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Awesome... They had to make it POLITICAL, smh

Awesome... They had to make it POLITICAL, smh

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loyaltomyself

"ThEY dIdNt BrInG aTtEnTiOn To HiS sKiN cOlOr".


Soul_Ripper

/uj wait aren't the complaints usually about the exact opposite?


loyaltomyself

/uj No, Gamers™ are most at ease when you don't address someone's ethnicity. If the Black person is basically a dark skinned White person. Non threatening, and definitely not allowed to acknowledge the fact that they're Black.


Eryth_HearthShadow

And the funny thing is that when you don't adress their ethnicity they will go on a rant about how "them being black is useless and doesn't bring anything to their story". So you can never win that argument, they always have a brain dead retort.


Cromanti

Yes, both are bad to the G*mer, but which one's worse? We need more data. Clearly we must flood our games with non-White characters (with varying degrees of plot-relevance to their ethnicities) until the G*mers can give us a consistent answer.


regretfulposts

RJ/ I just like it when they are happen to be black and it's not just their only personality. But I do wish they don't make black characters just cause, same with gay people. I hate when they make minorities just because almost as if real life minorities exist just because.


Meraline

But "just because" is why you have white characters. Why are they white? Cause. Why can't you give other groups the same reason lol


zer0degreez

/uj He re-jerked and is not being serious. /rj Real life minorities only exist because of political correctness


Meraline

Omg I didn't see the /RJ I'm sorry


Soran_Fyre

Funny story, I am finally playing Dragon Age Origins for the first time. The amount of parallels it has to human rights issues is incredible, I'm playing as a city elf and it's so on the nose that you're basically black right after slavery was abolished. The game deals with representation issues, it deals with racism, deals with sexism, deals with government being in complete control of people's bodies and lives, and I'm sure several more topics (I'm not that far in the game yet). And this is the game I've heard "Gamers" heap praise upon while bashing modern games for "having an agenda". Like seriously?! What game did they play, this game is one of the most "woke" I've played! All that to say, I'm loving Dragon Age Origins, and games have ALWAYS had a message to share, people just didn't see it or ignored it.


loyaltomyself

/uj Because when it's a fantasy race like an Elf, it's easy to ignore the real world allegory. You see it a lot with the Witcher and its community too.


elizabnthe

They generally hold both contradictory views which is a way of saying they actually don't want any black or minority characters at all. E.g. "They can't be obviously gay, that's forced. But also if it's not obvious they might as well be straight". or "You can't make it about racism because that's forced. But if there isn't any difference they didn't come about the decision for creative purposes so they should be white"


Death_Is_Overrated

The modern gamer has ruined videogames far more than any developer or company ever could


Shinymegafarfetchd

gamergate and the anti woke frenzy it started was actualy so loud it genuinly affected the industry for the worse, and i really fucking hate them for that. fuck em rightwing nutcases


Wilwheatonfan87

I mean the FBI was being warned about this up to a decade beforehand about Stormfront turning to online gaming to radicalize new generations.


WhyLisaWhy

Anyone using this site regularly could see it coming a mile away. They got a bad reputation because they often over reacted but Shit Reddit Says was calling them out and warning people like ten years ago. Fast forward to 2020 and we know for a fact that people like Steve Bannon were purposely recruiting young white males that were in to gamergate. What a huge fucking surprise.


Wilwheatonfan87

I miss srs. What happened to it?


bigredlittleblue

The FBI doesn’t treat white supremacists as a threat because they’re on the same team


my-time-has-odor

ooh, nice.


SnoodDood

And when they do, it's a cover for tightening up surveillance on EVERYONE


Kaarl_Mills

Some of those that work forces


ThatGuyWhoLikesSpace

Ah, the good ol "Don't shoot your comrades!"


