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Samsung flagship user experience of the pixel 4a 5g "how is pixel not everywhere?"

Samsung flagship user experience of the pixel 4a 5g "how is pixel not everywhere?"

dengjack

Because Pixels are literally not sold everywhere. Google basically only focuses on the US market, and anywhere else have generally bad availability of Google hardware products, and lots of countries don't even have them at all. And in countries that sell Pixel, aside from the US, the marketing is piss poor and low budget.


MrStruggleSnuggle

Also all the other markets they actually do sell Pixels in miss out on most of the pixel features, like call screening and hold.


gulasch_hanuta

Yeah, you gotta live in a english speaking country or Japan. *sad german noises*


MrStruggleSnuggle

Not even all English speaking ones - google sell pixels here in Australia but we don’t get call screening or hold or lots of those other features.


a-man-

Even in England, the homeland of the English language misses out on call screening. I guess the language has evolved in America to the level they can barely understand us anymore. We might as well be Vogons.


iamGobi

Change your language in settings to English US. It should work ig


a-man-

It looks like you use Google Voice to enable screening? I can change language to US English but Google Voice says it's not supported in this country and won't run.


iamGobi

Google voice = Google phone app?


a-man-

I think so, I changed language to US English and tried to follow this kB article below. They call the phone app voice there. The phone app on my pixel doesn't have the settings or any reference to enable call screening. I wouldn't be shocked if it's a legal thing and they can't enable it for some obscure reason. "Screen your Google Voice calls - Android - Google Voice Help" https://support.google.com/voice/answer/9262934?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&hl=en


CasperStyle

Seriously!?! No call screening for UK? I was looking forward to using that when I pick up my Pixel 5 in a months time…. Any other features that are only US available?


rtromao

As an example, In Canada we don't have car detection and automatic call screening, only manual.


ProjectVRD

My understanding is that Google is weary of German laws surrounding privacy, hence why many features cannot be implemented.


Sgt-Colbert

>sad german noises You have zero problems getting a pixel in Germany. You can literally have them on day one.


gulasch_hanuta

I bought my 4a day one. But i still can't get the features e.g. call screening or crash detection. Spam calls just get filtered out.


Sgt-Colbert

Ohhh, that's what you meant. Yeah it sucks for sure. But I think for call screening it's more of a language thing no? Or does that exist in any other language than English? I'm sure we'll get it eventually. Personally I can't wait. Would love to screen calls from my parents :D


djduijs

The distribution center is located in the Netherlands for Germany, and is not available in the Netherlands....


MorgrainX

Call screening is available in Japan. That's a language thing.


Sgt-Colbert

If it's available in Japan it's not a language thing. Has to be something else then.


Cwlcymro

You say "most" but it's only calling related ones as far as I can remember (call screening, duplex). Everything else is here in the UK at least


MrStruggleSnuggle

Well there aren’t really many other pixel exclusive features tbh, so “most” is pretty accurate.


Cwlcymro

From the top of my head I can think of: Locked folder Recorder app Google Photos editing tools Now playing Car crash detection Camera framing Astrophotography


ironhead0007

I live in Canada and the only Pixel ads I got were on YouTube.


kentology71

I'm in Canada too and I saw a ton of Pixel ads on regular broadcast and cable TV when the 4 and 3 were released. More ads with the 4 though. There was a sweet music bed running under the ad and the imagery was super colourful animation.


ironhead0007

Ohh well there you go. I haven't watched cable TV in ages so I probably missed out on those ones.


kentology71

I'm just glad they're getting the word out. Other than getting pixels for my family, I only know one other person that has one!


Sosbanfawr

I bought a Pixel 2 directly when I visited the US, otherwise I have imported my Pixel, Pixel 3 and Pixel 4a (5G) to Hong Kong. I pre-ordered a Pixel 4a for partner from Google Singapore. They're actually surprisingly common here, for an unreleased device. There is a little bit of travel between Hong Kong, Singapore and Taiwan (Google sells the Pixel in the latter 2) but not a lot as there is still a quarantine requirement. Still, wandering the streets of Hong Kong you can normally spot one.


dengjack

Hong Kong is kind of special. You can buy foreign devices relatively eaily. I have a friend in Hong Kong who imported on from Japan as well. But still, it's far from being common and most people would not go specifically looking for one, and even those who do would have to import one themselves or buy from import shops, which is really more bothersome than it should be.


