanx to mostly "free" healthcare. How can someone fight so much for their rights to have worse life is really fascinating to me.
Yeah because when you're walking down a lonely street in your country and this happens, you just get stabbed and looted like a video game. Cmon dude, EAST Europe? Not sure if you guys are doing much better in terms of quality of life besides internet speeds lmao. Also, pretty sure this isn't even USA in the video, so you kind of just sound like a moron.
Edit: "treinamento" on the worker's shirt means "training" in Portuguese, so yeah...Brazil lol. We have some problems for sure, but the circlejerk of USA hate is honestly amusing sometimes.
Europeans have to try and feel better about themselves SOMEHOW.
Lower murder rates and national healthcare do.
Universal Heath care is worth what you pay for it. The UK trumpets its NHS, for example, but some of us remember Charlie Gard. And lower murder rates? If we could take our inner cities out of the equation, we’d probably be pretty close to you. And our constitution preserves the right of armed self-defense for us unwashed rabble, despite the opinion of our “betters”.
'Universal Heath care is worth what you pay for it': 'A comparison of health systems in 11 wealthy nations has found the US falling short by multiple measures, while the UK’s National Health Service leads in several categories.'
'And lower murder rates? If we could take our inner cities out of the equation, we’d probably be pretty close to you.': My garden has never been the scene of a murder, and so it's the safest place in the World.
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How unobservant and out of touch with reality do you have to be to be this guy?
You can tell its not US because the cashier is sitting down. Pretty sure there's some corporate laws saying your employees need to suffer in place in the US.
At aldi the cashiers sit down
With stores in the US. Where the cashiers sit down.
With German corporate policies
The point I was trying to make was that it could have been the US even if the cashier was sitting down
Your point was obvious to everyone who is literate.
Username checks out
Wow. Nightlife, drinking outdoors, AND hiking? Well if you've never seen it, it obviously doesnt exist.
Idk about you but I've never been on a hiking trip that didn't end in a hairy firefight. Elk are fierce warriors.
As someone from post communist shithole, im baffled by americans, how are they ok with things like people carrying guns in the streets, and poor people dying because they cannot afford healthcare.
Fucking east europeans. Equating shit that isnt the same.
As an american citizen who carries a gun AND believes health care should be free, im here to tell you, its greed. Greed keeps health care, (what should be a basic human right,) unaffordably, laughably, disgustingly expensive. The gun is because we have very real problems; drug addicts, aggressive, dangerous homeless people, mass shooter situations, random violence that occurs everyday. In short, shits fucked here, my guy.
Apart from the mass shootings none of those things are unique.
Oh no, i know. But your societal vagrants are less desperate, or i simply dont care because MY reality is right here, hopefully never having to look down the barrel of my gun.
I'm not the original person you replied to, was just pointing out that having every one carry a gun is not necessarily the only solution to the problems you listed.
Oh my bad, my response is still relevant. Im not going to open up this old discussion, i simply dont have the time, but if EVERYONE carried a gun, id argue that some people might think twice about victimizing random folks. Mass shootings would decrease, id hope at least.
The evidence actually shows the opposite. Here's a thought experiement though: if everyone carrying guns would be safer then why don't we give nukes to every country?
Nah, give every citizen a nuke.
I agree with you, the only thing unique he said is the mass shooting, but from where I am from shit is messed up as well and we can't own guns legally, but still have gun shooting at daylight, mafias from diferent nationalities moving drugs, people, prostitution... and I am pretty sure that if people here could have easy access to guns it would be worse, not because we are less civilized or poorly educated, but because people is stupid
If only I had the nerves of the guy that kept bagging groceries as it unfolded
Lmao he didn't even notice
belongs in r/conservative or nra ( /s pls dont)
I love how these people only think in black and white, its sad and pathetic just ignore these politcal vampires
Check out r/SocialistRA. Don't have to be conservative to be pro gun.
Only conservatives can enjoy this? Yea fuck you
Fuck off mate
Go be a snowflake in r/conservative
Bro shut the fuck up
God shut the fuck up
bro shut up
reminds me of when I was eating chicken at 2am in a fast food place watching 8 people fighting
Hahaha that’s awesome and really breaking down stereotypes
that guy who with gun planed to robbing . but he doesn't see this coming . really pisss off
what chu say?
#that guy who with gun planed to robbing . but he doesn't see this coming . really pisss off
One more time, with feeling
That guy... who? With gun planed? To robbing?! BUT HE DOES NOT see this coming, brother. Really.. Piss him off.
Ah okay. Thank you!
Yeah, that's not how that simply works in America.
Except you can find several examples of it happening.
Why not? Church shooting in Texas was literally stopped by an armed civilian
I just cringe at the thought of regular citizens now trying to be heroes and getting themselves killed. Or hurting others.
It happens all the time and lives are saved. What are you cringing about?
I bet it doesn't happen as much as the deaths caused by lax gun laws. This video is bollocks