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Hostiletarget

Damn his face left quite a dent in that door


Psychological-Cost59

First thing I noticed. Like- damn, I can only imagine what his face looks like the next couple days after seeing the door


Arthurlurk1

I think it denting is better because it would absorb the force


Psychological-Cost59

He definitely hit it in the ‘softest’ spot of the door, the rebar is below where he hit, but it’s still sheet metal and his nose is cartilage. You are not wrong though!


easyweasel

They're going to need to see a dentist


zarmaglorg7

And that kids is why you wear a helmet


MikElectronica

And use the rear brake.


TeemuKai

Wrong. The rear brake would have done fuck all to slow him down. Front brake is about 90-100% of the braking force in an emergency stop on a bike. He just paniced / didn't have time to shift his weight back / grabbed too much brake too quick.


Cuacas

The front brake is actually 70% of the braking force on a bike/motorcycle. The right rear quarter panel provided the remaining 30% in this case. ;) Still wouldn't mattered since he was 100% going too fast for the traffic.


elheber

That's for normal braking. For emergency stops, it can go much higher. Still not 100% like the other guy said (at least not throughout the entire stoppage); you don't want the rear wheel to lift until the very end at most.


Cuacas

Thank you!! I was really trying to be sarcastic in that message (the part where 30% of his braking force being from him hitting the car. 😁), but unlike him your answer is completely logical and makes sense. Please take my upvote! 😊


easter_islander

Depends on the specific brakes. I've had some where that I can hold the wheel just a fraction above the ground with total control over the entire stop from speed. Other brakes are harder to modulate. I suspect in practice you get better braking retaining a slight weight on the rear wheel than having it just slightly above the ground, due to the steeper angle from CoG to contact patch, and therefore reduced horizontal force available. Full power braking on the front wheel from speed, with arms braced and weight pushed back and low, rear wheel starting to lift, is something every cyclist should practice every ride, to have in their muscle memory and instincts for emergencies. Otherwise you end up like the guy we see here when the emergency happens and you grab a handful of both brakes in panic.


TeemuKai

It's not 70%, it's 100% because if you're braking correctly (in an emergency stop) your rear wheel will be barely touching the ground and will thus have exactly 0% effect on stopping the bike.


JaxMGK

You’re both wrong it’s actually 10% luck, 20% skill, 15% concentrated power of will, 5% pleasure, 50% pain.


ChaosAndEntropy

And a 100% reason to remember the name


Cuacas

Interesting theory. It's still wrong, but it's interesting nonetheless. The MSF, and physics say otherwise. https://bn-adv.com/blogs/motorcycle-blog/should-i-use-front-and-rear-brake I 'get' what you're saying but technically it's still incorrect. If you're applying 100% of your braking force to the front wheel and the rear wheel loses contact with the pavement, I hate to break it to you but you're doing it wrong. Emergency situation or not. In the video he literally did exactly what you're saying and incorrectly applied 100% of his braking force to his front brake. You can clearly see that it wasn't the correct thing to do and he did a head-first endo into the rear quarter panel. The idiot left a pretty good dent in that panel too. :D Had he done it "correctly" ...well he wouldn't have been riding like an idiot in the first place, but ignoring that fact, he'd have applied both brakes. The rear brake in addition to the front brake would have given him more braking force than the little braking force he'd lose by not locking up the front wheel and losing control. Don't just take my word on it though: https://totalwomenscycling.com/road-cycling/technique/how-to-emergency-brake-suddenly-without-skidding You are correct in that he didn't have time to shift his weight backwards though. In this specific case it wouldn't have made much of a difference. He was headed for that quarter panel one way or another since he had no time to react. If he used both brakes he'd still have hit that car but the front wheel would have taken most of the impact instead of his head, though I suspect he'd have still hit the car with his body. I'm going to anticipate your next reply and say "...but ...but, that's for a motorcycle! Bicycles are different!". Don't tell a Harley guy this but a motorcycle is really just a bicycle with a motor strapped into it. :D The physics are the same between the two and the only major difference between them in this specific case is the weight, the source of forward momentum, and the capabilities of the braking system. I own and regularly ride a road bike, fat bike, and a motorcycle. Over the years I upgraded my road bike with Shimano Ultegra rim brakes and Kool Stop pads. It was a major upgrade over the stock Tektro brakes the bike came with but they stink compared to the crappy stock hydraulic Tektro disc brakes on my Specialized Fatboy, though I did upgrade the shitty stock rotors to Shimano Ice Techs. The difference in stopping power between the two is crazy even in brown pants moments (which I've had plenty in my lifetime so far). There is still a measurable difference with either of them when you either use just the front, rear, or both brakes \*even in an emergency situation\*. On the other hand it's nearly impossible to do an endo on my motorcycle even in an emergency stop but that's because it's got ABS brakes. ;) Not every bike has that though so at the MSF course they tell you time and time again to use BOTH brakes, especially in an emergency situation. The other thing they make you practice is brake modulation, something the idiot in the video didn't do.