Sosbanfawr

I had a lot of hardware issues with both my and my partner's Pixel 3, which was a pain. I found out later that the grey market "warranty" meant they just opened the phone, put it back together without properly waterproofing it and hoped for the best! I tried to get Google involved to send the phones away for proper repair but they refused because the owner was some random Chinese name and they wouldn't touch it unless he confirmed the sale first...sigh. In the end I used iFixit and parts from AliExpress to repair them both myself. Other than the Pixel 3s, I've been fine with parallel importing. I didn't want my partner to go through that stress again if there was any issues with the 4a, which is why I bought it myself and imported it through a friend from Google Singapore, but (touch wood) it has been fine. When I say "common", you pass about a thousand people in any walk in Hong Kong, so yes it's not like one-in-30 or something, more like one in a few hundred. I do pretty much daily see people with them, though. Photography is pretty popular here and a Google search for the best phone camera would point you to a phone that's less than half the price of an iPhone, so it's not like Pixel is a random brand that people are taking a chance on. There's a few guys in my office who always have the latest Pixel for photography reasons.


dengjack

There will always be people who follow the latest technology trends and import stuff that aren't available locally. But for every 10 people you can find that have Pixels, I can find 1000 more that have no idea what a Pixel is or otherwise just don't care about buying one. That's the point. Google does not sell Pixels in Hong Kong. There is no official presence. There is no marketing. People who buy Pixels in Hong Kong are in the end just a small minority.


Therassse

I was honestly surprised when I saw a TV ad for the Pixel 4a here in Germany. Might get some peoples attention.


IndefiniteBen

You would think Google would try something like that earlier. We don't have the same obsession with iOS and iMessage in Europe, people are comfortable getting Android phones, the a-series is excellent value for money and (generalising) Europeans are more receptive to the minimalistic software design. I personally think the a-series would sell like hot cakes here in NL with sufficient advertising.


Therassse

Pretty much the same here in Germany, haha.


IndefiniteBen

Google does a lot of stuff that seems idiotic to us plebs, ha :(


Therassse

Then again, these big companys aren't our friends, they're just doing the most profitable stuff. They may have guessed that an ad campaign in Europe just isn't worth it or something, idk.


MarloHMLL

As a french I can say that they are pixels in almost every shop but samsung is so huge that most of people just don't think and buy one


erickmojojojo

Google didnt realize the rest of the market, let's say even South East Asia alone have more human compared to the rest of the world. Other market beside US have quantity Google undervalued. I have to get mine via forwarding service with an added fee and bought mine from ebay


KoalaDolphin

Alot of those countries don't have the disposable income to buy high end smartphones compared to the west.


adli_hm

yep this reason too... i mean, they branded 4a as "budget phone", but here locally it could reach USD 491.13 for that... basically 1.5x more than original... and that cost is considered "high" in this area...


erickmojojojo

Did u live in SEA? Because here iphone and top line galaxy sell like hot cakes. Which is more expensive than Pixel.


KoalaDolphin

Where in SEA do you live? If you look at the most popular devices in SEA they are all low-mid range phones like the OPPO A5s and the Galaxy ON nxt. Google don't make cheaper lower end phones. I will say its a rapidly growing market though, i just don't know how big of a market for high end phones it is.


tails618

I keep getting a Pixel ad on YouTube in which apparently Google didn't think it was necessary to use a real person for the voice - it's pretty clearly text-to-speech.


MorgrainX

Also google purposely neglects non-us shops and providers. In most parts of Europe google only sold the 128gb Version of the p3 and P4 in their own shop, overpriced of course. Mobile telecommunication Providers only received 64gb versions for sale / cellular contracts. Alot of people went the iphone path because of that.


kainsta929

They don't sell in my country either(New Zealand) so had buy from Australia but also am surprised they don't sell here. Yes doesn't have the features as other phone(albeit top of the line iPhone sells for over 2k here) but the for the price $800NZD you cant go wrong. Will be continuing with Pixels from now on.


Bob_Chris

I honestly do not see myself ever buying a phone that isn't a pixel at this point


democskonyi

I agree. I used to be a Motorola enthusiast for the longest time because Google owned them, after my Moto X Force I jumped over to Pixel. I don't care about all of the downsides mentioned by the mainstream media, I'm Team Pixel for the foreseeable future.


bruceriv68

I was the same. I finally jumped from the Moto Z3 play to a used Pixel 3, and I will never change. I'm getting ready to get the Pixel 5. I think that will be perfect for me. I do miss the battery life of the Moto Z Play phones. I would have gone with the Pixel A version phones along time ago, but they didn't have wireless charging. The Moto cameras weren't bad, but always disappointed a bit.


democskonyi

Yeah the Moto phones were always fun for me especially the Moto Actions but because of the slow system updates and support I had to make the switch not to mention smaller issues I had with the Motorola's. Now if I could recommend the Pixel 4 or 4 XL instead of the 5, I'd do it. The SD 855 and higher resolution display on the 4 XL is a must especially since I just upgraded from the 2 XL. When it comes to the biggest differences between the 4 and 5 being the Fingerprint scanner and Face Unlock, The ultrawide and Telephoto, it really isn't a big issue. If you're really convinced on getting the 5, I'm not stopping you, just giving you another options. 👍


thatissomeBS

I went from the Moto Z Play to the Pixel 3. I still miss that juggernaut of battery life (regularly 10-12 hours scree on time without a battery mod). I'm waiting to see what the P6 brings, and will be deciding between that or a (hopefully discounted by then) P5.


thinkscotty

I’m basically only interested in Pixels and iPhones at this point. Maybe OnePlus. I hate software skins with a burning irrational passion.


crazymick

I have the same irrational passion.


knowhatimsayin

Same! Maybe it's not so irrational after all?


