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Idiot cop flips pregnant woman's car for pulling over too slowly.

Idiot cop flips pregnant woman's car for pulling over too slowly.

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baseball_guy

“Why didn’t you pull over?”. Said to the pregnant woman trying to escape an upside-down car.


dafazman

Her reply was it wasn't safe Also told the cop didn't you see the hazard lights 🤷🏽‍♂️


baseball_guy

Well, just commenting on the callous authoritarian disregard for her wellbeing by interrogating her before she’s even managed to escape the vehicle. Imagine her unbuckling her seat belt in order to fall to the ceiling, crawling on hands and knees across the roof of the smoking car to get to the door... the officer arrives, and starts pestering her before she’s even out.


dafazman

yes, it is very evident that this was not a whooppss error. It was intentional. The question is, who made the error: 1) Cop uses his own judgement to decide to do a pit? 2) Someone back at the office gave the orders to the cop to proceed with a pit? Its obvious that the pit was not required or needed in this short video.


AlexKewl

Wow. I don't know how long this went on, or what transpired to this point, but it looks like she was going about the speed limit, had flashers on, and wasn't causing any danger to anyone. He probably could have waited for backup. Seems to be a case of "how dare you not immediately respect my authority!"


RadSpaceWizard

Yeah, it seemed like a power trip.


Blablablubbl

2 minutes says the lawsuit against the police after examining the dashcam video. Also no way to safely stop in her opinion, which Arkansas law supports.


AlexKewl

She also had her flashers on, which indicates that she intends to pull over in a safe spot. That, along with her low speed and no evasive maneuvers make it pretty obvious that she is not any type of threat or a danger to anyone.


laurenslickr

Cops are assholes. There are some exceptions, but not many.


Forgetful_Suzy

The funny thing about this, I was watching it last night and checked their Facebook account and the first picture is the dept telling people to watch out for cop cars that are pulled over as it’s a picture of a smashed police car. Edit. I thought of screen shotting but didn’t. Oh well


Bunch_of_Nerds

They deleted that post. A bunch of comments on their FB are calling them out for deleting it.


Timmyty

Wow that's the scummiest behavior. I hope whoever was in control of that decision gets I even more trouble.


sqeaky_fartz

They won’t. I guarantee they say it was justified.


hoodyninja

I remember a while back there was a position or ruling that basically said that if a government official or entity uses a social media platform as an official communication outlet (aka is “verified” by the platform) then whatever they post is an official government record subject to scrutiny and inspection. As such deleting a tweet or deleting a FB post is destruction of an official government record and is (in most states) illegal. But given how the US is….no one will ever be prosecuted for it. Such bullshit. Especially since they took it down because they knew it would open them up to legal liability.


Least_Adhesiveness_5

They have to keep it per retention policy, but don't have to keep it openly on the web. Send in whatever the local FOIA request is called.


freethefoolish

what department is this?


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fuyuhiko413

Also "They rolled over" as if that just happened magically on it's own. No douchebag, YOU rolled them over


unsungtoaster85

It’s the same language my children use when they break something. “It” broke, instead of “I broke it.”


Fuckingfademefam

“My teacher gave me an F” vs “I got an A” lol


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0replace4displace

Listen to the cop, even when you can't or even when they do not communicate, or the cop will make you regret it. Read their minds or die.


economy_of_respect

Yeah, one time my dad got yelled at by a cop for “pulling over too quickly” on the highway. You really can’t win.


Hiranonymous

I'm disturbed by how casually he seems to respond. In an emergency, it's important to keep calm, but after flipping someone's car, I'd be jumping out of my car and running over, especially on seeing the air bags deployed and smoke pouring out from the hood. And my first response to my victim would not be, "Can you come out? Come on out!"


crazypitches

He even seems irritated that she’s not coming out faster. “Come on out now!” “I’m TRYING!” Like dude she’s in an upside down car and likely extremely traumatized


Eclectix

Not to mention a possible spinal injury that could be made much worse by moving, perhaps even killing her. They are not supposed to move until the paramedics get there and stabilize their spine. This officer's behavior is absolutely abhorrent throughout the video.


Beklorn

I was in a car accident which knocked my glasses off my face leaving me essentially blind and my neck and back hurt I straight up told the cops that I would not move until EMS cleared me after about 20 minutes they told me they were EMS and that I would be safe to move I was livid when my glasses were located and i saw no ems anywhere.


Wyoder8

He is so casual about the situation. Like, he sounds bored when he's in his car on his radio. He walks over to the car with zero urgency when there's smoke everywhere. She could have a broken neck, hell she could b dead for all he knows. Then proceeds to berate her as she's upside-down scared shitless, basically saying "this is all your fault"


RawboticPandurrrrrrr

Paid vacation incoming


LunchAtTheY

Followed by early retirement with a fat pension. Plus extra $$ to treat the cop's PTSD.


