Is the Outer Worlds worth it at this price if you dont get any of the DLC?


I really enjoyed this game. It's no Fallout/Skyrim, but it's a pretty good semi-open world RPG. I think the quests are really well done, and the fact that your followers actually have stories and interact with you about things is far better than the other games I mentioned. You don't just do a quest for them and then they shoot stuff for you forever without any mention of their life again. The world is empty...to some extent. The NPCs you interact with are very very well done, but the filler NPCs in towns and scattered around the world are basically the lowest level AI I've ever seen. So when you're in a town the world doesn't feel typical RPG "alive". Each planet to you go to is basically a tiny open world map. So while it is open world, you have to keep going to different areas to continue to experience that feeling (which can be tedious for some). However, the game lets you play it however you want. Want to be a pacifist? You can absolutely do that with no catches. You can choose any way you could think of to play the game and it will be viable. It doesn't pretend to allow all types of gameplay, just to shoehorn you into another style. There's always multiple ways of accomplishing whatever you want to do in the game. Plus the libertarian dystopia theme is hilarious and concerning at the same time. I think it catches a lot of flak because people compare it to Fallout/Skyrim and it is just not as high a budget game. There's a lot of things you experience in the world where if the devs had like another year to develop the game would be perfect, but they didn't. Overall, I like the game and think it's worth the price. I had someone do a similar write up for me during last years summer sale and I bought it with no regrets. If you do end up buying it let me know how you like it when you get to playing it.


I had more than enough of the game without any DLC. Enjoyed it, but very glad it didn't last any longer. Regarding whether it's worth it at this price, I find it hard to justify when you can play it on Game Pass instead.


Unfortunately game pass stopped working and MS couldn't find a fix.


The base game I would say is mediocre. I found the dlc to be more enjoyable.


Played it on PC Game Pass for the base-game and thought it was really good there. I haven't played he DLC's though.


I think the Outer Worlds is pretty underrated at this point. The storytelling and dialogue are great, with some really quirky and fun Obsidian (New Vegas) humor throughout. All aspects of the combat are underwhelming (except there are unique "science weapons" that make things fun) but if you like your RPGs to be RPGs I think it's well worth your time.


I know I'm late to the party but man, hades is so good. Every weapon is fun and the boons really change how you play them. It's the perfect mix of rogue like and progression for me. I get bored of most orguelikes pretty quickly when I get frustrated but there's enough tools in hades that I don't feel frustrated, just challenged.


Not to nitpick but if you want to get technical Hades is considered a "Rogue Lite" because of how much carries over from one run to the next (resources, Mirror of Night abilities, weapon unlocks, etc). So if you like Hades and want more like it you might want to tweak that and look for other Rogue Lites.


I enjoy lites so much more. I always feel like I'm progressing, even when I'm not.


To nitpick your nitpick, the line between -likes and -lites is more than just metaprogression — real-time vs. turn-based can be another major differentiator, for example. Generally speaking, roguelikes strictly adhere to all or nearly all of [the Berlin Interpretation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roguelike#Key_features) while roguelites typically stray from it on several points. Language is notoriously resistant to top-down influences though so I usually say that only people who genuinely care about it should bother making an effort to use the right term. If you're one of them though (I am too!) more power to ya.


I HATE HATE HATE this fucking argument. This is simply not the way it's used by gamers nowadays. Do you have any idea how popular this genre has gotten in the last 3 years? It's no longer about the Berlin Interpretation at all so stop bringing it up. The terms evolved, as things stand roguelite=metaprogression while roguelike=no meta progression. That's it, that's how everyone uses these terms. No one gives a shit about your "correct terms".


I agree with you, this is the argument made me stop reading about these types of games entirely. Not worth reading how "this is not a rogue lite" or whatever on every single thread.


I mean ok, cool, that's one opinion and no doubt holds true in your gaming circle. I've heard a similar position that procedural generation is the defining characteristic of roguelites. Also have you thought about drinking a little less coffee maybe? I mean, it's not like this is the Oxford comma we're talking about.


That's really interesting! I didn't realize there was that degree of specificity and granularity to the distinction. Mostly I wanted to point out the difference(s) because I myself get very frustrated with the more "extreme" Rogue-likes but absolutely adore a number of Rogue-lites - or at least, games I would have put in those boxes. For example I rage quit Spelunky but have many dozens of hours in Dead Cells and Hades. The one exception seems to be Binding of Isaac. It seems to qualify as a Roguelike and I have over 2000 hours in that one, so I guess it does it for me. Then again I'm a sucker for many things themed around Christian mythology so maybe that's the difference. Edit: Well nevermind, apparently based on common consensus neither Spelunky nor BOI are considered Roguelikes. All my preconceptions go out the window!


The weapons really made it for me. I had favourites, but even the ones I didn't fancy, i could always build towards a style that fit me


Any recommendations for some solid indie horror (or just horror) games?


[Nightmare of Decay](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1848450/Nightmare_of_Decay/) [The Heilwald Loophole](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1697720/The_Heilwald_Loophole/) [I'm on Observation Duty](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1046820/Im_on_Observation_Duty/) [Iron Lung](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1846170/Iron_Lung/) [Mother](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1381980/MOTHER/) [Love, Sam](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1073820/Love_Sam/) [Darkwood](https://store.steampowered.com/app/274520/Darkwood/) [Detention](https://store.steampowered.com/app/555220/Detention/) [Fears to Fathom](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671340/Fears_to_Fathom__Home_Alone/) (episodic, first ep is free and second one is a few bucks)


Darkwood is one of the best horror games of the past decade, easily. Insane atmosphere and some really great art and sound design!


+1 for Love, Sam, it's fantastic.


Probably the scariest one on the list. Shit-your-pants worthy at times.