OhHeyItsBrock

Not one plus for me anymore. Company is going downhill.


Phantasmalicious

Yep, same. Jumped from S10 to OP 6 and 7. Now iPhone until Google fixes WearOS and introduces a proper ecosystem.


sh0nuff

If the OnePlus had camera experiences that matched the Pixels I'd be all over it - one thing I've always wanted from the OnePlus models is the silence slider: it's the ONLY thing I miss from my iPhone experiences (the original iPhone and then the iPhone 3g - after that I moved to Android) I really hate how the volume panel works in Android - if I pull down the notification shade and tap the volume button to switch it to vibrate or silent, why does it still blare out my media as a separate volume? I'm still forced to mash the volume rocker down because I'm waking up my partner with some random video I decide to watch cuz I cant sleep -rantover, yes, oddly specific :P


Rayziel

Made the mistake going OP 7t. Don't. Edit: really happy it broke. I'm now on a Pixel 5 and I've never been happier . (Considered buying an iPhone too though.)


okfnjesse

This generation I finally jumped off of a Pixel to an S21 Ultra and I have to say, as much as I miss the overall experience, the camera and battery life is such an upgrade that I'm ok dealing with janky software. The Pixel 6 really needs to step up it's game to get me back.


JohnnyVNCR

I can't see myself in the near future changing it up, I've been happy with my 3 and now 5, but I'm intrigued to see where the Microsoft Surface phone goes.


bruceriv68

Microsoft has a long ways to go when it comes to cameras.


Guru_of_Spores

Microsoft has incredibly bad history with quality control. Personally would be at the bottom of my list.


laserdemon1

I went to a Oneplus because I thought they'd be better. I upgraded from the Oneplu 6t, which was nice, but the Pixel 5 is amazing. I had a Nexus 5, actually still have it, but the Pixel 5 just works.


weegeeK

If Google stops making phone in the future, I’ll head into to full iPhone life.


Sumo_Cerebro

I just need a bigger screen on future models and I am good. I have big hands so I need the extra real estate.


chato706

Same.


say592

I left for a short period but came right back. I want thrilled with the Pixel 3, so I checked out what OnePlus had. Not bad phones, but not Pixels.


brycedriesenga

I felt the same until finding out the new Pixels are both going to be too big. Unless I really can't find a normal-sized alternative.


sh0nuff

I've been saying that since my Google Nexus 1 - I wish I'd nabbed one of the OG HTC Dreams


parental92

it's simple, you want iOS buy directly from the source (not like you can do otherwise). I want Android, so i get my phone directly from the maker of the android OS. ​ Just upgraded from P2xl to P5, could not be happier. I'll hold on to this until the update ends and upgrade to whatever pixel next.


daboirell

I loved my Pixel 4XL but I'm using the Galaxy Z Fold 2 now and it would be hard for me to switch back to a normal phone. Once the rumored Pixel Fold is released I'll most likely make the switch back to Google.


ascjced

They don't sell it here in the Philippines. I think it'd be so popular if it sold here. The midrange ones here are just as expensive but mediocre in comparison. I got my Pixel 3, which I still use today, from the US.


Cynoid

It's pretty easy to see how they're not everywhere: 1. The customer service is the worst. And if Google does screw you over, you get screwed harder than with any other company as a dozen years+ of saved data gets wiped even when Google is in the wrong. 2. It doesn't just work all of the time. There are dozens of pixel issues that stick around for a year + that just don't happen on other platforms(or get fixed much faster). Group messaging not working at all after the first few messages in a day, android auto having issues with listening/working, audio randomly turning on and playing full blast are all Pixel specific issues that I and lost of other people had for 6-24+ months that got fixed eventually but would never have lasted nearly as long on Samsung/Apple. Pixel 4 is a great phone with an amazing price but it's disingenuous to pretend Google's flaws aren't a deal breaker for most people.


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happinass

I get the disappearing weather on my Xiaomi, as well as on my previous Oneplus. I think it's a Google app thing, not necessarily a Pixel thing.