TeemuKai

Since you bring it up in your message, I've been cycling for about 30 years, of which 15 actively in xc, dirt, DH, and road, and riding motocross for about 15 years and occasionally streetbikes, so I have some experience as well. >Interesting theory. It's still wrong, but it's interesting nonetheless. The MSF, and physics say otherwise. >https://bn-adv.com/blogs/motorcycle-blog/should-i-use-front-and-rear-brake >I 'get' what you're saying but technically it's still incorrect. If you're applying 100% of your braking force to the front wheel and the rear wheel loses contact with the pavement, I hate to break it to you but you're doing it wrong. Emergency situation or not. Ok, might not be exactly 100%, but around 90-99,9%. The physics unfortunately also say that if you're braking hard enough on the front your rear wheel will lift. So if your rear is still in contact with the ground you could be slowing down more with your front brake. The only way the rear will stay in contact under maximum braking is if you can hang off the back of your bike, which is not that easy on most motorcycles. Also, you can tell that to the guys in MotoGP, since they're obviously doing it wrong all the time https://youtu.be/JXQiHZ1av4Q The weight shifting picture is incorrect in the link. If you press both brakes the rear doesn't magically squat if you're hard enough on the front brake. >In the video he literally did exactly what you're saying and incorrectly applied 100% of his braking force to his front brake. You can clearly see that it wasn't the correct thing to do and he did a head-first endo into the rear quarter panel. Lol, way to misunderstand and mischaracterize what I said. I'm not saying you should press the front brake lever with 100% of the grip power you have in your hand so you fly over the bars. I'm saying if you're braking hard enough, correctly, your rear wheel will not help in slowing you down as it will not be in contact with the ground and cannot apply a braking force to a surface. >Had he done it "correctly" ...well he wouldn't have been riding like an idiot in the first place, but ignoring that fact, he'd have applied both brakes. The rear brake in addition to the front brake would have given him more braking force than the little braking force he'd lose by not locking up the front wheel and losing control. No need to lock the front. And I haven't said anything to imply that the front should be locked. >Don't just take my word on it though: https://totalwomenscycling.com/road-cycling/technique/how-to-emergency-brake-suddenly-without-skidding Article is clearly aimed at less experienced riders. When you're experienced enough you can modulate the front brake so you rear is hardly touching the ground. You can still apply the rear but it won't be doing anything until it makes contact and once it does you can apply more front again. Here's a better article someone had linked in this thread with actual experienced riders and photos https://www.renehersecycles.com/how-to-brake-on-a-bicycle/ >You are correct in that he didn't have time to shift his weight backwards though. In this specific case it wouldn't have made much of a difference. He was headed for that quarter panel one way or another since he had no time to react. Indeed. Though I'd say that if he didn't panic and lock up his front but had control over it he would not have flown over the bars, so that would be a huge difference. >If he used ~~both brakes~~ less front brake he'd still have hit that car but the front wheel would have taken most of the impact instead of his head, though I suspect he'd have still hit the car with his body. Rear brake didn't do much for him, or did it? >I'm going to anticipate your next reply and say "...but ...but, that's for a motorcycle! Bicycles are different!". Don't tell a Harley guy this but a motorcycle is really just a bicycle with a motor strapped into it. :D The physics are the same between the two and the only major difference between them in this specific case is the weight, the source of forward momentum, and the capabilities of the braking system. And the riding techniques are totally different as well. Weight shifting and moving on the bike especially. Can't hang off the back of a motorcycle quite as easily, can you? That being said it is easier to keep the rear planted under braking on a bicycle because you can shift your weight over the rear axle and most of the mass of the system is in the rider and not the machine. And even I do press the rear every time, but under emergency braking the rear does next to nothing to slow you down unless you have the time to hang your ass over the rear axle. >I own and regularly ride a road bike, fat bike, and a motorcycle. Over the years I upgraded my road bike with Shimano Ultegra rim brakes and Kool Stop pads. It was a major upgrade over the stock Tektro brakes the bike came with but they stink compared to the crappy stock hydraulic Tektro disc brakes on my Specialized Fatboy, though I did upgrade the shitty stock rotors to Shimano Ice Techs. The difference in stopping power between the two is crazy even in brown pants moments (which I've had plenty in my lifetime so far). There is still a measurable difference with either of them when you either use just the front, rear, or both brakes *even in an emergency situation*. Cool, I also have a road bike with a full Ultegra set. And mentioned other experience at the top. But how does the rest of this relate to the topic? Yes, brakes are different. >On the other hand it's nearly impossible to do an endo on my motorcycle even in an emergency stop but that's because it's got ABS brakes. ;) Not every bike has that though so >at the MSF course they tell you time and time again to use BOTH brakes, especially in an emergency situation. That is because perfect braking is hard to master and unlikely to happen in a panic situation. >The other thing they make you practice is brake modulation, something the idiot in the video didn't do. Cool. They definitely did not.