Liversteeg

Yeah, his PTSD, even though he hardly reacts at all and just condescendingly keeps telling the woman “All you had to do was stop.” The part that really made my blood boil was after she said she didn’t feel safe to pull over, he says “well look where you ended up” while she is still stuck in the car. He doesn’t give a fuck.


lucdaman4

are you fucking kidding me. I didn't know this had sound and now I want to murder someone


cansitter

Somebody has been wanting to pull a pit maneuver for a long time


hx-er

r/iamatotalpieceofshit [https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/police-officer-sued-for-flipping-pregnant-womans-car-when-she-didnt-stop-fast-enough/](https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/police-officer-sued-for-flipping-pregnant-womans-car-when-she-didnt-stop-fast-enough/) And he gets away 😡: ***"Though police reportedly plan to fight the lawsuit, the outcome is unlikely to have a personal impact on Dunn as Arkansas law means he is immune from any personal responsibility for his actions."***


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I think there needs to be a proper psych evaluations for police officers. Trigger happy people, power-tripping people, people who get stressed out too easily, people who endanger peoples' lives for taking slightly longer to pull over etc. need to get filtered out early in the hiring process.


FLTDI

My drivers ed teacher, that was a retired sheriff deputy, instructed us to do exactly what this lady was doing if you're being pulled over in an unsafe location.


azhorashore

The previous day one of this departments officers was struck while responding to a crash on an interstate. They had put up a Facebook post asking people to consider their surroundings and pull over in safe locations...


Lord_Ho-Ryu

And yet, they call it fleeing when you do. Hypocrisy at its finest.


Meatslinger

I sure hope the lady in the case cites the Facebook post when she’s in court. I would think that any judge who isn’t completely in the police department’s pocket would recognize that as official instruction, which she followed.


azhorashore

Doesn’t really matter about FB, she followed the official Arkansas policy on being pulled over, Blinker, hazards, everything. Wild guess would be since no one ever follows the rules so accurately he thought it was suspicious? While I’m sure a significant amount of people don’t know your suppose to do all that I assume given his line of work he knew what she was doing.


usernamesarehard1979

Yeah, mine too. Then one day I got pulled over on the freeway and decided to take the next off ramp. Fucker yelled at me to pull over immediately over his PA. So I did and he had to keep an eye over his shoulder the whole time to see if someone was going to nail him. I told him what I was doing, he didn't give a shit.


rokr1292

I got pulled over on a road inside my university once, and since there was no shoulder, I moved less than 200 feet to a parking area. That cop yelled and mean mugged me like I insulted his mother. Then seemed like he wanted me to thank him for not ticketing me despite the fact that he said, with his mouth, that he pulled me over for "almost" doing something. Edit: the "almost" crime I was pulled over for was that while making a left in a RWD pickup, I "almost spun the tires". I made a legal left after coming to a complete stop at a 3 way intersection, and this officer didn't like that I did it quickly. I wasnt speeding, I didnt do a burnout, the tires didnt even make a squealing noise.


MortemInferri

I got pulled over near my college, stone cold sober at 11pm. With 3 other sober people in my car. On suspicion I was drunk driving because it was 11pm on a friday. (The cop literally said that, he had no other reason) Guy turns his lights on WHILE I'M MAKING A LEFT TURN through a large intersection (4 lanes in each direction). I finished my left turn and pulled into the lot immediately on my right. Guy gets in my face saying that "it makes him nervous that I pulled into a parking lot. I could be trying to run" Makes me nervous to be stopped in the middle of the road at night, but fuck me right? Not like I was just going about my life or anything until you butted your dumbass into it.


pug_nuts

It's astounding how fucking stupid and arrogant some people can be. And yet for some reason, somehow, they hold a fuckton of power over you and can ruin your life.


MortemInferri

Yea, exactly. To top it off, he spoke like he was doing me a favor by NOT giving me a ticket. Which seems to be tradition at this point for bullshit traffic stops. I didn't do anything wrong, so no, you aren't doing me a favor. You are doing much less than that actually. I am a captive listener to your bullshit. A situation I did not elect to be a part of. If anything I DID YOU A FAVOR. I pulled into a parking lot so the ACTUAL drunk drivers (the road did have a lot of crashes) aren't going to slam into you at 45mph. I made sure my passengers were safe. Something you Mr.Cop didn't have the decency to consider.


electricheat

> I didn't do anything wrong, so no, you aren't doing me a favor. This assumes that he can only ticket you for things you did. If his dashcam was off and he said you did an unsafe turn, you're unlikely to get out of the ticket without video proof. The favour might have been not making something up.


Psych0matt

Man that sucks, the last time I was pulled over a few years ago (headlight bulb burnt out the day before), I did the same thing and he was super grateful that I didn’t just pull over to the side and block a lane (2 lanes each way, 45mph)


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Lonestar041

16 weeks. The required training in most states is 12-16 weeks. Shorter than the basic training in most militaries to become a 24/7 supervised Private. In Europe, most countries require 2-3 years of training.