Mysizemeow

I get it too on my pixel 4a and I thought it was a feature. I told myself how smart this phone is it knows when to show weather and when net to lol.


happinass

Haha


KalashnikittyApprove

> i would love to go full on pixel but **i need a flagship** [emphasis added]. I'm always curious about this, so I got to honestly ask: why do people "need" flagships? Is there some obscure power user workflow that can only be achieved on the absolute latest hardware? I'm not trying to be a d***, it's just that to me phones over the last few years have become so incredibly powerful that the chase for higher specs seems almost pointless by now, at least for the vast majority of people. Flagship afficionados: what do you actually use your phone for that requires a +1k investment?!


drummer1213

Personally I don't need the flagship processor although I would love to get an IP rating for the midrange phones. That's the only feature I miss having on my 4a. Performance is fine.


BaySlanger

Not to be a smart ass, but isn’t the pixel a flagship? So when he says that he wants a flagship but doesn’t want to go full pixel, I don’t really understand what he means. But for the sake of this argument, I can tell you that I disliked the performance of my Google pixel 4. I was coming from an iPhone 11. I used the pixel for about a week and then I switched to a S20. I’m not a specs guy, I’m a late adopter, but the difference in performance was undeniable. One of the most noticeable differences was simply perusing webpages. The scrolling took forever on the Pixel. I was also unable to make it a full day without charging. At the time I was using my phone quite a bit but still.


ten10thsdriver

I just ditched my 5 month old S21 Ultra for a Pixel 5 after horrendous customer service over a defective phone from Samsung. I'm not regretting "downgrading" from a $1200 phone to a $650 phone one bit.


MrStruggleSnuggle

You'd better hope you never have to deal with Google's customer service lol.


ten10thsdriver

I have in the past. Definitely no worse than Samsung.


boricalderon

I believe the answer to your question is the YouTuber's opinion of a flagship. Samsung offers great specs in a phone and feel every Android phone's spec have to match that of Samsung. The truth is that a flagship is the best a company has to offer. iPhones do very well dispite specs that do not compare to Samsung but Android phones are never given praise unless it can match Samsung specs. Pixels like iPhone don't need all the specs as Google optimizes Android to pixels in the same way iOS is to iPhone. Most people turn to YouTubers to review phones and they don't always talk nice about Google Pixels. It isn't until people try them that you get the positive reviews. Most people on Reddit love their Pixels. I remember as far back as the Pixel 2 display blue shift that was made into a huge deal but most Pixel 2 owners believe to this day that was the best Pixel ever made. My point is reviews talkbad about the phone but owners of the device sing a different song. They love them. Just my own opinion.


sophware

Just switched from Pixel 2XL to S21 Ultra yesterday. Loved that 2XL. Still do--not sure I should have abandoned it yet. Screen was great.


sufy12

Love the stock experience. The Pixel 4 XL is a fantastic phone in that regard.


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New to pixel from Samsung and i can say apple and Samsung have the best made phones that feel premium. Coming from s10 plus i had my doubts. I am very happy with my pixel 5. Pixel is still new to the game, honestly they are at the point of where the galaxy s5 was. I think the pixel 6 pro will change a lot of minds about pixel if they make it flagship level.


Smply_Rckless

Ahhh yes the weekly “my pixel is better than (insert phone here) circle jerk. Was starting to get worried


Zombiechrist265

Well I would not go that far. Just said that I was surprised how much of the same experience I could get out from software alone. The s21 still wins by a Longshot. - Superior display that can't be matched. - Fast charging with reverse wireless charging, has actually been useful with my headphones from time to time when I need some quick juice. - Much better build. - Samsung software actual usual features like one handed mode which is great when I'm on a bike. And hex themes which I guess android 12 can replace. - WAY better entertainment experience like speakers, screen and gaming. - Better haptics and more easy social networking with snapchat actually being optimized. - Great waterproofing experience, using the phone for all kinds of weather and parties I have had a few times where my phone would get wet which is then easy cleanable. If pixel 6 can at least match these things I would not mind switching.


KnightScuba

Google phone are not water friendly at all. My Note20 ultra I take underwater


parental92

Why wait ? Pixel 5 already has most of this ​ >Superior display that can't be matched. The display on P5 is also really great, with one of the most precise grey point [calibration](https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-5-display-review/) on the industry. It has virtually no black crush at all. ​ >Fast charging with reverse wireless charging, has actually been useful with my headphones from time to time when I need some quick juice. Pixel 5 charges fast, also ahs reverse wireless charging. It also conform to USB-PD standard so you can use any charger that supports that. ​ >Much better build. i'd argue metal skeleton body covered in grippy plastic is a better build than a glass sandwich. (Bonus) It still retains wireless charging despite the contraction being a durable metall. ​ >Samsung software actual usual features like one handed mode which is great when I'm on a bike. And hex themes which I guess android 12 can replace. One handed more is coming to android 12. Also with compact body like on pixel 5, its not needed as much. Pixels can be customized on certain level (boosted on 12), even the status bar icons (live on android 11) that are not available in Samsung device currently. ​ >WAY better entertainment experience like speakers, screen and gaming. eh , subjective. cant comment on gaming because i don't game on phones. ​ >Better haptics and more easy social networking with snapchat actually being optimized. true. ​ >Great waterproofing experience, using the phone for all kinds of weather and parties I have had a few times where my phone would get wet which is then easy cleanable. pixel 5 has the exact same waterproof rating. With behind the screen speakers, you don't have a dirty earpiece grille at the front collecting dust (and 1 less ingress point).