Cuacas

I was referring to the front/rear/front+rear stopping distance pic in the first link. Fact still stands that if you're applying that much force to the front brake that your rear tire comes off the ground, you're not doing it right. In not trying to miscategorgize what you're saying (believe it or not). I'm saying that if you're relying 100% on your front brake to stop you, even in an emergency situation (bicycle or motorcycle), you're gonna have a bad day. 😁 You ARE right about the mastering bit though. When I took the MSF the instructor kept giving me shit because I couldn't do the emergency braking thing he kept trying to show the class. What made it even worse is that he wanted us to downshift, dump the clutch, AND apply front and rear brakes all at the same time. All on a 20 year old beat up Kawasaki Intruder. Uhhh... You want WHAT....??!? 😂 The reason I was having a bitch of a time right then and there (and since you ride both you're going to know this is true), up until that point I've always rode bicycles. I've been riding bicycles for what has to be almost 40+ years now (yes I'm old... 🖕😁). I'm in the habit of applying both brakes in emergency situations because it's muscle memory at this point and I normally don't even think about doing the action. Anyways, what's the rear brake lever on a bike is the lever for the front brake on a motorcycle, and the left lever is the clutch. I lost count of the number of times I nearly high sided off of that already beat up P.O.S. because I kept locking the front tire. Took me forever to get the muscle memory down for a motorcycle. 😁 BTW, you missed the sarcasm in my first reply. 😉. Like I said, 30% of the braking force in the dude's case came from him hitting his head on the car. 😁


TeemuKai

>Fact still stands that if you're applying that much force to the front brake that your rear tire comes off the ground, you're not doing it right. TIL everyone in MotoGP are braking incorrectly.


easter_islander

It's not just theory. Except with low traction problems or defective brakes, the rear brake has no contribution to optimal emergency braking on a bicycle. You will have **zero** weight on the rear wheel at optimal braking. The laws of physics do not allow you to have friction without pressure, not matter what authority you quote.


Dr_Mickael

I'm not familiar with bicycles without rear suspensions, but with a rear suspensions (bicycle or motorbike) you start braking with the rear wheel slightly before the front one. It has for effect to sit the bike on the ground (the rear suspension is compressed), thus way less mass transfer to the front, more weight to the rear so more braking power to the rear wheel. In conclusion, don't speak for stuff you understand nothing about.


TeemuKai

Lol, I've ridden bicycles for 30 years and 15 years of motocross. 😄


Dr_Mickael

And if after all these years you still believe than the rear wheel has to off the ground then you're the stupidest rider ever


TeemuKai

You yourself said you're not familiar with bikes. I'm not saying it needs to, but it usually does when you're on the brakes hard enough.


AnnieByniaeth

That's sort of true. But I avoided a similar accident (though in my case it was a clear road, person pulling over simply didn't see me and had no reason not to) thanks to my rear brake locking, rear wheel sliding as I lent to avoid the car, so putting me on another trajectory when I released the brake, so just missing the bonnet.


yearofthekraken

Actually you are the one who is the wrong one! It will surprise you to know that MrCyclist should have done the wheelie and jumped over MrCardriver! In my place we do this everyday!