StrictlyBrowsing

There’s no defense for the FBI ignoring then downplaying the threat of white supremacy for so long, especially when the similar in nature threat of Islamic terrorism was clearly being treated infinitely more seriously despite lower overall risk. However, it’s important not to go overboard and spread misinformation about the FBI. They have explicitly called white supremacy the biggest domestic threat currently facing the United States several times over recently and have been making active efforts to combat it. It’s important that people report problematic behaviours to the FBI and collaborate rather than avoid them because they’re “on the same team”. This could save lives.


Sincost121

Lmao, the FBI was a part of cointelpro and helped in the murder of fred hampton, whatever they call themselves or others, they are, as a part of US law enforcement, an integral part of America's history and ongoing status quo as a white supremacists nation.


starsaisy

unfortunately they’re also the only ones who take hate crimes seriously, at least more seriously than cops and they’re much more likely to report it and record it as a hate crime, which improves stats. since cops are more likely to lie about hate crimes to lower the stats. (for anyone wondering you have to call your local FBI office or look up the hate crime telephone number for your local FBI office if you need to report it, it’s more likely you’ll receive any justice if at all.)


Papaofmonsters

Yes, but at the same time that was happening the FBI was the only agency going after the KKK in the south. They were so persistent that at one point the head of the KKK declared they were at war with FBI.


Kaarl_Mills

Let's tell them the white supremacists are actually socialist, they'll hunt them down within a week


charliepatrick

Sucks to think that in general the reactionary nature of gamers has probably caused developers to take less risks and push the envelope less. The people at the top see how upset gamers get when anything different is implemented, so you can bet it extends past story and characters to gameplay and features


markyymark13

>Sucks to think that in general the reactionary nature of gamers has probably caused developers to take less risks and push the envelope less. Like how so many high profile games need to immediately come out and say 'We promise this game is not PoLiTiCaL' out of fear of being lambasted and boycotted by the right even in cases of a game having obvious political implications (*ehem Modern Warfare*). It's seriously becoming so tiresome now that devs feel like they're walking on eggshells and sacrificing creative freedom to appease a bunch of internet edge lords who have become such a large part of the gamer zeitgeist. Meanwhile Disco Elysium is over here questioning your moral and political ideology in the backdrop of a communist uprising and it's one of the best games I've played in years.


psychicprogrammer

TBF with these people you could claim bioshock isn't political and they would believe you.


demonicturtle

Hell we've seen with battlefield 2042 developers dodge the too political crowd by just saying they're not despite a ridiculous political setting, just don't show women and minorities for too many seconds in a trailer and you can dodge the gamers™ and have what content you want


Sothar

Anarcho-capitalism is such a dumb idea it can’t be political. It’s just fantasy.


psychicprogrammer

Rapture wasn'tancap, it was objectivist, slight difference. For starters actual politicians, with real power, follow it.


Sothar

So what’s the difference? If I recall my playthrough last year it was basically totally unchecked and unregulated markets with owners basically behaving like mafias running different parts of Rapture, and Andrew Ryan was basically a massive landlord?


DaemonNic

AnCaps have ideals, and think that the free market will more-or-less safely regulate itself somehow. Objectivism believes that ideals are a weakness you should shed for the sake of an idealized version of strength, and doesn't care about the collateral of an unregulated free market; the people killed by it didn't deserve to live because they weren't strong or smart enough. Yes, its nonsense. No, that doesn't matter, and has never mattered, because its not an ideology people subscribe to for logical reasons.


Sothar

Ahhh that reminds me of prosperity gospel. Thanks


psychicprogrammer

Objectivism thinks that a goverment is required to stop people murdering each other. Apart from that not much.


Sothar

I thought that was minarchism. They believe in an absolute minimum government that basically just enforces contract law and the NAP


[deleted]

TBF, one could distinguish between having political themes versus emphasizing contemporary political values. For instance, you can have a game with religious themes and imagery, that ultimately is not proselytizing the audience towards real-world religion, and wouldn't be a "religious game".


