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DrapeSack

I hate how ecobee renders make it look like the backlit screen isn’t there. All of my ecobees have the very obvious rectangle screen completely opposite from this seamless image


bee144

They act like they use OLED when they use low grade VA lcd screens


AdElectrical7487

Yes! I couldn’t put my finger on it


MothraFuqua

For real, hope this one is different but I doubt it. It’s almost a dealbreaker for me, might just get a Nest and homebridge it into homekit.


geoken

Isn’t the nest the exact same thing? I didn’t think it was oled.


shutter3218

Nest has a circular cutout. There is still light bleed on the lcd, but the circular shape makes it blend better.


Fidget08

God forbid they spend a few extra bucks on an OLED.


XadRav

OLED would have burn in issues, especially since it’s the same exact image all day every day. But they could at least use better quality LCD panels that have WAY better native contrast. What they use now are truly bargain basement panels.


Lessthanzerofucks

All of the Apple watches I’ve ever had with always-on OLED LTPO displays would disagree. It’s not a problem if it’s done right. These things literally show the same screen for 95% of their day.


ScoobyDoo27

Do people leave their screens on 24/7? I have mine set to only turn on if I walk by or touch the screen. It would drive me nuts to have the screen lit up all night in the hallway. OLED would work perfect if they just made a screen timeout on it.


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ketsugi

This is the /r/HomeKit subreddit; how many of us actually interact with the Ecobee unit instead of changing settings via Siri/HomeKit or even the Ecobee app?


NikeSwish

Apple Watch has no problem showing me the time and same complications all day


GEOTUStheGreat

There are software tweaks that can address this. Eg shift the image slightly every few seconds, enough to prevent burn in but not enough to be noticed by the user


XadRav

I'm sure that works well on TVs and monitors, but on a mostly black and white screen that's pretty much going to be displaying "72" for years on end, even with pixel shift the burn in will probably be noticeable after a couple years.


macklemoer

What about 1hz refresh like on the Apple Watch?


_Coffeebot

IIRC that’s about power savings on not refreshing the screen. Burn in can still happen


Svobpata

It’s not necessarily about the controller/panel refresh, it’s about the LED itself staying on for different amounts of time than the rest, thus aging unevenly and leaving a ghost image behind


qvtruong

Shifting image may work on ecobee because the icons and numbers are thin… But shifting the images by a few pixels won’t prevent burn-in on TV, because some pixels will still show the same color (e.g of the logo, persons, etc). For example, think about the CNN logo; if we shift the logo by a few pixel, the majority of the pixels are still showing red/white just like before shifting, so they still show the same color and that causes burn-in


davidjschloss

I could not care at all about the quality of the screen. I glance over sometimes to see the temperature, but all my settings are controlled by HomeKit and I have the Ecobee widget on my phone. Usually I'd have to walk out of my way to see my thermostat. It's not like any thermostat I've ever had had a better screen.


TopWoodpecker7267

>I hate how ecobee renders make it look like the backlit screen isn’t there. All of my ecobees have the very obvious rectangle screen completely opposite from this seamless image Wow I thought I was the only one! I still love it, but that really irked me. The industrial design on the nest is just so much better, I hate that google bought them.


TheSurfShack

Confirmed: No OLED [“4 in. full-color LCD touchscreen”](https://www.ecobee.com/en-us/smart-thermostats/smart-thermostat-premium/)


sneezeburgular

It appears there’s an “Enhanced” version to replace the Lite and a “Premium” version to replace the flagship. The latter is believed to include a air quality sensor.


cerebud

I like how it looks from the front, but that’s it. Does this still look like cheap plastic crap from the side?


pacoii

I think that is very much a matter of opinion and perspective. I don’t consider my 3 lite cheap looking at all. Especially as compared to what it replaced.


cerebud

I prefer the solid look and feel of a Nest, but I hate their ecosystem.


pacoii

You may be in luck! https://www.macrumors.com/2022/05/16/ecobee-smart-thermostat-premium/


cerebud

Oh good! Well, I’ll check it out, but I’m still waiting to see what happens with Matter.


jocamero

Totally agree. If you haven't added your Nest into HomeKit via homebridge, I highly recommend it.


bbllaakkee

Works and looks great!