Iron Lung was great! Definitely recommend


Well, not that much indie but... * [Alien Isolation](https://store.steampowered.com/app/214490/Alien_Isolation/) * [Evil Within](https://store.steampowered.com/agecheck/app/268050/) * [SOMA](https://store.steampowered.com/app/282140/SOMA/) * [Prey](https://store.steampowered.com/app/480490/Prey/) * [Bioshock](https://store.steampowered.com/app/7670/BioShock/) * [Dead Space](https://store.steampowered.com/app/17470/Dead_Space/) * [Subnautica](https://store.steampowered.com/app/264710/Subnautica/) * [Limbo](https://store.steampowered.com/app/48000/LIMBO/) * [Inside](https://store.steampowered.com/app/304430/INSIDE/) * [Little Nightmares](https://store.steampowered.com/app/424840/Little_Nightmares/) * [Zombie Night Terror](https://store.steampowered.com/app/416680/Zombie_Night_Terror/) * [Carrion](https://store.steampowered.com/app/953490/CARRION/) * [Observation](https://store.steampowered.com/app/906100/Observation/) * [We went back](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1218250/We_Went_Back/) * [A Plague Tale: Innocence](https://store.steampowered.com/app/752590/A_Plague_Tale_Innocence/)


Prey, Bioshock, APT: Innocence, and Dead Space all are awesome. I also loved Dead Space 2.


Soma and Dagon




[Amnesia: The Dark Descent](https://store.steampowered.com/app/57300/Amnesia_The_Dark_Descent/) is a masterpiece of the horror/puzzle genre. Amnesia: Rebirth is pretty good too. I probably wouldn't bother with Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs--there just isn't much gameplay in it, and it's more of a walking simulator. [Lethe - Episode One](https://store.steampowered.com/app/407780/Lethe__Episode_One/) is another great horror/puzzle game, though it's kind of short and it doesn't look like there will ever be an "episode two." [Layers of Fear](https://store.steampowered.com/app/391720/Layers_of_Fear_2016/) is pretty solid, and so is its DLC.


SOMA is a must play, I promise


Doom 3


Dread X collections seem to be a hidden value buy IMO. You get about 10 horror games each collection.


So these are the games I'm looking at purchasing, I was wondering if anyone else could recommend some in the relatively obvious genre I enjoy (open world exploration): - Both Subnauticas - No Man's Sky - Bloons TD6 (this is the odd man out) - Disco Elysium


Just got into Disco Elysium recently. It's a really neat game that was slightly overwhelming for an RPG noob like me, but I caught on to the mechanics pretty quickly. You've never played anything like it before--I can guarantee that. Definitely recommend.


It reminds me a ton of Planescape: Torment (PST). If you haven't played that and you loved Disco, go buy that ASAP. Story, prose ,writing, choices, and all of that stuff's fantastic in Disco and PST.


Have you played Divinity Original Sin 1? How would you rank the narrative against Disco and PST if you have?


Divinity OS 1/2 don't even begin to compare to disco narratively. I loved divinity OS 2 but I'll be the first one to admit it's basically entirely because the combat is incredible, the modding scene is great, and these carry a game that's got a pretty weak narrative that basically collapses in act 3. I would highly recommend at least DOS 2 (Which is IMO an improvement over 1 in every way), but not if you're the kind of person who plays RPGs solely for their narrative. In comparison, Disco Elysium has the best writing I've ever seen in a video game. Divinity and DE may as well be entirely different genres, there's absolutely no similarity between them besides them both having conversations that let you pick dialogue options.


>Have you played Divinity Original Sin 1? How would you rank the narrative against Disco and PST if you have? I played PST when it came out and I absolutely loved Disco Elysium but never managed to get into DOS. The combat became too repetitive quickly and I didn't like the tongue in cheek writing style. I abandoned after quite a while. DE is a masterpiece in comparison (but there is no combat), an experience that will remain with you forever. You must help build 0.00001% of communism!


Div: OS 1 is backlogged. Played a little bit and liked it - but, it just speaks to me as a huge game. I'm gonna have to be in real serious 100-200 hours tackling type of game for that.


I can't quite answer your question, but I **highly recommend** Divinity: Original Sin 2 if you haven't already played it. The writing, voice acting, UI and overall gameplay are all WAY better in DOS2 than DOS1.


I haven't played 2 yet. I somehow own 1 and wanted to play it for the story, but to me it seems lacking. If 2 has a better story I could be down.


110%. My friends and I played DOS2 before DOS1. 2 is wayyyyyy better. We only started playing DOS1 as a way to curb our need for more DOS2 after finishing it. DOS1 just feels like an unfinished finished beta.


I started playing Disco Elysium, and as a total RPG noob it is indeed overwhelming, especially the amount of text! My ADHD certainly doesn't help on the patience side as well, as I find it hard to focus and enjoy the story. Hopefully I'll get back to it soon!


id highly suggest subnautica, its absolutely beautiful and a great game


abzu and journey are absolutely amazing for exploring! the soundtrack and visuals are beautiful


Subnautica is imo the holy grail. The second one is a bit shorter and less good, but still good. In case of other, kinda similar, games * [Outer Wilds](https://store.steampowered.com/app/753640/Outer_Wilds/) * [Breathedge](https://store.steampowered.com/app/738520/Breathedge/) * [The Forest](https://store.steampowered.com/app/242760/The_Forest/) * [Grounded](https://store.steampowered.com/app/962130/Grounded/)


Wait Subnautica ends? I kinda just assumed it was a sandbox building/survival game. Will finishing the story end the game? If so, can I just ignore the story lol?


Both have definite endings you can't continue past, but they're telegraphed pretty well and can be put off for as long as you like.


I'm pretty sure you can continue playing the game even after completing the story but you could also just ignore the story and play entirely for survival/building although you'll definitely stumble onto some story sequences unintentionally eventually.


Yes, both have a story to tell and you can finish both games with a definite ending. For both it is also pretty obvious when you might reach the point of no return. So if you rather want to improve your base building and item hoarding, you can delay the ending as you see fit.