TheConqueror74

> even in cases of a game having obvious political implications (ehem Modern Warfare) To make it even dumber, the dev’s “this game isn’t political” statement was one of the dumbest fucking things I’ve ever heard. They said that the game wasn’t political because they weren’t making any specific comments about a current administration. It was the most half-assed “this isn’t political” statement either, and they clearly didn’t mean it. It was all just marketing BS.


coffeep00ps

Yeah I'm sure things like this have nothing to do with that either [https://kotaku.com/activision-blizzard-hires-former-trump-administration-m-1846579115](https://kotaku.com/activision-blizzard-hires-former-trump-administration-m-1846579115) >Today, Activision Blizzard announced the promotion of Blizzard chief commercial officer and the chief operating officer Armin Zerza to CFO of the whole company. What it did not announce to the public is that it has also hired a new chief administrative officer: former Donald Trump administration member Brian Bulatao. > >Activision Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick informed employees of the hiring in an email, which Kotaku has viewed. In it, Kotick emphasized Bulatao’s past as a military veteran and also referenced his most recent job, Under Secretary of State for Management at the U.S. Department of State, where he worked directly under Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, his longtime friend, business partner, and former West Point classmate and one of Trump’s most ardent allies. Prior to being nominated by Trump in 2018 and confirmed by the Senate in 2019, Bulatao was chief operating officer of the CIA.


A-Fellow-Gamer-96

I assume writing about modern warfare in this comment you have played the campaign? Well I’m sure you remember the mission “The Highway of Death” >!In this mission you are trying to take out The Wolf with a sniper rifle Hadir gave you.!< In the intro cutscene they state that the Russians bombed people trying to escape Urzikstan (aka Syria) fleeing down this long stretch of road, when in fact it was the Americans who did this. I also love how all of these games have the screen that says “this game was made by people of all backgrounds, religious beliefs, blah blah blah”


TheKingofHats007

This is why I will forever hold Disco Elysium as the greatest game ever made. Do I always agree with its politics, no, but what’s the problem with that? At least they had the balls to actually make a story and world so deeply politically woven that it actually can lead to conversations about what the right courses of action are. It’s unapologetically brimming with a ton of political views and opinions and I can’t respect it enough.


About60Platypi

Is it on ps4?


TheKingofHats007

Yes, it came to PS4 recently when they added voice acting and some other stuff.


MillardKillmoore

Gamergate was a symptom and not a cause. Gaming communities were already insanely toxic misogynist hellholes for years beforehand.


sparty1227

Gamer gate affected wayyyyyyy more than just the games industry. It’s the largest thing that happened that made space for the rise of the internet Alt-Right and very possibly the Trump presidency


killisle

Yeah its insane but all of the early alt-right celebrities cut their teeth on gamergate, and then pushed it into anti-sjw culture and finally electing Trump. Pretty fucking crazy really.


my-time-has-odor

*am developer, can confirm* \- Unity Dev


Snake_eyes_12

Yeah I don't think that Half-Life 3 game that lord Gayben promised us 15 years ago is coming out anytime soon.


slippingparadox

throw a bunch of nerds in a basement and let them communicate through wires what did you expect


RawrRawr83

Yes… I was an og gamer on Xbox connect and stopped after Xbox 360/ps2. Things got too toxic. I see all this twitch drama stuff and looks like it’s gotten so much worse


Fadoucheiarie

Gamergate ruined game culture for at least a generation.


Samaritan_978

If bloody gamergate brings about the fall of democracy and western civilization I'll fucking choke a bitch.


zipfour

Mfw video game journalists get too woke so I elect a fascist to run my country into the ground


CoolDude1564

Here we elected a fascist to run the country into the ground because there were too many gay people kissing on TV.


RedDudeMango

I hate that I knew immediately it was Brazil. It's astounding to me that Bolsonaro went from being featured in a British program years ago about the world's most homophobic politicians to now being in charge, and now it seems like the world is content to act like the whole homophobia thing isn't important or something.