Kimber85

Same thing happened to me. It was the first time I'd ever been pulled over and I'm assuming the officer thought I was drunk because I was in an unfamiliar area and started to take an exit, but then realized it was the wrong one, so I got back in my lane. This was back in the stone age before GPS, so I was totally reliant on directions given to me by a friend before I left and knew I'd be fucked if I took the wrong exit. The blue lights came on, so I put on my flashers, slowed down, and started looking for a safe place to pull over. When I didn't immediately pull over he started zooming up behind me like he was going to run me off the road and then came over on his PA to tell me to pull over. When he came to the window he started screaming at me for not immediately pulling over, and being the idiot kid that I was, I yelled right back at him that I was trying to find a safe place to pull over for *his* safety, not mine, and told him he needed to chill out. When he realized I wasn't drunk, just lost, he was really pissed, but let me leave with a warning. A warning for what, I'm still not sure, but god, I was so mad, I was shaking. As a woman, I was always told to find a safe, well lit place, to pull over. I was told this by cops! Apparently that's a crime now though.


TherealMcNutts

It's a crime in a lot of cops minds if you don't do what they say when they say it or don't do what they think you should do even though most people never interact with a cop so don't know what they are expecting. It's not against the law but they think it is. When they arrest someone for not doing what they say the go to charge is usually disorderly conduct and/or resisting arrest.


Boom9001

This comment had the buried lead. Why did the officer never tell this woman on the PA to pull over immediately. She was going slowly with hazards on.


themediumchunk

That’s what I find hilarious. Arkansas state police are claiming that “she was a danger to others because she was fleeing” while going slowly with her hazards on. Gimme a break. She did what literally every driver is expected to do and he just wanted to have some action on his shift. He’s a state trooper, therefore he thinks he’s a god of some sort.


designmur

Yeah flipping her upside down was *definitely* safer than what she was doing


NotFlameRetardant

And outside of that, also creating multi-lane hazards *on the interstate*. So happy law enforcement is there to protect and serve us!


designmur

It’s disgusting. She was clearly aware of him and was most certainly not fleeing. But he has immunity and wanted to try the fancy trick they always put on the TV show, so now she’s been traumatized over a speeding ticket.


NotFlameRetardant

Traumatized would be the least of my concerns, I'd be immediately concerned about miscarriage or extreme developmental danger at that point. But yeah, bet he felt like a really powerful man at that time. Big American cop bigshot, just like on TV indeed.


LostWoodsInTheField

I watched a review of this video and the person had the Arkansas state police policy book. She did exactly what the police book says should be done. In a lawsuit the station is going to be screwed.   Edit: on my lawsuit screwed statement that everyone is responding to. I didn't mean directly financially, but rather in fighting the suit there is little chance for them to win. This will almost definitely end with a settlement where the stations insurance policy will pay out, then the insurance company will raise rates for the next renewal costing the tax payers money. Either in cost of lost of services in other places or increase in taxes.


themediumchunk

It’s a pity they would rather become a joke and waste tax payer money fighting it in court than just pay her what she deserves.


mrpanicy

Why would they be screwed? They will settle and the tax payers money will go to the victim. That's the rub here... unless THEY feel the pain. Like the police officer themselves have to pay all or a percentage of the settlement, then nothing will change. Or better yet they are brought to justice... They are above reproach. It's exhausting watching it all happen and seeing basically NOTHING change. I know that true change takes time and society moves slowly blah blah blah... but it's just so frustrating.


Boom9001

Like if he told her to pull over on PA I see some argument that she wasn't listening and still running. But the average person would very reasonably not think they'd done anything wrong right up till the pit maneuver.


bob84900

I got reckless and failure to yield because I didn't slam on the brakes on a corner, at 2am, ON MEMORIAL DAY. Cop had a death wish, and as miserable of a person as he was, I understand. Ended up getting a ton of fines and shit but at least got it off my record. Kinda seems like it was just a racket for higher fines.


frostmartinez

It is.


jumbee85

I've been in a similar situation. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.


chimininy

Same. He told us it is safer to do this for us and for the cop, especially since the cop has to get out of the car.


gariant

Suddenly I don't care any longer. I'll park where I don't get killed for not immediately parking, and he can walk in traffic if that's his prerogative. They have loudspeakers, they can use it to tell me to move forward if they so wish.


pushing_paint_around

I was bitched at by a cop for waiting until the shoulder opened up after a small bridge and not stopping in the middle of the lane on the bridge itself. 50 yards difference at most.


os10

slam the brakes as soon as light you up. "last time, officer said stop immediately so i did"


PaleontologistOk3161

I've gotten the "I DECIDE WHATS A SAFE LOCATION. If I turn on my lights you pull over NOW"


SwimmingHurry8852

I got the same before cause I didn't pull right over on an extremely narrow and windy road. You know what? fine I'll keep them company as they die from an avoidable accident next time. Cool beans


OutlyingPlasma

Is pointing and laughing protected under good samaritan laws?


os10

yep. pull over right on the edge of the highway then. i've seen tons of videos of cops getting creamed like that from random drivers who didn't see them, usually hitting the cop car first. you want it, you got it.


mytressons

According to several articles I read, the Arkansas State Police driver's manual specifically states to do exactly what she did.