Zombiechrist265

I don't have a pixel 5. My experience is with the 4a 5G which makes your whole post pointless. And yes it has better entertainment features. - bigger screen with brighter colors. - bigger and better speakers with Dolby atmos. - Samsung DEX that makes your TV into a desktop with all your stuff on your device. So yeah a better experience for entertainment.


parental92

oh well, i guess it's fair to compare a S-line Samsung with Entry level A-Line pixels. ​ have fun with that fingerprint sensor :)


tiny_smile_bot

>:) :)


Janostar213

Right? Don't forget the stock/barebone android experience elitists too


BBot95

Don’t want to be a downer but wait about 9 months to a year then the battery craps out


Zombiechrist265

I'm only using it as a backup so I don't have to worry about it for a few years. And with my s21 I am a few minutes away from a $30 battery replacement at a local Samsung shop.


BBot95

That’s good! I may sound bitter I’ve just been burned battery life-wise on the last couple pixels I’ve owned, I might be an outlier lol


genuinefaker

I had the Pixel 3 XL but the battery is pretty bad. I am now using the LG V60 but love to get the Pixel 6 Pro later. I am not too hot on the curved screen rumors though. Flat screen is always go to be better even if the screen size is reduced to get the same width.


SilentLock

I have had a pixel XL, 2XL, 3a XL and 4a5G. The 2 XL was my favorite and I agree, the 4a 5G should have been bigger than 6.2". 6.7" would have been great. Pixel is not everywhere because Google doesn't market the phone well compared to Samsung and Apple. Also hard to see them stealing sales away from those two other manufacturers, even with good marketing.


bruceriv68

When you walk into a cell retailer, the sales people only push the popular stuff or phones with lots of features. They want the quick sale so it's either iphones or Samsung. When I go in asking to see the Pixels, they usually just point to where they are, and let me look at them. I usually have to tell them why Pixels are good phones, and why I don't want their popular phones


DioMike993

In Italy pixel 4a 5g is sold via Amazon for 499€ (theres only the pixel 4a on Google store here) while s21 is now at 630€.


TylerTman

Leaving pixel for a few reasons (pixel 4a): no wireless charging, screens crack very easy compared to others, inability to use usb-c to HDMI, not a very bright screen even at max, lately the camera quality is crap compared to when I first got it, battery life deteriorated quickly after only 1yr.


cdegallo

>Pixel software is surprisingly barebone but at the same time feature rich, I line using pixels, but I don't agree with this--there few features that I think are useful on pixels that other phones don't have; copying items in app overview is the only one I actually miss when I use another brand, and missing things like a system-wide equalizer make for an annoying experience. Lacking a display white/color balance adjustment is disappointing because so many of my pixels have had odd white balance, and things like their Rules feature for phone automation is very barebones. >Even with the slower processor it still feels smooth, It's just not the highest end processor. It doesn't make it bad for doing the tasks that people do with their phones by any means; even the 730g in the 4a provides the same general use experience as my 4 xl does. I've also had a phone with every highest-end snapdragon processor since the sd835 through the sd888. In general the processing capabilities of them has surpassed what people generally do with their devices that it doesn't really matter anymore.


nonga9

where did you buy it from?


Mav1010

One word. Marketing.


Zombiechrist265

This is something I have noticed. Other than you tubers I have never seen a pixel ad. Most people in Scandinavia only knows samsung, huawei and IPhone.


uaadda

it doesn't help that the pixel is not officially sold in Scandinavia. Or pretty much all of Europe, for that matter. Which also makes repairs near impossible, one of the reasons why I switched back to the apple ecosystem.


1cwg

Since moving over from the HTC 10, I have only owned Pixel devices. Google takes care of their Pixel owners And for that we get a great experience. Day one OS updates along with monthly feature drops and security updates are among the many reasons I only will use a Pixel device.


Zombiechrist265

To be fair I also get monthly updates on my s21. Where google shines is the mayor updates like Android 12. And betas which has been stable and makes me more excited for the new design.


WHYAREWEALLCAPS

One word - Google. They are not a hardware company. They are not a software company. Hell, they're only really tangentially a tech company. They are an advertising company first and foremost. Compare that to Samsung or Apple. Companies that live or die based on their hardware.