LinkBetweenGames

Ah yes, hating women like a true Gamer.


Samaritan_978

Why yes, I hate politics in my cold war sim, how could you tell.


OperativeTracer

"Choke me harder daddy!"


yetusthefeetus

Son?


SgtPeppy

I feel like that would be pretty on-brand for humanity though.


MrNullsky

If gamer hate brings the fall of democracy and western civilization I will fucking celebrate


EscapeFromCorona

Lol this guy thinks we live in a democracy


smut_butler

We live in a society.


FrancisBitter

✊✊✊😔😔😔


MrTuddles

Just wait until it’s actually revealed that she’s Johnson’s daughter or something. Smooth brain gamers will suddenly love her.


Queef-Elizabeth

I fear the opposite is going to happen and they'll find reasons to hate her for replacing him. I hope I'm wrong but I've seen Gamers find worse things to complain about.


ZipWafflechunks

It's confirmed that he has sec in the books so it's not far off


EscapeFromCorona

Of course he does, he knows what the ladies like


RimeSkeem

Oo-rah!


drunkbeforecoup

Uj doesn't Johnson have partial spartan training and doesn't that shit make them sterile or am I projecting space marines again?


DaemonNic

Its not really established. As a SPARTAN-1, he isn't as augmented to hell as 2s and 3s, which is where a lot of the 'we replaced your reproductive organs with tech!' stuff started happening, as working with kids somehow made implantation rejection less common. He's got some tech, but he doesn't weight a ton even out of armor. Side note, 'easier to aug kids' is still my least favorite sci-fi trope; doing medical science to kids is actually way harder because, it turns out, the little fuckers actually just die a lot easier than their adult counterparts. Puberty and the rapid onset of unpredictable changes should make it harder than working with a more complete frame.


8BitEgg

At least they got over it with Spartan-4s. (I think. I didn't know anything about Halo until a year ago, so I could be wrong.)


DaemonNic

They did, SPARTAN-4s are all adults, many of them former service members pre-augmentation who were selected because of their service record, and all of them are volunteers. Fourth time's the charm I guess. Halsey regards them as less professional for this, as they have mature human emotions instead of being emotionally broken child soldiers unable to relate to humanity, because she's kinda a terrible person.


JITTERdUdE

Halsey is low key a horrible and disgusting human being. She was the brains behind the Spartan program which was to literally abduct children, traumatize them until they forget about their original families, and then turn them into vicious killing machines. And this was all pre-Covenant- those kids had their lives fucked up because the UNSC wanted to create super-soldiers to crack down on insurrectionist movements; there are some overtly fascist elements within the origins of the Spartan program. I don’t think the writers intended this, but it makes sense she’d see the success of the Spartan IV program and try to dismiss it as being weaker. It’s her way of psychologically deflecting any guilt or shame she could develop over the many lives she destroyed to create a race of counter-terror super soldiers, most of whom ended up dying either from augmentations or combat. And not just the Spartans too, but their original families who had their children flash cloned only to be engineered to die at early age to cover any tracks that showed the original children had been abducted. tl;dr Halsey is a piece of shit


drunkbeforecoup

Personally I really dislike the 4s for that reason, like Spartans were always good shorthand for the awful shit the UNSC does but with the 4s they can just slap augments onto an existing soldier.


JITTERdUdE

It is lazier writing for the most part, but it’s still arguably a more ethical program capable of producing the same results as the Spartan II’s and III’s.


drunkbeforecoup

I think turning kids into super soldiers can make sense because they are easier to indoctrinate and I will accept that stopping them from going through regular puberty might help but doing the actual science on them is just dumb. Like in warhammer they turn children into space marines but the technology for that has also been used for thousands of years and is pretty proven to work.


Warriorjrd

Johnson is a spartan 1, which was before all the kidnapping and shit. I only think 2s and 3s are sterile, could be wrong though.


THEW0NDERW0MBAT

He actually ejaculates prematurely in the book. So he's overcome his condition to learn what the ladies like, or lies because of his sexual insecurity.