TeemuKai

Ah yes. Or should have used a Knight Industries K.I.T.T.^TM bicycle


yearofthekraken

Why not use Jump Button to escape to victory?


easter_islander

Rear brake has a fraction of the emergency braking power of the front. The harder you brake, the more inertia shifts pressure onto the front wheel and off the rear, reducing friction of the rear tire and therefore braking available. Pressure and available braking conversely is increasing on the front. The maximum braking available is enough power on the front brake so the rear wheel is weightless but not rising, while simultaneously the rider pushes their weight as far back and low as possible. This is not something people can do without practice, and sadly many people practice this first time in situations like in the video, with the same results. If you cycle in traffic you should regularly, like every ride, practice full power braking with the front brake, arms braced, weight pushed back. You will need that muscle memory one day. I would not be at all surprised if this rider was a person who usually uses the rear brake. Those are the riders who don't have the skills in an emergency and tend to grab hard at both brakes.


syang2046

Or just be aware of your surrounding when riding up to a busy intersection with loads of cars just sitting there.


SuchSerendipitous

This. Not wearing a helmet is what gives me hyperfocus. After getting a lot of experience the chance of being hit on foot is much higher than on a bike. Drive your bike like you’re a responsible racer. Always look everywhere all the time and plan up to a mile ahead. If in doubt, brake Edit: brake instead of break lol.


gorge-mantic

I’m thinking his face did break. Oh, brake.


zarmaglorg7

I mean idk the road laws where that is so I can't say who's in the wrong, but wearing safety equipment is basic common sense. A helmet and elbow pads in this instance would've absolutely reduced the damage he'd have taken


TeemuKai

Who the fuck wears elbow pads while riding a bike? 😄


DivingForBirds

Do you wear a helmet when driving?? It’s safer, and will also reduce head trauma.


zarmaglorg7

In a car there's no need since already have safety measures in place. Airbags do the same job as a helmet would do only better. In addition wearing a helmet in a car could potentially restrict head mobility making it less safe to wear one, which is an issue a cyclist wouldn't have. Try again bud, and this time come up with a more logical argument...


Rolancer_

I came here just to say this. Now, instead of neck injury and less damage to the cranium, they have probably cracked their skull wide open and made a huge dent in the car.. from their human head.


Mustangfast85

That dent looks that much more painful seeing he had no helmet. I was glad to see him move (be alive) but I’d say he was the idiot in this one


MichiganGeezer

Go blasting through stopped traffic with no regard for your own safety? Your sense of self preservation seems lacking.


stupac62

The first indicator was lack of a helmet.


KevQS13

And hitting the front brakes….


Xtranous

To be fair he wasn’t going to stop in time with the rear brakes… not like that mattered though


iHiTuDiE

Glad the car was there to stop his face from being a meat crayon


TeemuKai

Front brake is about 90-100% of the braking force in an emergency stop on a bike. He just paniced / didn't have time to shift his weight back / grabbed too much brake too quick.


MichiganGeezer

My generation (Gen X) never wore helmets unless we were racing and the sanctioning body mandated it. Very few wore them for daily commutes to work, and the ones who did were treated as oddballs. We took our brain damage like men! 🤣


ZTG_VFX

Yeah it's all fun and games till half your brain is on the side walk.


Lettuce-Beginning

Cyclist needs to learn to pay attention


Lizid_King

Yeah. All those stopped cars wasn't a sign that you might want to slow down a tad?


Charming_Extension

Seriously. In those situations I’m goin slower, up on the pedals trying to see over the cars. You never know what’s happening


RQ705

And use back break first! Wouldn’t have flipped ass over tea kettle otherwise.


havereddit

I think he might have suffered a back break due to not using his back brake


Xtranous

The rear brake would have just skid at that speed with the reaction time he had. Only way he was stopping quick enough was with the front brake.. didn’t matter too much anyway considering that he still smoked the vehicle


SuchSerendipitous

Using the rear brake while breaking out at the back might’ve been enough. Or at least use both brakes and lean back a little. My focus would’ve been on getting parallel with the car and then smashing into it sideways. It’s what I did the only time I hit a car. It hurt my arm badly but that was all. It was a car that crossed the road I was on and then made a full stop right before me without there being a reason for it. They must’ve been drunk. They were very nervous and tried to get away immediately.


wine_dude_52

That was my thought. First, wear a helmet. Then he is going too fast for the traffic situation. Rear brake and slide the bike sideways. My brother did that on his motorcycle when a car pulled out in front of him. Slammed in the car sideways. Got bruised but never left the cycle.


chaywong

To be fair, he didn't stop, the bike did.