I just finished Subnautica after pouring 40+ hours into it and immediately downloaded Below Zero because I wasn't sick of it yet. The first one had some bugs but nothing game breaking (for me anyway). Second one is great so far, if a bit chattier than the first.


Subnautica is great. Disco Elysium is a masterpiece (but be prepared to read a lot - even with voiced dialog, be prepared to listen to a _lot_ of dialog). No Man's Sky I tried on Gamepass and personally found it rather dull.


Disco is fantastic; and so is Planescape: Torment. If you're into writing, prose, descriptive, character development, plot-development, decision-making that matters, and book-like type of stuff - these games definitely excel at that.


Outer Wilds is also on Game Pass, so is its misnomer The Outer Worlds.


DE is far, far, FAR from a masterpiece. It's amateurish, sloppy, and isn't even a game. It's horribly written too, absolutely garbage writing.


Satisfactory. I spent so much time exploring the massive map looking for ore and other things. It's a factory building game, but very relaxed. HZD is a fantastic open world game IMO, of course it has a linear story but it is tons of fun to explore and find new things.


If you've played Breath of the Wild before (and like it), try looking at Sable.


Don't worry about Below Zero get the original Subnautica. The first one is a real adventure where exploring is beneficial and the world will scare you. Below Zero is basically them just taking a stab at doing a fleshed-out story. No man's Sky is a definite get, I can't comment on the last two as I haven't played them.


Disco is fantastic. If you loved Planescape Torment, you need to play this ASAP.


FYI, No Man's Sky is on Game Pass


I've been thinking of getting sea of thieves but I would be playing solo, is it worth it or what other games u recommend? Doesn't have to be similar to sea of thieves, I'm honestly down for any type of game I do tend to enjoy competitive fps although I believe I have most if not all the current ones


Sea of thieves is a great game, you can use a solo sloop... And have fun but your at a severe disadvantage. Also, the core game mechanic is leveling up, but once you reach max it's like hitting a brick wall in motivation to load it up again. (so think it's best with friends, sadly) If you enjoy competitive fps... Well heard good things about hell let loose and will always recommended Holdfast:Nations at war for the memes... It's also so very cheap and is my go to when I am bored and want a sense of comradery. (frontlines WW1 and nations at war Napoleonic)


Thx for the recommendations I might look into holdfast, I've seen some gameplay and it looks like a nice game to mess around in lol


I am transitioning more to single player games at the moment, though I have always played them some, but more lately. So far this sale I have bought the: * Batman trilogy * Dragon's Dogma * Resident Evil 1 remake * Titanfall 2(already beat it and loved it) My cart presently has these games, though I am bouncing around on if I want them for sure: * Sleeping Dogs(beat it years back and loved it) * Dishonored DLC * Prey & Dishonored 2 bundle * Deus Ex:Human Revolution * Raccoon City Edition bundle * Yakuza 0 * Ryse: Son of Rome I obviously have different genres here, and I am trying to get the most bang for your buck with the bundles. It seems these games have high reviews, so any last minute items I should look to add or swap out? I know this is a broad question so more just looking for confirmation that these are good choices. FYI my wishlist still has 49 other games on it and I am thinking of adding Project Zomboid. Most of my gaming will be on the steam deck as well. Got it a month or so back and loving it. **Always willing to look at other games as well if someone thinks it might interest me.**


A Civilization game. I liked 4 and 5 a lot. Hades is great. Little Nightmares and Inside where great. Shadow of Mordor was fantastic. Minecraft has been great. All these I have played on the Steam Deck as well. Civilization and Minecraft required me to customize the controls to my liking, but some of the ones already made and shared were good as well. I plan on also playing other mouse and keyboard focused games on the deck because it works well.


Since you said Prey, Dishonored, etc, I would think Deathloop would be a logical choice. (btw, it's about $4 cheaper at IndieGala & Fanatical) I played Ryse Son of Rome years back. It's short, but I enjoyed it quite a bit. Deus Ex HR is outstanding, but the boss fights were a bit annoying. great game overall.


Think they went back in the director's cut for Deux Ex and gave non-combat ways to beat the bosses, but yeah they were definitely a thing on the harder difficulties.


> Raccoon City Edition bundle What exactly is this? I know it's Resident Evil but what does it include? Just asking because there's a Resident Evil game with a very similar name that's hot garbage (Operation Raccoon City). Stay away from that. Good picks otherwise.


Any recommendations for grindy games? I like games where I grind for levels, loot, materials, etc. Diablo 3, RuneScape, grim dawn, little wood - some grindy style games I like


Have you heard of Last Epoch which is another D3, GD type game. I have really been enjoying it.


Be careful with Path of Exile, it will consume your soul. You've been warned.


Monster Hunter. Kill big monster, use parts to make gear to kill bigger monster. Repeat. Monster Hunter World is the more difficult game of the two on PC and I found myself grinding more in that one. I have 1000 hours in it, so it's pretty good.


Disgaea series - turn based RPGs with off-beat humour. They are very much a love them or hate them sort of game, but if they click with you then they will satisfy your grinding urge for a long while. Siralim ultimate - collect creatures, merge them with each other and use groups of them to explore a near bottomless dungeon.


How about say looter-shooters like say Borderlands series and HG: London?


Torchlight 2


If you are into roguelikes try tales of majeyal.


Valheim, Path of Exile


V Rising Friend tries to push me into buying but I'm honestly scared of grinding the many bosses. :D


ark, no mans sky, and sea of thieves have some grindy aspects


Lost Ark sounds right up your alley


I played that for a few months after release actually. It was great until I hit a wall in tier 3 lol


Lost Ark is grindy but not grindy. Yes, you need tons of stuff to progress...but the game is like "nah my dude, you can only do that stuff once a week or twice a day" Huge disappointment imho. Unless you wanna do the same sh** on 14 different characters every day you will probably progress through the stuff that you can do per day within 1-2 hours And then you're starved out of action points or attempts to do something. That's like...mobile game level of "we tell you how much you can play each day". Simply killing monsters doesn't even do anything cause all the good stuff is dropped from raids that you can do once per week. But where as you can still do tons of other stuff like farming mats or dungeons in WoW, you only get proper rewards in LA like twice a day?