DapperCrow84

They will just claim that she is a SJW Mary Sue.


51LOKLE

Dude, are you really an Epic Gamer™?


MrTuddles

Yeah. I hate women *and* minorities 😎.


51LOKLE

MFW I hate politicals : 😎😎😎😎


[deleted]

Just like everyone suddenly loved Rey when she was revealed as Palpatine's granddaughter...


69420bruhfunny69420

We all know women can’t be in the military (please do not google about this and prove me wrong by sending me pics of military women)


BrockStudly

Broke: Hating powerful women Woke: saying women can't be in the military so people send pics of military women because you have a humiliation fetish and a powerful women fetish and this satisfies both


DrZoidberg26

That would be so weird. Super weird. Haha it would be funny if you guys sent me these sexy military ladies as well. Just cuz it’s weird though.


TVR24

I refuse to believe military ladies exist until I have AT LEAST a dozen pictures.


Tinfoilpain

what if we made dismantling social hierarchies a kink?


deathray5

Pweese can we hwire an awditory comwission to dismwantle systwemic wasiscm in the powice uwu


velvetdolphin101

(and definitely don't put them here as well so more people can be proved wrong)


urmumgay69lol

And we all know women can't be strong & muscular (please do not google about this and prove me wrong by sending pictures of muscular women that could break my spine like a twig)


Loop_Within_A_Loop

(unless they're IDF members who make my pp hard)


bebasw

Gamergate and it’s consequences have been a disaster for the human race


CuddleTeamCatboy

Gamergate moment


Aeterna117

uj/ I am extremely shocked because I have yet to see anyone whining about the new commander. It’s kinda weird to see gamers just enjoying the new content and being excited, especially Halo fans lmao


OperativeTracer

I feel like Halo has always been more open than other game series like COD. I mean, they even had female Marines since Halo 2, and a important female character in HALO: ODST. Not to mention Johnson being a black character. Call of Duty has struggled to have ANY female characters, or even black characters. It's almost always been a "Men with dark and edgy thoughts doing the wrong things for the greater good" bullshit. Halo has always been more progressive than pretty much any other major FPS franchise, even if it appears to just be "HAHA MILITARY GOES BRRRR" shooter at first glance. They even had characters in the books and lore point out how the UNSC is actually a bad guy, but just happened to have the right forces to fight the Covenant.


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Redditisquiteamazing

You're asking a lot of a gamer to make them relate to physical fitness


GhostSierra117

How dar- well yeah allright, allright. Geez.


Zeekayo

Yeah, I've generally been a big fan of the 343 games but a small detail I've been sad to see missing in their games is how you could hear a lot of different accents amongst the Bungie-era marines. I hope we get something like that in Infinite and they don't all sound like *generic American soldier.*


Flyingscorpions

Weren't they all Australian in the first game?


AwesomeX121189

No there was def variety


xslater583

They’ve actually had female marines (albeit rare) since halo 1, the pilot at the end of the first mission is female and so is foehammer


Tinfoilpain

I don't think I cared about a single character from Halo besides foehammer - I genuinely felt sad when she died.


xslater583

What about Dustin Echoes?


Wi11owwo1f

I really love Halsey's whole storyline, but also I definitely didn't realize how insanely twisted and dark the Spartan-II program was when I was an eight year old reading the books lmao


J71919

COD could've done a lot better. Literally the third game (Finest Hour) that came out a year after COD 1 had both a Black and a female playable character. Then they just didn't do that again.


Tinfoilpain

I mean it's dumb to me that the discourse is still "I want halo 3 reskinned forever", but I guess that's not as shit as "I want to be violently racist"...


RamTeriGangaMaili

I want to try out Halo on Xbox after seeing the trailer for Infinite. But these damn shortages do not look like ending anytime soon.