SouthernSierra

That shoulder is no place to pull over. The lady was right, that cop is an idiot and hopefully wound up doing time for that. I would never have stopped there, far to dangerous for both of them.


SwimmingHurry8852

Doing time? Like time off with pay?


moonknlght

>and hopefully wound up doing time for that. lmao


themediumchunk

It was pitch black, too! She’s considering not just her own safety, but his, too! And he repays her by flipping her car and telling her she deserved it.


THEDRIVINGPROFESSOR

Glad that wasn't my wife , I don't know what I would do.


snowpeak_throwaway

>and hopefully wound up doing time for that You know damn good and well he didnt. Chances are he got a fucking paid vacation for it.


meanjoegreen8

So don't find a safe place to pull over put the officer in as much risk as possible.


AndromedaGreen

That's seriously the lesson that was imparted by this video, which makes the fact that other cops will circle the wagons around this guy even more absurd. They support this behavior, the general public learns to pull over ASAP rather than in a safe place, and they get killed on a highway shoulder during a traffic stop.


thefadednight

After watching this video I will never wait for a safe area to pull over. If something happens to the cop I will point to this video. I am not dying trying to keep a cop safe that might attempt to kill me for it.


coinpile

Same, this video has changed my response to being pulled over. Immediate stop, left shoulder or right shoulder, doesn’t matter.


8ell0

And if the cop than want me to go to another place I’ll happily do it. But if not, they can be my meat shield from incoming traffic


Bretters17

I remember in an older thread on a different subreddit where someone asked about this same situation, eg pulling up to a safer place, and the general consensus seemed to be that if police are lighting you up, they think the area they're stopping you is safe enough for their stop, otherwise they would wait until you're closer to an exit. Essentially the responsibility for safety is on them, and this most recent example further solidifies that. That doesn't address whether or not you should pull over if you don't think it's a safe place for yourself though...


seperivic

This honestly is the takeaway here. Anything else seems to be just rolling the dice with a police officer’s sensibilities when their practices aren’t standardized.


unnecessary_kindness

They don't value your life so why should you value theirs?


fyshi

Had such a moment once, too. Cop car behind me, I just feel they gonna pull me over. But they don't, I'm confused. Okay whatever, now we are waiting at a red light, still nothing. Turn onto a bridge, they activate their shit to pull me over. On a bridge, with cars all around us. Okay, I stop, in the left lane. After all, I was in the left lane to begin with, had trucks to the right, and most importantly, driver side is on the left and I didn't want them to stand in the street. They come up and gripe about why I stopped in the left lane, should have stopped in the right. lol wtf. Doesn't even make a difference traffic-wise, as one lane is closed anyways. Most cops aren't the smartest in the shed. They could have pulled me over before the bridge, or after, but no. they wanted to have it that way. I'm not gonna argue or stress myself trying to get to a safe place. Lights come on, I park right there, simple. Also, cops need to have the last word, every time, no matter how much in the wrong they are. And they think they are the law and don't believe most basic stuff, like when I just know I'm allowed to do something because I researched it just some days before, things they should know better because they have to do with them all the time


II-l

They don't need to know the laws to enforce them as made clear in the supreme court years ago. They're not there to protect you or serve you just enforce laws and generate revenue. Period


NotFlameRetardant

For the public: "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" For the cop class: "Ah yeah just enforce the laws as you best see fit to the best of your understanding"


Valkie

"A woman has filed a lawsuit against Arkansas State Police after an officer who was attempting to get her to pull over caused her to flip her car while she was pregnant. The incident took place last June, when Arkansas resident Nicole Harper was driving near Jacksonville and noticed police officer Rodney Dunn signalling for her to pull over, prompting Harper to take the necessary actions to do so. In accordance with the Arkansas Driver License Study Guide, Harper, who was pregnant at the time, slowed down and put on her hazard lights, seemingly looking for a safe place to stop."