It's MMO grindy


Nah it's mobile game grindy Only other game that I can remember that limited me as heavily in farming was ArchAge and we all know how that ended. Not sure if Black Desert Online also limits *every* action like LA does In 99% of the MMOs you can still farm mats of any sort, level up trade skills or do anything to make you money or farm for something useful. Lost Ark even limits you how long you can use trade skills. Those 10k Action Points are burned through in like half an hour. And then you have to wait til it refills and a full refill is like 30 hours or so? Obviously you could use cash items to refill...but seriously? It's mobile level of scam. Wanna do an action? PAY FOR IT LOL Even the normal upgrade materials are locked behind restrictions. You can only do this 2x a day. Afterwards? No more loot LUL So again...unless you really wanna level up 14 characters to funnel all their mats into 1 char...you're boned in LA.


Are The Evil Within 1 or 2 any good? If so which one is the better game?


They are on game pass if you have that. Haven't played then myself.


Based on steam reviews the 2nd one is better at 93% but I already owned the first one so I grabbed 2 for $8. Should be worth it if you like Horror/Resident Evil games.


I don't actually play much horror, I was looking for a starting point. I mean, I played Dead Space but that's about it.


If you like Dead Space I think you'll enjoy The Evil Within 2.


I'm about to become a dad! ...and I realize I'm going to have to change the way I game. I'm pretty open-minded to anything. Please offer some suggestions for games I can enjoy between diaper changes :) I pre-ordered a Steam Deck (Q3). I have a PC, a laptop, and controllers. I've mostly enjoyed competitive and tactical shooters w/ MnK but I've enjoyed some single player experiences too (Fallout, Witcher, RDR2). Open to ANYTHING.


Transition away from multiplayer games and towards single player games you can quickly pick up and put down/walk away from. A blown out diaper and an exhausted significant other aren't going to wait for the end of a match with the boys. RPGs (that let you save anywhere) and Football Manager have been good for me. Might be a good time to dig up some emulators for older games that you can play on your Deck or phone, as well. *Edit*: I should add, congratulations, friend, and welcome to the club!


Facts. It's this or I retire from games for a bit. Hoping the Steam Deck makes gaming a bit more feasible.


That's definitely an option. May or may not be necessary, depending on how you and your SO are handling things, imo.


As a fellow dad with a Steam Deck, I can absolutely say you are making the right call. It is the best device ever to just pick up and play, and the second your kid is up from a nap or needs you, you can easily power down and go help out. Whenever you are ready, it powers back up exactly where you left off. As others have said, single player games where you can just pause are the best option.


Agree with this advice completely


I played _a lot_ of Football Manager back when my daughter was just a baby. In addition to games you can put down at any time, look for games you can play with one hand while you are holding a sleeping baby with the other. Twitch action games are probably off the menu for a while...


Football Manager might be a good one. I love football and have played Fifa religiously since the 90s. Do you recommend I wait for the next year's Football Manager edition? Similarly to Fifa, I hate dropping $20+ on an edition that's about to be phased out. Also, I'm curious how hard the text would be to read on a Steam Deck


A lot of users play on laptops, I suspect the spreadsheet overload of FM might not be the best on the Deck but I can't say for sure. I'm playing FM21, which Epic gave away for free. Maybe they'll do the same for 22 when 23 arrives. Keep an eye out! I'd say that if you're new to the series, starting with any version available to you is fine. It's a lot to learn no matter the year. Many of its systems can be automated if it looks overwhelming, and there is a healthy YT community with lots of great vids to get you started. So far I've spent more time watching them than playing, haha.


Slay the spire. It's a good game. You can steam link it to your phone. Can pick up and put down easily.


Monster Train as well. If you don't like slay, give this one a try. Only $7 or something too.


Love Slay the Spire. Great suggestion.


It's for sale on app store and Google play


It’s also available on mobile, no need to Steam link.


My recommendation every single time will be Stardew Valley. It's already a bit "older" by now but it's still one of the most fun games i've ever played. Just give in to the setting and you'll have helluva great time in it.


Turn based is really the way to go now. XCOM 1 and 2, darkest dungeon, I second slay the spire. Puzzle games like hexcells. Last one is really cheap to.


I'm thinking Hollow Knight, Terraria, Ori and the Blind Forest, Celeste, Doom, and Binding of Isaac.


Oooh these sound like a gateway into 1P games.


\+1 for Ori and the Blind Forest. You can save almost literally anywhere, it's a huge boon for the situation OP is in. And the game itself if freaking AMAZING of course. Edit: Actually these are all fantastic games, I was just commenting on Ori in particular because of how useful the save mechanic is.