Curious-Peak7844

Underrated /\


TeemuKai

Nah. The rear brake would have done fuck all to slow him down. The front brake is about 90-100% of the braking force in an emergency stop on a bike. He just paniced / didn't have time to shift his weight back / grabbed too much brake too quick.


easter_islander

That's fairly decent advice for safer braking for low-skilled riders. I know it's the advice often given in the UK (?). Naive riders brake hard with loose arms and flop forward, which is exactly what you'd do to flip the bike. You need to brace your arms and keep your weight back. Braking rear brake first makes people start bracing with some relatively mild braking power before bringing on the *real* braking power of the front. So it's a good technique to help inexperienced riders avoid the endo. However, it's far from optimal. Front brake while bracing arms, shoving weight back, and modulating the brake to keep your rear wheel at the point of rising will stop you the fastest that physics allows. It requires practice until it's instinct though.


Fermats_Last_Account

Situational awareness


Tekmologyfucz

Yet he and his ilk will defend him until the end against those dangerous cars.


Azdak66

Not I. When I was a cycling commuter, last thing I wanted was to make a line of cars have to pass me again.


capt_dan

wow this fucking sub smh


hermandirkzw

True. But the same could be said for the car. If you can't see behind the stopped cars, you should proceed with caution.


atrain324

Lol he's going like 5mph. Pretty sure that's cautious.


codguy231998409489

BS - that car was doing a nice slow turn into a parking spot. Nobody could expect a bike speeding up the side.


hermandirkzw

That's why you should check. But I agree that the cyclists should have slowed down. Not sure of the downvotes, people apparently disagree with checking for cyclists, which makes me sad. Little effort that saves lives, whatever you may think of cyclists.


Singer-Funny

You as a bike are considered a car on the side of the road and have to respect the same laws. This was 100% bike dudes fault as he was BY FAR THE one who could see the situation best.


hermandirkzw

I agree on that the bike should have slowed down and check the situation. But that does not mean he is 100% at fault. You might argue something like 90%, but I'm pretty sure that the cyclist had the right of way. However, I'm no expert in Ukrainian traffic laws ;)


chaywong

If the bike had slowed down there wouldn't have even been a situation. They were speeding and crashed because of it.


I-Have-N0-Username

If they don't want to die at the hand of moronic cagers like the one failing to yield here then yeah.


Brad_Breath

Similar happened to me on my motorcycle a few years ago while filtering. There are plenty of places on a morning commute where traffic is constantly piled up like this, so it’s not an obvious warning to slow down. When the lady turned across traffic and I got wiped out, there was a “witness” from Queensland roads in his own car. He was aggressive towards me and saying it was all my fault and he is an expert blah blah. Of course the letter of the law is that if you are turning across traffic it’s your responsibility to ensure it’s clear. Filtering is legal, so it was all her fault. Having said that I did learn something from my accident, and I could have avoided by being more careful. Edit: I’d love if one of the downvoters could explain why you are downvoting?


Marrsvolta

You gotta use the rear brake if you don't want to torpedo yourself into a car


twhitfit

This is actually not really true. Front brakes are massively more effective. You have to learn to brace yourself properly, but on dry pavement the weight shift of braking means that rear brakes give you zero traction. Front brakes used effectively are 90-100% of your braking power on dry pavement.


AlwaysObamasFault

Wrong it’s 70% front 30% rear. Unless you do what this guy did. Edit: I was wrong as what I said was for a car not a bike.


twhitfit

Not wrong. Read: https://www.renehersecycles.com/how-to-brake-on-a-bicycle/ Maybe 70/30 in a car, or not on dry pavement. I've experimented a lot with hard braking on a bike over the years.


AlwaysObamasFault

Edited my last comment. Now I have a sad face and am going to mutilate my genitalia to feel better about myself.


gammonater

Are you okay, friend?


easter_islander

Also from the great Sheldon Brown https://sheldonbrown.com/brakturn.html (though the mention of thighs hitting bars is absurd - once you've gone that far you're half way over already)


DrWatson24

Can we call this idiots on bikes? Why did this moron slam on his front breaks so hard 😂


LexParsimoniae70

Panic


Perfect_Translator_2

Only had front brakes?