Zephyrical16

Just got a A52 5G a few weeks ago to replace a broken 3a XL. No brainer price wise, got it for cheap compared to a Pixel 4a 5G in the US. Some things I've noticed that are better on the Pixel: * Battery is still king on Pixel, even after 2 years of use. It's close, but I'm worried in the future for my Samsung. * Haptics are non-existent on the Samsung. The Pixel I was typing on a keyboard, the Samsung I'm typing while the entire phone vibrates in no specific spot. * In-screen fingerprint scanner is ass. I was scared the 5a was gonna remove this anyway so this is kind of a moot point. * Despite having UFS storage and a better CPU, OneUI seems to drag it down to be as fast as the Pixel with eMMC storage, when it should technically be way faster. OneUI also lacks the screenshot in multitasking, and isn't as pleasant in setting up your home page. * Nighttime blue light filter is better on the Pixel. The in-screen fingerprint scanner on the Samsung forces this to not work on the lock screen, which is very annoying when I check my phone at 2AM. I also can't find a good shade on the Samsung that looks good without blue light unlike on the Pixel. In-different aspects: * Headphone jack is the same quality on both. * Charging speed is same on both. * Android Auto is technically faster, but crashes more. In general, apps that I have that run faster seem to crash a bit more (Snapchat mostly). Where the Samsung shines: * Camera is about the same, but the digital zoom as well as the extra cameras are better than the Pixel. * Screen brightness. I can actually see my phone outside. * Adaptive screen brightness. Sets levels a lot better than Pixel. * 120Hz screen. Pretty obvious improvement. * "Waterproof". Technically there, but I don't think this is something you can rely on with phones anyway.


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Zephyrical16

Huh odd. Mine lasted a year of biking commute (rain or snow) and a year of being outside all the time in rain or snow as well due to COVID. It only broke as I dropped it down a rather large hill.


Zombiechrist265

Great points. With my s21 I luckily don't have to deal with some of the these things. But good comparison.


PuzzleheadedRecord6

If you care about software then never buy an android phone costing more than $300-$400. Why pay $1200 every 3 years when for $800 you can get an iPhone lasting you 6 years?


Elephant789

Because ios is crap?


PuzzleheadedRecord6

Statistically your opinion is incorrect


Vulpes-Vulpes-Fox

That's... not how that works.


PuzzleheadedRecord6

As a whole package iPhone is better. Software, hardware and security. End of story mate. Not saying android is bad at all. I'm looking forward to android 12 on my pixel but the android business model as a whole sucks balls, almost corrupt even.


Vulpes-Vulpes-Fox

I don't take umbrage with the idea that iOS is good. It's got quite a lot going for it. But that's not how statistics works. His opinion is that - an opinion. It doesn't matter what other people think, it doesn't matter what statistics about user satisfaction, hardware or software benchmarks vs android, etc... he's not statistically incorrect because statistics have nothing to do with a personal opinion.


PuzzleheadedRecord6

If my personal opinion is 2 + 2 = 5 am I incorrect or not? I basically said his opinion can be challenged by facts.


KalashnikittyApprove

He did not point to specific issues to be challenged on though. I don't think iOS is "crap" either, but this sounded like a very subjective and personal assessment, in which case there is not factually correct answer.


PuzzleheadedRecord6

I get you. But it's humourous that Android fans clearly get hurt by my comments that are legit concerns. I'm all for Google Pixel devices and I like the direction Android is going. But we need to be able to criticise our own preferred devices to bring about improvement in future iterations. An obvious thing to do is look at what competitors are doing. Other Android OEMs charging $$$$ for a device they won't remember the following year is scandal.


KalashnikittyApprove

On the self reflection I'm completely with you. I'm approaching this from the other side as I'm pretty much set on iPhones and iOS, but I did try the Pixel for a few months and usually get similar reactions on iOS/Apple/iPhone subreddits when I point out that there are things in Android that *might* not be a bad idea after all. It's ridiculous.


Vulpes-Vulpes-Fox

That's an objective truth. Preference of operating system is not.


LoliLocust

It's like saying *insert Linux* is better than Windows.


AdminsROnAPowerTrip

I’ll agree with you there. I use a 12 pro along side a 4a5g. DEAR GOD iOS is leaps and bounds a better UI. Pixel is so choppy, laggy and so unrefined it’s almost embarrassing.


Zombiechrist265

I love apple as a whole. What they are achieving in ecosystem is something I could only dream about in the android space. In very happy with my iPad pro as an all around entertainment machine. But when it comes to phones I am a very heavy Google user. I use YouTube premium and YT music, two different Google accounts, Google photos and a separate UNI account. Which is much easier to navigate around and use on Android than IOS. Also as a gamer I LOVE emulators, I grew up with the ps3 which meant I lost the experience of Nintendo and older Sony devices. Which is why I use my phone for gaming ps1, gamecube and Nintendo 64 games. And with easier controller support it just feels right. These things can not be achieved by iPhone unless certain things are changed. Android is the home for me. But each their own.