Rimworld, Satisfactory, Riftbreaker


(copied from my older post--just updated with more games)--(i don't care about karma i just like sharing so many well priced gems i want more people to know about!) Welcome to the gold rush of roguelike/lite games brother! [https://store.steampowered.com/app/1966900/20\_Minutes\_Till\_Dawn/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1966900/20_Minutes_Till_Dawn/) [https://store.steampowered.com/app/252610/Death\_Road\_to\_Canada/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/252610/Death_Road_to_Canada/) [https://store.steampowered.com/app/1989560/Endless\_waves\_survival/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1989560/Endless_waves_survival/) [https://store.steampowered.com/app/1512480/Gunlocked/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1512480/Gunlocked/) [https://store.steampowered.com/app/788100/Neon\_Abyss/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/788100/Neon_Abyss/) [https://store.steampowered.com/app/1929870/Nomad\_Survival/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1929870/Nomad_Survival/) [https://store.steampowered.com/app/2024230/Project\_Lazarus/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/2024230/Project_Lazarus/) [https://store.steampowered.com/app/1914580/Spirit\_Hunters\_Infinite\_Horde/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1914580/Spirit_Hunters_Infinite_Horde/) [https://store.steampowered.com/app/1471410/SYNTHETIK\_2/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1471410/SYNTHETIK_2/) [https://store.steampowered.com/app/330020/Children\_of\_Morta/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/330020/Children_of_Morta/) [https://store.steampowered.com/app/262830/Crimsonland/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/262830/Crimsonland/) [https://store.steampowered.com/app/1794680/Vampire\_Survivors/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1794680/Vampire_Survivors/) oh my god the list keeps growing >\_> [https://store.steampowered.com/app/858210/Nova\_Drift/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/858210/Nova_Drift/) [https://store.steampowered.com/app/1147560/Skul\_The\_Hero\_Slayer/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1147560/Skul_The_Hero_Slayer/) [https://store.steampowered.com/app/1316800/Destropolis/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1316800/Destropolis/) [https://store.steampowered.com/app/311690/Enter\_the\_Gungeon/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/311690/Enter_the_Gungeon/) [https://store.steampowered.com/app/602700/Chippy/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/602700/Chippy/)


The Steam Deck is going to be great for you since you can press the power button in the middle of a game to suspend it and put the system into a sleep state, much like the Nintendo Switch can. As far as game recommendations, I highly recommend the following: Mass Effect Legendary Edition. It has a great story, compelling characters, good combat, and Mass Effect 2 in particular is widely regarded as one of the best games of all time. Your choices throughout the games affect future games. Outer Wilds (not to be confused with The Outer Worlds). This game is really unique, and it's best to go in blind, as exploration is a huge part of the game. You explore a very dynamic solar system where many planets change dramatically over time. Rogue Legacy 2. As the name suggests, it's a roguelite. You explore a castle using a variety of different classes and weapons, collecting gold as you go. Once you die, you can spend the gold to gain permanent upgrades or unlock new features and classes. The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe. You play as Stanley, walking around an office building as somebody narrates everything you do. There's not a lot to it gameplay-wise, but it's really funny, and 100% worth the experience. There are many different endings. Hotline Miami. It's a fast-paced arcade-style action game with an excellent soundtrack. And if you want more, there's a sequel (Hotline Miami 2), but I would definitely start with the first one. Good luck on gaming and dadding!


Also will vouch for Hotline Miami 1 and 2 and especially Mass Effect: Legendary. ME2 might be one of the best games ever made, up their w/ Deus Ex, Bioshock, Vampire: Bloodlines, and a few others I hold in super-high regards.


Not sure what works on the Steam Deck or doesn't - but you have a PC...so, some suggestions for that: Deus Ex Collection (Deus Ex 1: GOTY might be the best game ever, IMHO) - [https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/2355/The\_Deus\_Ex\_Collection/](https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/2355/The_Deus_Ex_Collection/) Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines (my fav. game of all time) - [https://store.steampowered.com/app/2600/Vampire\_The\_Masquerade\_\_Bloodlines/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/2600/Vampire_The_Masquerade__Bloodlines/) Prey: Digital Deluxe & Control: Ultimate BUNDLE (both games RULE): [https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/26642/Prey\_Digital\_Deluxe\_\_Control\_Ultimate\_Edition\_Bundle/](https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/26642/Prey_Digital_Deluxe__Control_Ultimate_Edition_Bundle/)


I downloaded Hades onto my Switch after my son was born and I really enjoyed it. He did not sleep well at all unless held, but we didn't want to fall asleep while holding him as that can potentially be dangerous. Hades was addicting enough to keep me awake while holding him so my wife could get some sleep.


Strategy games and management games are my jam! And pauseable games of course! Games like rimworld, civilization, stellaris and crusader kings are my usual go tos but rpgs like Witcher 3 and such are also easy to pause and save in a pinch!


I got nothing for you but a congratulations on becoming a Father!


Just wanted to also say congratulations. Its a wild ride but i wouldnt trade my two year old for anything in the universe.


Children like colourful games. They can sit and watch for hours how you play.


Bloons TD6 for quick catharsis and cute monkeys


I would do a wireless controller and set up your gaming computer on the TV. That way you can hold the baby in your lap and play games on the TV. The baby can just sleep in your lap while you play video games, and then pass them off to Mom when it's time for feeding. Also, get an ergobaby carrier that is comfortable and fits you. You can have the baby in the carrier and walk around the living room gently bouncing up and down. Babies really like that, and you'll still have your hands free to play games with your wireless controller.


Any good games out there that are like GTA or Watch Dogs 2 in the sense that they’re modern open world games? Doesn’t even necessarily have to be open world. It’s just kinda fun to mess around in a modern setting in a videogame once in awhile


Sleeping Dogs for $3


Really cheap but great game! You must buy it.


What about Farcry 5?


Just Cause is your best bet :) I really enjoyed the second installment, havent played the more recent ones but they look very promising.


I can't believe it took me this long to play Sekiro. I've just beaten the Blazing Bull and every minute has been soaked with adrenaline and dopamine in equal parts.


Where have you been, under rock? :D It is fantastic game really. Later on, as difficulty increase you feel, you can't beat game. In that case watch some youtube, learn use your tools. Every your tools have usage against certain situations, enemies. Spend skill point to your best skills. Learn parries (especially Mikiri Counter), single best skill in the game. For example, I don't know how much time you spent against Blazing Bull, but if you was aware of that gouge against fire, sells in Hirata Estate's vendor, your fight could be lot easier. Also right before Bull fight, there are 3 midget with hats (called rats), If you earn axe tool before that (also from Hirata Estate, they are easy target for XP farm etc. Also even after learn everything, if still can't beat game, and deciding give up, remember there are tons of mods. Most of them changes your model (2B from Nier Automota, Ichigo from Bleach, Scorpion from MK etc, lots of), and one of them lowers difficulty. I used that and I don't feel shame. After all its just single player game, I didnt cheat anyone. Almost all games offer difficulty option anyway. Enjoying whole story is better than leave game early.


