FURIA vs MOUZ / IEM Dallas 2023 - Group A Lower Bracket Semi-Final / Post-Match Discussion

FURIA ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท 0-2 ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ MOUZ

Inferno: 10-16
Vertigo: 4-16



Map picks:

Anubis X
X Ancient
Inferno โœ”
โœ” Vertigo
Overpass X
X Nuke


Full Match Stats:

Team K-D ADR KAST Rating
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท FURIA
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท yuurih 29-36 84.7 67.4% 1.01
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท KSCERATO 30-30 71.6 67.4% 0.97
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท drop 25-33 50.8 63.0% 0.76
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท saffee 20-35 49.0 63.0% 0.65
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท arT 18-36 46.2 58.7% 0.57
๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ MOUZ
๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ dexter 39-28 87.1 80.4% 1.35
๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช JDC 36-21 82.9 71.7% 1.31
๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ xertioN 36-31 89.6 82.6% 1.28
๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฐ frozen 33-18 83.2 76.1% 1.26
๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ torzsi 23-25 52.2 76.1% 0.99


Individual Map Stats:

Map 1: Inferno

Team CT T Total
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท FURIA 8 2 10
๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ MOUZ 7 9 16


Team K-D ADR KAST Rating
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท FURIA
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท yuurih 19-18 94.1 76.9% 1.18
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท KSCERATO 20-18 81.4 57.7% 1.05
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท drop 17-16 54.3 61.5% 0.86
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท saffee 13-19 60.0 73.1% 0.83
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท arT 9-18 38.5 57.7% 0.58
๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ MOUZ
๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ xertioN 20-19 92.4 76.9% 1.26
๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช JDC 21-13 68.8 61.5% 1.21
๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฐ frozen 18-13 87.1 65.4% 1.18
๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ dexter 18-17 71.4 69.2% 1.16
๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ torzsi 10-17 48.8 73.1% 0.90

Inferno detailed stats and VOD


Map 2: Vertigo

Team T CT Total
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท FURIA 4 0 4
๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ MOUZ 11 5 16


Team K-D ADR KAST Rating
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท FURIA
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท KSCERATO 10-12 58.8 80.0% 0.91
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท yuurih 10-18 72.5 55.0% 0.82
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท drop 8-17 46.2 65.0% 0.64
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท arT 9-18 56.1 60.0% 0.58
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท saffee 7-16 34.7 50.0% 0.44
๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ MOUZ
๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ dexter 21-11 107.5 95.0% 1.62
๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช JDC 15-8 101.2 85.0% 1.47
๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฐ frozen 15-5 78.0 90.0% 1.38
๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ xertioN 16-12 86.0 90.0% 1.32
๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ torzsi 13-8 56.6 80.0% 1.13

Vertigo detailed stats and VOD


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Wooohooo we suck less than Furia! I'm happy I didn't have to stay up to 2:30 AM to watch this asswhoopin'. If Furia make roster changes which will result in a Brazilian era in CS2, thank us.


Welcome Fallen to Furia. This team is done.


Sad days when a team thinks Fallen will save them in the year 2023


Yeah thatโ€™s so weird. Itโ€™s like getting Ronaldo for your football team and believing you will become a world beater because of that


Well at least Al Nassr is 2nd in the league and CR7 is the 5th highest goal scorer. Can't say the same for Furia and Fallen's position in CS.


Well, the comparison or allegory of course isn't quite precise, because professional football is quite different from professional CS:GO. What I meant to say is that getting old stars past their prime and expecting these big names to carry you, mostly isn't a good approach


Of couse, I was agreeing with you. My comment was implying that getting Ronaldo at least isn't as dire as getting Fallen to join your team, and that Al Nassr is in a better place than Furia right now, which only makes Furia's situation even worse than it looks. Even settling for washed up players will probably not elevate Furia any further, unlike Al Nassr


Werent Al Nassr in first place when he joined tho? :D


Fair enough, I misunderstood. Yea, 1/5 is different than 1/11 haha


Iโ€™m just happy this was the last time we saw this roster together. Saffee and drop can fuck off now.


brazilian fans are the best in the world... we dont win shit since only god knows when and yet we always believe like a bunch of delusionals


Are you me? Because God damn it is hard to have your hopes crushed every single time.


