[IWantOut] 25M English/Music Teacher USA -> Bangkok, Thailand
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I have taught in Bangkok for 5+ years and I would stay far away from agencies. There are very few agencies that are good in Thailand. You might want to join the facebook group Teaching Jobs in Thailand and ask your questions there as well. You should be supplied with all the paperwork to apply for a Non-Immigrant B visa from the Thai Consulate or Thai Embassy in the USA. Your work permit gets processed once you are in country.
The second semester of the Thai school year starts November 1st and the fact that they expect you to come over that fast is a red flag. Red flag number two is the ambiguous and contradictory information in the contract. Red flag number three is the lack of communication, they expect you to fly over in two weeks, but have not kept in contact is weird. While things tend to move a little slower here, your treatment is not normal.
Also keep in mind the expenses you will have to incur:
$1000+ for the plane ticket
$X for the visa
$X for the insurance
$X for the quarantine
$X security deposit for the apartment
My advice is to wait until March-April as that is the hiring season for teachers. Thailand is very much a boots on the ground type of job search for teachers. Also, there will be more jobs available at that time.
Edit: You should not accept a job paying you less than 40-45K Baht a month.
Unfortunately, March-April is not an option for me. I quit my job back in March to pursue leaving the country full time. I’ve already sold the vast majority of my belongings and have been couch surfing for 3 months.
I need to find a permanent solution. Like yesterday.
I have money. Those expenses are doable and I’ve set aside plenty for fees of those sorts, but thank you for the reminder.
I am in that Facebook group. Between Ajarn, Dave’s esl, and many different Facebook groups, I have applied for so so so many jobs.
I know that 40k number is like apparently the law or something for Americans. But I’ve also been told that that law is widely not followed. Like the 4 to 1 law. I have a friend teaching for 35 and he says it’s enough to get by on.
I think my best course of action is to nail my interview tomorrow night and pray something comes my way that isn’t sketch as all hell.
What’s your opinion about maybe me getting my tourist visa then finding a job once I’m there ?
That is definitely a option. You can switch a tourist visa to a Non-Imm B in country as long as the school has their all their paperwork together. I think you will have better success being here searching for a job. You can always change schools in March/April if things don't work out. Teaching jobs are exempt from the labor law requiring foreigners to earn over 50K Baht a month.
If I do decide to dump this agency (which after posting this in a bunch of forums I’m leaning towards) I’m hoping that a bunch of the COE restrictions are eased after 11/1. But who knows.
One of my main reasons for leaving the USA is because of the trash health care insurance policies. So to have to get a years worth of travel insurance then also get insurance through my school is of great annoyance to me. But I’ve also heard that that stipulation isn’t going anywhere any time soon.
Thank you for your response. Please pray for me lol.
You can get intl health insurance that covers Covid for $40-50 a month, it's not like the US.
I agree that getting an apartment is best to do after you arrive, book a hotel for a few days and visit apartments in person before you get one, it is a total renters market in Bangkok with many rooms empty due to the pandemic. How do you even know that it is your dream apartment if you have not seen it.
You worry too much about the exact date, 1st of November does not mean exactly 1st of November like it would in Western countries but more like whenever you can make it.
The screenshot conversation sounds like what you will typically get in Thailand. This does not mean that the agency is not scammy, they might well be, but at least this is about what you can expect here. Things move slower here, less formally, less reliably, but somehow things usually also work out in the end.
Assuming that a Thai apartment is currently in the condition that it looks like on the images on the Internet is another cultural misunderstanding.
Yes... I tried to convince an internet friend of mine to go check out the apartment for me but he declined. I know it’s too good to be true. My only stipulations are that I live 6 miles or less from my job so I can bicycle to it, it has a gym, and is fully furnished.
I shouldn’t get my hopes up with good views or nice pools. My standards are pretty low, but when I see flashy picture I suppose I get excited. I need to keep that in check.
I hope you’re right about the nov 1st date. We will have to see.
6 miles is 5137.28 Obamas. You're welcome.