DrWatson24

lol shouldn’t be riding a bike that only has front breaks.... unless you don’t like your teeth very much


Intrepid-Love3829

God forbid he has to go down a hill


Robjla

Yea Um slow down bike dude cars don’t get hurt you do


SargathusWA

Cyclists are a car when they want and pedestrians when they want never care for rules and this is the result. Most cyclists want respect as a car but when there is red light for cars they use the crosswalk now they are pedestrian smh. When i see cyclists i give them at least 10 feet space .


1ardent

I watched a cyclist nearly get killed today. Seven different times on my way home. Including once when they were on the interstate (which is very illegal, to be clear). But my absolute favorite was the woman blasting opposite the direction of traffic on her street pretending she doesn't have to stop at an intersection and nearly getting plowed by a truck. DC/MD/VA cyclists are something else.


CrackNAg

Worst drivers in country


mangomoo2

I’m so careful driving around bikes and videos like this make me so nervous. There is no way a turning car would have been able to see the cyclist!


Furthea

Aye, while there is nothing wrong with a cyclist slipping past the stopped traffic, this one was doing so a a very dangerous speed and the driver of the car sure as hell couldn't see him through the cars.


mangomoo2

I know! I just really don’t want anyone to get hurt and it’s so hard when they do things like this! The ones in my town like to ignore all the stop signs (we have a lot of 4 way stops) and you never know if they are going to stop or not.


LexParsimoniae70

And they are all squishy like pedestrians. I live in a college town and the bikers all act like they are immortals.


Technical_Desk_267

5000% true. I've been saying this all the time. Thank god I moved out from a city. But this is the case everywhere in the world. They pick who they are by circumstances. They cherry pick nice stuff from both. And then they whine, get angry and complain about having this and that right. I'm so fed up with them. They're a random function amongst cars that obay rules. You never know what a cyclist does. Now, most of them behave well, but then we have these. This is why you can never trust one.


SuchSerendipitous

The same way you can’t trust cars because a small percentage unpredictable.


AlphaSerra18

You would expect someone who is mounted on a piece of metal that weights the same as a gym dumbbell to have a better self preservation instinct around machines of thousands of pounds.


MeGoingTOWin

So true. And most are uppity assholes. You can't tell me to respect you as a vehicle and then disobey signs for vehicles(ie stop signs).


toothitch

You’re projecting some dumb bullshit onto a massive population of people who have nothing in common with each other besides their mode of transportation. If being a dumbfuck like this guy had anything to do with being on a bike, Reddit wouldn’t be full of videos of dumbfucks rolling their cars and bursting into flames. What you’re complaining about is **people**. **People** are the assholes.


SuchSerendipitous

Thank you for talking sensibly. I’m shocked at how most everyone here seems to think all cyclists are bad and only the car drivers that are shared here are bad.


DivingForBirds

Hi did nothing wrong here. You’re a ducking moron.


B-in-Va

I'm going to say this is an idiot on a bike. That is not a dedicated bike lane. He should be stuck in traffic with the cars. Most likely the car driver will be held responsible which I personally don't think is fair. BTW - nice face print on the rear door.


Arnumor

I don't think bikes should be stuck in traffic, even when they're using the same lanes. That puts the bikers at severe risk of being crushed if something even slightly goes wrong. That being said; A person on a bike shouldn't be bombing through stopped cars, like this. Move forward carefully and respect right of way for cross-traffic, sure, but don't just blindly speed through.


One_Wheel_Drive

Yeah. The lane positioning was fine. The speed and situational awareness were the issues. If they had begun slowing down sooner and paid more attention then this could've been avoided.


GhoulishVortex

Even if there was a bike lane you expect some level of yielding at a junction. He was just plain flat out.


Parallelism09191989

I rarely say this, but your comment is 100% correct and has provided my opinion with clarity. Thank you!


socrates1975

What song is that?


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Armandoggpussymaster

I would say that nobody is in the wrong, it was just a bad place bad time situation .


SoWokeIdontSleep

And this why you a) wear a helmet b) don't break with your front brakes 1st


superdubes

That's normally something you learn the hard way the first time you get a bike with hand brakes. How did he not learn that until now?