Remember those times when we watched SK play tournaments? We all knew they would win every single tournament they played, but we still watched it because we wanted to see how SK would stomp other teams. 5 years into the future and i still expect brazilian teams to do that. I shouldnt even be frustrated at this furia early exit but i am a fucking delusional clown because i still expect them to not just win tournaments but dominate other teams as well. Its painful to watch, but i still want to believe...


The Brazilian shuffle before CS2 is going to be something else


What a huge AWP battle between the two scopeGod, what a performance from both!


FURIA is a dead team, there is no synergy and communication seems to be non-existent. Let's see what changes he will make, but it is clear that arT, saffee and drop cannot continue.


I honestly likes that Fallen rumor from yesterday. They could easily take Art off IGL duties and -Saffee -drop +Fallen +Vini. Fallen AWP + IGL, Art entry + 2nd calling.


that team won't do shit lol fallen isnt even close to being good enough for a tier 1 awper and art + vini are average at best


I think art as entry is worth a shot. See if he raises his performance being off IGL duties.


A big part of his playstyle is being aggressive early to be traded so he can focus 100% on calling mid round when he is dead, i dont think he may feel comfortable not calling, but i may be proved wrong


Then who else? Unless they go international there isnโ€™t anyone in Brazil at tier 1 level. Even Zevy isnโ€™t ready. You could argue skullz for drop and maybe nqz for saffee but that leaves you still with Art calling. By putting Fallen there youโ€™re guaranteed to have a new style of play and Iโ€™m aware heโ€™s past his peak but he can still perform better than Saffee.


insani - this dude is hard carrying the mibr lineup


dont think anyone, theres just not enough talent to upgrade the current team. maybe someone else for drop, but not sure any of the available players would improve the team that much lol no, as bad as saffee can look, he's playing against WAAAY better competition than fallen and even then, fallen is hardly dominating against complete shit regional teams. watching him recently against sprout and 9ine was just depressing, got completely outclassed


It's a temp solution at best, FURIA needs to plan longer term if they want to challenge for Tier 1 trophies. Changes take time to materialise and by that time Fallen probably will be completely washed - a waste of time for both ends.


You don't need fallen to be the best or one of the best awpers in the world like he once was, they need a consistent awp that can play vs tier 1/2 teams other than nouns, liquid and all of NA/SA. You obviously need to make changes, that team is as good as dead. I personally would like to have the best of both worlds and have art 2 calling or fallen 2 calling as well, maybe throw someone who can solo bomb while we are at it, like taco, boltz, etc. . .


Fallen on liquid was decent. Don't need anything special when you have the best rifler in the world.


except they don't have it and you definitely need more than just 1 top rifler in the world to be a consistent top team


Yuurih has been top 20 2 of the last 3 years. Heโ€™s definitely good enough as a secondary rifler.


I would love to see +chelo. Not sure about roles in FURIA as I don't follow them, but surely there's room for him. I was so impressed by his carry performances in the "last dance" Imperial roster. He has big potential imo.


Its just slightly upgraded Imperial which is still bad outside brazil


I cannot imagine how the team synergy must be with the players confirming changes will be made and that fallen is being considering. Comms must be awkward as fuck.


GG WP Furia. Finally, a somehow good showing from us. One more match for the arena!


Torzsi should be thanking furia for deflecting criticism from him, grt mouz an average tier1 awper and I believe they can consistently get top4 placements


Thank you for the memories. Freed kscerato please!


drop, art, saffee, welcome to McDonalds FC


Last time mouz played furia, it was a pretty convincing victory with JDC and Dexter top fragging. This was in Esl pro league in feb-march


The German activating against Brazilians, nothing to see here


Funny how drop turned out, I remember when he first played he looked like he would be able to hang around in T1 with more experience. Then years passed and his decision making somehow got worse/dumber lol


arT and drop gotta go man. They are just wasting KSCERATO and yuurih's careers like this.


arT is having some good individual performances, drop and saffee are the actual issues.


Drop has to be the most brainless T1/2 player out there


thats the furia I know and love!


arT saffee and drop finally removed after this


Art trashing talking Janko Gaules crying in a corner


poor saffee, same case as with meyern in mibr drop never was good for tier1, still have no idea why coach put so much trust in him, when there are tons of young br players who did better then drop ever did in tier3


+insani for the cracked rifling superteam


A game of cat and mouse


I don't know what happen to them getting worse everyday.


brazilian shuffle needed