617curveby

This is from the Arkansas Police Facebook, from June 5th "IF you see blue lights behind you, and you feel scared that it is not a real police officer OR you would like to drive to a safe or lighted location: first SLOW DOWN, and turn on your hazard lights - this will let the officer know you see them. Move to the farthest right lane, and continue to drive to a location where you feel safe (ex. under a street light, a gas station, an exit ramp, or side road). If you do not believe that the vehicle behind you is a real police officer, immediately call 911. You will NOT BE charged with fleeing if you are doing these things. You have the right to be safe!!!" Their state laws, from I can find with 5 mins of digging is "If a person knows that his or her immediate arrest or detention is being attempted by a duly authorized law enforcement officer, it is the lawful duty of the person to refrain from fleeing, either on foot or by means of any vehicle or conveyance." So it doesn't outline what fleeing actually is defined as but the official Facebook says what the woman did here was perfect fine. Regardless if if she was fleeing or not(she wasn't), the use of a pit maneuver was completely wrong and not SOP. She wasn't fleeing the officer, and in fact did exactly what she was supposed to do. You can't just pull out a pit maneuver whenever you want, there's procedures for it, including when it should be used. This police officer did not follow procedure and should be fired for endangering a person with a vehicle, abusing their equipment, and overall a failure to asses a situation with the standard of service and protection that all policemen should meet.


Hephaestus_God

They don’t even use a pit maneuver unless it’s a last resort. Idk why his first thought was doing it. Edit: Stop replying the same thing.. it was a rhetorical thought.


Brogero

“I bet this will be pretty fucking sweet, been waiting ages to pit a car”


Joe_Doblow

His thought was probably like “finally some action, this is going to be fun. They’re going to think twice about not 100% obeying my authority next time”


UNEXPECTED_ASSHOLE

Because he's a violent psychopath who likes to hurt things.


Amused-Observer

I hope her attorney uses their own words on FB against them.


617curveby

For real. I was digging around to see what Arkansas state laws were on fleeing and found the Facebook post....and I literally laughed out loud cuz it's almost like they just wrote down exactly what the woman did in the vid.....fucking crazy.


kushmster_420

I really hope her laywer is smart/lucky enough to find exactly what you found, I can see it being easily overlooked as you wouldn't expect such a perfectly relevant statement to be on facebook. I may look into finding her lawyers info to email this to him/her if I remember after work, if anyone less lazy than I wants to do the same then I think it'd be worthwhile


Huckleberry_Sin

Straight up. How the hell would one find her lawyer bc id love to share this with them


Crimsonera

I was once being pulled over in CA on a long exit ramp with no shoulder. I did just like this lady did and even put my hand out the window to try to signal the cop where I was going to pull over up ahead. After I pulled over and he walked up, he immediately starts yelling at me asking why I didn't pull over immediately. I told him it was too dangerous to pull over on the off ramp since there was no shoulder and it was safer to just go forward and pull over in safe area for both him and me. He actually looked surprised/confused but took my info and ran it. After it all came back clean he gave me back my paperwork and then gave me a long lecture about why I need to pull over right away or else they would thing I was up to no good.


Pyrodeity42

The next person he pull over is going to slam the brakes, getting rear ended, then he'll go on and rant about stopping safely. There is no pleasing these kind of people.


ThrowAway233223

>There is no pleasing these kind of people. Which is funny (in a sad, ironic sense) because there are too many of them that make this exact same comment when certain population want officers to stop unjustly killing/brutalizing them.


Anrikay

Yep. I was pulled over and immediately stopped (butt of my car was still out in the intersection). Police directed me over PA to pull into the parking lot 100' away. Then praised me for stopping right away when they came up to the window. Nevermind that it meant that we all initially stopped in an intersection, perpendicular to four lanes of traffic, blocking three of the four directions you could travel, and risking getting t-boned. I later saw someone doing what I was told to do at the same intersection, except of their own volition. Cops went absolutely wild when he pulled into the parking lot, screaming over the speaker to get out of the vehicle and lay down on the ground. Last I saw, he was still in cuffs and sat on the curb 30min later. My hometown has a lot of assholes on a power trip in the police department.


chcor70

i got pulled over on the way up to Ithaca ny by ny state trooper i put my hazards on and found a safe pulloff maybe 4 or 5 min down the road for both cars and pulled up and shut my car off. the cop was very thankful i didnt stop on one of those curves then told me to put my car back on and the AC, he went back and just gave me a warning and thanked me for being conscientious about pulling over. its really who you get this video is insane because i wouldnt be comfortable pulling into that breakdown lane at night and im not even pregnant


MrsZero07

[Police officer sued for flipping pregnant woman’s car when she didn’t stop fast enough](https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/police-officer-sued-for-flipping-pregnant-womans-car-when-she-didnt-stop-fast-enough/)


sundstrom193

“Police reportedly claim Harper was attempting to ‘flee’ the officer and that she was a danger to other drivers.” How can they get behind their officer when this video shows a complete lack of patience? It was obvious she was trying to stop and he just got impatient


MrsZero07

There’s literally no excuse to PIT a vehicle that is not being reckless. She was driving reasonably and was clearly waiting to not be positioned between that barrier and the roadway.


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Kiruna235

The stupid thing about it is that that PIT maneuver put others in danger a heck of a lot more than her driving 40 mph near the shoulder toward that exit. Causing her to lose control and side swipe all across so many lanes? What if she had hit other cars? What if the impact of her hitting the middle barrier was enough to cause her car to flip onto incoming traffic? The stupidity of it all. Makes me sick with rage.