TeemuKai

You're wrong on point b there. If you know what you're doing you only need to use the front brake as the rear wheel will lift off the ground slightly and have no effect on braking.


Valtirith

his face dented that car after proving he's shit at bike riding...


12threeunome

I did this to a mailbox. This is why I stick with a stationary bike now.


Valtirith

fair call I broke my bike in rage so...


12threeunome

So did my dad! Yet another moment when my biking skills inspired some damage. Okay, I hit a parked car too.


Valtirith

Oh no!! Gotta stop playing that harmonica while riding!


12threeunome

Lol I guess!


Juicyjewsss

Sounds like he’s watching porn in traffic.


LatinKing57

I tried to Shazam the track and got nothing back… you may be right.


jl_theprofessor

This video is just aces.


Cool_Cheetah658

This is one of those tough ones. Driver couldn't see the bicyclist, and the bicyclist didn't see the car either. There doesn't appear to be a bike lane, so the bicyclist may have been illegally passing. Car could get a failure to yield. Depending on state laws, either could have been ruled at fault here. If the driver was waved on, then the person waving is at fault. Also, you should always wear a helmet.


TeemuKai

It's clear as day the car is at fault since they are the one crossing a lane and are required to yield. The license plates are European so state laws don't apply. Bikes are allowed to filter past stopped traffic on the right side of the road if there is no bike lane/path they can use. Situational awareness from both would have helped and the helmet definitely. Also, better bike handling skills and not panicing would have avoided going over the bars.


LexParsimoniae70

I just watched my first snuff film


twhitfit

All the comments here are hilarious, because every time a car causes a crash by pulling in front of another stopped car everyone here blames the turning car, but when it is a bike everyone totally lets the car off the hook.


Sappho_Roche

Bicyclist is inexperienced for sure, but I also feel like this is a car passing into oncoming traffic causing an accident. Bike is most certainly going the speed limit. Yeah he's passing, but if a cyclist doesn't pass through traffic and opts to hold it up he's just going to face more aggression from the cars he's slowing down. Depending on the region, cyclist is not breaking the law. California allows a vehicle to pass on the right if there is room.


SuchSerendipitous

Yeah downvote this! Why would we try to understand it from a bicyclist position if we can just hate them all. I’m leaving this sub.


hermandirkzw

Thank you. Although I agree that the smart thing here was to slow down a bit, the car also should have paid more attention.


koala_fighter90

Damn imagine possibly injuring your neck and spine off of something and then paying to fix its damages. After your own hospital bill.


meluckycharms123

If this was a motorcycle, reddit would be on their side it seems.


KissMyAsthma-99

Hope the car owner gets damages.


hermandirkzw

Why? Seems to me that the car should have yielded. Of course not smart to race along stopped traffic...


KissMyAsthma-99

Yielded to stopped traffic? Bikes are a menace.


hermandirkzw

The bicycle isn't moving traffic? I'm just saying that legally the car probably should have yielded.


KissMyAsthma-99

Outside a bike lane? No. It should be stopped behind the cars.


dirtypuerhiding

So I assume you're alright with cyclists taking the full lane in cases where there are no bike lanes?


crowmatt

Fucking idiot cyclist... I hate them the most when they bunch up and pretend they're at Tour de France...


cortado_papi

So the biker is at fault right? Because it is his fault


hermandirkzw

Why? Besides that it isn't smart to race along stopped traffic, I think the car should have yielded.


cortado_papi

The car can’t see around those cars and can’t tell if he’s allowed to go. Also bikers (at least where I live) have to go with traffic. I.e - if they’re stopped he should stop. Edit grammar and autocorrect


hermandirkzw

>The car can’t see around those cars and can’t tell if he’s allowed to go. Then he should not go or (safely) make sure he can go. This is no excuse. >Also bikers (at least where I live have the abuse with traffic if they’re stopped he should stop. Okay, don't know about that one. Sounds a bit silly, but I don't know the local rules.


I-Have-N0-Username

If he can't see around the cars he's not allowed to turn there. Simple as that. Wanting to turn and not being able to see is not a valid excuse for endangering people


mrflithydirtymcnasty

That's why you wear a helmet. Look at the dent his head put into the side of the car


sacredlunatic

Yeah, I’m going to echo others and say it’s the cyclist that is the idiot here. The driver was doing what he was supposed to do.