Epsilon_Final_Mix

The books also had pretty important female characters too. Especially The Flood (the book adaptation of the first game), one of the marine contingent's officer's is a pretty major character that goes out like a badass. I need to go find my old copies to read them again, now that I think about it.


Ricochet5200

Same. I've been on r/Halo a lot over these past couple days, and the response to the new game is mostly positive. I haven't heard a single complaint about the new character.


Sharpiette

These comments are from YouTube, I made a [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk/comments/nzulpd/wow_a_strong_black_woman_they_had_to_make_it/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) with screenshots but it got removed


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Stopthelemurs

Yeah, when I saw this post I was surprised, because I haven't seen anyone say anything about her. I could have just missed it, though.


elizabnthe

If you go on Youtube the comments were filled with this stuff.


SIacktivist

r/gamingcirclejerk manufacturing outrage to circlejerk over? I'm shocked.


funmenjorities

honestly, most Gamers are more misogynistic than they are racist a lot of them are fine with Black characters as long as they're a lazy stereotype, or if they act white - but they won't accept any women except as sex objects also stuff like GTA having an almost all Black cast and protagonist one time helped a lot, many huge franchises have had playable Black men but no women at all Johnson isn't political to them because they can easily understand a Black man who is a 2D military personality because games have conditioned them to it


TacosAnonymous

I’m assuming him only being a sergeant and working up the enlisted ranks wasn’t an issue either. But what if he had been an admiral? I think they would have accepted that too. It’s really a problem with strong women in positions of power. The racism just glides in on the coat tails of their misogyny.


Ch33sus0405

Something I've noticed growing up is that there's a lot of men who I wouldn't guess are misogynistic at all, until they have a female boss. Something about a woman telling them what to do means they're an entitled, ruthless bitch who slept her way to the top despite acting exactly the same as a male boss.


funmenjorities

yep, as long as a man is in the position of power it usually slides unless he starts being Too Black™ then it's a problem this seems to exclude **unique** positions of power though, for example making a Black man a King in a game or something would definitely ignite them


TacosAnonymous

I can’t imagine what would happen if one became president…


Wilwheatonfan87

You don't remember GTA San Andreas having mods that make CJ and his friends/family albinos?


define_lesbian

reminds me of an old series on yt in gta:sa about the resident evil series? the main character was albert wesker and he was literally just whitened cj in cop clothing LMAO


NOT_an_ass-hole

the fuck


ElceeCiv

ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS FOLLOW THE DAMN STRAIN CJ


Aalmus

And GTA 5


Radiance969

The GTA Black cast were srereotypes. Not all Black men are "Gangsta" or "Ghetto".


funmenjorities

yes, that's exactly why I mentioned lazy stereotypes in my comment they were still playable Black characters though and I do think Rockstar making that choice influenced other developers to do the same


senorchumbles

I think they were trying to branch out from that stereotype with Franklin in GTA V but didn't really hit the mark.


ecnal89

Problem was the story abandoned him to focus on Trevor and Michael, so he ended feeling like an after thought.


Dynamight_not

non-american here, what's gamergate?


MisterAbbadon

I'm tempted not to tell you because I envy you, but on the other hand why shouldn't you suffer as we have. ​ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate\_controversy


Historyguy1

Probably the biggest online dumpster fire with real-life consequences.


TheKingofHats007

TLDR: A woman makes a game called Depression Quest, is treated favorably. 4Chan begins the rumor that she slept with a journalist to get good reviews and this sparks a fire that was full of rampant harassment, sexism, misogyny, doxing, and a bunch of other shitty things, all under the very thin guise of “restoring ethics in game journalism”. This basically translated to “if journalists enjoy anything we deem as bad (because of “woke culture”), we have the right to harass them as we wish.” The movement eventually gave way to 8chan, the even worse 4chan, and is likely one of the prevailing factors that eventually gives way to Qanon.


Avent

Wow you can probably draw a direct line from Depression Quest to the 1/6 insurrection. Isn't life interesting?