OdinTheHugger

Agreed. What fucking right did he have to endanger her life? To endanger the lives of others? His impatience is no excuse for reckless endangerment of human life like that.


G8kpr

Not to mention her mental trauma from being in a car accident that flipped. Her stress over the situation amplified by her worrying about her pregnancy. Also now one more citizen that no longer trusts police. Way to make inroads into the community. To serve and protect? Or to harass and put in danger.


rjp0008

One more citizen? Try hundreds, we’re all here watching this fuckhead on video after all.


Gagolih_Pariah

I read the article. They say he is not responsible for his actions and say he will be able to walk scott-free to do that same shit to other people. Maybe he kills children or the elderly next time and he says: "Its not my fault, its the drivers fault for not pulling up more quickly." That fucktard needs to be jailed.


DonRicardo1958

Yes, she was fleeing the scene at 30 mph.


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JohnThicc1234

Cop: “Idk man, looks like reckless driving and an attempt to flee to me… better flip this bitch over”


Ioatanaut

Cop: "ooo she's making me angry, better attempt to murder her bc my emotions are valid and the boys will back me up!"


PenisMightier500

If anything, she was looking out for him. He would have been standing in traffic if she pulled over on a road without a shoulder.


BlakePackers413

At night. It’s literally a tow truck or mechanics worst nightmare to be on a small shoulder at night no light.


dirkdigdig

Fuck, I’m afraid breaking down on a shoulder during the day. This cop is PIT happy, and was dying to use the technique.


Dr_Meetii

She wasn't a danger to anyone else on the road until this guy PIT maneuvered her causing her to swerve across all three lanes of traffic.


kinyutaka

Worse, she was doing everything right. She turned on her hazard lights to indicate that she intended to stop, did not accelerate or drive evasively. The only thing else she could have done is stopped on a busy highway, at night, where both the cop and she would be in danger of getting hit by passing drivers. Which happens all too often.


mnelso1989

I got pulled over on a interstate for speeding and I literally kept going until I could pull off on a side road. I've seen far too many videos of pulled over cars getting crushed by inattentive drivers veering over. Lucky for me the cop actually started that he appreciated it and let me off with a warning.


Mortenuit

Similar story for me, about 15 years ago. On the interstate, right after an exit a cop put his lights on for me. I drove maybe a third to half a half mile to get past the upcoming entrance ramp on our right so that we wouldn't have to worry about cars on both sides once the stop was over. He initially questioned why I took so long to stop, but I got off with a warning so he seemed to appreciate or at least accept the answer. Thinking about how that well-intentioned behavior could have resulted in me getting my car flipped, and how an officer could have considered that justifiable, is absurd and infuriating.


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Takeoffdpantsnjaket

Ironically, the Arkansas State Police FB page just removed a recent post informing that an officer was struck by a car, urging drivers to pull over properly and such. What a bunch of dickheads.


Isntthere

Someone should make sure her lawyers saw that


Arzalis

They should 100% get the records of that *and* the deletion. The coverup here is kind of an obvious admission she wasn't doing anything wrong.


WhichWitchIsWhitch

It's also what the driver's manual for the state says to do


nova_dose

> How can they get behind their officer Because they will *always* back the blue. Always. Toddler flashbanged? Side with the officer. Unarmed granny shot and killed? Side with the officer. Cop found to posesses child porn, beat his wife, and abuse his kids? Side with the officer. There is no moral bedrock with these people, no amount of evil that can be done that will make them not side with their own. Actually, I take that back. If you are a cop and you report a dirty cop, you will find out how quickly they will turn on you.


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M2704

The only danger to other drivers is this idiot cop.


vainbuthonest

She’s “fleeing” really damn slow.


botDani

The article ends with: "Though police reportedly plan to fight the lawsuit, the outcome is unlikely to have a personal impact on Dunn as Arkansas law means he is immune from any personal responsibility for his actions" This is for real? Or I don't get it?


Minorous

It's called Qualified Immunity, look it up, it is definitely for real.


pug_nuts

Which is pretty bullshit because this is **clearly** outside of the realm of normal and approved response behaviour. That cop should be charged with attempted manslaughter. edit: for everyone mad about the term I chose to use, [here you go](https://www.rpfoley.com/attempted-voluntary-manslaughter-florida-statute-782-07-and-777.html). Fight over it yourselves.


piecat

What happens if there is a miscarriage because of this? Would cop get charged with the murder? Isn't Arkansas pro-life / anti-choice?


StyreneAddict1965

Oh fuck me, that would be brilliant! They wrote the law because they believed women were throwing themselves down the stairs to have miscarriages, or going to get abortions. Then this dick head shows up, attempts to kill her with a car, and threatens the life of the baby! What fun could be had in court by the right attorney!


Rouxs05

What would happen is that the woman will have a miscarriage be thrown in front of the judge for having to prove it was an actual miscarriage rather than abortion.