PuzzleheadedRecord6

I agree with you. But some redditors on Android get a little shirty when such things are said. We should all complain about this update lifecycle thing. Sure not everyone keeps a phone for that long but not everyone enjoys spending $1000 cash every few years. My uncle's Pixel 2 works just as well as my Pixel 4a but won't be updated to Android 12 but at least give him security updates Google! Sure there are features like game emulators which I love about Android. But there are ways to do this on iOS without much difficulty or needing to jailbreak. My brother used to switch Samsung phones every other year but not since he had his iPhone xs max.


AntiqueTech

Trying to pitch iOS to a longtime Samsung user...r/lostredditors


Dachy_Vashakmadze

Apple Inc do not sells phone, y are renting that phone for 100-200 $ a year, also company is using that device to milk y more, for money. Yes y are getting best service but at the end y are getting ......... Yes apple is best lover but only thing it wants from y is y money, not just pice no no no all of it.


narddawg314

I switched over from Samsung s5 I think to the original Pixel and haven't looked back. I'm not sure what you're ranting about "must have a flagship phone"... Don't buy the A, get the Pixel 5 or 6 when it comes out. Isn't that a "flagship" phone?? My 5 is aluminum..not plastic


Muddy_Roots

I have the 4a and its literally the worst phone i've ever had. It's my 3rd pixel too.


mainmeal5

Why is it the worst phone?


Muddy_Roots

Just having a shitty time with it coming from pixel xl. For example the touch screen doesn't work well, I have to, sometimes, repeatedly touch an app icon to get it to work. It randomly turns things on and off by itself. Like I won't touch it and the wifi is off as is Bluetooth, and it's put into vibrate mode. All while in pocket or literally just sitting on my table. This is my third pixel and they keep getting worse.


Teethpasta

You downgraded from a flagship to a mid range device?


mainmeal5

Seems more like software issues if anything. Android being android


Lz72kuuxrnTTSrXD6F7y

Gaming may take a hit hardware-wise – think about how Stadia fits into Google's ecosystem, the processing power is in the cloud


MrStruggleSnuggle

The Pixel 4a 5G isn't RRP$299 though. You bought a likely second hand one. Here in Australia it's $800 compared to $1100 for a S21. > At this price, and feature i feel pixel should have a bigger market in Europe At almost flagship price and without 75% of the features a samsung has, they will never be big. Europe and everywhere that's not the USA miss out on almost all of the actually good pixel features like call screening.


Zombiechrist265

Nope. Brand new in box. In Scandinavia as an official online sale webshop they are legally not allowed to sell refurbished products unless it's very specified. Like I said it was cheap because the local shops that try to sell international devices tend to put huge discounts on them when they can't get rid of stock.


MrStruggleSnuggle

Ok so you got a massively reduced bargain bin price. That’s not their normal price so you can’t use it to make any points. If they sold them there they’d be closer to $800, not $300.


SwoleMcDole

Where in Scandinavia if you don't mind me asking? Reason is I am in Sweden, would like to buy a 5 or 4a, but all I keep seeing for months is a few shops selling either of them for around 150-200 EUR more than normal retail price. Have price alerts set for even just the standard price and nothing ever comes up.


_jotero_

Absolutely, I don't see myself buying any other Android phone that isn't a Pixel...


Janostar213

BuH mUh PiXeL.....


mainmeal5

Scandinavians are suckers for iPhones and samsung flagships. And the fact it's not officially marketed. People are stupid, but many are waking up to even the cheapest motos or OnePlus phones does messaging, phone calling and web browsing just as good as phones costing 10x more


Sosbanfawr

I went from a Pixel 3 to a Note9. After 6 months I jumped back and got a 4a (5G). Despite all the bells and whistles on the Note9, the 4a (5G) is a much better user experience. It's hard to quantify why it's better exactly, but I'd say I experience less annoyances. I find everything just works, and works in a logical way. I won't change away from Pixel again.


smdx459

I too love the always on music listener but I also realized it's a way to listen to you at all times.


pfmiller0

The music recognition is all local, that's why it doesn't do as well with more obscure music which online services like SoundHound recognize. There is a local library with the signatures of the most popular music in your area which Google matches songs against.


smdx459

I did not know this. Good info thank you!


ema_G

I tried going a few weeks with a Samsung Galaxy phone recently and it convinced me to stick with Pixel and/or iPhone. I honestly can’t see why reviewers overlook the awful UI/UX implementations on Samsung’s devices. Are these the kind of people that were fine with malware-ridden, toolbar-covered Windows desktops? (I understand that Pixels aren’t marketed well or even available widely, but let’s consider US reviewers who have access to them.)