How's Ready or Not?


Extremely good, if you were a fan of the SWAT series you will like it. One of my favorite games since I've been playing it. Been Following the development for awhile now so if swat is your thing you can not go wrong with RoN


As old Swat days lover, I was looking for some tactical shooter. Then I found Ready of Not and Ground Breach. Couldnt decide which one to buy and asked from some places. Everyone praising Ready or Not over Ground Breach. So I bought Ready or Not. But when I start game, frame rate was quite low. Using i7 8th gen, GTX 1080, and 16GB ram, not too poor PC. So I woudn't say its optimized well. I could lower quality (because I maxed everything), but left game there. I just bought too many games, playing others now. At least I decided won't refund this game.


Looking to pick up Saints Row the third, but can’t decide between the original and the remaster. Looked at lots of Reddit threads and steam reviews and it seems quite split(?). Can someone who played the remaster recently give me some insight please?


I haven't played the original in a while, but I played through most of the remaster recently, and I feel like the differences are pretty minimal. The major change is graphics, and while I don't think SR3 NEEDED a remaster, I also don't think it's bad. I prefer the original, but I don't dislike the remaster. Honestly [This is a really good comparison](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kap2YmmWRxo), so I'd say just pick the one that you like the looks of more.


I picked up Gloomhaven and Pop Up Dungeon this time around. Should this scratch our DnD itch, or is there a better title somewhere?


Haven't tried it myself but yesterday ppl were saying "for the king" is similar to dnd so maybe u could look into that


Thanks! I did play Demeo recently and that was good, but there wasn't as much content as I'd hoped


Maybe [Wildermyth?](https://store.steampowered.com/app/763890/Wildermyth/?l=swedish)


Gave it a try but it's very dialogue heavy Good recc otherwise though!


You could have a look into Solasta, and divinity original sin 2.


Gloomhaven is freakin' awesome. Probably the best board game to PC conversion I've ever seen. And the Jaws of the Lion expansion is out now too (though not on sale yet, too new)


It's on sale? 15% off I think? Edit: it is, but not on Steam. Isthereanydeal.com


I looked there, that 15% was just showing the historical low. Probably was the pre-order discount.


Ah yep, you're right. Do you happen to know a similar game that's more outer space themed? Like DnD gameplay with Star Wars theme?


I don't know of any Star Wars themed ones but the Shadowrun series is kind of cyberpunk-future, and Wasteland 2 & 3 are post-apocalyptic. about the closest I know of.


Trying to figure out why DayZ is still so expensive. Game is pretty old now. Does it still have a big player base and updates? Its been years since I played.


DayZ ? It gets frequently updated and has just broken it’s all time player count a month or so ago


That's interesting. Never would have figured.


I remember buying Arma 2 back in like 2011 during a summer sale when the original DayZ mod was popping off. Ended up getting it on a flash deal(a distant memory now) that was pretty weak discount because of the sudden high demand for the game. I think DayZ recently has had a resurgence on Twitch. I recall seeing some streamers playing it. I agree though that I would have thought they would have had bigger discounts on it by now.


Dayz Mod really was such a unique concept. I bought arma 2 specifically for it and never before in my life had I felt my heart beat so much in a game.


Can anyone try and explain what playing Danganronpa is like, spoiler-free?


Visual Novel about kids being held in a place and being forced to play a "killing game", every death a meeting is held and you have to find out who's the killer through interrogation, somewhat like Ace Attorney. That's the best I can do without spoiling anything major.


It's basically a detective visual novel, so for the most part it's a lot of walking around talking to people, with a bunch of minigames during the highlight of each chapter. It's a linear game so you probably won't get lost and need a walkthrough. Other than that goes into spoiler territory lol. Do not look up anything else about the game and go in as blind as you can! ;)


It's not *strictly* a visual novel contrary to what others have said. It leans closer to Ace Attorney with a splash of minigames during the trials. The game formula can be summed up like this: * Free time, during which you run around talking to the other characters, collecting items, building relationships. * Murder happens. * Spend time collecting clues, talking to witnesses, trying to determine what happened. * Trial, you try to figure out the who/what/when/where/why/how through the use of questioning, deduction, and minigames. * Rinse, repeat. The odd duck in the series is Ultra Despair Girls which is an arcadey third person shooter. It may look like a random spin-off but don't neglect it as it has a good bit of story relevance (it's set after 2, before 3).


Is Cyberpunk 2077 good now?


I'd say so. I'm hooked. I bought it the first or second day of the sale and now have nearly 20 hours played. I'm playing on Steam Deck and haven't had any glitches or bugs yet. I have minor issues with it like: Unrealistic traffic. Night City is supposed to be a metropolis with millions of residents but the streets are pretty bare. Police presence can feel nearly nonexistent. They're usually stationary at crime scenes. Inability to transmog clothes. It scratches that Animal Crossing or Dark Souls fashion bug itch, I love dressing characters and making them look good but I'd also like a high armor stat. Your character isn't visible when you're buying clothes so you can't see what it looks like on them. You can't drive vehicles down alleyways or through open buildings, your vehicle will just stop even if you're pressing the gas. Sometimes you have a 3 minute conversation just to get into a cars passenger seat where you have a 2 minute conversion to finally have a 5 minute conversation at a different location. I hate brain dancing. You can't jump and roll out of moving vehicles. [Video](https://youtu.be/2UQ7aEvg3Gg) When you crash into other cars they don't react and visible damage to vehicles is minimal. I don't expect npcs to get out and ask for insurance but you'd think they'd at least scream at you or something. After rereading all this it looks like I have a lot of issues with the game but I do genuinely enjoy it. The gunplay is very satisfying, shooting enemies point blank with a double barreled shot gun feels absolutely devastating. I just got my mantis arms and tearing apart a group of thugs in quick succession is fun. Driving in itself feels good and sometimes I'll avoid fast traveling just so I can try new cars out. The story is intriguing and the world and its version of society is equally enthralling. The fine details and little touches here and there are appreciated like when you visit this sex shop for a mission and across the way there's a store named PeePee. I know it's juvenile but I laughed. To finish this off, I don't feel like I wasted my money. So far with nearly 20 hours logged I've paid roughly $1.50 per hour of entertainment and I'm still excited to play it whenever I get a chance. I do think you'll find a lot here that you will enjoy.