NorthKoreanEscapee

And then she can deal with being harassed by the cops for the rest of her life


Snarkycakes

Not gonna live in fear of that. Call them out every time.


Darg727

It is and we taxpayers pay billions every year because of it and we can't get the garbage off the street because it is legal for law enforcement to not perform their duty and strike. So basically they can hold government and people at figurative gun point to get what they want and the police union is not shy about abusing it.


Kiruna235

"Though police reportedly plan to fight the lawsuit, the outcome is unlikely to have a personal impact on Dunn as Arkansas law means he is immune from any personal responsibility for his actions." Barf. And this is why reckless, irresponsible cops continue to be reckless and irresponsible." Because I can, and none of you puny second class lowlifes can stop me."


SpaceCowboy861

> Though police reportedly plan to fight the lawsuit, the outcome is unlikely to have a personal impact on Dunn as Arkansas law means he is immune from any personal responsibility for his actions. Fuck. This.


ThaVerySadTruth

Rodney Dunn seems to be a grade A dumbass


esquegee

Rodney dunn fucked up big time


martymoran

rodney dunn goofed


dhskiskdferh

Dunnass


PaleozoicFrogBoy

Pregnant or not I can’t think of a single reason why this officer would need to flip this car. The fact that the victim was pregnant just makes this that much more deplorable. Edit: those of you saying “there’s no way he meant to flip that car”, maybe, but an incomplete PIT against an SUV at 75-85 mph is not going to be clean. He either knew the risk and accepted the consequences on behalf of the victim (ass hole) or was not properly trained and was unaware of just how risky this decision was (idiot). Pick your conclusion, either way this man shouldn’t be on the road.


Dr-Surge

Imagine if the baby was born and in a car seat for this ride?


Thaaaaaaa

Probably would have charged mom with endangering the child. Officer gets a medal for rescuing the baby.


SupaflyIRL

You joke but a woman who was out driving with her child got caught up near a protest, cops ripped her out of her car, beat the shit out of her, arrested her, took the child, gave it to the hottest female officer on scene, TOOK PHOTOS, POSTED TO SOCIAL MEDIA THAT THEY SAVED A CHILD FROM A NEGLECTFUL MOTHER. Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/30/philadelphia-fop-posts-toddler/


PeteEckhart

It’s sad that I have to say this, but she’s so lucky someone caught that on film. Who knows what bullshit charges they would’ve filed against her if there wasn’t video proof of what happened. Those assholes just wanted to fuck someone up, and they didn’t care who it was or whether or not they did anything wrong to “justify” it. Sickening.


green_kerbal

Goddamn.


Fortherealtalk

I remember this. Thank god a neighbor caught footage of what happened


lallapalalable

Isn't it cool how we have to take steps to protect ourselves and each other from the police?


Thaaaaaaa

Jesus fuck dude


DontRedFlagMeBro

This is a dude that just really wanted to try a PIT and would accept any reason to do so.


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I bet he was so excited being all like "ah shiiiit I bet I got me my first real criminal, prolly gonna find me my real gang bangin criminal. I bet there's at least a gram of the devils weed in there. That's minimum here of like 80 years here in Arkansas." "Ah fuck, it's a pregnant woman. I sure he hope she's trafficking something cuz I am in deep shit now"


BinaryTriggered

> deep shit hahaha if you think this power tripping asshole is in even a thin line of shit, you're delusional. he'll get off with nary a reprimand


Lord_Ho-Ryu

Which is why it’s everyone else that should be worried.


Ajax957

He pulled a pit maneuver with no back up, without clearing the highway to make sure other cars would not be in the crash, and to a car that was not speeding away. I am legit terrified of idiot cops.


dzlux

Aside from The pit maneuver being a terrible choice for low risk chases, he also executed the maneuver terribly. He seemed to hit the brakes right after contact rather than driving through... preventing the half spin the maneuver is supposed to achieve. Everything is bad about this video and it will likely be an easy lawsuit for the woman. A small consolation for her life being unnecessarily risked.


Bosco215

And the way he casually walks up to the vehicle after makes me think he was hoping for a fatality.


RontoWraps

At the very least, it meant he didn't give a shit whether the person inside was dead or alive.


damnkidzgetoffmylawn

And then still argues with her and attempts to justify his shitty ass actions. I'm legit terrified of these jackals.


LicencetoKrill

'I'm gonna take care of you...' asshole could have done better by quitting the force.


matteothehun

I predict that she will win her lawsuit, tax payers will pay the cost, and Rodney Dunn will suffer no consequences for his actions.


Im1Guy

"Though police reportedly plan to fight the lawsuit, the outcome is unlikely to have a personal impact on Dunn as Arkansas law means he is immune from any personal responsibility for his actions."


wubberer

What. The. Fuck.


kestrel808

Police in every state have qualified immunity by and large.


wet_beefy_fartz

Bingo.


bradmanman

Pull over right away or we'll fucking kill you! She wasn't running after committing a mass shooting at a preschool, she was speeding. This guy is a psycho.