TeemuKai

What if the cyclist was a car in another lane? Who would be at fault then? On my side of the planet the vehicle turning/crossing a lane is always at fault.


sacredlunatic

But there is no other lane? And the cyclist saw stopped traffic and didn’t adjust what they were doing. A bicycle is a vehicle on the road, they have to follow the rules of the road.


sacredlunatic

I don’t actually know where this took place.


TeemuKai

License plates are European and here (in most countries at least) cyclists are required to use the right side of the road if there is no bike path and they are allowed to pass stopped cars on the right.


Erikmustride13

Haha! Fuck cyclists!


KissMyAsthma-99

Over take on the right? Is that a thing where you're from?


hermandirkzw

Not sure who you are asking, but I think that is allowed for cyclists in most of Europe yes.


KissMyAsthma-99

Ah. Not here, except in bike lanes.


TeemuKai

Yes.


AirSpacer

I’m a cyclist too and honestly we lack rules


syang2046

Talk about a lack of situational awareness. That was the slowest left turn car and he managed to plowed into it lol


Encrypted_Username

Cyclist just increased his brain damage.


AbsentmindedAuthor

No helmet, no back brakes—cyclist is an idiot. 😑


TeemuKai

Gotta love all the Americans - who have clearly never ridden a bicycle in their life, applying their non-existent cycling laws to a European video. First off to anyone saying "He should have used the back brake." the front brake is about 90-100% of the braking force in an emergency stop on a bike. Here the cyclist just paniced / didn't have time to shift his weight back / grabbed too much brake too quick. Second, the bike is absolutely allowed to pass the cars on the right evem if the cars are stopped. This is allowed in Europe and cyclists are required to cycle on the right side of the road if there is no bicycle path. Often there are even pockets for bikes at the front of the intersection/lights that bikes can filter to. Third, this accident is 100% the fault of the car. They turned over / crossed the oncoming lane and are always the one required to yield. If they couldn't see past the stopped cars they should not have crossed or should have done so with extreme caution.


EffectiveMinute4625

Cyclist is the idiot here. And he almost ended up head first in the car!!


chameche

If this was a motorcycle would it still be the bike's fault? He was going a tad fast but obviously the car's fault 100%. He probably should have worn a helmet tho!


qwarfujj

You mean was it the guys fault who was passing cars on the edge of the road instead of being in an actual lane? Yeah I'd say most likely.


glowglowb

he died?


onefanpornstar

No, he didn't lose his shoes. lol


XsvAdvanced

Title shoulda been “idiot biker got exactly what he deserves”


CockroachGullible652

I never understand the front brake. It’s more like an eject lever.


Electrical_Office479

If your going up hill the back break is the eject lever


RubberNipples7890

Could’ve stopped in time if he had a rear brake


buckstrawhorn

There is something very satisfying about this


Dolichovespula-

Cyclists fault… its always their fault


RareUnderstanding04

Idiot on a bike


lauryn_17

Thank god his head didn’t get run over, holy fuck


Gru_the_Goat23

What a moron


Classroom_Strict

Nobody going to ask about the song? I will then. What's the song?


LandCity

Banging beats. Definitely bounce your head to that.


jemmi42

Lol


Azdak66

I don’t care what universe you’re from—that’s gotta hurt!


hifihentaiguy

Now entering; CHAAAAIIIN BLAAADE!!!


TheHypoEpiologist

I think he’s going to have to go to the Dent-ist


MJRusty

Imagine that, a cyclist not paying attention.


baksshield9

He marked his head on that door lol


UnusualCartographer2

Anyone know the name of the song?


Strength-InThe-Loins

That's why I only use shitty, degraded brake pads with less stopping power.


rinigneel

Wasn't even wearing a helmet and left that dent? Rip his face


Royal_Okra1058

Come one, access the situation, if every car you can see is stopped you should probs slow down r/facepalm


mikexxhoncho

*you died*


lukeh6227

Idiot on a bike.


SwollenOstrich

if you're going to forego the helmet at least take the impact with your body and not your head lol


uncle_diaper_1478

The cyclist mustve listened to your music and say


uncle_diaper_1478

Among us


Kennetta

It is my understanding that cyclists need to follow the same rules as cars. The cyclists should not have been zipping by. He should have stopped just like the cars. The way I see it is the cyclists is in the wrong.