Qyark

> slept with a journalist to get good reviews Funny thing is the guy she was accused of sleeping with didn't even review it


elizabnthe

I believe he like included it in a list or something of recommended games and that's it. The whole thing was created by a bitter ex of hers.


RamTeriGangaMaili

When Epic Gamers epically trolled all politicals online by sending them death threats, and releasing all their personal info online. Yeah 😎


SteeMonkey

It was about ethics in game journalism and doxxing women in the gaming industry and threat to rape and / or kill them


OperativeTracer

I feel like Halo has always been more open than other game series like COD.I mean, they even had female Marines since Halo 2, and a important female character in HALO: ODST. Not to mention Johnson being a black character. Call of Duty has struggled to have ANY female characters, or even black characters. It's almost always been a "Men with dark and edgy thoughts doing the wrong things for the greater good" bullshit. Halo has always been more progressive than pretty much any other major FPS franchise, even if it appears to just be "HAHA MILITARY GOES BRRRR" shooter at first glance. They even had characters in the books and lore point out how the UNSC is actually a bad guy, but just happened to have the right forces to fight the Covenant.


JackCloudie

Ehhh. ONI was more the bad guy, and the UNSC its weapons, but that's tomato/tomahto really. I agree that the Halo series has a surprisingly diverse cast. It makes the characters seem a lot more real within the setting.


HydroponicGirrafe

Uj/ I haven’t seen anyone complain about her, are there actually people? Rj/ uh, woman bad


-Eastwood-

Yeah I haven't seen any either. Oddly enough, the majority of the Halo community seems to agree that Halo Infinite looks awesome. I'm extremely excited for this game.


HydroponicGirrafe

Same, the multiplayer reveal had me fucking diamonds


RovingChinchilla

For all the weird, military propaganda and fascist apologetics in Halo it has always been quite diverse from day one. Pretty much like Starship Troopers. Although I'm pretty sure the reason #GAMERZ love Johnson is because he's more of a one liner spouting cliche than a fully fleshed out character


OperativeTracer

"I know just what the Gamers like." \-Sgt. Johnson cocking a gun


Wilwheatonfan87

They did Johnson dirty by killing him off in 3. I think there's an unnamed Aussie soldier who appears in Halo 1-4.


zetahood343

Unnamed? That's chips dubbo to you, you heathen


DaemonNic

It was very much a, "Well, we're wrapping up the franchise, so everyone gets to die or get shoved into a box!" moment.


ecnal89

Yeah, Miranda Keyes death was even worse imo.


DaemonNic

At least Johnson went out with a bang. Keyes just died being really stupid.


Wilwheatonfan87

God. They also did her dirty.


Wilwheatonfan87

If they only knew.


B-WingPilot

> Pretty much like Starship Troopers. Wake me up when the next Halo has a shower scene.


thorppeed

What do you mean by "all the weird, military propaganda and fascist apologetics"?


RovingChinchilla

Halo loves portraying military figures as noble, mythic heroes and generally has a very positive view of military service (which is also why you'll find a lot of veterans and active soldiers identify so strongly with the iconography). Spartans in particular are depicted as the epitome of cool, stoic professionalism (at least in the earlier games and funnily enough some fans got mad when they introduced newer generations who have more open personalities) and venerated both in and out of the universe, which is weird once you start learning about the lore and how they were initially child slave soldiers who have been brainwashed into obedience and were explicitly created by a shadowy, dystopian, fascist intelligence agency to quell human insurrectionists rebelling against a hyper-capitalist, hyper militarised central government. Not to mention the whole weird eugenics "let's create the übermensch next step in human evolution" thing that the leading scientist behind the Spartan has going on


LordDuckmond

/uj It seems that 9/11 and the subsequent War on Terror defined Halo as a franchise, at least with it's tropes about "good empire vs bad empire".


Epsilon_Final_Mix

You take that back about Johnson, he's a well fleshed out, complex hero!... If you read the books, that is.