TIFUbyResponding

I have an S21, 4a 5G and OnePlus 9 Pro sitting around right now, and software wise, the Pixel kills it. The only thing that I despise about the pixel is the rear fingerprint sensor, so until the 6 comes out I'm using the 9 Pro.


n0kkie

I have both an S10+ and a Pixel 4a .. I always go back to my P4a .. My only gripe? No IP rating! :( ..


ilinamorato

So my understanding is that you actually have to pay for an IP rating. So maybe Google just didn't want to shell out for it?


MrStruggleSnuggle

You pay for the certification, but the Pixel 4a doesn't have the actual water resistant build to stop water.


Fenix_Volatilis

For charging, have you tried a higher voltage charger? I don't recall which voltages the 4a fast charges up to, but a quick Google will tell ya


ohhidayo

The pixel is my favourite phone by far, but even then I'm still contemplating whether I will stay because of how absolute dog shit the customer service is. Especially in Australia where we don't even have an official repairer or stores.


Cheeky-Fuka

Well the Pixel 6 and 6 Pro will be here in a few months with it's new SoC, Whitechapel, which should help with device support for a longer service life kind of like iOS. The displays will be bigger and better and they're coming out with a foldable if that's your thing. I've had Samsung in the past and they're great phones. But I got my 1st Pixel, a 4a 5G, in March and I'm hooked. I wish I would've jumped on the Pixel train earlier. I'm never going back to another manufacturer. Pixel is the way Android is meant to be experienced. I can't wait to get the 6 Pro.


gotawayfromyou

Woooow, where did you buy it? It’s a great deal. 299 usd?


max1001

That's because it's $299. It's $499. If they had MSRP at $299, it would sell pretty well.


LoliLocust

Price and the fact Google doesn't sell it anywhere


Adventurous_Pound_93

I stick with oneplus because root and specs and the I prefer the oxygen os


i_h8_names

Pixel phone isn't good until you've tried other devices. PERIOD. if you're truly judging, being critical, looking for things big and small... It's hard to compete with a company who's got the most exposure to a system they operate.. Not to mention they oversee a lot of internet services today. Or they hire the best people to do it or make it ..They're not fuckin around .. Problem is they are a two sided coin. Good services come and go over night or transform into something else entirely. Or cause lots of problems or maybe they work perfect but some other issue like licensing, govt laws, and trade, etc. Everything wrong with the internet today i believe is directly due to them, but it's also the reason it moves onward .. for better or worse, the future will decide. I just hope they swing red white blue at the end of it all


Phantasmalicious

1. They are not sold everywhere. 2. So many issues across many models, which are either not fixed or replaced with another failing device. 3. WearOS has yet to catch up to iOS (WatchOS) people often buy into an ecosystem and Google has none. 4. Features are mostly U.S. based.


ProjectVRD

>But my question is. WHY IS PIXEL NOT EVERYWHERE? Google does not put any real effort into advertising, whilst many here will say "But they put little poster ads on websites...." Well yeah that doesn't cut it. With no TV commercial footprint outside of the USA then this device will never ever sell well. Europe, India and China are each a phenomenally massive market. If Google want to get serious then they must advertise as much as Samsung and Apple do, they are the leaders and yet they still need to aggressively advertise on television. Pixel has zero audience awareness.


KnightScuba

Google's hardware issues can't be overlooked anymore as they used to freely RMA a bad phone now they shortened their warranty and pass balme on to their customers leaving them with a phone they have to fix. If they didn't have constant hardware issues they would be a great phone. Also don't trust any water rating.


150297

Any rumours that pixel will come to europe or?


smurfe

I had the OG Pixel, and the Pixel 3XL. Wife had the Pixel 2XL. When the 5 was announced that there would not be an XL version, I went to Samsung S20FE which had a few quirks, and then I went to the regular S21. While the Samsung is a fine device I really wish I had just gone with the Pixel 5 as I didn't realize I really wanted the smaller format. I am going to try to milk 3 years out of the S21 but I will probably go back to Pixel sooner than later. I really miss the software experience, particularly Call Screening. I heard some other devices have that feature now but it will not work on my Samsung.


Dachy_Vashakmadze

It is very easy :) explain there, Google do not sells phone everywhere and marketing budget is low, from y 1200 euro galaxy at list 350 euro was spent on marketing ..


Swarfega

I learnt this lesson when going from a Galaxy S4 to a Nexus 5.


Grabow

I left my pixel 4 xl for the Galaxy fold 2. The Fold 2 is awesome and I have so many positive and great things to say about the fold 2. Yet I want to go back to the 4xL or buy a cheaper used P5.


tedsturnovers

So long as google keeps up the headphone jack in the "a" series phones, I will keep buying them. USB-C and headphones were a requirement for me when buying my first nexus 5x. I agree with your general sentiment though. How anyone would buy anything else is beyond me. Obviously the best phone for the money.


Alpha_S_205

Samsung has bloatware. Google doesn't. Samsung bad