The story is great, truly. For that alone it's worth it. The gameplay has improved, but is nothing exceptional.


Game had rough start, but I heard after patch 1.5, it become great. I didn't try after patch anyway.


Recommend some games for someone who is working the graveyard shift. Ideally be able to pause at any moment to attend to work-related calls or e-mails. Having a windowed mode is also a plus.


Slay the spire. Addicting, you can leave it any time (nothing happens in it when you afk), windowed mode. Plus time flies so fast with it.


Vampire Survivors


I have binding of Isaac (base game). Never beat it but I enjoyed my time with it. Wondering if it’s worth picking up rebirth before the sale ends. Anyone vouch for it?


Absolutely. Rebirth and all the DLC’s are amazing. I’m considering replaying it myself actually.


I think it's fantastic. I didn't actually enjoy the original Flash game that much but have put hundreds of hours into Rebirth and the various DLC packs. There are so many fun interactions between items that runs always feel different and there's just so much content even in the base game, loads of items, bosses, characters, plus there's mod support for even more.


I'd say get all the dlc if you think you'll get into it. The experience as a whole is amazing, I clocked up more than 1000hrs before Repentance came out, will probably go for a thousand more lol




You mean low specs? Fallout New Vegas was about the peak of what I could run on my old potato non-gaming laptop, so I might have some suggestions. The classics are your best friend. You may need a mouse and keyboard for them but throwing suggestions in regardless and you can decide. [Deus Ex](https://store.steampowered.com/app/6910/Deus_Ex_Game_of_the_Year_Edition/) [Blood: Fresh Supply](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1010750/Blood_Fresh_Supply/) [Doom](https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/Ultimate_Doom/) (Use GZDoom to run it, it has controller support) [Doom 64](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1148590/DOOM_64/) [Strife](https://store.steampowered.com/app/317040/Strife_Veteran_Edition/) [Hitman: Blood Money](https://store.steampowered.com/app/6860/Hitman_Blood_Money/) [Beyond Good and Evil](https://store.steampowered.com/app/15130/Beyond_Good_and_Evil/) [Thief](https://store.steampowered.com/app/211600/Thief_Gold/) [Thief 2](https://store.steampowered.com/app/211740/Thief_II_The_Metal_Age/) [System Shock 2](https://store.steampowered.com/app/238210/System_Shock_2/) [Rollercoaster Tycoon](https://store.steampowered.com/app/285310/RollerCoaster_Tycoon_Deluxe/) [Return to Castle Wolfenstein](https://store.steampowered.com/app/9010/Return_to_Castle_Wolfenstein/) [Max Payne](https://store.steampowered.com/app/12140/Max_Payne/) [Sid Meier's Pirates](https://store.steampowered.com/app/3920/Sid_Meiers_Pirates/) [Psychonauts](https://store.steampowered.com/app/3830/Psychonauts/) [Half-Life](https://store.steampowered.com/app/70/HalfLife/) [The Curse of Monkey Island](https://store.steampowered.com/app/730820/The_Curse_of_Monkey_Island/) [Star Wars KOTOR](https://store.steampowered.com/app/32370/STAR_WARS__Knights_of_the_Old_Republic/) (also see 2) Modern Indies that will (probably) run on a potato: [Enter the Gungeon](https://store.steampowered.com/app/311690/Enter_the_Gungeon/) [Sonic Mania](https://store.steampowered.com/app/584400/Sonic_Mania/) [Vampire Survivors](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1794680/Vampire_Survivors/) [Slay the Spire](https://store.steampowered.com/app/646570/Slay_the_Spire/) [FTL](https://store.steampowered.com/app/212680/FTL_Faster_Than_Light/) [Everhood](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1229380/Everhood/) [Brigador](https://store.steampowered.com/app/274500/Brigador_UpArmored_Edition/) [Shovel Knight](https://store.steampowered.com/app/250760/Shovel_Knight_Treasure_Trove/) [Dead Cells](https://store.steampowered.com/app/588650/Dead_Cells/) [To The Moon](https://store.steampowered.com/app/206440/To_the_Moon/) [Stardew Valley](https://store.steampowered.com/app/413150/Stardew_Valley/) [Celeste](https://store.steampowered.com/app/504230/Celeste/)


>Deus Ex > >Blood: Fresh Supply > >Doom > >Doom 64 > >Strife > >Hitman: Blood Money > >Beyond Good and Evil > >Thief > >Thief 2 > >System Shock 2 > >Return to Castle Wolfenstein > >Max Payne > >Sid Meier's Pirates > >Psychonauts > >Half-Life > >Star Wars KOTOR (also see 2) Man, what a great list there!


Low end in price, quality, graphics?


There's older JRPG games that should run well on most anything like Trails in the Sky, Persona 4 or Grandia 1/2




You can play a surprising number of recent AAA games on low-end hardware. I have a Surface Pro 8 that only has an Intel integrated GPU, and I have played Elden Ring, Death Stranding, Borderlands 3, Warhammer: Total War 2. You'll have to turn down settings and resolution obviously, but like I said, in my experience most games work.