Cows-lol

We’re going backwards in time


imbirus

I literally havent seen anyone complain about that woman


Automatic_Animal

Bro you always knew it was gonna be hype when you had a black guy in command. Mans had a voice that'd make you say 'YES SIR" before he told you what you were supposed to


Michael003012

Where can I buy the left shirt?


GlyphUnderscore

[https://www.amazon.com/Gamer-Making-Extremely-Girls-Shirt/dp/B08CDH5V9N](https://www.amazon.com/Gamer-Making-Extremely-Girls-Shirt/dp/B08CDH5V9N) it's wh\*te but still


themiracy

Oh my gosh. It can be customized. How precious.


MisterAbbadon

"Commander Keyes? Yeah she's really cool I loved her role in the campaign."


ToastyRotzy

Wait are people actually upset about this?


Dvelasquera171

Not at all from what I’ve seen on r/halo


Sharpiette

[Look at the post I made (removed) about these comments with screenshots](https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk/comments/nzulpd/wow_a_strong_black_woman_they_had_to_make_it/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


[deleted]

uj/ If Samus was revealed as a girl today, imagine the outrage. rj/ I can't believe they made Metroid political.


dhrcj_404

Meh, r/halo is pretty chill with her. Everyone seems to be liking her.


Sharpiette

I know ;). I found this type of comments on YouTube.


Radiance969

Gamers always been racists. They like a Black male character as long as he's a lazy ass stereotype.


SvenTheHunter

Gamergate and it's consequences have been a disaster for the gaming community


dappernaut77

well this is just false, women don't exist.


marniconuke

I moderate a discord that include my friends and a bunch of randoms we invite from games. Today i deleted a meme crying about wesker being black and i shit you not i got called a dictator, i'm waiting for the 1984 memes.


InitialDTrump

Uj/ I haven't seen anyone complain about this. I know its a circle jerk sub, but I think we are making this "proto-mysonist-racist-gamer" up in our heads. I'm all for a hearty laugh but let's make sure this person actually exists? Maybe a couple weirdos on the internet said something, but are we gonna paint all of r/halo and r/gaming like that? I wouldn't say that's fair to anybody. But then again its a circle jerk sub so idk.


apricotscarf

Someone in this very thread has brought up a “political agenda shoved down their throat”


SpinkickFolly

Maybe, but this 100% applies to r/battlefields reaction to the new BF2042 reveal finding out some specialist are women when all they want to do is play as a "normal medic".


Kyle_Josef

Same, it mostly has been positive reviews even in places such as Twitter and YouTube, dont know what this subs problem is...


maintain_improvement

Where can i buy that shirt?


amisia-insomnia

She looks like a young ikora from destiny


LuxoJr86

Please tell me that shirt on the left is real


lildeathgrips

GO HUBIE GO HUBIE GO HUBIE!!!!


mr-musk

Sergeant Johnson is the best character in all of halo


Dejan05

Wait until they hear about Bangalore and Lifeline from apex Edit: didn't even mention the lgbtqia+ legends so may as well add Gibraltar,Valkyrie,Bloodhound,Fuse,Loba (and maybe Mirage)


IBurritoBandito

Is there a sub for people like this


marniconuke

yes r/gaming


TNTiger_

No u don't see smh Black character: Fine Wahmen character: Ok Black Wahman character: Woke identity politique forced diversity, no such thing exists irl smh it's so unrealistic


tarunyadav6

but muh vidya games 🙄😐😠😠😡


[deleted]

Has anyone said this about infinite?


Darth-Artichoke

/uj is anyone actually upset about this?


Wepmajoe

No. This sub spends more time yelling at strawmen than any other subreddit I've seen.


Paris_Who

You got any links to people complaining? I want to see their tears


Alertrobotdude

In the future, someone will make a racist comment and someone else will say "Bro please, you're talking like you're from 2021" And I'm like I'm from then People are like that now That makes me sad