LukeW0rm

Gonna set up homebridge as soon as I can get my hands on a Pi. So never? I may have to dismantle my octoprint setup : /


lancepioch

I run octoprint and homebridge both on a rpi3b via docker.


LukeW0rm

I’ll have to Google what that means, but thanks for the idea!


jamoche_2

Starling works great if all you need is Nest support https://www.starlinghome.io/


cerebud

I did on my old house. With my new house, I’m going to wait for what comes out with Matter support.


deepin125

Just use homebridge with the Nest thermostat. Best of both worlds.


7577406272

And if homebridge is too much effort/hassle, Starling Home Hub is totally worth it.


Streelydan

So pumped for this! Moving into a new house in the next month and I've been planning out my homekit system. In my old place I used a Nest with Homebridge but I excited to have native homekit support...This also looks much more premium than the current (past) ecobee units.


Acid-Rainfall

Do you have a list of the products you plan to get? We are are doing an extension and complete renovation to our house which will be complete in November so would be interested to see what you have on your list :)


diamondintherimond

Going through this right now. - Ecobee - figure out if/how to integrate with existing alarm system - smart blinds (Serena is so expensive, IKEA might be the way to go, but curious about longevity) - smart bulbs where they make sense - smart light switches - fireplace (possibly using that new relay that was just posted here a few days ago) - robot vacuum (need to see which ones integrate with HomeKit via homebridge) - doorbell, but this seems like a lost cause - maybe an outdoor camera or two I think that’s it for now.


pres02

Ecobee already has native HomeKit support.


dchoward1977

Let’s have that new UI on the existing models already, ecobee. No need to wait for these models to launch.


pacoii

Slight tangent but leveraging the topic of new hardware, if my 3 lite works correctly, is it safe to assume that I could upgrade to a newer model without too much fuss?


marcrhodes

It would sure be nice if new models would just snap onto the old wiring plate.


pacoii

I think it was a real ‘miss’ by ecobee to not have a common base plate. It would make upgrading so much easier.


diekthx-

Eh but the most time consuming part is turning the breaker off.


noahjk

That's why we just save time by skipping that part :)


SpinCharm

The macrumors features list seems fairly short vs existing models. It has a different exterior and does air quality monitoring. That’s the only changes. And their non-premium “enhanced” model being released at the same time has the same exterior as existing models and doesn’t include air quality monitoring. I think they’ve run out of innovations and are launching “new” products in the same way that the Mars Bar company launches “new” Mars bars.


TheBigSm0ke

Why is it so big. It doesn’t need to be a tablet on the wall


Firehed

Looks about the same size of the current ones, if the plant is anything to go by. Do you think those are too big as well? I personally find them just fine, especially factoring in it being a touchscreen.


MotoMD

Nest looks so much better still, homebridge it is for me


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MotoMD

UI on the best is good


nuclearxp

Down voted the exaggerated headline. It's not a leak if there is no source or context. This could just be photoshop.


sneezeburgular

https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/16/23074617/ecobee-enhanced-premium-smart-thermostats-leak


nuclearxp

fair point, but the article's basis of the theory just references the image posted on Reddit, thus this is a bit of an infinite loop of logic.


sneezeburgular

So your preferred logic is that the same instant the Premium model was leaked from the Canadian Tire website, someone photoshopped the Enhanced version for Reddit? Is this the simplest conclusion you’ve found?


StoichioVDC

Looks great. Having a slider and push button is a good feature.


arcangel_06

This is looking good.. even better than Nest. Love it


SimbaLLVM

The UI is both modern and a bit retro looking. Kind of reminds me of iOS 8 UI a bit.


CRAKZOR

dang I just got 2 of them


DetroitPeopleMover

If only this fully supported Carrier Infinity/Bryant Evolution systems


BioAndroid

I really miss the thermostat design of the nest. Felt so natural to just rotate the body to make a quick adjustment.


fscroggs

I wish my Ecobee 3 had simple + and - buttons for quick and easy adjustments


AppleOriginalProduct

https://www.ecobee.com/en-us/smart-thermostats/smart-thermostat-premium/ Officially released here today. Does anyone know if it works with a Fujitsu system?


ADHDK

Wish I could get something this pretty to replace my IR blasting Sensibo Air.