Looking for some co-op, mainly horror, adventure or action type. Some games me and my friends enjoyed were valhiem, terraria, we were here series, devour and phasmophobia. We've tried basically everything that's ''popular'' so looking for some off meta/new releases. Thanks


With the Humble Choice finally out I'm grabbing a few things. Yakuza Like a Dragon Robotics;Notes (Elite and Dash) Bloons TD 6 Bit stumped whether I go for more. Between the weak discounts, backlog, and also getting Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak it's not like I'm lacking for games.


Any good cheap musou games to get in to?


I’m stuck between Borderlands 3 Ultimate, Tiny Tina, and Dying Light 2… Big fan of Dying Light 1, haven’t played Borderlands since the first one, what do you all recommend?


How much do you care about the BL story? How much do you like D&D? Tiny Tina is the best imo if you are into the nerd jokes and using magic to replace the sci fi elements.


borderlands 2 is a amazing game. Best in the entire franchise if you ask me. Just get it with all the dlc, cause its well worth it.


You mean borderlands 3?


I am guessing they were suggesting borderlands 2 over borderlands 3. Borderlands 2 is usually considered to be better than borderlands 3 and borderlands 2 is $8 for the game and all DLC, so much cheaper. If you have only played borderlands 1, borderlands 2 improves in every way.


Is Cyberpunk good yet?




For me it's "50% price cut good" but still not "$30 good". Haven't finished the game yet but patch 1.5 has fixed a lot of issues and added new features. The eye candy visuals is exceptional for me since I'm a sucker for cpunk aesthetics.


Any local co-op games recommendations? Something to be played on 1 computer.


Here are some that I have played.. =] * [Human Fall Flat](https://store.steampowered.com/app/477160/) * [Castle Crashers](https://store.steampowered.com/app/204360/ ) * [BattleBlock Theater](https://store.steampowered.com/app/238460/) * [Stick Fight The Game](https://store.steampowered.com/app/674940/) * [Trine 4: The Nightmare Prince](https://store.steampowered.com/app/690640/) - (Also Trine 1 & 2) * [Sacred Citadel](https://store.steampowered.com/app/207930/) * [Broforce](https://store.steampowered.com/app/274190/) * [The Expendabros](https://store.steampowered.com/app/312990/) - (free demo of Broforce based on Expendables movie) * [A Way Out](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1222700/) * [Unravel Two](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1225570/) * [Guns, Gore and Cannoli 2](https://store.steampowered.com/app/525510/) * [EARTH DEFENSE FORCE 5](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1007040/) * [EARTH DEFENSE FORCE 4.1 The Shadow of New Despair](https://store.steampowered.com/app/410320/) * [Degrees of Separation](https://store.steampowered.com/app/809880/ ) * [Darksiders Genesis](https://store.steampowered.com/app/710920/) * [Warhammer Chaosbane](https://store.steampowered.com/app/774241/) * [Gauntlet Slayer Edition](https://store.steampowered.com/app/258970/) * [Shift Happens](https://store.steampowered.com/app/359840/) * [ibb & obb](https://store.steampowered.com/app/95400/) * [Any LEGO games](https://store.steampowered.com/sale/lego)


Any opinions on gears tactics? I don't like XCOM, specifically 2 is just bad imho. I love battlemech though and gears tactics looks interesting. Or maybe another turn based game like battlemech, especially the open campaign of battlemech I like.


I guess it depends a lot on what you didn't like about XCOM. Gears Tactics focuses entirely on the tactics part without the strategic layer, so if you found the combat good, but the strategy boring, it might fit. GT leans heavily into using overwatch and setting up ambushes for hordes of enemies to charge into.


I disliked the part where you had to finish a mission in a certain amount of moves or get overwhelmed. and the setting is just not my thing.


If you re talking about xcom 2, there are mods to disable timers etc. Xcom 2 has Steam Workshop enabled, meaning the mods can be installed directly from steam.


Well, XCOM2 is the benchmark for turn based games. I mean if you don't like it, thats fine but did you give it a chance? And did you play with or without the "War of the Chosen"? * [40k: Mechanicus](https://store.steampowered.com/app/673880/Warhammer_40000_Mechanicus/) * [40k: Chaosgate - Daemonhunters](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1611910/Warhammer_40000_Chaos_Gate__Daemonhunters/) but I have not played those two yet, so can't say how similar they might go with Battletech. The Battletech sandbox with the mercenary universe is probably one of a kind anyway.


I have not played with any mods or dlc. Mechanicus was very enjoyable wit a very interesting soundtrack.


>Any opinions on gears tactics? I don't like XCOM Probably want to give Gears a pass then. It simplifies a lot of the XCOM formula but it still has timers very frequently which you pointed out as a problem. I also don't like them much and Gears ended up not clicking for me. Battletech might be more to your taste perhaps?


I played both. If you hated XCOM 2 then I don't think you'd like Gears Tactics. Gears is just a simpler version of XCOM 2 with more repetitive missions.


Am I crazy or is this the same deals from yesterday?


Looks like it. I'm not sure if the OP text is supposed to have new deals or what.


the OP table has different deals everyday to bring attention to all the games (10 games a day for 2 weeks vs 140 games on one day) as for the steam sale itself, the deals will be the same for the entire 2 weeks


Same. Steam sales kinda suck this year. It's hard to tell what's been added to the sales.


Steam sales are like this for a quite a few years now. There's nothing new added to the sales every day, only some different deals highlighted for the day. But if you mean as "what's been added since previous sales" then you're right, you can probably only see the individual games' price history on sites like "isthereanydeal".


Im pretty sure they changed their policy a few years ago such that every game that is going to be on sale will be on sale from day 1 (and no surprise drops in price). It created a fear of a better deal coming after you bought it so people waited to the final day to buy anything, thus delay of purchase, thus potentially missing the purchase altogether.