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mnbvcxz123

"Uh, ma'am, I stopped you because your registration tags have expired..."


TehWhale

She was going slightly over the speed limit, that was it.


alwaysgettingstabbed

Instead of waiting another likely 10-15 seconds for her to find a place to stop, he just.....\*sigh\* He just totals her vehicle? Let me get this straight: Her car is totaled, and for all we know it may be her only vehicle, there's a chance. She has to pay for an ambulance ride. Likely since she's pregnant, and hoping there's no injuries sustained in the crashed, she still may have to visit an OBGYN just in case, adding another cost. And on top of all that, very doubtful her insurance or the county/state will cover the damage to her vehicle, so now she has to try find another car out of pocket, after footing the bill for all those medical expenses. And this unbelievable jackass gets to walk away, because....let me review the video here..."you should have pulled over when you saw my lights." This is America.


Teacup-Koala

His power trip has financially ruined her for years to come


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Her sole saving grace is that his dash cam caught the whole thing and went viral. Power tripping cops ruin people's financial stability fucking daily in the US and most victims aren't lucky enough to get their story out.


NotsoNewtoGermany

And they refused to release it. It’s being released now as part of discovery.


Helene_Scott

Oh shit, really? Wow. I guess it makes sense, but this whole thing is just messed up. I hope that the woman and her baby and family are doing ok.


swarmy1

Which is probably why she is suing.


OgOgOgOgOgOgOgOgOg

"This is where you end up."


laiod

I almost can’t believe he said that.


HumanEffigy_

“Protect and Swerve.”


kaffeian

Hope he is fired. She was legally fine. Had her hazards on to indicate she was knew he was there. You can do that to get off the interstate to a safe area before stopping.


heffapig

Can you imagine potentially killing someone because they didn’t pull over fast enough? Jesus Christ.


Undercoverexmo

Wow I can’t believe what this Senator had to say in response. What an absolute asshole. “End of the day when somebody is fleeing I will never question the method police officer uses to stop them,” said Sen. Bart Hester (R-Cave Springs). “I don’t care if it’s 60 miles an hour, I don’t care if its 100 miles an hour, I want them stopped as soon as possible.” https://www.fox16.com/news/investigates/fox-16-investigates-woman-files-lawsuit-hoping-for-policy-change-surrounding-pit-maneuvers/


CainKilledAbleton

Good job. Now people will stop in the middle of the highway. Senator is a secret genius who's going to tackle police brutality


Vertisce

She is going to win this lawsuit. She did exactly what the law and drivers ed training says she should do. The cop is obviously in the wrong. This is part of what police reform is about. People like this guy have no business being cops because they don't have the intelligence to make decisions regarding the safety of others.


eightiesladies

Maybe the woman should sue him next for publicly saying that she was fleeing the police, when she was doing no such thing.


NukEvil

Now everyone knows who NOT to vote for in the next election. But they'll vote him in anyways.


CrackRockUnsteady

This makes me furious. The way he just blatantly victim blamed her, lecturing her about how she should’ve pulled over, why didn’t she pull over, YOU ARE TALKING TO A GROWN ASS ADULT WHO HAS A DRIVERS LICENSE. WE KNOW HOW TO PULL OVER. He’s obviously trying to convince himself and her that his PIT maneuver was justified. Just a sociopathic and absurdly dangerous thing to do when there is obviously no pursuit and no crime has been committed. “Why did you force me to flip your car” this pig needs to go to prison for reckless endangerment. Sadly he’s probably still on the force. Hopefully she gets a big enough settlement to put the kid through college.


A_Two_Slot_Toaster

Not only that, but he also starts his absolute bullshit by questioning why she didn't pull over WHILE SHE WAS STILL UPSIDE DOWN IN HER FUCKING VEHICLE! Don't check to see if she's ok, don't help her in any way, just continue your fucking bullshit while she's still trying to understand what just put her in probably the worst vehicle accident she's ever been in. It's almost comical that this officer just flips her car so casually and quickly, as if that's just what he does every time he's in this situation, like he has a record of casually flipping cars to issue tickets. This officer's head is so far up his own ass that he has to breath out of his mouth in order to see!


melvin0chang

Wow don't rush to help them or anything


Frankiegaff

This is why I always try to pull over in inconvenient places for the cop. Fuck it, stand In the road and ticket me while traffic is going 80mph an inch away from you idc


Fremue

Don’t they have these speaker things? He could’ve just said that she should pull over right now. She was obviously not sure if she can already pull over or drive until there is more space…


SpelunkyJunky

Clearly slowed down and put hazards on to let the moron cop know she was looking for a safe place to pull over. Throw him in prison and vet then train your bloody cops!


spyckotic

If you had a flat tire and pulled over in this area.. a cop would stop and tell you that you need to move because it's not safe in that small amount of space to be sitting there.. guarantee it.